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May 7, 2006 3:31pm by David Farrar

Diet Coke vs Coke Zero

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andrei

Both are disgusting, give me the real stuff any day.

The food nazi’s philosophy, if it tastes good its got to be bad for you.
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May 7, 2006 3:39pm
andrei

Both are disgusting, give me the real stuff any day.

The food nazi’s philosophy, if it tastes good its got to be bad for you.

The funny thing is that the rise in the consumption of “junk” food has seen a corresponding rise in life expectancy
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May 7, 2006 3:41pm
Ed

Diet Coke is usually more refreshing although it’s difficult to drink it over an extended period of time, tastes awful when warm. Coke Zero is bland, less refreshing and more addictive, tastes better luke warm than cold.
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May 7, 2006 3:42pm
Spam

They’re both exactly the same formula – and its just about marketting. Males (in particular) don’t like to buy ‘diet’ drinks, however they are quite happy to buy something called ‘zero’. Its just like diet pepsi vs pepsi max.
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May 7, 2006 4:00pm
Dave

Heard an interesting tidbit from a guy who works for Coca-Cola Amatil while on a training course. They are constantly tweaking the flavour of Coke Zero, and once they’ve got it right, there will be two primary options

Diet Coke and Coke Zero.

That’s right. They’re looking to drop Coca-Cola (generic) because of the cost of sugar. The artificial sweetener is considerable cheaper.

Mind you. It’ll probably be like the US, and when everybody complains, they’ll bring back Coke-Classic and everybody will rejoice and purchase more than they used to just because they can.

Personally, I wish they’d kept Vanilla Coke as an option instead of the Citra, which I now see they have stopped producing. Raspberry Coke seems to have disappeared as well.
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May 7, 2006 4:00pm
Lucyna

I have to agree with Andrei; I can’t stand either. If I’m going to drink coke, I drink the real thing – sugar and all. The sugar content is a good reminder that fizzy is really bad for us.
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May 7, 2006 4:16pm
Murray

Zero better than diet in terms of having a bit more of a kick.

Prefer milk but can’t afford it.
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May 7, 2006 4:26pm
Alan

Had to switch to Diet due to being on a diet. compared to real coke (fat coke), it was awful, but anything is better than nothing. but after a while i got used to it, and its ok when you have very little other sugar.

once zero came out, i tried it, its 100 times better than diet, not quite the same but close enough to fat coke.

zero is awful like diet if you;ve just had other sugar. but if you are on a sugar restricted diet, its very good, and zero kicks diets ass.
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May 7, 2006 4:48pm
red

I perfer the coke zero myself id like to think its because of the taste but i might be a victim of marketing.

For years diet coke zero has been aimed at woman, we all remember the window cleaner, the courier the pool boy adverts.

Coke Zero is aimed at the health conscience male audiance.
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May 7, 2006 5:09pm
MarkJ

Ummm. Is it OK to say I prefer Pepsi Max when it comes to “thin” Cola?

Coke Zero and Diet taste very similar to me.

What amazes me is how different fat Coke can taste – It seems to change all the time – every now and again you get a really good mix that you loathe to share with others.

I was also wondering if NZ Coke uses Cane Sugar or Corn Syrup? Anyone know?
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May 7, 2006 5:17pm
Whig

Dave, no way in hell they will get rid of Classic Coke again. The last time they tried it there was a huge outcry.

I want them to bring back caffeine free Coke so I can start drinking it in decent quantities again.
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May 7, 2006 5:39pm
Sarah

As a non-coffee drinking caffiene addict, Diet Coke is my drug of choice. I hate the taste of “real” Coke, and so buying Coke Zero to get the taste I dislike sans sugar has as much appeal to me as buying Vegemite instead of Marmite.
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May 7, 2006 5:46pm
Jillypig

Enjoyed Zero coke when it first came out but have gone back to Diet.

The coke “cocktails” served in theatres are a worry. They appear to come in a mixture of diet coke, pepsi and water.
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May 7, 2006 5:53pm
Ed

Whig, you can get caffeine coke from the Supermarkets now.
http://www.foodtown.co.nz/HomeShopping/product.asp?pageType=shelf&dept%5Fid=17&page%5Fnum=1&dateVar=5%2F7%2F2006+6%3A29%3A20+PM&fromShoppingList=%2D1&z%5Fs=1u1&fromRecipe=%2D1&z%5Fu=38845r312536&aisle%5Fid=269&shelf%5Fid=610&shelf%5Fwidth=832&stockcode=16014&fromShelf=610&fromShelfItem=2
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May 7, 2006 5:56pm
Whaleoil

If you must drink 2-stroke then the answer is Coke Zero. Period.

Diet Coke is the most foul tasting substance on Earth except for perhaps anything made by Pepsi. Coke Zero is tolerable.

Prior to Zero the only “Diet” drinks i could stomach were Diet lemondaes (Schweppes is king) and Diet Ginger Ale (Schweppes, again.

So for me it is Zero.
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May 7, 2006 6:04pm
michael

i’ll just stick to my Steinlager. coke (any of it) makes ya fat and ya head go funny.
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May 7, 2006 6:06pm
David

A few years ago, i went to Bali for a holiday. While there i drunk real coke out of the old fashioned bottles. Tasted great. Better that the coke you buy in NZ. Must have been an old formula
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May 7, 2006 6:42pm
gozero

I can’t believe that some people think that zero and diet taste the same. I absolutely loathe the taste of any diet drinks but have switched from full coke to zero now. Was in the UK recently and was gutted that zero has not been released there yet.
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May 7, 2006 7:30pm
Oswald Bastable

I prefer Zero to diet. My choice would be Raspberry, Vanilla, Zero- but I can’t get the first two except in the overpriced small bottles.

I’m waiting for cherry coke to come back.
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May 7, 2006 7:57pm
side show bob

Don’t put any in your rum it will make you as sick as a dog-take my advise.
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May 7, 2006 9:10pm
David Farrar

Seems to be a clear majority for coke zero. Interesting.
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May 7, 2006 9:48pm
Graeme Edgeler

And a clear majority of males who’ve let their opinions be known.
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May 7, 2006 10:22pm
James

Diet coke was only really popular beacuase there was nothing else for the brand conscious to drink.

Coke Zero was pre-realeased at the vending machine at my work and *all* my friends, male and female were jealous when I got them to have a taste.

My vote – coke zero.

Prior to that it was diet pepsi – I always found the taste of pepsi max to vary bottle to bottle.
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May 7, 2006 10:33pm
James

Diet coke was only really popular beacuase there was nothing else for the brand conscious to drink.

Coke Zero was pre-realeased at the vending machine at my work and *all* my friends, male and female were jealous when I got them to have a taste.

My vote – coke zero.

Prior to that it was diet pepsi – I always found the taste of pepsi max to vary bottle to bottle.
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May 7, 2006 10:34pm
PaulL

I like Zero more. I used to drink a lot of fat coke, started getting fat to match, so switched to diet. Didn’t like it much, so ended up drinking not very much, and could switch back to fat.

Zero seems to be a bit thicker – maybe they add some vegetable gum or something? Diet always tastes thin to me. Anyway, is a closer mimic of the real thing, but given the choice still drink fat.

Annoying random trivia – the drink fridge at work (not free, but honesty box) had only three forms of cola for the last week: diet coke, pepsi max, coke zero. Aaarrrrggghhhh. No sugar. If you only get the caffeine you are only getting half your money’s worth.
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May 7, 2006 10:37pm
Sam

Contrary to the beliefs of some in this thread, Diet Coke and Coke Zero ARE different formulations.

Diet Coke is the low-calorie form of the (infamous) “new Coke” formula, while Coke Zero is a new low-calorie form of the Classic Coke formula. There are subtle flavour differences but a more noticable difference is the “mouthfeel”.

Regular Coke and Coke Zero are intended to taste very similar (ideally identical?) while Diet Coke has always been distinctively different.

Anyway if I had to buy any Coke product on the market today, I would probably go for Coke Zero.

But the best Coke of all is the old stuff with REAL CANE SUGAR, not the nasty HFCS they now use.
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May 7, 2006 11:39pm
Whig

Ed, I was aware of there being caffeine free diet, but I was wanting caffeine free with the sugar :oP Sadly they don’t seem to manufacture it in New Zealand, and in the States they use corn syrup instead of sugar, which makes it taste absolutely foul
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May 8, 2006 12:17am
what Willis was talking about

Depends. Are you gay or just metro?
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May 8, 2006 12:58am
James

Zero does taste better than Diet.There is a distinct difference.Last time I worked at Coke Oasis in Mt Wellington they used cane sugar but liquid may be used now.
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May 8, 2006 8:14am
drone

Coke Zero > Diet Coke.

I can’t stand Diet, it’s got some nasty aftertaste. Zero has the same thing, but it’s a fair bit muted.

Of course Real Actual Sugar Coke > All.
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May 8, 2006 8:37am
lyndon

I’m reminded of a comic strip I saw once with characters arguing about the merits of Coke and Pepsi. Eventually they came to…

“Of course, we’re ignore an even more important issue…”

“They both taste like malted battery acid?”

“Yeah.”
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May 8, 2006 8:52am
Camryn

NZ normal Coke tastes better than in the US. They definitely use corn syrup. The strange thing is that NZ Diet Coke seems to be unique to NZ… Diet Coke tastes a lot better in most other countries, whereas it’s foul p1ss water here.

Haven’t had a Coke Zero yet.

I find the Coke + flavour thing quite interesting. I remember Cherry Coke bombed, so they must’ve tried Rasberry as a special NZ thing (since lots of people mixed their own at BK). The Citra one tasted like Sunlight liquid.
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May 8, 2006 9:12am
brian_smaller

“Depends. Are you gay or just metro?”

Isn’t a metro just a gay who hasn’t come out yet?

I don’t really like coke anyway except poured over French Vanilla ice cream. But, when I tried Cole Zero I thought it has less of a chemically aftertaste compered to Diet Coke.
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May 8, 2006 9:33am
homer jay

coke is shit fullstop. id prefer a cold lager
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May 8, 2006 10:28am
Hiro Protagonist

I don’t normally drink Coke, but a friend got me to try Zero recently. Yeecchhh!

I can’t believe how overpoweringly sweet it was. How can people drink that stuff?
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May 8, 2006 12:23pm
iiq374

Caffeine free – heh, what about the new release:
http://iiq374.blogspot.com/2006/04/for-those-who-feel-like-they-need.html
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May 8, 2006 12:42pm
wayno

They are both poisonous crap – period.
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May 8, 2006 1:37pm
Nick Archer

I hate diet coke, it tastes of chemicals because it is chemicals! I’ve heard that some think that artificial sweetners are generally worse for you than sugar. Having lived off the Phenylalanine for a while I’ve switched back to sugar. I’ve noticed that diet drinks make you crave carbohydrates (why not have sugar which is 100% carbohydrates instead of wolfing down some rice or white bread?).

Despite the debate over artificial sweetners, regular coke tastes the best…
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May 8, 2006 2:59pm
NX

I don’t like the way diet coke was/is marketed i.e. a ladies drink. So when the dentist told me I was getting too many holes in my teeth I changed from fat coke to Pepsi Max.
Once I had got used to the phenylalanine artificial sweetener I changed to diet coke. I found the taste to be not as strong as Pepsi Max & Coke Zero. I actually can’t stand coke Zero!

So here’s my question. How many people who drank diet coke before have changed to coke Zero?

I haven’t experienced any problems with mixing diet coke with rum or cherry brandy. Also, in an experiment with my flatmates to see if we could taste the difference between the
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May 8, 2006 3:51pm
NX

I don’t like the way diet coke was/is marketed i.e. a ladies drink. So when the dentist told me I was getting too many holes in my teeth I changed from fat coke to Pepsi Max.
Once I had got used to the phenylalanine artificial sweetener I changed to diet coke. I found the taste to be not as strong as Pepsi Max & Coke Zero. I actually can’t stand coke Zero!

So here’s my question. How many people who drank diet coke before have changed to coke Zero?

I haven’t experienced any problems with mixing diet coke with rum or cherry brandy. Also, in an experiment with my flatmates to see if we could taste the difference between the
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May 8, 2006 3:58pm
NX

I don’t like the way diet coke was/is marketed i.e. a ladies drink. So when the dentist told me I was getting too many holes in my teeth I changed from fat coke to Pepsi Max.
Once I had got used to the phenylalanine artificial sweetener I changed to diet coke. I found the taste to be not as strong as Pepsi Max & Coke Zero. I actually can’t stand coke Zero!

So here’s my question. How many people who drank diet coke before have changed to coke Zero?

I haven’t experienced any problems with mixing diet coke with rum or cherry brandy. Also, in an experiment with my flatmates to see if we could taste the difference between the
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May 8, 2006 4:13pm
baxter

Diet coke is sweetened by a substance called aspartame regarded as a carcinogen of the highest order.(just google it) I understand that some States are trying to have it outlawed as a sweetener, and Coca cola is in a panic trying to find a substitute.
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May 8, 2006 4:18pm
Logix

The fact that entire an entire row in the average supermarket is usually devoted to crappy fizzwaters of varying degree’s of toxicity, is a testament to either the power of coporate marketing, human stupidity, or some frightening combination of both.
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May 8, 2006 5:54pm
NX

I rather like variety of choice! If you’re stupid enough to buy them when you don’t like them… then that’s your problem.
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May 8, 2006 6:24pm
Doug

Baxter,

Although the overall safety of aspartame is debatable, it is hardly “regarded as a carcinogen of the highest order”.

There is little scientific evidence that aspartame is unsafe and carciogenicity studies are, at best, highly equivocal.

In any case, it is unlikely that Coke are in a “panic trying to find a substitute”, as there are dozens of other artificial sweeteners and sugar substitutes already available.
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May 8, 2006 7:51pm
B.J. Melville

Oooh! Using a blog to host an online focus group! What a great idea! Don’t worry, the price of real sugar will go down again someday and you won’t have to poison yourselves with that petrochemical by-product they use as a substitute.
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May 8, 2006 8:15pm
SarahK

The jury is definately out on aspartame and it’s a real concern. However Zero uses it too so there’s no advantage there. Check some of the links in my sig!

Personally I like the Diet Coke taste and not the fat coke taste so have no interest in trying it.
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May 11, 2006 11:11am
j-me

i think youre all being over the top lol coke just realises that there is a lot of people who cant have sugar and theyre targeting that market its called making money people get with it lmao (dont hate)
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July 15, 2006 10:25pm
Reverend Flash

Information From the International Food Information Council Foundation:

It is physiologically impossible for aspartame to be a carcinogen. Aspartame is broken down in the gastrointestinal tract to small amounts of common dietary components including the amino acids, aspartic acid and phenylalanine. We consume these same components in much greater amounts in common foods, such as milk, meat, fruits and vegetables. The body handles these amino acids in the same way it handles them from other food sources. Aspartame itself never enters the bloodstream. In addition, tests of abuse doses of aspartame in rats and mice showed no evidence of brain tumors or any kind of tumors.
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September 14, 2006 8:12am
Reverend Flash

Information From the International Food Information Council Foundation:

It is physiologically impossible for aspartame to be a carcinogen. Aspartame is broken down in the gastrointestinal tract to small amounts of common dietary components including the amino acids, aspartic acid and phenylalanine. We consume these same components in much greater amounts in common foods, such as milk, meat, fruits and vegetables. The body handles these amino acids in the same way it handles them from other food sources. Aspartame itself never enters the bloodstream. In addition, tests of abuse doses of aspartame in rats and mice showed no evidence of brain tumors or any kind of tumors.
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September 14, 2006 8:13am
zenobia

coke zero is bullshit
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October 14, 2006 12:43am
zenobia

coke zero is bullshit
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October 14, 2006 12:43am
zenobia

coke zero is bullshit
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October 14, 2006 12:43am
louis botha

get a life. Drink beer
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October 16, 2006 10:22pm
Amelia

why drink fat coke and get fat when u can drink coke zero (which come on everyone..doesnt tasts much different to fat coke) and stay slim??

coke zero get’s my vote..diet coke it a ncie alternative for a different taste
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May 4, 2007 3:24pm
sash

My vote: Coke Zero, it almost tastes like the real thing.

Diet coke sickens me.
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May 8, 2007 2:37am
drtrey

both will kill you. … in high doses.
Artificial sugars cause cancer in rats, particularly, brain cancer. I had a patient that drank an average of 4 diet cokes a day. Died of brain cancer. Her family didnt want the hassle of court.
The struggle goes on.
My advice- stop drinking soft drinks.
“soft drinks” can be a cause diabetes, in high quantities, and artificial sugars cause cancer.

If you also smoke, then disregard this message.

gatta love a doc that drinks and searches for blogs…
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January 24, 2008 10:49am
stockboy

Diet coke definitely. I just bought 48 cans for my gay colleagues and they are lapping it up.
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