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October 20, 2007 3:07pm by David Farrar

Kiwitube

People may want to check out Kiwitube – a Kiwi match between You Tube and Trade Me.

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Nick Archer

I checked it out, a few weeks back. Nothing much has changed on the home page. Like most things in new media it will take a while to get traction, it is about people using it. To make it worth it would have to take people ripping (using flash capture software etc) stuff from TV One’s On Demand service for it to become a kiwi version of YouTube. But like YouTube is doing from this week, a copyright filter will end up being established (if TVNZ, TV3 complain), thus making it a waste of time…
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October 20, 2007 3:39pm
Whaleoil

These boys seriously need some bandwidth. As it is it chokes.
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October 22, 2007 7:32pm
Shannon kiwi

From Shannon
(Director/founder of kiwitube.co.nz)

Hi Nick and DPF and others,

Yes, kiwitube allows user-generated video (like youtube) and people can advertise houses for sale (for free) and other items using video to a NZ audience.

Thanks Nick for creating some debate. Yes, as you say, kiwitube will take time to get traction, and it’s about people using it and of course contributing to it. (Please contribute!) But if one looks closely kiwitube like the youtube model, it is not just about people ripping stuff from the NZ mainstream media.

Kiwitube’s video sharing format is much broader than that, and it is particularly focused on:

1) NZ user-generated content and also on

2) video content that promotes NZ music, community groups, NZ business and tourism to a NZ and also an international audience. Having channels focused on all the tourist attractions in each of the major tourist areas is an invaluable resource for local and international visitors to find out what’s happening in NZ.

kiwitube can be successful because it takes a much broader view of what a video sharing site is. (i.e. not just copying content from NZ TV.) But please disagree below if you have another view!

One of the objectives is to provide for original content at whatever level produced by New Zealanders. (And of course overseas original content as well is welcome as well.)

kiwitube video sharing service will mean that for example during next years election, NZ’ers will have a focused video forum for commenting on the political issues that arise. Just as kiwiblog allows for, but in the video format.

It will also be a focused venue for political parties to make some of their key statements and replies to the issues discussed. They won’t need to go to a big overseas company to carry out and fulfill this video sharing need.

This can be especially useful for smaller parties and interest groups who want their message to be seen by a NZ audience. kiwitube will focus such video all in one place.

Bandwidth: Thanks for your comment Whaleoil about bandwidth. Not sure where you are, but some places experience slower downloads but not to do with our bandwidth. My own experience at many Internet café’s in Auckland and other reports from users in Auckland all report excellent download speeds. But for some users youtube could be faster than us I know. (We have a big server and huge bandwidth available. Not that it couldn’t be bigger!) But other parts of NZ and even Auckland still have problems. The pipes and peak user times are far more of an issue than anything to do with bandwidth

Any reports on download speeds? Any believers or skeptics on the kiwitube NZ user-generated video model promoting all things NZ? Thanks for the space to discuss. I look forward to your critical comment and support for this NZ venture.

Cheers
Shannon B
kiwitube director/founder.
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October 22, 2007 9:45pm
MRBIG1

Hi Shannon B \ Kiwi tube, You have been off line for a while now.Whats the story ?
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December 4, 2007 5:30pm
Shannon kiwi

Hi MRBIG1 and readers,
Very sorry, but kiwitube is no more. The youtube nz site although nothing very special took the support I was getting right out from under us.

Should really have hung in there for six months more, but running out of cash. Traffic was increasing well, but not nearly as much as expected.

Plus, I hadn’t realised how much TVNZ was involved with youtube and of course the way to get on TV is sadly to have a fight uploaded or some other inappropriate material. Not the best way to be famous, but probably one of the only to make real media headlines.

Won’t go into a full post mortem (ie should’ve had a custom builit site/more $ etc) but a special thanks for all the e-mails, and to all those who uploaded videos and for the support and ideas I received.

I still love making video.

Cheers

Shannon
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