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November 12, 2007 2:30pm by David Farrar

Hooton on EFB

If you have 20 minutes spare, have a listen to Matthew Hooton and Laile Harre talking politics today, and especially the Electoral Finance Bill.

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sonic

Would it be ok if I used my spare 20 minutes to do something more rewarding than listen to Mathew Hooton?

I’m sure we can all think of something better than that to do, eh readers?
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November 12, 2007 2:33pm
Kevin

Yep, march on Saturday Aucklanders, Aotea Square, 10 am, its on! Spread the word.
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November 12, 2007 2:39pm
Zutroy Abadolov

Yeah Sonic, there are off topic flame wars to be had here on Kiwiblog.
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November 12, 2007 2:39pm
Monty

It is excellent – I listened this moring – and have emailed the link to a few friends – recommending that they listen to this independant commentator.

As I said earlier – Clark’s worst nightmare is happening – the EFB is becoming a mainstream issue.
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November 12, 2007 2:46pm
Buggerlugs

It appears thestandard has gone down…surely the poor pinkos haven’t forgotten to pay their wordpress bill? go and shake the tin for them sonic, would you? or steal some money out of the Socialist Worker poor box, whatever you normally do…
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November 12, 2007 2:48pm
Lindsay Addie

More comment from Michael Bott:
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/audio/12072622.mp3

Couldn’t help but notice Hosking defending this piece of shit legislation.

and Barry Soper here:
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/podcasts/audio/12073207.mp3
Who seems to think there will be a voter backlash.
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November 12, 2007 2:55pm
Inventory2

Sonic! Where’ve you been boy? I see the last of the Tuhoe 17 got bailed today, or is that just a coincidence in my warped mind?
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November 12, 2007 2:55pm
Tane

Never fear, Buggerlugs – we’re back up! Not sure what went wrong there…
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November 12, 2007 3:00pm
Bevan

It appears thestandard has gone down…

Maybe someone finally uploaded the About page and it crashed the server…..
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November 12, 2007 3:07pm
gd

Just in 81% of the first 1700 who responded to the Herald poll said NZ is less free than it was. Methinks the Socialists are all over Rover and looking at a very long time in the wilderness.

The citizens have awoke from their slumber and like the cats of the jungle when angered are but a fearsome sight.

Little Helen and Mikey should be very afraid
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November 12, 2007 3:16pm
TBR1

Yes heard them on ‘from the left and the rabid left’ on RLW this AM. Dear old Mathew managed to get the odd word to bubble up above the unrelenting verbal torrent delivered by Harre. The hopeless bint that presented the program of course did her bit to keep Harre’s rantings rolling out. Mat did manage to get the odd point made but as per usual his points were generally lost in the verbal avalaunche delivered by the mad eyed marxist. Mat must grow some balls and take some control – tell the clutz to take a breath ocassionally – he would have been lucky to have achieved 20% of the slot time. Better yet he should relegate the job to someone genuinely from the other end of the spectrum who won’t spend their time greasing the gastly greens, etc.
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November 12, 2007 3:19pm
hinamanu

🙂 Little Helen and Mikey should be very afraid 🙂
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November 12, 2007 3:20pm
Kevin

Why do the tiny minority of people like Tane, sonic and their ilk hate us wanting to see our kids and grandkids grow up in a real country?

Protest march Saturday 17th starting at 10am from Auckland Town Hall down Queen St to Britomart.
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November 12, 2007 3:23pm
Linda Reid

See you on Saturday Kevin.
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November 12, 2007 3:25pm
sonic

Good luck with the march comrades!

Always nice to see the Tories copying our tactics.

Look foward to seeing you all there.

😉

S
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November 12, 2007 3:28pm
Brownie

Geez, you reds are on a hiding to nothing when even Laila Harre is criticising the EFB and Approp. Bill
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November 12, 2007 3:38pm
gd

Sonic old bean The difference between we Tories and you Socialists is that our protest march will be done with style Dignified and with decorum. Not like the rentamob that we have seen so often from you Socialists.

Hope you come and see how a protest march should be conducted
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November 12, 2007 3:40pm
AGJ

Did you get finally get bail Sonic?
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November 12, 2007 3:43pm
cubit9f

gd,

I bet Rentamob will turn up anyway. Any protest is good for a day out. They will be noisy and full of envy that they couldn’t organise something as well.

Sonic,

Where have you been? There are a lot of people worried about you. I hope it wasn’t you who got swiped by the megaphone at the Labour conference. If it was I am very sorry that you had to become a target from a staunch party supporter.
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November 12, 2007 3:44pm
AGJ

damn no edit button
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November 12, 2007 3:47pm
Inventory2

gd said “Just in 81% of the first 1700 who responded to the Herald poll said NZ is less free than it was. Methinks the Socialists are all over Rover and looking at a very long time in the wilderness.”

The left are up to their poll-rigging tricks again gd – it’s now 64% “No” responses – that means that since you commented on it, pretty much the only votes that have been cast are ones against the Herald’s proposition! The left has been caught out so oftern riggin polls, you’d wonder why they’d bother anymore! The actual figures at the moment are 1773 (36%) Yes (The question is “Is New Zealand becoming a less free and democratic country?”) and 3088 (64%) No.
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November 12, 2007 3:55pm
gd

cubit9f Yes In fact my better half is worried about me attending She says that given I cant help myself I will be on the end of a swinging megaphone from one of the Socialist supporters .

I have a cunning plan Motorbike helmet just like the good old Springbok tour days. Only its not the Police I have to protect myself from.

I2 not surprised Bet H2 was on to the troops first thing to get then pumping the poll. Typical Socialists Cant shit without instructions from on high
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November 12, 2007 4:01pm
Inventory2

gd – contrasts strongly with this story on the Herald’s website:

“Public back call to scrap election law
2:25PM Monday November 12, 2007

Public opinion has swung behind the Herald’s call for the Electoral Finance Bill to be scrapped.

Hundreds of people have joined the debate on nzherald.co.nz’s Your Views forum, with the vast majority agreeing the legislation is an attack on democracy.

Readers contacting the Herald newsdesk have also been almost unanimously in support of a front page editorial today which said: “democracy is not a device to keep the Labour Party in power”.

The campaign has also won the support today of National leader John Key, who reiterated a pledge to scrap the law if his party leads the next Government, and New Zealand Broadcasting School lecturer Paul Norris.

Mr Norris said it was common for overseas newspapers to run editorials on their front page and he believed the Herald was seeking to awaken the public on what it considers to be a very important issue.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10475515
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November 12, 2007 4:05pm
PaulL

Inventory2, the real question is why anybody would bother running a poll that can be so easily rigged. Maybe the Herald will this time be keen to publicise where all those votes came from, and who scammed it?
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November 12, 2007 4:05pm
Inventory2

gd said “I have a cunning plan Motorbike helmet just like the good old Springbok tour days. Only its not the Police I have to protect myself from.”

Yep mate – watch out for Unionists brandishing megaphones!
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November 12, 2007 4:06pm
hinamanu

“Methinks the Socialists are all over Rover and looking at a very long time in the wilderness.”

This is probably the case.

But John Key is bit of a fox. He shook hands with Helen over repealing section 59 without his party’s input saying later he will repeal it if it doesn’t work out.

Time will tell, but in all honesty, this country has no alternative what so ever if it wishes to retain a free state then to vote National.

For the first time in its history NZ has no choice but to have a National govt in 2009.
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November 12, 2007 4:12pm
sonic

Guys, been busy with family issues, and will be again soon.

Ok If I leave it there?

Thanx
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November 12, 2007 4:20pm
Inventory2

Cheers Sonic – you picked a good day to make your return lol
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November 12, 2007 4:28pm
Lee C

Good old sonic can always rely on him to step up and take the bullet in Tane, gnome and Dixon’s place.

Good to see you back sonic – the dark side beckons. :0(
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November 12, 2007 4:56pm
sonic

Nice to see you as well Lee!
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November 12, 2007 4:59pm
PhilBest

I agree with Hooton. You ain’t seen nothing yet when it comes to Our Dear Leader trying to keep the reins of power. Hooton’s comments should go in every letterbox in the country. Kiwis should take to the streets. Is there a protest planned for Wellington as well as Auckland?
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November 12, 2007 5:43pm
Right of way is Way of Right

WB Sonic, always nice to lock horns and all that! That’s one of the democratic freedoms we all enjoy, at the moment.

Hope the family issues are not too serious, and all sorts itself out, whatever it is!
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November 12, 2007 5:45pm
PhilBest

Still listening to this. Harre might as well be a spokesman for Putin or Chavez. Barf.
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November 12, 2007 5:48pm
Buggerlugs

Harre IS a spokesman (read apologist) for Putin and Chavez.
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November 12, 2007 6:05pm
Inventory2

And not a very convincing spokesPERSON either!
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November 12, 2007 7:13pm
Inventory2

Interesting – the Herald has pulled its poll “Is New Zealand becoming a less free and democratic country?” – the one that went from 80/20 to 30/70 in the space of an hour so. Have the vote-riggers been caught out again? Will the trail lead back to the 9th Floor?
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November 12, 2007 7:25pm
slightlyrighty

When Labour won the 05 election, with the assistance of the theft of $800k, I did wonder aloud how far would labour go to remain in power.

Sadly, I have an answer.
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November 12, 2007 7:57pm
Buggerlugs

At one time, though, there was a straw poll in the office as to which MP you’d shag. Harre came top, followed by Deborah Coddington. Guess there’s no accounting for taste.
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November 12, 2007 8:44pm
Inventory2

Could have been worse Buggerlugs – the highest polling might have been Marion Hobbs, Jill Pettis or even Dear Leader herself – quick, pass my a bucket – bleeeeeeeeeeeeech!!!!!!
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November 12, 2007 9:11pm
PaulL

I always thought Harre was shaggable. If you didn’t talk to her.
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November 12, 2007 9:19pm
Tauhei Notts

And the way she spoke out of the corner of her mouth gave me lurid thoughts about what she could do with that mouth.
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November 12, 2007 9:52pm
vto

hey mr tauhei notts, remember that post last week where i described our local coast pub and the nasty lampooning of clark etc on the notice board? Well, it’s still there in all its glory. The clippings are getting a bit tattered but they all laughed like the devil when I quizzed them about it.

and d4j, if you’re out there, the last ‘bait haul was …. (shhhhh! always a secret). But it was crappy really. just a few for the odd feed. ha ha.

apologies for the off topic binge.
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November 12, 2007 10:03pm
Lindsay Addie

Re polls http://nz.yahoo.com/ has a poll on this too, a moment ago the results were 4617 (74%) agreed the NZ democracy is under threat, 1653 (26%) disagreed.
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November 12, 2007 10:16pm
Kevin

If we copied your side sonic we’d ban protests. Oh and fireworks and smacking and free speech…

gd, in style, I think champaign would be good but is banned in britomart because the nambys would rather ban it than deal with the problem drinking of youth…sound familiar? Still, I’ll take a bottle and see how we go eh?
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