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holysheet

Rumour has it that the Morrinsville chippy has removed their job vacancy advert from their window. It appears that Cindy has decided she needs more business experience to balance out her cv.
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September 14, 2017 8:01am
- kevn
  
  I see she was back visiting schools again yesterday… dodging adults who ask awkward questions.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:08am
  - Garbageman
    
    Exactly what i was thinking when our old m8 Andy Little was down here in Invers yapping on to a bored as fk bunch of year 13 students recently its almost like they think Jacindas smile and a compliant media will do the hard yards for them but as they say a week is a long time in politics and the wheels were always going to fall off the Labour clown train it was only a matter of when
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:27am
- Huevon
  
  Clarke Gayford’s current girlfriend has made a pilgrimage to the West Coast, Labour’s spiritual homeland (that has elected National MPs in recent years).
  
  It was a relentlessly positive occasion. She met a real worker (he didn’t mention that he owns a bach). It rained. There were impressive native trees around (which used to be logged sustainably and employ many people until Helen threw them on the scrap heap of history).
  
  It was so positive, so many people with happy smiles. What’s that over there? Why aren’t they smiling? Oh, look my flight back to Grey Lynn leaves in 20 minutes…
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:53am
  - Chris R
    
    No, Damian O’Connor is their MP. He is a relatively sensible Labour MP. (Do “Labour” and “sensible” go together in a single sentence?) I take it Jacinda didn’t take a side journey through the Pike River mine, or was it occupied by the very game Winston?
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:41am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      He’s not so sensible that he didn’t upset farmers last week. When Federated Farmers suggested that many farmers were facing significant stress and mental health issues in part due to Labour’s tax threats, he dismissed this as “Tory scaremongering”.
      
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      September 14, 2017 10:54am
      - thedavincimode
        
        I guess it’s also “Tory scaremongering” to raise the number of farmers who quietly go out to the back of the farm and take the quick exit option. Something that few townies know about but is common knowledge out in the sticks. Land taxes, water taxes and fart taxes aren’t going to do anything to help that.
        
        Maybe cindy was thinking about them when she got all chocked up the other day. But then, maybe she wasn’t …
        
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        September 14, 2017 12:13pm
    - KKKKatee
      
      You wait. She’ll be leading the rescue teams into the mine if she becomes PM. She’s the light and salvation for the families who want the bodies removed. As for this ‘spiritual home of the Labour Party’ ‘ nonsense – pfftt! Why can’t they just say the West Coast is where the LP began. Touchy feely rhetoric indeed.
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:03am
  - cmm
    
    Gayford likes being in the spotlight.
    
    If Jacinda tanks in this election (looking more lively every day), is he going back to dating models or is he in it for the long haul, just like he was with the last one: Shavaughn Ruakere?
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:30am
    - Longknives
      
      There used to be an article doing the rounds with him bragging about three-ways and his status as a ‘lady’s man’.
      It seems to have mysteriously disappeared…
      
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      September 14, 2017 5:14pm
brett68

Check out Sophia, the future is just about here

http://www.hansonrobotics.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THU-Mg6H994
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September 14, 2017 8:02am
- starboard
  
  I’ll take 2 thanks. Do they come in Asian?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:08am
  - brett68
    
    They’re based in Hong Kong, so no doubt.
    
    Personally, I think this is massive, another 5 years and you’ll start seeing these Sophia bots everywhere, especially rest homes.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:14am
  - waikatogirl
    
    You’ll make a great daddy Starboard, as Sophia wants to get an education and have a family. Welcome to another arm of the LGBTR community.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:17am
    - starboard
      
      Oh no no no WG..I have other plans for them, one involves the kitchen..
      
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      September 14, 2017 8:23am
      - holysheet
        
        Be careful that you don’t allow them near anything you plug in. It could get a little hairy..
        
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        September 14, 2017 8:35am
duggledog

The Michael Cullen ‘Vote Labour’ commercial – my god what a massive, massive, epic fail. Who in the Red Camp actually thought this was a good idea?

Cullen looks like a crazy old drunk pensioner who may actually have had a little accident. Plus, nobody in the Jacindasphere will even have a clue who he is (was).

However, anybody who does know who he is (was) will still be smarting from the arse pounding he inflicted on them 9+ years ago.

I’ll tell you what’s happened here.

Labour has no proper money to pay for a halfway decent team of advertising creatives.

So Ardern & Gayford pulled favours from their Grey Lynn chums – only problem is the chums who have spare time, have spare time because they are ‘temporarily under-employed’ or just shit.

Amateurs.
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September 14, 2017 8:06am
- gorse
  
  If I could give you 10 upticks I would. Perfectly said.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:12am
- waikatogirl
  
  Cullen looks ghostlike almost translucent in that ad. Could they not get some of Cindy’s blusher to give him a little colour before the camera.
  Wouldn’t change the fact that Cullen is a nasty, envious socialist so why they roll him out as an expert on the economy shows Liarbor are desperate.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:12am
  - lifesgood
    
    A nasty envious socialist who was party to getting rid of knighthoods and then accepted one. A despicable man.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:36am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Blusher? and lipstick?
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:01am
  - sooty
    
    WG, thats after they used Cindys blusher. Imagine what he looks like in real life.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:28am
- kowtow
  
  “Generational change” and they trot out the past . Pfft.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:19am
  - chris
    
    Pale stale male? Or does that only apply to politicians who aren’t lefties?
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:30am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Time for a reminder about Dr Cullen:
  
  So here we are again, back to the rich. Cullen in his maiden speech famously had a crack at the wealthy benefactors of the elite school Christ’s College, where he was a scholarship boy (he is English lower-middle class: his father was a spectacle maker).
  
  “I’m proud of the fact that my secondary education was not paid for by the taxpayers of New Zealand but by the farmers of Canterbury and Hawke’s Bay,” the rooky MP roared. “I ripped them off for five years then, and I shall get stuck into them again in the next few years.”
  
  If this sounds like the original eat-the-rich declaration, Cullen’s explanation perhaps throws a different light. It was his first speech in the house, he recalls, and “I’m as tight and as taut and as nervous as anything, and somebody interjects on me one minute into the speech, another fundamental principle of protocol, you don’t interject during maiden speeches. And I lashed him one and I shouldn’t have done it.”
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/2329749/Regrets-I-ve-had-a-few-Michael-Cullen-reflects
  
  Labour really thinks that dragging out Michael Cullen will appease those who feel threatened by Labour’s tax agenda?
  
  “Mate, you’re dreamin'”.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:39am
  - Paulus
    
    He came from Margaret Thatcher’s electorate in North London I understand.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:42am
  - Prince
    
    Sir Mikey, we won, you lost, eat that.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:03am
  - wally
    
    I blame all those farmers’ sons for bullying him when he was at Christ’s College. No wonder he hates rich pricks (despite being one himself).
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:03am
- Paulus
  
  In Whakatane close by where Cullen lives (Ohope) nobody would know who he is, or care.
  But not too far away the wonderful Brian Gould live in his million dollar seaside mansion.
  Do they get together to put forward their brilliance to Cinderella, as they would expect to be on her Tax Tax Tax committee.
  They both need the $2,000 a day and expenses to be on the committee.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:41am
- dime
  
  link? it sounds ghastly
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:19am
  - Fletch
    
    https://www.facebook.com/NZLabourParty/videos/10154988458126452/
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:20pm
    - Komata
      
      Thanks Fletch.
      
      FWIW I went to the ‘vid and turned it off after about 10 seconds; it was indeed that bad!! Cullen looks very, very old!!
      
      An apt metiphore for the NZLP in 2017 perhaps?
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:59pm
SteveRemmington

Big day for Cindy. After Grandad was sent to a full hospital to make a nuisance of himself and to make headlines I look forward to today’s installment.

Perhaps throwing Grandma down the stairs and blaming Nationals poor handrail standards in the building code may generate votes.
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September 14, 2017 8:07am
- kevn
  
  SR… Yes, I wonder what the whole Grandpa story is?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:14am
- Tarquin North
  
  Good stuff Steve, you’re on fire early today.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:16am
  - SteveRemmington
    
    Thanks mate, I’m trying not to peak before Election Day ?
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:20am
    - ztev
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      Not that 84 year olds would be unusal going to hospital- who knew they had the front doors shut as being ‘full’ and were going round the wards at 11;30 at night seeing who could be turfed out
      
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      September 14, 2017 8:41am
      - SteveRemmington
        
        Waikato Hospital issued a public message on Tuesday saying the emergency department was full and Waikato Hospital was also full. The message was via radio, print and Internet. The Arderns either ignored or missed that notification.
        
        Granddad was also not discharged from the hospital. Mainly in part to the fact he wasn’t admitted. He attended the hospital for a minor complaint that wasn’t urgent or one that required an overnight stay.
        
        He also had family there available to take him home but they chose not to. They decided the easiest solution FOR THEM was to argue he should be given a bed for the night.
        
        Doesn’t appear to be a case of turning away a aged man who was on deaths door Ztev but more one that appears to be entitilitis by the family.
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:02am
      - Garbageman
        
        lol how does the morning meeting go ztev something like yes maam i will run with the poor old diddums getting turfed (head first im sure) out of hospital line after all we have fk all else to say of relevance now that the glosscinda has worn off
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:06am
      - MCos
        
        “Granddad was also not discharged from the hospital. Mainly in part to the fact he wasn’t admitted. He attended the hospital for a minor complaint that wasn’t urgent or one that required an overnight stay.”
        This directly contradicts Ardern’s story. She said he was admitted and they wanted to discharge him at 11.30pm because the place was full, as you say.
        Neither she nor the Hospital commented on the nature of his complaint.
        Where did you get your information.
        
        As for family becoming involved in politics. Happens all the time.
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:26am
      - SteveRemmington
        
        Mcos. News hub yesterday.
        
        Speaking to a Grey Power audience in Nelson on Wednesday, Ms Ardern said Waikato Hospital attempted to discharge her grandfather at 11:30pm on Tuesday night.
        
        “My grandfather was in hospital yesterday in Waikato. At 11:30pm at night they tried to discharge him. He lives an hour away from the hospital and he’s 85 years old.
        
        “Now, I do not blame the people working in the system. They are doing a fabulous job, but Waikato Hospital is full. It’s full, and that’s the kind of choices that the people working in our system are having to make.”
        
        Ms Ardern said when her grandfather – who she didn’t wish to name – wasn’t admitted, he just stayed out until he was seen.
        
        “He’s 85 years old. There wasn’t the ability to transport him home at that time of night, so he did remain there,” she said.
        
        She clearly states he wasn’t admitted. If he wasn’t admitted he couldn’t be discharged.
        
        Also if he wasn’t admitted, it would indicate what he presented with was not of a serious nature and did not require admittance to the ward.
        
        Simple deduction really, and considering she introduced poor old grandad into the political arena until she elaborates with further detail my deductions stand.
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:45am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Who had a home to go to and a caring loving family to see to their needs (apparently), I hope he wasn’t there because everyone was out campaigning so the hospital was being used as a baby sitter.
        Sorry granddad but you have been used and are now part of the narrative.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:05am
- fluffykiwi
  
  I blame the relatives for not looking after grandpa. I stayed by the side of my mother (in her late 90’s) when she had an accident and broke her hip. Even though in a resthome and they sent her to hospital in an ambulance I drove 1 hour each way every day she was in the hospital. She had to come back to the resthome in an ambulance because of her hip but I was at the resthome to greet her and see her settled back.
  BUT then maybe I am not an important busy person like grandpa’s busy Jacinda.
  She would have got more kudos if she had said she had taken a break from electioneering to see grandpa safely back home after recent stay in hospital.
  She couldn’t even do that, seriously. what was her partner doing, surely he could have picked grandpa up. What about his children if the grandies are too important and busy.
  See the trouble is when you bring your relations into the campaign trail they will get looked at and sometimes they will not stand up to the test.
  Shame on Clarke for not seeing to his partner’s grandpa. My husband visits my mother with me or even when I cannot make it as I will work, this is what caring people do.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:25am
  - Garbageman
    
    Big difference Fluffy is that you did what you did out of love not for some pitiful political point scoring the nasty party will use any tactic possible as they get more desperate
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:32am
    - Piniwi
      
      That was absolute dirty politics especially when most families with aged parents look after them well in NZ. How come he went to the Hospital Emergency Dept and not his Doctor or primary health provider? Surely that would be the first and most normal option. Especially since it did not require being admitted and the old gentleman might have just needed a little help and reassurance that he is still going strong. Loneliness in the aged can be a serious problem for some especially when so many friends have passed away.
      
      My wife provides her 95 year old mother with all her primary care, feeding and whatever else required. She still lives in her own home on the family block. We are some distance apart but there is also a trained nurse relative close-by too who can check blood pressure. Any changes that cause alarm a paediatrician niece is phoned and naturally will refer to family doctor first.
      
      IMO this is another blunder from Taxinda who only seems to display an increasing lack of ineptitude as her dominant attribute. Suspect we only got the Media party approved version to play on people’s emotions.
      
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      September 14, 2017 6:43pm
- Scott
  
  Labour definitely needs the votes! The polls are all over the place. Last poll had labour in the lead and now the latest poll released on Tuesday had national up by 10??
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:50am
- oldpark
  
  @Steve Remmington8.07 am
  Update on Granddad. Sleasy vote scam. Granddad was with a relative at the hospital. Miss “commie chic” Ardern was economical with the truth,as usual. Once more damning the medical staff at Waikato Hospital.What a web we weave when we set out to deceive. Her sycophants said she was traumatised. Really? run a country. Sounds she better start,with how to run a bath. Trust Lie-bour? why should any voter,with common sense.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:33am
- skyblue
  
  Reminds me of 1984 (the novel). Everyone is equal, but if you are related to Taxinda you are more equal than others.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:36am
- Fletch
  
  The story on the morning news today was that a baby died in hospital because it was too full. Never mind that Jacinda wants to change abortion law which would allow for aborting babies right up until birth. Hypocrites, all.
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:22pm
Happychappy

Good Column by Richard Prebble on Jacinda in the Herald, this shows you how scared people are for our Economy when a ex Labour MP comes out say he voted for National in early polling with his Party vote going to hopefully to a coalition Partner.
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September 14, 2017 8:08am
- Evadne
  
  Sorry, didn’t see yours and cross posted below. But I share your amazement.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:15am
  - Happychappy
    
    Thats what the blogs for to get everyones opinion and I left out that it was the first time that he had ever voted National. Cheers.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:28am
- ztev
  
  ex labour ?
  WTF he was leader of act FOR MANY YEARS.
  hasnt voted for labour for 30 years, not going to change his habits now
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:43am
  - Happychappy
    
    Who would want you as a member of anything with a I know everything attitude and a moron that would sell his soul to the devil with his lies just to get Labour in power. Remember what George Gregan said to the All Blacks four more years well in your case three more years so suck on that you germ.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:07am
    - Gabby
      
      You’d be hoping for a bit more than three years wouldn’t you chappy? Get the crappy dentures sorted, back on solids, good to go.
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:29am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    True but which government was he a cabinet minister in Ztev?
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:23am
  - GazzaW
    
    Yes, ex Labour. We have very clear memories of Richard ‘Mad Dog’ Prebble as the radical Minister in the Fourth Labour Government who sold off Air NZ, NZ Post & Telecom.
    
    A very short memory ztev? A tad weary after yesterdays efforts. Willis House and the Commissariat thanks you.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:31am
- dime
  
  very good column. gaylord will be losing his shit. expect an “epic smackdown” tweet
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:22am
  - Longknives
    
    Yep- I expect Clark to come out swinging with ‘Old White Men’, ‘Pale, Male and Stale’ and ‘Sexism’ calls..
    (Pretty ironic for a D-list shit-lebrity with quite the reputation as a ‘ladies man’ who has boasted of threesomes and mad rooting in the past)
    
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    September 14, 2017 5:12pm
    - Piniwi
      
      Another cut Longknives. Could it be that she swings by KB to “gauge” the voters mood and has decided to lay low? Sure it is not far down but we would prefer far away somewhere.
      
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      September 14, 2017 6:50pm
Evadne

Have you seen the online Herald lead article this morning? Smiley smiley glossy picture of Jacinda,,,but my jaw dropped in shock and disbelief as I read it.

Has the worm turned? Has the Herald changed its stripes? [insert cliche here].

Richard Prebble lays out quite clearly all the reasons why Jacinda is wrong, why her tax & spend policy is disastrous, her industrial relations policy is communism, and that he “was so scared I early voted. For the first time in my life I voted National. ”

It’s not even labeled “opinion”…
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September 14, 2017 8:12am
- cmm
  
  Would a bigger, more powerful state funded RNZ help or hurt the Herald?
  
  Now that Labour is threatening their business model, they’re starting to see the problems in giving everything to the state.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:30am
- krazykiwi
  
  In fairness to Prebs, he was always further to the right that National is today. I should have voted ACT!
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:38am
- AgentBallSack
  
  No one appears to have linked it so here you go. Great article btw, beats the shit out of anything Geoffrey Palmer has to say.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:55am
- mikenmild
  
  Ha, even Prebble has realised ACT is a completely dead dog…
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:24am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    So why did he Party Vote ACT?
    Must be time for your hourly coffee and bicky.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:35am
    - mikenmild
      
      How would the local ACT candidate feel about that lack of confidence? Chortle.
      Prebble is losing it isn’t he? Wasn’t he complaining the other day about Ardern’s lack of life experience (becoming an MP aged 28), as opposed to himself (Became an MP aged 28)?
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:49am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Maybe Prebble had actually done something by age 28 other than work in a Chip Shop and be in the ruling clique at Socialist International.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:38am
    - Gabby
      
      He SAYS he did donkey wee.
      
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      September 14, 2017 12:17pm
oldpark

Heard miss Ardern from joined at the hip Lie-bour /Green mafias ,performing the dance of the desperate to get a few extra votes over the treatment of her grandad.Truth is she certainly is blaming everyone,known as the” blame every one category”
Same mentality pervades all over NZ . We have it daily with parents and caregivers too busy to feed or clothe or pick up or drop off are children or relatives. They hide behind a smoke screen and blame everyone else for their own Parental Neglect for our children or relatives.
Surely someone must have taken Granddad to the hospital to drop him off. Where were his relatives including miss Ardern , Why were they not available to pick up Grandad. What a beat up for a few extra votes.
Maybe the relatives never heard of taxis,or is their an odour of Elder Abuse here ,rearing its ugly head.
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September 14, 2017 8:13am
- alex Masterley
  
  Where were granddads children in this period?
  My mother was in hospital recently, seriously ill, (mind you anything that hospitalises an 86 year old is serious), which meant my sister who lived in the same city was at the hospital with her and when she couldn’t be her husband was there.
  I was commuting between Auckland and that city for the 2 weeks to do my bit.
  It seems to me that the supporting cast who i would have expected to be present have been subbed out of the script.
  I think more will come out on this. Assuming Granddad gives a waiver to the hospital to release personal information!
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:22am
  - G152
    
    Hospitals work on triage.
    And when Casualty is full they treat the seriously ill and the drunk who fell over and skinned his knee can expect a lengthy wait.
    Her grand dad probably had some minor ailment , was treated and discharged.
    If I were a cynic I’d guess that Taxinda (love that) set it up to look like she cares….
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:31am
    - ztev
      
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      You can see the defeat that national has become real for you lot now.
      You all have become delusional.
      Good thing Colmar Brunton tonight will kick you in the teeth
      Good luck finding a hospital that isnt ‘full’ for getting treatment
      
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      September 14, 2017 8:46am
      - Happychappy
        
        The big difference in this poll will be they won’t be able to select a certain age group like they used in the last poll.
        
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        September 14, 2017 8:56am
      - Garbageman
        
        Polls are now rather irrelevant ztev except for the obvious one the public has cottoned onto the bullshit that the Labour mob spout daily without any substance and are going to reward them with another trouncing but keep the faith bro your daily desperation is beautiful to behold
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:00am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        We’re in ‘flu season, fool.
        That’s when every hospital in the world is at capacity.
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:23am
      - Lance
        
        Oh look!
        ztev is shrieking hysterically
        
        Bra ha ha ha ha ha ha
        
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        September 14, 2017 12:07pm
    - waikatogirl
      
      The hospital needed the bed and deemed grandad was well enough to be discharged. It freed up a much needed bed for someone who NEEDED it. If you have ever waited hours for a hospital bed then that is more unfair than someone who doesn’t want to go home at 11.30pm.
      
      Years ago, during Liarbor’s time in charge, my very, very sick 86 year old father-in-law, took 8 hours to be admitted into Waikato hospital. He finally got a bed at 3am. Cindy has to remember her family is not the only one relying on beds at Waikato hospital.
      
      Shout out to the wonderful work and excellent facilities at Waikato hospital these days, transformed from the grotty old conditions under Liarbor’s time in running the health system.
      
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      September 14, 2017 8:47am
      - rangitoto
        
        It sounds like Cindy’s granddad was just using the hospital as a free hotel.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:12am
      - sooty
        
        Did Cindy roll out the famous line,
        ” Don’t you know who I am! “
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:44am
  - thedavincimode
    
    which meant my sister who lived in the same city was at the hospital with her and when she couldn’t be her husband was there.
    I was commuting between Auckland and that city for the 2 weeks to do my bit.
    
    That stuff you guys were doing Masterley – that’s the gummint’s job.
    
    I hope Mum is on the up.
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:31pm
Huevon

Clarke Gayford’s current girlfriend has a soft skin. As attack ads go, National have played gently. Just wait until she starts rolling out her taxes and social engineering package. Then people will really get pissed off.
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September 14, 2017 8:15am
- kowtow
  
  Their message yesterday and Twitford on Red Radio just now …..”National scaremongering”
  Scaremongering. That poll drove them into a negative approach very quickly. They have no substance , just the Cindy effect ,that appears to have gone.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:24am
  - mara
    
    I hear the faint, tinkly sound of veneers starting to crack.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:54am
    - GazzaW
      
      The lipstick is wearing off and to reveal the hoary old pig of socialism.
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:39am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Wtf do they think National should do, swallow their invective whole and say here have the country.
    Now that is entitlement.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:13am
- waikatogirl
  
  It will be too late by then, Liarbor will have won the election and have their ample socialist bottoms warming the big seats.
  
  Yesterday Cindy was heard to say “I’m being relentlessly positive and I demand National to be honest”.
  Cindy is whining on social media that National are being awful and to move on and stop asking tough questions on her lack of tax policy.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:31am
VicParking

A teachers group (union) yesterday made a list of demands that they want implimented within 100 days after the election. Wage increases, more money for schools, money for teachers to leave Auckland, money for teachers to come to Auckland.
The demands were made at a school where the pupils had bright red uniforms and at a table that had a bright red cloth on it. Yesterday the tooth fairy also came out with a load of 100 days promises. Another party political broadcast for liebour.
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September 14, 2017 8:16am
- Happychappy
  
  Yes and did you see who was one of the Leaders Linda Stuart President of the Teachers Union this is a joke after saying that we are not tied to any other group it is what will address our teacher shortage.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:24am
- cmm
  
  Was that the school where they were all lined up to shake her hand in Dear Leader fashion?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:26am
- holysheet
  
  Now we know why Cindy keeps on visiting schools. It’s the one place she is guaranteed a smooth ride with no curly questions being asked.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:27am
  - sooty
    
    Got all the union members watching her back and children do not ask akward questions. Teachers will be wanting pay back after the election.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:48am
- G152
  
  Notice that teachers pay is way way above the kids parents incomes.
  Yet the parents have to pay rent or mortgage, feed and clothe their family, run cars just the same as the teachers.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:35am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    My partner is a teacher and I assure you, the renumeration is not that great. It would be certainly less than the ‘living wage’ if not the minimum wage when the hours worked in preparing, reporting and meetings are taken into consideration.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:50am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Maybe your partner should vote Act as she/he might be one of the good ones who should be paid more.
      A school my kids went to always had tumbleweeds in the carpark at 3.05. One kid left specs in the desk at end of term, and we wanted to go to the movies, so went down every day to see if anyone was there. Nope. All preparing and marking at home supposedly.
      The thing that really annoyed was the notice that came home on day 1 of term to say they needed a teacher only day FFS
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:31am
      - GazzaW
        
        I’m right on your side Shaun but with two teachers in the family I need to call you out on a couple of urban myths. Unless the school that your kids went to broke every regulation in the book there’s no way the staff carpark would have been empty at 3.05pm. Teachers do an inordinate amount of prep work at home and any teacher worth their salt works a fifty hour week and for half of their holiday time. NZEI membership is falling as older teachers retire and younger teachers enter the system – our local school currently has no union members on the staff. The NZEI Auckland Facebook page boasts just 573 members. ‘Teacher only’ days do not come out of the minimum number of formal school days set down by law.
        
        The majority of our teachers do a bloody good job and our younger teachers are very receptive to performance pay, national standards and charter schools.
        
        If you’re not happy with your kids’ school Shaun then I urge you to join the BOT – it’s fair more effective to be inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:53am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        @GazzaW
        I don’t dispute what you say, but my experience is that there are schools and teachers on a continuum from fabulous to woeful. We voted with our feet on the woeful one, but the prevalence of zoning these days can make that difficult.
        Some years later, I now collect a child from Afcare two days a week, and at that school the carpark is still full at 5pm.
        I love the idea of paying good teachers top dollar and can think of many that would deserve that. Some I have encountered have a cheek drawing a salary at all.
        I see no evidence at all that the teachers ‘professional body’ (Union) serves any purpose in lifting professional standards.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:33am
      - Gabby
        
        Sounds like a shit school hawn. No caretaker or cleaners in over the hols, no a/h phone, no phones at all apparently. Or you too shy and retiring a snoflake to ring about your kid’s specs.
        
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        September 14, 2017 12:15pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Teachers should not be allowed to teach unless they have been out in the world and learnt the reality of other people’s work loads and pay rates. Who else gets at least 12 weeks holiday a year on full pay? And if you teach senior secondary it is more like 16 weeks. And don’t tell me they work in the holidays, apart from maybe a couple of days, they don’t. I have inside knowledge of this. And then they have the cheek to take teacher only days during term time.
      
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      September 14, 2017 10:19am
      - GazzaW
        
        Refer my previous post lifesgood. I’m no lefty and certainly no union lover but your comment re the amount of holiday time spent working is arrant BS or alternatively your source of ‘inside knowledge’ is a totally dysfunctional teacher. As I said above ‘teacher only’ days do not come out of the minimum number of formal school days precribed by law.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:30am
      - Gabby
        
        Is your ‘inside knowledge’ a 1st XV coach who knows what the BOT chair gets up to, likesfood?
        
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        September 14, 2017 12:10pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I am with you Gaz, it appears our experience is different to Shauns and I know which version I prefer
        
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        September 14, 2017 4:40pm
    - Paulus
      
      As a Teacher surely it is like the Club.
      If you do not like the Rules (Pay and conditions) then do not join the Club.
      Did you not know the rules before joining ?- like Labour’s Tax policies.
      There are some very good dedicated Teachers but there are many more just hangers on for the short weeks and long holidays.
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:04am
- krazykiwi
  
  NZ teachers are paid slightly above the OECD average, on a par with Sweden, and ahead of the likes of Germany and Finland
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:41am
  - MCos
    
    This isn’t Sweden, Germany or Finland.
    
    I was discussing teachers’ salaries just the other day and they are very ordinary for a professional. I’m not surprised Auckland schools are struggling to recruit staff.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:38am
    - Paulus
      
      Are they Professionals ?
      How many Union….Professional bodies lead the Teachers in one professional body – NONE just a fragmented rabble.
      Or are the Union fodder ?
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:05am
    - Lance
      
      Professionals that behave like bratty 4 year olds in front of their minister when she is talking?
      
      Tui Ad
      
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      September 14, 2017 12:11pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      You might find teachers’ salaries “very ordinary for a professional”, but they’re still higher than the OECD average.
      
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      September 14, 2017 4:24pm
      - lifesgood
        
        OK, so the smarty pants on here wonder what my inside knowledge is. I worked as a senior manager in a high school for around 20 years. I know exactly what went on…teachers out the door the last day of term to travel overseas, teachers using the time to build their own homes or go to their beach house, one teacher wrote books in the holiday and earned quite a bit from that and I might add several on the staff had beach homes, that’s not exactly hard up, is it? As with any job you work your way up. Teachers with additional responsibilities get paid extra but that is never quoted in the claims about pay. Sure most of the teachers would put in a few days work in their holidays but when you have 12 weeks what’s a few days?
        
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        September 14, 2017 5:41pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Liarbor have not left any extra in their budget to pay teachers’ their wish list of higher pay and write off the education fees while studying.
  
  NZ’ers who have worked hard to support themselves will be Liarbor’s ATM and Liarbor are doing arm strengthening exercises to be ready for all that wrestling of cash from the unsuspecting public.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:01am
  - rangitoto
    
    No problem, they can just double the land, water and fart taxes.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:16am
Southern Raider

Jacinda is going all out on social media asking National to stop being negative and move on about their tax plans

Even her blind supporters keep trumping out a fully costed budget but forget that with any expenditure there has to be balancing income and you need to know where that is coming from
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September 14, 2017 8:17am
- kevn
  
  Don’t overlook the (mid-last century) industrial relations plans labour has. Think angry and hellen.. National seems to have overlooked them so far.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:22am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Bill did attempt to bring the cloth cap unionism that Liarbor intend to reintroduce up at a debate.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:12am
- kowtow
  
  She was pretty feral about Grand dad . Pot kettle.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:25am
Happychappy

Has anyone else noticed or are I not very observant that David Parker has been hidden away and not allowed to comment about any tax including water since Grant sweetcheeks Robertson has attacked National over Steven Joyce and the eleven billion hole. As much as I do not like David Parker he would have more knowedge than Robertson will ever have but it seems a small click in Labour appear to be feeding the stardust campaign.
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September 14, 2017 8:19am
- alex Masterley
  
  Yup. He has been put in his box. All Labours eggs are in the Ardern henhouse!
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:24am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And the salacious rumour is that the cock got to one of those eggs!
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:52am
  - RF
    
    Yep. His arse was kicked along with others who behind the scenes displeased Comrade Ardern.
    
    She is becoming very defensive and obviously rattled by the tide of popular opinion turning against her.
    
    6pm on One tonight will be interesting. At least it won’t be Paddy creaming his jeans about it.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:58am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Only Cindy is Liarbor’s mouthpiece as Hulun was in her time as leader. ?
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:14am
    - Happychappy
      
      RF : Well let’s hope your right I think the more she keeps calling Bill a liar the more people will turn against her as Bill has not turned the campaign into personality he has kept the line Labour’s wants to tax you not Jacinda wants to.
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:16am
- krazykiwi
  
  Robo probably has trouble using a calculator, let alone a spreadsheet.
  
  Just imagine the carnage if he had our economy to play with.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:44am
  - Prince
    
    Too hard, Call in BERL.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:18am
    - dime
      
      BERL are economists!! wow
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:34am
- GazzaW
  
  Parker is a nasty piece of work with a very short fuse. He has been shunted well and truly into the background after his meltdown threat to the Canterbury farmers to double the water tax if they kept arguing the point. He doesn’t remotely fit in with Jacinda’s current agenda.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:05am
fluffykiwi

A different angle to the so called “red under the bed” story. Maybe this gentleman could be extremely useful to NZ. He will know the names of any potential “Chinese spies” already.
He has changed sides, he is now a conservative person.
If he lied on his CV well that needs to be dealt with, but I wonder where the proof will come from and who has access to his file. Privacy and all that, Winston knows all about privacy breaches doesn’t he.
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September 14, 2017 8:19am
- kowtow
  
  People are desperate to get out of China , for a brighter certain future but that doesn’t mean he’s given up on the comrades. Apparently he’s big in the Chinese community here , but which one. The ones who turn out with the party flags when one of our overlords visits from Peking ?
  
  How is it that people who were paid up members of a genocidal , murdering, thieving, oppressive communist party can be accepted as migrants to New Zealand when say an Auschwitz camp guard would not be?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:31am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s surprising that NZ can both stay in the “Five Eyes” intelligence network while having an MP who worked for the Chinese equivalent of the NSA (the biggest Western intelligence agency of all).
    
    What qualification was this to get to NZ? “I come from the Chinese electronic spy system therefore I will be a useful NZ citizen?”
    
    Audrey Young writes in the Hooerald:
    
    What matters most is not whether he taught English to spies in China (he did), whether he once belonged to the Communist Party (some of the best Kiwis have been old Comms) or whether he declared it to the National Party when he first signed up as a list candidate (he apparently did).
    
    How can this be rationalised to NZ’s “Five Eyes” partners?
    
    Unless, unless …. surely not … NZ is providing a haven for a friend of “Five Eyes”?
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:01am
  - Gabby
    
    Somebody has to keep an eye on which new citizens are being good useful old citizens.
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:06pm
- 4077th
  
  This story has Phil Twatford’s finger prints all over it. Why is he so conspicuously absent from this campaign? Not seen anywhere in his electorate recently? Maybe still clearing customs after a visit to China?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:33am
  - Paulus
    
    Its all about Cinderella – aided by the Ugly Sister called Helen.
    The rest are bit players.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:48am
  - Gabby
    
    Back in the 8063rd we kept a close eye on Chinese with loadsa money and checked where it was coming from and going to.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:41am
- niggly
  
  Putting aside any “spying” connotations for a moment, isn’t it interesting that this hit-job story was shopped to “Newsroom” (just like the Winston Peters/superannuation story a few weeks ago), totally anonymously – again, designed as a hit job on National – again, without any “trace-ability” – again, without anyone being exposed for leaking it – again.
  
  And already on Radio NZ this morning (and presumably other media – I haven’t watched them) they somehow had lined up experts from Australia and the US “just like that” – new experts without any previous connection to NZ MSM news! No doubt shopped to them as being worth of providing interesting and newsworthy comments due to their expertise in the area of Chinese espionage!
  
  Well I just wonder, it’s almost as if Labour’s (former H1/H2 era) dark-ops/dirty-politics operatives are baaaaack, selectively feeding the MSM attack lines and if it were, like they were in the past, causing mischief and being protected by the MSM themselves so again the public have “no idea” that there is more to these stories than they appear!!
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:39am
  - Gabby
    
    I wonder if he felt out any of his colleagues in the pol sci dept as to their housing needs.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:47am
Digmen1

Has Jacinda been to any elite schools ?
Has she been to a charter school.

Two Ticks Blue
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September 14, 2017 8:24am
- Happychappy
  
  No she is to busy digger a hole for herself calling Bill English a liar and the more she keeps using this tactic the more she will turn off middle NZ.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:46am
- Gabby
  
  Tulixpu
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:47am
  - rangitoto
    
    ShetaxU
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:19am
    - Gabby
      
      rangidu
      
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      September 14, 2017 12:03pm
- sooty
  
  No. Anything more than primary school and shes out of her leaque.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:59am
cmm

I, I, I, me, me, me (no we) + a bit of pretend power and it all goes to her head.

Personally I blame the Walkman and here’s why.

Before the Walkman (1979), people – kids in particular – needed to negotiate with each other more about what music they would all listen to. That brought about negotiation skills as well as the need to consider other people’s opinions and how you fit into society.

The Walkman freed people from that: everyone goes into their own little bubble and only think of their own wants. They create a little world for themselves where they don’t need to interact with other people.

That of course grew into personal CD players, ipods and such. Then into social media where you can interact with other people but through a personal filter which you control deciding who you deal with and when you do so.

That has the effect of making the real tangible people around you more remote than people 10,000 km away in your cyber-bubble.

Cindy was born about a year after the Walkman was released. She has known no other life. She has created a bubble for herself where everyone cares about I and Me.
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September 14, 2017 8:24am
Simon

Prebble was being mean again to Princess ie telling the truth. Where is lover boy? He needs to step in. Why hasn’t loverboy got a gig yet on RNZ? It’s a disgrace NZ wants him in MSM all the time. Can never get sick of hearing from him. ie Princess being promoted by MSM through lover boy.

Another fairy tale in stuff about Princess taking the reins of Labo. Swoon. It’s just like Charlie going to the chocolate factory. Except with Labo all the maiming occurred before Princess made it to the chocolate factory
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September 14, 2017 8:24am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  It was a toss up between Clarke Gayford and Emma Espiner for the MSM new presence on the political sidelines; Em went for heads and got the gig, Clarke had to to happy with the toss
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:58am
  - sooty
    
    Need to keep Gayford free to carry the handbag!
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:01am
- 4077th
  
  Clarke Gayford…..Helen Clarke…..Coincidence?
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:08am
  - Gabby
    
    Back in the 8063 there was a bloke called Sonar cos he had good hearing. Coincidence?
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:50am
- Gabby
  
  If you keep goading he might open his gob again semon, but he’s prolly learnt his lesson.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:49am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Goading? You are such a petal.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:20am
  - thedavincimode
    
    … semon …
    
    An artist at work.
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:07pm
4077th

Peak Jacinda 🙂
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September 14, 2017 8:24am
- Kleva Kiwi
  
  Not trying to one up you or anything, but:
  
  Have we seen peak Taxinda yet?
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:34am
  - 4077th
    
    I would expect that after National’s “attack ad” yesterday she has her finger resting on the full retard button.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:51am
    - Gabby
      
      Back in the 8063rd we transferred all the retards to the other mob.
      
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      September 14, 2017 12:01pm
tf78

Think positive : 55% for National on the 24th September 2017!
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September 14, 2017 8:24am
EAD_TWO

Homosexuals getting “married” was unthinkable back in the dark ages all of about 8 years ago but now if someone dare oppose the zeitgeist they can expect widespread opprobrium from the MSM.

Australian rugby star Israel Folau slammed over anti gay marriage tweet

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/96816785/australian-rugby-star-israel-folau-slammed-over-gay-marriage-tweet

The faux outrage is beyond a joke – I mean how dare someone think that the centuries old institution of marriage as defined between and man and a woman is worth preserving?

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-cult-of-pride.html?m=0
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September 14, 2017 8:24am
- Jack5
  
  Heterosexuality is the new aberration.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:23am
smttc

I just listened to Guyon Espiner interview Winston Peters on Red Radio. What a joke.

I always knew Peters was a bullshitting, time warped charlatan. But now I also know that he is an arrogant arsehole who thinks he knows everything.
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September 14, 2017 8:26am
- Lance
  
  You only realized this now?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:34am
  - smttc
    
    Lance, let’s just say all suspicions are now confirmed and beyond doubt.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:00am
- tf78
  
  He wants to go back to the 70’s with his Bodie & Doyle “Flying Squad”. Wish someone would remind him we are now upto 2017.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:48am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Doesn’t Peters remember the Red Squad that was set up for exactly the same purpose in the 80’s? The wheels came off that as I remember with accusations of over the top strong arm policing.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:24am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Nostalgia sells.
    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-3549336/Bodie-s-Ford-Capri-hit-Professional-sells-record-55-000.html
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:38am
- VicParking
  
  Winston during the whole interview he only made one statement that had any sense to it. He told Guyon that we was an uneducated nitwit who was not qualified to ask him questions on policy.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:02am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    I know NZF supporters who display exactly the same hubris.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:12am
oldpark

When the “Commie Chic” from NZ known as Miss Ardern from joined at the hip Lie-bour/Green mafias spoke of perceived hospital abuse her mentor and partner in slime Helen Clark must have cringed about the terrible hospital abuse carried out by the Lie-bour Government in the reign of Helen Clark.
At that time there wer thousands of people on hospital waiting lists for elective surgery. Yes many ,many Elderly people desperately in need of Hips, Knees , replacements. In fact the need was so desperate people were lined up on stretchers in hospital wards. Sociopathic Lie-bour Leader Helen Clark in a fit of pique,had all the waiting lists cancelled,and the elderly were dumped to fend for themselves.
So when hypocrite and liars like miss Ardern start talking about alleged cruelty to her granddad for a few extra votes . She should make sure her brain is in gear,before she opens her mouth.
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September 14, 2017 8:26am
- holysheet
  
  Her brain had to fight for space with her teeth and has come off second best.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:32am
- starboard
  
  Yes, but then klarkula chucked over $80 000 000 at the Arts ! How does the witch sleep at night.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:02am
  - RF
    
    Hanging Upside down in her crypt waiting for unwary buggers like you to enter.
    
    Cover your neck…..
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:14am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Yes, it’s the Hulun teeth also that give that away – vamps
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:53am
      - Gabby
        
        It’s the quickest way to drain the donkey wee.
        
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        September 14, 2017 11:51am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Well Helen was keenly into art, fancied herself as a painter didn’t she. Well a would be if she could be and as per most socialists used someone else to actually do the painting for her.
    
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    September 14, 2017 3:43pm
- marcw
  
  Ardern prefaced her criticism with “from what I have gleaned”. When the real story comes out, she has created the wriggle room to say “sorry, I was misinformed”. The story the media bought is bs. Hospital staff are prevented from revealing the truth unfortunately.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:01am
wally

Was at the rugby last night. A group of 6 guys sitting in front of us who all looked like reasonably well off 40 something tradesmen or contractors. They started talking politics. “They want to tax my f…ing house, they want to tax my f…ing business, they want to tax my f…ing bach, no way I’m voting for those c..ts.” The Christchurch version of Waitakere man.
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September 14, 2017 8:35am
- 4077th
  
  Not all of us who reside in Waitakere have only expletives in our vocabulary. Slater’s Waitakere Man obsession has remained long after the long haired, black tee shirt gang moved to Tuakau 🙂
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:39am
  - Lance
    
    Also a Waitakere resident myself I make the following observation about Waitakere man.
    
    Waitakere is a working class area, as in people work hard here. Many are far more well off than the bulk of the rest of Auckland realize. There is serious money out here but it is not spent on airs and graces rather V8’s and KingCab’s.
    Many professional businesses have their highest income from their West Auckland branches, they just need to have a sign on the front door reminding people to take off their gumboots when they come in.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:55am
    - ztev
      
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      How gracious of you to notice how the other half live ?
      Not as grand as you of course…. but they get by.
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:06am
      - Lance
        
        WTF?
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:11am
      - tom hunter
        
        The world has changed and ztev can’t his mind around it.
        
        MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH….
        
        More. More.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:27am
- Biscuit
  
  There was RUGBY last night?
  
  I saw a massacre, heh heh…
  
  Still, good ol’ Wellington take on the Cantabs this weekend. Here’s hoping the red-and-blacks have ‘done a Jacinda’ and smiled once too often once too early!
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:47am
- Gabby
  
  They’ll be fking wanting me to fking pay my fking workers fking next.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:53am
  - GazzaW
    
    Are you referring to the interns Gobby?
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:13am
    - Gabby
      
      Fking goin full fking waitakere fking guzzla.
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:50am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Perhaps if paying less tax to pay for beneficiaries they could. Seems to me that taxpayers are paying for lots of ‘unproductive’ (not unreproductive) staff.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:29am
4077th

Hillary Clinton’s comments on her memoir about her election loss “the press did not do their job” I have no words…
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September 14, 2017 8:36am
- Inandout
  
  How can you improve on 95% of print in her favour at the time? And the broadcasters were falling over themselves to shower her with compliments. CNN improved their support to Golden Shower level.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:54am
- Victor Omega
  
  You don’t need to read her book. Thoughtfully, she put both the question and the answer right on the front cover.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:47am
- Gabby
  
  Back in the 8063rd there was this nurse called Fat Lips cos words kept failing her.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:56am
- RF
  
  Immediately her nose grew 6 feet and she changed her name to Pinocchio Clinton.
  
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  September 14, 2017 3:22pm
Andrei

If he was a Catholic Priest this would be all over the media but since he is an American “openly gay” politician with a “D” after his name you probably haven’t heard about it
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September 14, 2017 8:38am
- Scott
  
  Quite right Andrei. The chap is a Democrat and a good liberal and so the correct thing to do with any unsavoury allegations is to move on quickly.
  
  Otherwise one might be tempted to dwell on the connection between homosexuality and the age of consent and we couldn’t have that could we?
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:48am
  - ztev
    
    You remember the bit about the former Speaker of Congress, GOP of course who was involved in similar things-
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:08am
    - Ed Snack
      
      With the Congressional Pages, no less. But every report mentioned his party affiliation. With Ed Murray, every report seems somehow to avoid mentioning his party affiliation. Don’t know why…
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:07am
flipper

TV 3 gave out fake news last night on National’s tax ad v Labour. They claimed that there is a promise by Labour NOT to increase personal income tax.
But …..
That is fake news.
Changes to the inc9me tax rates have already been passed into law with effect from April 1 next.

Labour, Jacindagedon and queer have announced that these changes will be abolished to pay for THEIR spending promises.

Score zip for TV3.
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September 14, 2017 8:43am
- Paulus
  
  But Cinderella has said that one of the first things she will do is to legislate to cancel the Tax cuts in April.
  As it is in law she has to cancel same by legislation.
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:52am
  - 4077th
    
    Add this to the frantic trade deal renegotiations she has to do before Christmas.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:05am
    - Gabby
      
      Back in the 8063rd we thought the negotiations dragged on and on, due to the red chinese we reckon.
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:47am
  - ztev
    
    national did the same with its tax cuts in 2008, cancelled labours legislation and passed their own.
    Which were then cancelled as unaffordable.
    So much for promises
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:10am
    - starboard
      
      Pissed again so early ztrev..?
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:16am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        I think he’s just exhausted from all the overtime he’s having to work to try and save Jacinda’s posterior.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:33am
    - 4077th
      
      The bottom of your barrel must look well and truly scraped Ztrev? A tax cut while the economy was in the can after 9 years of Helengrad and a serious global financial crisis…yeah, that’s right Einstein, we have not forgotten what a mess your clan left in the village after the party.
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:28am
- Gabby
  
  That’s pedantic bullshit frigger.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:58am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    You mean right?
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:32am
Right of way is Way of Right

Richard Prebble in the Herald this morning.

“Steven Joyce’s $11.7 billion hole in Labour’s budget is conservative.”

When this is all over and done with, I think Stephen Joyce’s comments on the fiscal hole will have been the point at which the earth shifted.

The description of the Jacinda effect as a “Tidal Wave” is particularly apt.

Tidal waves are spectacular, and create a great deal of change, but are ultimately nothing but destructive!
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September 14, 2017 8:44am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  A ‘Tidal Wave’ comes in – but it must go out. Always leaves a trail of shit behind – and debt
  
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  September 14, 2017 5:22pm
oldpark

Talk about the law of unintentional consequences. When the baby died in Waikato Hospital ,causing a lot of angst,as alleged reasons was there was only one theatre for that type of new birth. What hasn’t been told or revealed,the Waikato Hospital performs 2000 abortions each year,people are asking how many theatres are available in the same hospital for ending life,as against helping mothers to give birth,sounds like more emphasis is on abortions. Same mentality as miss Ardern and her Lie-bour Party sycophants, If there are votes here lets go for it. Never let the truth here get in the way of a good lie.
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September 14, 2017 8:48am
- ztev
  
  They dont use an operating theatre for abortions silly man. Its a minor procedure which is nothing like a ceasarian.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:11am
  - mikenmild
    
    oldfart
    Senile
    Confused
    Flatulent
    Nasty
    That’s him…
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:27am
    - oldpark
      
      @ MM better known as ‘ ‘mongrel meathead ‘ or even worse,a sick retard, in need of serious claims that he is seen daily around schools in Petone .Maybe he works there,or just what is he doing there especially in the afternoons.
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:48am
      - mikenmild
        
        I think you need to proofread your comments, oldfart.
        
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        September 14, 2017 10:01am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Did you forget to swap to your Gabby profile shitbreak?
      
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      September 14, 2017 10:15am
      - Gabby
        
        Dod you forget to polish your bollocks ballbag?
        
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        September 14, 2017 11:45am
- Inandout
  
  They use knitting needles, don’t they?
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:38am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Awful for the babies family though, but it was an elective caesarian why ever wouldn’t it have been deferred, again someone politicising a families grief, the death happened in December 2016.
  I have delivered by caesarian, an emergency, child was transverse lie, not a case of too posh to push.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:39am
- fluffykiwi
  
  It was also an ELECTIVE caesarian, and it had to make way for an emergency. An elective caesarian means it is not urgent. An emergency is urgent.
  Tragedy for the family and should not have been put into the public arena.
  
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  September 14, 2017 3:48pm
ztev

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“Dr Yang has labelled media reports he was an officer in China’s People’s Liberation Army and member of the Communist Party as a racist smear campaign, but admits both are true.”- Says the story in the Sydney Morning Herald

Everyone knows he was part of the Chinese version of the KGB
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September 14, 2017 8:50am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I didn’t, so not everybody then . . . .
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:08am
  - Gabby
    
    That’s what he told you to say.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:59am
- 4077th
  
  And if he was a Labour MP what then? Oh that’s right, 90% of Chinese people don’t vote Labour so it doesn’t matter that we highlight his race for political gain?
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:14am
  - Gabby
    
    So he can make more useful contacts as a nat manchurian candidate than a labour one.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:43am
- Garbageman
  
  must be a clever fella then eh ztev good job he has come on-board with National well its not as if someone with a chinky sounding name that has an interest in politics has any other option is it
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:15am
  - Jack5
    
    I find it continually one thing surprising about the most Blue of the posters who claim to defend and welcome Chinese in NZ.
    
    Many of these folks in their Kiwiblog posts then refer to Chinese by the derogatory, racist term of “Chink” or “Chinky”.
    
    It’s as though Dame Devoid peppered her sermons with the N-word.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:08am
  - Gabby
    
    The blue shirts aren’t just going to iron themselves garbageming.
    
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    September 14, 2017 7:47pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Is it right the Maori party one oriental candidate who was cleared of election bribery? Wetex is his name and you would think Fox would have given him a tip to till after the election. She knows about underhanded stuff. Even reverted to black hair to be more like a native.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:56pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  And you’re the Labour party version of Soviet agitprop. What’s the difference?
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:25am
- Jack5
  
  Not the Chinese version of the KGB – the Chinese version of America’s giant NSA. The one that’s most interested in NZ’s membership in “Five Eyes”.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:05am
- Rachael Membery
  
  And?
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:49pm
Andrei

The CIA is replacing waterboarding as a method of torture by attaching headphones to the subject, firmly strapped to a chair and playing Hilary Clinton reading her new tome “what happened ” in audio book format .
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September 14, 2017 8:51am
- Ed Snack
  
  Just for interest, do you know how many individuals were treated with waterboarding in order to (attempt to) extract information ? Note that this excludes the US special forces people who undergo it as part of their training.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:10am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    Was it two ?
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:02pm
- Shawn Herles
  
  Terrorist suspect: “Please, noooooo!!!! I want the waterboarding, bring that back!!!!!”
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:05pm
Keeping Stock

I’m not sure who the “journalist” is in this Newsroom clip. But he does his profession no credit whatsoever by trying to physically prevent Jian Yang from going about his business. Check out the video footage:

https://twitter.com/NewsroomNZ/status/907781376341975041

Newsroom of course is supported by high-profile Labour donor Selwyn Pellett and his brother.

The existing Newsroom.co.nz site (if you go there now it is a service page for people to subscribe to the clearing house for press releases by political parties, government agencies and companies – but that is about to change) will form out of a small but interesting business now owned by MySublime NZ.

MySublime is run by Craig Pellett who with his brother Selwyn is a technology investor and entrepreneur. They bought Newsroom from none other than the NZX, our stock exchange company, after it had been purchased by one Mark Weldon when he was chief executive. The Pelletts wanted to use it to develop a news service of scale and have supported our concept from the early days.

http://stoppress.co.nz/news/s-one-way-announce-your-arrival

No surprises then that Newsroom has done several hit jobs on National, including attacks on MP’s Todd Barclay and now Jian Yang. Attacks are one thing though, but revelling in a video which shows one of its “reporters” acting in such an outrageous manner is likely to backfire on Newsroom.
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September 14, 2017 8:52am
- calendar girl
  
  A very heavy “interviewing style” by the Newsroom reporter. He wouldn’t try that trick on a Labour MP.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:07am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Wouldn’t bother Mallard too much, he’s quite handy, ask Tau . . . .
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:11am
- VicParking
  
  Only if its seen other than on blogs like this. I’m sure the MSM will never show it.
  When Jian applied for residence and to become a citizen the powers to be fully looked at this and found no problem with it.
  Stinks like a Labour hit job provided to the MSM
  Two ticks Blue.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:12am
  - mikenmild
    
    Applications for citizenship get cursory screening.
    It’s doubtful he would get a clearance in a positive vetting though.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:28am
    - Goon
      
      Bill Liu did
      
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      September 14, 2017 9:43am
      - 4077th
        
        Game, set and match 🙂
        
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        September 14, 2017 9:55am
      - mikenmild
        
        He got citizenship, yes; a security clearance, no.
        
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        September 14, 2017 11:09am
      - fluffykiwi
        
        On labour’s watch wasn’t it.
        
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        September 14, 2017 3:50pm
- MCos
  
  I haven’t looked at the Newsroom article, but I did read the piece in the Financial Times. https://www.ft.com/content/64991ca6-9796-11e7-a652-cde3f882dd7b
  This is very interesting and makes NZ look a bit weak on security.
  If you can’t read it due to the paywall. Bad luck.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:53am
RF

I hear Bernie Monk who heads the Pike River Mine families was kissing our comrades feet for her support and promises to put it right last night.

The mine drift is going to get crowded now that Ardern is joining the crew going in. Winston may have to give up his place.

She reminds me of the good fairy (sorry Grant) who flits about sprinkling fairy dust on those in need. Just what we need, another Bloody Mary Poppins.
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September 14, 2017 9:09am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I hope for her sake she stands clear when Peters asks Little for a match…
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:12am
  - Lance
    
    There will be no shortage of ignition sources, rocks spark when they fall on each other, static electricity etc. It’s the introduction of oxygen that makes it dangerous.
    Mind you, there are enough politicians involved with this stunt who suck the oxygen out of any room they enter, so maybe it will be safe?
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:18am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Yup – oxygen thieves, the lot of those Liarbor lefties.
      
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      September 14, 2017 10:08am
- VicParking
  
  I can see Winston, Little and the Tooth fairy jostling to be the first to enter the mine. At least now Winston wont have a fag in his mouth.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:15am
  - kevn
    
    VP. Wouldn’t it make a great TV skit…
    “you go first angry”… “no, you go winnie” … ” ladies first JC” … “come on the cameras rolling, Let’s Do This”
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:30am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      They would give way to the elderly wouldn’t they.
      
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      September 14, 2017 3:51pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Streuth lol, wouldn’t want that fag statement taken out of context.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:45am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Will the mine’s safety officer be held to account for failing to close the site when the gas level indicator levels were rising, or is such carelessness ok when the employees do it, Bernie?
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:28pm
  - Gabby
    
    Hope so haun, along with whoever encouraged the attitude.
    
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    September 14, 2017 7:43pm
kevn

KS… Why is the MSM so leftie friendly? Even with facts staring them in the face they don’t seem to get it.
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September 14, 2017 9:14am
fylde

Former Labour MP Richard Prebble just saying it as it is

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11921804
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September 14, 2017 9:16am
Prince

I see NZ First has been caught out on the cost of their policy to remove GST off ‘basic’ food items, whatever they are.
Winston is still getting a free pass on the Super overpayments, with Stuff continuing to echo his lie that “The overpayment likely started about 2013/14, because up until that point he was completing annual returns and said the mistake would have been picked up by IRD.”
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96748450/ird-not-source-of-winston-peters-super-overpayment-leak
Annual IRD returns do not question your living arrangements, so the over-payment would not have been caught there, but no one is calling Winston on that.
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September 14, 2017 9:30am
Manolo

Another lone wolf:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4881174/Man-attacks-seven-people-Toulouse-France.html
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September 14, 2017 9:30am
Hugh Pavletich

Report from Australia …

NZ Chinese-born MP embroiled in spy scandal – MacroBusiness Australia

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/09/nz-chinese-born-mp-embroiled-spy-scandal/

Via Newsroom:

A National Party MP who studied at an elite Chinese spy school before moving to New Zealand has attracted the interest of our Security Intelligence Service.

The list MP Jian Yang did not mention in his work or political CVs a decade he spent in the People’s Liberation Army-Air Force Engineering College or the Luoyang language institute run by China’s equivalent of the United States National Security Agency.

That agency, the Third Department, conducts spying activities for China … read more via hyperlink above …
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September 14, 2017 9:32am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Key’s $20m mansion sale great timing for him, not so much for English | The National Business Review
  
  https://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/keys-20m-mansion-sale-great-timing-him-poor-timing-english
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:49am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Wow; a man sold his house! Hugh; your grip on reality is getting tenuous mate.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:35am
    - Gabby
      
      Did he sell it to the spy.
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:34am
- Happychappy
  
  Wow this be a game changer Hugh and Labour don’t do dirty Politics.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:10am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Political system needs to change to get more young people voting, says youth organisation … TVNZ
    
    … better still … how about young people grow up … and enrol … (the authorities could not make voting more accessible / easier if they tried … please don’t bore us with lame excuses) …
    
    Political system needs to change to get more young people voting, says youth organisation … TVNZ
    
    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/political-system-needs-change-get-more-young-people-voting-says-youth-organisation
    
    A poll of 1200 people under 30 found the top issues young adults care about this election is housing, climate change and the mental health system. … VIEW & READ MORE via hyperlink above …
    
    Since initiating and co – founding the Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey with Wendell Cox in late 2004 … well in excess of 30,000 hours of voluntary time …
    
    2017 13th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey
    
    http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf
    
    Performance Urban Planning
    
    http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
    
    … so that today’s young people have the same housing opportunities I had when I was young back in the late 1970’s … when we bought our first new home for $24,000 with a mortgage of $20,000 on my SINGLE EAERNER annual income of $8,000 a year.
    
    The new home was 3.0 times my SINGLE EARNER income with the mortgage 2.5 times.
    
    Housing through the decades, what is affordable? | Newshub
    
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2016/08/housing-through-the-decades-what-is-affordable.html
    
    … Can young people take AN HOUR out of their time to vote … to assist in restoring affordable housing … for themselves ? …
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:52am
- Gabby
  
  Sounds like a jolly useful chap to have on the defence select committee.
  
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  September 14, 2017 7:41pm
Rich Prick

Just on the news here in the UK, Dame Kiri has retired. The media here gave her a great send off. It made me feel proud to be a Kiwi, she’s certainly been adopted by the UK.
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September 14, 2017 9:33am
- sooty
  
  Did they do a haka.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:17am
- Jack5
  
  A great singer, and from what I’ve seen and heard of her, a fine person.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:17am
  - Piniwi
    
    The benefits of being farnow, then and for some time far away.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:06pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Let’s hope she stays retired and doesn’t sit on the sidelines sniping at others, as she has a history of doing. Whats with singers and their unnecessary opinions?
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:25pm
- krazykiwi
  
  I recall her publicly taking a swipe at the then-newly opened Michael Fowler Centre in Wellington. Apparently her dressing room mirror was too low or something.
  
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  September 14, 2017 3:56pm
  - mikenmild
    
    I think it was about the acoustics. From memory, they were fixed with hanging baffles? She later performed there at one of the festivals, I think.
    
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    September 14, 2017 4:04pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Mmmm you may be right. I recall some acoustic work being done not long after it was opened.
      
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      September 14, 2017 4:32pm
Poppa

Colmar poll out tonight & my prediction is that Labour will have had a significant drop.

Finally people are catching up with the secret tax issues and won’t buy it. Who in their right mind wants to pay more tax?

I think we are seeing the landscape change now & we now have a situation where the average kiwi will vote for what they know rather than what they don’t because it is being hidden from view

I suspect Nat will be mid 40’s & Lab below 40
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September 14, 2017 9:36am
- 4077th
  
  And as the tide turns, watch for more sleaze from the Labour war room. Watch the “relentless positiveness” shift to relentless nastiness in the blink of her left eye.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:44am
  - Gabby
    
    Back in the 8063rd the war room had a pretty good idea which local businesses would make donations because of our little spy.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:46am
- Digmen1
  
  I hope you are right.
  If so I wonder how Corrin Danski will handle it.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:47am
  - Paulus
    
    He will cast aspersion on the latest Poll as it does not suit his thinking that Jacinda is the best thing since white bread, and he would like a job in her numerous PR departments, but he will have shit fight over the other two “experts”.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:26am
    - RalphT
      
      I think you will find Paulus that white bread is out, going stale too quickly and this likely to be pale, stale and male. In order to cement the Green vote in place Jacinda will only accept references to brown bread.
      
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      September 14, 2017 1:07pm
Odakyu-sen

You can’t tax land if you don’t know who owns it. This is a significant problem in rural Japan, where early 27% of land does not have identified owners (according to the Japanese Justice Ministry’s first survey on the current state of land ownership.)

This survey was spurred in part by the Great East Japan Earthquake, the tsunami of which wiped out entire families. When time came to rebuild the devastated hamlets, construction was stalled because in some cases it was unclear who owned which particular plot of land.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/06/07/business/rural-land-without-identified-owners-puzzling-concern-urban-planners/#.WbmoF7IjGUk
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September 14, 2017 9:53am
- MCos
  
  Something similar happened in Thailand after the Boxing Day Tsunami.
  In one area the water wreaked havoc for several ks inland and when the displayed fisher people tried to resettle back on land they’d occupied for generations some of it had been stolen by new resort developers in collusion with crooked government officials.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:02am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  This is the origins of squatters rights in English common law – a response to the great fire of london in 1666 where ownership of much land was hard to establish due to death of previous owners.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:38am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    You mean like the occupation of the land of one tribe by another?
    
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    September 14, 2017 1:12pm
- Jack5
  
  Odakyu-sen, a good example of the importance of a land registry system. Clear, transferable titles are important for economic development. They allow capital to be raised using the land as security.
  
  If there had been no colonisation, Maori system of land “ownership” and lack of transferable titles would have restricted Aotearoa to being a bigger, even poorer version of Fiji or Samoa.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:16am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Japan has a very good land registry (in general); however, some the old records have been lost over time and through fire, flood and earthquake (especially in the rural areas).
    Rural Japan is not like rural NZ. Many old villages grew organically over hundreds of years before modern town planning.
    Now, as Japan seeks to make its agriculture more rational and as the average age of a farmer hits 70, there is a need to combine pocket-sized land parcels into more effective farming operations. The trouble is finding out just who owns what, when there has been no change in land registration of a particular plot in over 50 years. Are we to assume the original owner is still alive? If he passed away, the ownership would have had to be renewed if the land was passed on to his children.
    At least the national government is getting its act into gear and starting to sort out this mess. They can certainly make the move from a paper-based to an electronic registry, as they did with share certificates over a decade ago in Japan.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:33am
- Paulus
  
  Maori cannot pay – they do not know know who owns their land.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:26am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Make all the adult iwi joint shareholders of collective land and charge them rates accordingly.
    If you benefit for land ownership then you pay the State. No exceptions. If you can’t pay your rates levied on your share, then you sell your share to clear your debt.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:37am
  - Komata
    
    Paulus: But only up to a point, and depending where they are located. You might care to ‘Google’ ‘Land under Maori Management’ to learn about one solution to this problem; the ‘Incorporations’ that exist on the East Coast of the North Island. I would suggest that the members of those group know very precisely who owns what land.
    
    (Sorry I couldn’t provide a link )
    
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    September 14, 2017 3:48pm
flipper

It seems that the Pellet pillocks are seeking to emulate Fat Mike and his attempt to “smear out” J Key over a so called “H Fee”. Remember that ?

If Yang taught English to members of the PLA so what. He was then in China and was an English teacher. All ofg the major industries and institutions are owned/controlled by7 the PLA. I had a young friend who was born and bred in Wellington. He now teaches English in Shanghai. At least 50% of his pupils, he says, are in the PLA… probably more. So the Yang “expose” is just bullshit dirty politics.

We have now had four (4) elections in a row where the holier than thou left and the MSM have engaged in dirty and personal politics. The Yang “shock, horror, probe, expose” is bad enough. So was the hit on Barclay. But the use of an octogenarian grandparent by Jacindageddon is just sick. There is low. There is the mongoloid-Hungarian Zetev, and then there is Ardern.

But outside of the Wellington beltway, and apart from a few individuals grinding blunt and ancient axes, the populace could not give a stuff. The interest of the majority of the great unwashed (the self interested NZEI/PPTA excluded) are interested only in taxes. Jacindageddon and the queer Liarbore bean counter have them worried over taxes…. not media driven Liarbore bullshit.

To paraphrase J Krey v Goffie…. “:show us ythe money jacindagedddon – sans tax increases.”
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September 14, 2017 9:54am
- 4077th
  
  Very difficult to recite chapters from a book with blank pages. Only option is to make it up as you go along. Page 3 is that’s all we have so far Mr editor..
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:01am
- mikenmild
  
  What sort of taxes did your revered friend Muldoon want, flipper?
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:02am
- MCos
  
  So you go one about smear tactics and then refer to the ‘queer beancounter’.
  I see.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:05am
  - mikenmild
    
    Keeping Stock will be along soon to tell off anyone abusing politicians. He’s good like that.
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:21am
    - itstricky
      
      SWIFTY!
      
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      September 14, 2017 1:21pm
      - Swifty
        
        You called?
        
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        September 14, 2017 3:19pm
- Gabby
  
  Maybe he only taught English, maybe he didn’t. Not sure why a pol sci dept would be hiring an English teacher. Maybe he had other qualifications.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:50am
  - Paulus
    
    Could it be that the most spoken international language is English !
    When in China short while ago every young person you came across wanted to talk to you, and vv, in English.
    It is taught as a second language in almost every school.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:29am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Being Chinese?
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:43pm
    - Gabby
      
      Intercepting communications?
      
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      September 14, 2017 7:38pm
VicParking

You can sum up our failing news paper today with its headline. “Baby dies after op delay”. Not once have I seen the headline ‘Surgeons work double shifts to save dying baby’
Mother was bumped from her ELECTIVE caesan because of an emergency case. If it had been the other way round we would have seen the headline ‘Emergency paitent dies because of elective caesan’
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September 14, 2017 10:03am
- MCos
  
  Don’t go down that path, mate.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:07am
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Leave that path to Labour.
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:24pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  You have a problem understanding the word ‘elective’
  It is commonly thought this is a voluntary thing sought by women ‘too proud to push’. Not so.
  Elective simply means the decision can be made ahead of time for various reasons. An elective CS can become an emergency if labour begins before the surgery and the very circumstances an elective CS is planned to avoid come into play.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:33am
MrTips

LOL. Cindy reveals she didn’t want the job from Little to start with. Not what Little was saying at the time (I’m not movin’ were his words). Commitment issues much or just lies?

And now Winston can’t count on GST. If only Espiner went after Cindy as much on the tax policy….
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September 14, 2017 10:08am
- sooty
  
  Seems strange that Labour had Txindas electioneering campaign waiting in the wings.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:21am
Chris R

I see Labour have announced today’s version of their odious tax intentions…how much of this is due to their recent fall in the polls? Ans: One hundred per cent! If today’s polls is bad for them (as I expect!!) we may end up with further tax cuts, sunshine and roses. Labour are panic-ridden losers.
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September 14, 2017 10:34am
Captain Mainwaring

Now Liabore is panicking. They’ve said that there will be NO tax changes until after the 2020 election. Apart from cancelling National’s April tax cuts. The mystery package was being seen as an election loser.
They are not coming across as a party that can’t make up their mind.
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September 14, 2017 10:37am
- rightoverlabour
  
  except this
  
  Fuckers
  
  Labour will end the practice of negative gearing…
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:45am
  - starboard
    
    Will just have to increase rents accordingly.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:21am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Correction: They are NOW coming across as a party that can’t make up their mind.
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:48am
  - starboard
    
    You don’t mean flip flop?
    Liarbor are flip floppers.
    Flip flop…
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:21pm
    - thedavincimode
      
      The jandal party
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:28pm
- Gabby
  
  DON’T NOT PANIC!! DON’T NOT PANIC!!
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:52am
  - Gabby
    
    DON’T NOW PANIC!! DON’T NOW PANIC!!
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:53am
    - starboard
      
      There are a few tightening of the sphincters going on in liarbor this morn..and not just with Grant Robertson.
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:20am
- Paulus
  
  Do their lips move when they Lie ?
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:30am
Prince

Labour has u-turned on tax.
That poll tonight must be dire for them.
What’s the impact on BERL’s plan ? No comment on that. We know they had factored in some extra revenue from their new taxes.
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September 14, 2017 10:43am
starboard

Lair Liar pants on fire…nothing changes with liarbor, its all bullshit, dodgy, underhand, vindictive, corrupt with a dose of smoke and mirrors..that’s liarbor.
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September 14, 2017 10:45am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And haven’t they already announced the water tax? Except it’s a ‘royalty’ so it doesn’t count.
  
  TWO TICKS BLUE !!!
  
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  September 14, 2017 10:50am
  - Gabby
    
    TULIXPU !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !
    
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    September 14, 2017 10:54am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      WETAXU !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:05am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        Now now captain, we know that any more than 3 exclamation marks is a sign of a disturbed mind.
        
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        September 14, 2017 1:31pm
    - rangitoto
      
      SheTaxU
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:35am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      Resident shitlicker is back I see. MEDIC!
      
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      September 14, 2017 12:26pm
starboard

It’s all out in the open now..liarbor have panicked.
The polls have turned on Taxinder. Cats outa the bag. Busted.There’s no salt on the fish and chips. Ther’es no polish on the turd. The pig has no lipstick. heh.
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September 14, 2017 10:52am
Shaun the Sheep

Here’s the latest back down.
First, There was the Land Tax guarantee back down .. Er … Um … Er .. It’s won’t be on the family home.

Now we’ve got Er …Um.. Er.. We won’t tax the hell out of you until 2020.

Next thing Robbo will admit the $11.7b hole … Er … Um … Er .. Um …
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September 14, 2017 10:52am
Happychappy

Has Labour and Jacinda seen the latest poll results as they have just released a statement say their will be no tax increases until after the 2021 Election.
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September 14, 2017 10:57am
- Rachael Membery
  
  I imagine so, article on Stuff says they got pre-notice of the poll before Jacinda ‘took over’.
  I have to say pretty selective of Gayford to say that he didn’t have an inkling about the take over, I assume that Jacinda told him that Andrew had suggested it.
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96820260/jacinda-ardern-rides-the-emotions-in-one-of-her-challenging-trails
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:55am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I guess the overnight UMR poll is showing the same trend as Reid Research
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:04pm
- Garbageman
  
  Must make for interesting reading Happy as ztev isnt here to gloat and stick the boot in as he tried and obviously failed before the last poll
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:36pm
ex-golfer

No new taxes before 2020 – this is Jacinda’s “read my lips/teeth” moment.

Of course devil is in the detail:
– there will be a tax increase, an income tax increase. This is because National’s announced changes on 1 April are already passed into Law. Meaning ALL working New Zealanders would be getting more money in their pockets from 1 April.
Labour reversing that legislation means all working New Zealanders will be paying more tax on 1 April under Labour.
– the water “tax” will be rephrased as a royalty or levy
– the regional fuel “tax” will be renamed a levy

Now the phrase “show me the money” can be used. If, apart from the above, there are no new taxes then how will the billions of dollars of Labours promises now be paid for in their first term?

One word – DEBT (you know, that thing they have been arguing that National has been using to the detriment of the country).

Nuclear grade hypocrisy at work.

Oh and if this is a generational shift why are stale and pales like Helen Clarke and Michael Cullen being rolled out in support?

Nuclear grade hypocrisy at work.
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September 14, 2017 11:10am
- cmm
  
  And ETS is not a tax either, that’s a trading scheme.
  
  Se we ARE pro-trade!
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:35am
- krazykiwi
  
  I agree.
  
  They will repackage their tax plans with different language.
  
  They will use pre-election speculative commentary on new taxes to claim these have “already been announced”
  
  Jacinda speaks with a forked tongue.
  
  Robo speaks with a forked tongue.
  
  These guys are liars. Plain and simple.
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:46am
  - holysheet
    
    Not called the Liarbore party for nothing, didn’t you know?
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:35pm
GazzaW

So what taxes have and haven’t been announced and what taxes have been announced and taken off the table? Will Labour still cancel the 1 April tax reduction? Is the water tax a tax or a royalty?

How will Labour be able to pay for their election promises without the additional revenue?

I wonder what’s in the CB poll tonight. Obviously not good news for Labour given Robbo’s decision to make this precipitate announcement.
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September 14, 2017 11:12am
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NZ WHISTLE-BLOWER ALERT!

The TRUTH about the Tamaki ‘Regeneration’ – GENTRIFICATION $CAM!

“Penny Bright has been shining a light into the murky recesses of public/private partnerships in the Tamaki Regeneration scheme and revealed some disturbing details…”

Authorised by Penny Bright
2017 Independent candidate for Tamaki, 86A School Rd, Kingsland, Auckland 1021.

https://www.facebook.com/penny.bright.104/posts/1796625243683493
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September 14, 2017 11:14am
- mikenmild
  
  How’s the Tamaki electorate campaign going Penny?
  Any polling info you can share with us?
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:15am
  - sooty
    
    Yep. She’s got three votes sewn up. Herself and her two cats.
    
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    September 14, 2017 11:25am
    - mikenmild
      
      Time for an update on the Tamaki electorate. The sitting MP, Simon O’Connor (the abortion/euthanasia fanatic) scored a 20,000 majority over Labour last time.
      
      Standing this year:
      
      BRIGHT, Penny – Independent. Our favourite filly. Looking to back up from her previous impressive gallops in last year’s Auckland mayoralty (6th place, with 7,000 votes!) and the 2014 Helensville stakes (6th place with 420 votes)
      LECKINGER, Richard – Green Party. Stood here in 2008 and 2011. 23rd on the Green list, and looking to solidify the Green’s solid third placing here last time (3,000 votes)
      McDONALD, Sam Labour – Party. Youngish unionist. looking to build on the 5,000-odd votes from previous candidate. No 61 on the list.
      MARCROFT, Jenny – New Zealand First Party. A new runner. The NZ First stable didn’t enter this event last time, but got 1,660 party votes. The dark horse?
      MILNE, Mike ACT – New Zealand. Finished fifth here last time with 474 votes, narrowly ahead of the informal ballots.
      O’CONNOR, Simon – National Party. Sitting MP since 2011. Unbackable favourite.
      PEPA, Mele – Māori Party. Again, no Maori Party candidate here last time, although they picked up 175 bewildered party votes. Mana stood here last time, and got 300 votes. Pepa is second-to-last on the Maori list.
      
      Predictions
      
      The only real question here is the size of the National majority in Rob Muldoon’s old stronghold.
      
      But can Penny get up for fourth place over the NZ first, Maori and ACT candidates?
      
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      September 14, 2017 11:47am
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “(the abortion/euthanasia fanatic)”
        
        No, he’s not a liberal fanatic who wants to kill babies and the sick. He’s opposed to doing so. Typ0 mikey? Or just confused about what the word fanatic means?
        
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        September 14, 2017 11:52am
      - mikenmild
        
        Who does he want to kill, Shawn?
        You didn’t enjoy his false equivalency?
        
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        September 14, 2017 12:11pm
      - starboard
        
        Get a job mm ya bum…copy and paste ain’t a job.
        
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        September 14, 2017 12:12pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Love the house colour Pen. Two ticks blue for you as well?
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:20pm
starboard

“Penny Bright has been shining a light into the murky recesses”..

Ewww..
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September 14, 2017 11:17am
- VicParking
  
  Has she been shining her teeth, and heaven forgive, combing her hair
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:27pm
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96820260/jacinda-ardern-rides-the-emotions-in-one-of-her-challenging-trails

How can telling schoolkids what to do help her cause?

“Mum, Jacinda came to school today and the teacher said you must vote for her.”

Is that going to work?
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September 14, 2017 11:33am
- Rachael Membery
  
  Maybe she is feeling clucky?
  
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  September 14, 2017 11:47am
Jack5

Southlanders put Colombian refugees through the hoops ….

Good on you Southlanders. Not so much for grilling the Colombians, but for not lying down quietly to be steamrollered by the Stalinists from the Department of Immigration and the Ministry of Business who have decreed that Southland will take in refugees.

Invercargill mayor Tim Shadbolt has questioned the Southland region’s ability to provide jobs for refugees that Wellington wants to settle there. However, I see his deputy mayor, one Rebecca Amundsen, has swallowed the ponzi idea that immigration alone creates growth.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/96822242/colombian-refugee-supporters-quizzed
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September 14, 2017 11:43am
- Jack5
  
  Amundsen is originally from Wanganui, and is a former anthropology student! No wonder she is friendly to immigration. With anthropology studies in her background, there’s a good chance Amundsen is all for MultiKulturizm.
  
  This from a Southland Times report in May:
  
  In 2001, at age 22, she moved to Invercargill with her partner who was studying architectural technology at the Southern Institute of Technology, while she studied an extramural degree in social anthropology from Massey University.
  
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  September 14, 2017 4:30pm
Keeping Stock

What’s with changing your policies, and key policies at that, AFTER the polls have opened?

That’s why I will never vote before Election Day. Jacinda Ardern and Helen Clark have presumably voted for policies that weren’t in place when they went to the polls.
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September 14, 2017 12:08pm
- mikenmild
  
  You aren’t expecting any policy announcements from Bill English in the next few days, then?
  
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  September 14, 2017 12:13pm
  - rangitoto
    
    I don’t expect we will see a policy backdown like Taxinda has done..
    
    Todays announcement:
    
    Nats introduce scheme break up parts of the Landcorp farms not subject to treaty claims and sell to young farmers. You might be young enough to qualify Micky? Bill could even give you lessons on sheep shearing.
    
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    September 14, 2017 12:45pm
    - mikenmild
      
      So there’s still time to swing the undecided voters like Keeping Stock?
      
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      September 14, 2017 1:11pm
      - rangitoto
        
        I can’t speak for Keeping Stock but if Taxinda promises world peace and eternal youth I could be swayed. But could I trust her ………
        
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        September 14, 2017 1:18pm
    - Jack5
      
      Rangitoto says: “Nats introduce scheme break up parts of the Landcorp farms not subject to treaty claims.”
      
      That seems to rule out all Landcorp’s big farms in the South Island, where Ngai Tahu have first and second rights of purchase of state assets (including land) FOR EVER! (This was negotiated for the tribe by the present Attorney-General and Treaty Minister, Finlayson, when he was a lawyer.)
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:06pm
  - Piniwi
    
    Done milkmind It’s all in the manifesto. That is not another name for hand job but feel free to see it as such.
    
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    September 14, 2017 9:22pm
Fletch

The trailer for an interesting new film on Steve McQueen and how he became a believer before he died.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSkAwTLBjK4
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September 14, 2017 12:40pm
- mikenmild
  
  Well, he was into all sorts of thing: domestic violence, abortion, drugs, quack cures for his cancer, so I guess catching religion was a good fit.
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:19pm
  - Fletch
    
    This trailer is actually better.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_7TyuPbzaM
    
    Well, hey, even some of the great saints were a-holes before they found God. Just look at Saint Augustine, who lived a life of hedonism, partying, and had mistresses etc before he became a Christian. It’s not your previous life that counts.
    
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    September 14, 2017 1:29pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Yes, I understand the Christian message: do whatever the fuck you want all your life, but repent on your deathbed and all is sweet.
      
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      September 14, 2017 1:43pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “Yes, I understand the Christian message”
        
        No you don’t.
        
        “do whatever the fuck you want all your life, but repent on your deathbed and all is sweet.”
        
        Nope. There is nothing in Scripture about death bed repentance, and Christ’s warnings about how we live our lives clearly make such an act dubious at the very least. True saving faith results in good works.
        
        Stick to things you know about mikey.
        
        Ummmm…….., I’m trying to think of what they might be…….nope, got nothing. 🙂
        
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        September 14, 2017 1:50pm
      - mikenmild
        
        I don’t want to interfere in your Godwhacking arguments about the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin, Shawn.
        But, Fletch says “it’s not your previous life that counts.” Whereas you trot out Jeebus’s “warnings about how we live our lives.”
        Sounds like sectarian strife to me!
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:03pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “But, Fletch says “it’s not your previous life that counts.” ”
        
        Which is true, IF you then go on to reform your life, which Fletch’s examples did.
        
        Your example, which was not a description of what Fletch was saying in the first place, does not involve true repentance, because true repentance leads to good works.
        
        So, no sectarian strife, just one ignorant atheist.
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:21pm
      - mikenmild
        
        So, no deathbed conversions (sorry Charles II). What is the minimum tariff Jesus allows for good works following conversion?
        If I’m an evil bastard (eat shellfish, rich, blasphemous), but repent a week before dying and leave all my wealth to the Church, will that get me in?
        I’ll understand if the details are left deliberately vague to attract the punters.
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:27pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        There is nothing in Scripture about death bed repentance
        
        So those death bed repentances nasska and I tatooed on our arses aren’t gonna work shawn??
        
        It was a bastard of a job too. You try writing backwards on your arse while bent over and looking back into the mirror.
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:33pm
      - Fletch
        
        If you have lived a life doing immoral things and have the chance to repent on your deathbed then you are a very, very lucky person. God looks at the heart. It’s not enough to arbitrarily say, “I repent” after having lived a life of sin. It’s not a get out of jail free card. You have to mean it.
        If you are truly sorry then the best thing is to do it now
        
        Led Zep were not entirely right when they sang –
        
        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run,
        There’s still time to change the road you’re on.
        
        Sometimes there isn’t time. You never know when you’re going to die. You could be living a life of sin and get hit by a truck on the way home with no chance to repent and put faith in God.
        
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        September 14, 2017 5:48pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Stick to things you know about mikey.
      
      Ummmm…….., I’m trying to think of what they might be…….nope, got nothing.
      
      I’ll take mikenmild’s opinions on NZ history above most around here, especially Jason Johns! 😉
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:26pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Whereas I’m happy to admit I know nothing about gator-skinning or regenerating extra limbs.
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:28pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    There’s hope for you yet, milkmaid.
    
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    September 14, 2017 4:19pm
RF

Labour are prone to own goals just when they think they are onto a good thing.

A lefty mate was sending me texts this morning laughing about how we have a Red spy in our Govt. He thought it was a huge joke. I also heard a media beat up about this.

Several hours later comrade Ardern flip flopped her tax policy and for some unknown reason my mate is not responding to further texts and the media are now reporting the Tax stuff up.
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September 14, 2017 1:04pm
- Gabby
  
  Peking want to know why they weren’t informed of this.
  And when do you want the next shipment of blue tshirts.
  
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  September 14, 2017 7:33pm
Odakyu-sen

I read in the local Courier a macron-encrusted article telling us how Google will be doing its bit to ~~help~~ induce us to pronounce Maori words correctly.

You mean “speak English but pronounce any loanword or foreign proper noun exactly as it is pronounced in the language of its origin”?
Okay then. Make up a sentence that includes the name of the capital of France in it.
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September 14, 2017 1:10pm
- Brigitte
  
  In France you are free
  To travel around and see
  Whether it’s a farm
  Or even Notre Dame
  Which is a church in Paris
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:57pm
you stupid boy

Does anyone know where I can find any information on the public pollsters poll results verses the actual election result at the 2014 election? I am trying to understand who was the closer of the public pollsters. I imagine DPF was the closest of the private polling companies.
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September 14, 2017 1:21pm
- Digmen1
  
  There was a good artilce which some great graohs today on the Herlad or Stuff.
  
  It showed that they were just about spot on. I think it was the average of them.
  
  I have been keeping a spreadsheet for the last 5 years.
  
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  September 14, 2017 5:26pm
tom hunter

Meanwhile in Major League Baseball, The Tribe – otherwise known as the Cleveland Indians – have won 21 games in a row to jump from a middling 69-56 season record to 90-56 – within three games of the previously monstering team, the LA Dodgers (who have faltered badly in the last month).

From memory this incredible run ties a record for the most consecutive wins in the history of the MLB – a record held by the Chicago Cubs and one other team?.

I now await some fucking pedant turning up to prove I’m wrong.

The floor is yours, Kimbo!
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September 14, 2017 1:25pm
- Kimbo
  
  At a guess, and as per Moneyball, I would have thought it was the Orlando Athletics of the early 2000s. But that must have been a franchise and/or American League record
  
  (or Hollywood puff – I saw the movie “Pawn Sacrifice” recently on the 1972 world chess championship which had Fischer resigning immediately to Spassky after his 29. – Bxh2 blunder in game 1 whereas he actually played on to the adjournment and the next day until resigning on the 56th move)
  
  …as it seems John MacGraw’s Giants of 1916 hold the record ahead of the 1880 Chicago White Stockings and the 1935 Cubs:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_longest_winning_streaks
  
  And as you well no, no stat in baseball is for pedants! 😉 1908 wasn’t for you! 😉
  
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  September 14, 2017 2:36pm
  - tom hunter
    
    Ah – there you are, Kimbo.
    
    Good. Still amazed that the Dodgers have face-planted so badly. All the same, streaks are part of the game. They’re still a hell of a good side and they should come right in time for the playoffs.
    
    Still rooting for the Tribe though – unless the Cubs somehow make it to the WS. Given their pitching woes though it does not seem likely.
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:43pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Why are you sceptical about the Cubs’ chances?:
      
      http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp
      
      Injuries in the pitching staff?
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:46pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Like I said – pitching.
      
      I thought they were getting into the groove a few weeks ago as Lester came back from injury, and Hendricks and Arrieta began pitching like they used to. Hell, Arrieta was probably the best pitcher in baseball through August – and then he pulls a hammy!!!
      
      Sure, you never know when a team is going to suddenly start clicking and god knows, they’re packed with young (and now battle-hardened) talent. But pitching is what wins series of 5 and 7 games, and I’m just not seeing it from the Cubs.
      
      You take a look at those other division-leading teams: their top three pitchers have win-loss records of mid-teens-single digits. The Cubs guys are struggling, as they have since day one of this season. Batting and fielding seem solid, but they’re not going to consistently win games 15-14 through consecutive series of 5, 7 and 7 games, against those other pitchers.
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:53pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Fair point, but yes much has changed in baseball. For example, the Red Sox just 3.5 games ahead of the evil empire half way through September, and in the good old days you just knew they would drop their bundle and the Yanks would march on through to win the division, pennant and World Series! 😉
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:59pm
  - tom hunter
    
    Well, the other thing is that when I looked at the Cubs schedule from early August on, all I saw was a bunch of largely sub-.500 teams to play against. Twenty wins minimum I hoped (crossed-fingers), even as I accepted that such a record against such opposition would hardly be confidence-building going into the playoffs, even if they somehow fluked 90 wins!
    
    But here we are at 78 wins and record of 4-6 in their last ten games.!!! And that assumes they beat frigging Mets in the next little while. If they don’t they’ll have St Louis and Milwaukee breathing down their neck all the way to the end of the season – if not overtaking them. And given that there are teams with better or similar records sitting in 2nd place they might not even close out the wildcard spot either (the Diamondbacks had a recent similar run to Cleveland’s).
    
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    September 14, 2017 3:08pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Winning one year ago doesn’t have the same tension as….108 years, does it? 😉
      
      But yes, for that reason Cleveland will be everyone’s favourite “other” team. But the prospect of the Cubs losing out to the Cards?! That’s gotta hurt – come on, tom, time to get some emotional skin in the game! 😉
      
      We’ll all be here wishing you on. 😉
      
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      September 14, 2017 3:12pm
      - Kimbo
        
        …ah, you’re right – it’s not the same tension when after only 1 year you miss out on drinks compared to 108! 😉
        
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        September 14, 2017 3:19pm
      - tom hunter
        
        Funnily enough my daughter is working in the US now – just an hour out of St Louis!!!!!
        
        I’ve told her to get to a Cub-Cards game in full boo mode (she can be a loud girl), but she’s begged off for some reason. I’ve explained to her that the hate she’ll feel from Card’s fans is as nothing compared to Yankees fans standing in Fenway. What’d Chris Rock say a few years ago – that he’d never known hate like that – and he’s Black!
        
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        September 14, 2017 3:27pm
      - Kimbo
        
        …and I start to see the Cubs problem if they falter:
        
        https://www.mlb.com/cubs/schedule/2017-09
        
        With 11 of their last 17 games against either the Brewers or Cardinals, there is nowhere to run and hide if they are to win the division.
        
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        September 14, 2017 3:34pm
- Gabby
  
  Pfft, there are big fellows running into each other in helmets again, and you’re following the boring version of cricket.
  
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  September 14, 2017 7:31pm
Albert_Ross

Bit late in the day, but I do not want to disappoint my adoring and ever-eager public by failing to make my usual comment.

Rosemary McLeod is an utterly, utterly stupid woman.
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September 14, 2017 1:37pm
- mikenmild
  
  What’s upset you, old chap?
  Reasonably thoughtful and amusing woman, is McLeod. And a renowned collector and curator of textile handcrafts.
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:42pm
  - Jack5
    
    Rattle-0n Rosemary is a “a renowned collector and curator of textile hand(i)crafts.”
    
    Perhaps Rosemary should stick to the knitting.
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:23pm
    - mikenmild
      
      She had a good exhibition at the Dowse a few years ago, and published a book (dollies and tea cosies, etc). A sphere of the arts world neglected by the cognoscenti who prefer such things as pieces of carpet masquerading as ‘drawings’.
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:32pm
      - Jack5
        
        An interesting pastime.
        
        Have tea cosies died out? Do people keep tea stewing in a pot when it’s so easy to remake with electric kettles and tea bags?
        
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        September 14, 2017 2:40pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Dollies are not doilies.
        http://www.free-crochet.com/images/patterns/large/3518.jpg
        
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        September 14, 2017 7:31pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Tea cosies have not died out.
        
        Here are some modeled on a prolific Kiwiblogger
        https://cloud.lovindublin.com/images/michael-tea-higgins.png?mtime=20170104122541
        
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        September 14, 2017 7:38pm
  - Brito
    
    Mikenmild, your opinion of Felicity Ferret seems to be viewed through a rose coloured lens. This is a sour woman, a vile woman who takes pleasure in the belittlement of men, and those aspiring to be men. I’ve read some of your comments and I think I’ve found a foil who needs a little tickle and thrust.
    
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    September 14, 2017 5:14pm
starboard

http://www.taxpayers.org.nz

another fine read..esp the bit about the police car
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September 14, 2017 1:52pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Ridiculous waste of money, same as the tractor that goes to Fieldays.
  
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  September 14, 2017 1:58pm
- Brito
  
  I have to say Starboard I think from you’re writing you may quietly tack to port while your alone on the sea. Shame, you had the makings of a nice wee anarchist.
  
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  September 14, 2017 4:48pm
tom hunter

And in yet more unpolitical news….

Tommorrow the Cassini spacecraft will be deliberately crashed into Saturn, ending a mission that started in 1997. It’s been orbiting Saturn since 2004.

It’s a delibrate crash as the thing has almost run put of fuel and they don’t want to contaminate moons that might harbour life.
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September 14, 2017 2:00pm
- mikenmild
  
  Next mission is a probe to investigate the rings around Uranus.
  
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  September 14, 2017 2:05pm
  - Jack5
    
    For a second I thought you were taking the Mickey, Milky – you know, “looking up Uranus”.
    
    But I see the push is for close-up looks at Uranus (the star, that is) and Neptune.
    
    https://www.space.com/37291-nasa-eyes-uranus-neptune-missions.html
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:19pm
  - tom hunter
    
    I laughed ’till I stopped!
    
    The only proper response
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:20pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Sure, an oldie but a goodie. I’ll try to stick to original jokes and puns.
      
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      September 14, 2017 2:30pm
  - Johnboy
    
    Silly fool. It doesn’t have enough fuel to make it back to HOBM’s changing rooms! 🙂
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:21pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Good one gabby.
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:41pm
    - Gabby
      
      You funny guy damingygoat. They laugh in Peking at your joking.
      
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      September 14, 2017 7:28pm
Andrei

This guy is a hero
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September 14, 2017 2:01pm
Jack5

Nine days until we vote and the twists and turns continue.

Now that National looks safe again, maybe list vote choice is back in the picture for many: ACT, Winnie, Cat Man, the Greens?
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September 14, 2017 2:11pm
- mikenmild
  
  Add in the wild card of the new independent MP for Tamaki…
  
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  September 14, 2017 2:16pm
  - Jack5
    
    And the Hon. Penny would blitz Kiwiblog flat with a screed of long press releases.
    
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    September 14, 2017 2:42pm
Jack5

In the Port Hills electorate, three present list MPS are trying to beat Ruth Dyson in her bid to win the seat again: Nuk Korako (National), Dennis O’Rourke (NZ First), and Eugenie Sage (Greens).

MMP lists are an electoral lolly scramble.
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September 14, 2017 2:37pm
- mikenmild
  
  Did Nuk Korako ever get his lost luggage bill passed into legislation?
  
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  September 14, 2017 2:49pm
  - Jack5
    
    Nuk’s bill is likely still going round and round and round the carousel, waiting to be picked up.
    
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    September 14, 2017 3:14pm
    - mikenmild
      
      I think it was referred to a select committee where it was quietly done to death, after serving its purpose of wasting parliamentary time.
      
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      September 14, 2017 3:51pm
  - thedavincimode
    
    Did the carpet inspector ever get his lost luggage back and if so, did he have to build an extra wing on his house to accommodate it all?
    
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    September 14, 2017 5:39pm
Swifty

Winnie on Nat Rad today:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/339374/the-leader-interview-winston-peters

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry…
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September 14, 2017 3:21pm
Swifty

Labour are HOPELESS! – according to the Herald.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11922278
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September 14, 2017 3:37pm
cha

H.R. McMaster’s FOUO memo on stopping leaks – gets leaked.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/trump-administration-launches-broad-new-anti-leak-program?utm_term=.tyP6669bxa#.vb7MMMLZzr
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September 14, 2017 3:46pm
SPC

Tory government action in the UK to help first home buyers.

“Landlords now face a 3% stamp duty surcharge levied on newly-purchased second and subsequent properties. They also face a gradual loss of tax relief on mortgage interest payments.

Some of the changes were a response to concerns from first-time buyers that they were regularly outbid by landlords.

Yet, as a result, RICS’ members predicted that rents will rise at 3% a year for the next five years compared with an annual 2% increase in house prices.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41254714

As many as 5.2 million UK adults – or one in 10 – have bought or inherited a second home, according to research.

Think tank the Resolution Foundation said the number of multiple home owners grew by 30% between 2002 and 2014.

At the other end of the scale, four in 10 adults own no property at all.

The foundation said the number of people without property had also risen over the 12-year period.

As a result, the study concluded that there was a growing gap between those who have property wealth and those who do not.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40973859
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September 14, 2017 3:55pm
- krazykiwi
  
  And in NZ, 73.6 per cent of landlords plan rent rises if Labour wins.
  
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  September 14, 2017 4:19pm
  - Jack5
    
    The market sets rents, but if there is collusion, there’s always the Commerce Commission.
    
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    September 14, 2017 4:20pm
krazykiwi

[Raises right hand]

I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully downtick and report each comment by Hugh, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the integrity of Kiwiblog.

So help me God.
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September 14, 2017 4:02pm
UpandComer

Guyon Espiner’s interview with Winston is pretty funny.

My god I hope National don’t need Winston.
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September 14, 2017 4:14pm
- Jack5
  
  Espiner is a pompous twat, no matter who he is interviewing.
  
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  September 14, 2017 4:21pm
  - Kimbo
    
    And Peters is a pompous twat, no matter by whom he is being interviewed! 😉
    
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    September 14, 2017 4:27pm
    - Jack5
      
      They should have backgrounded the interview with something from Elgar’s Pomp and Circumstances marches.
      
      To give Espiner his due, he did stay in the English language for the whole interview.
      
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      September 14, 2017 4:34pm
  - starboard
    
    Espiners ball and chain is not too shabby..nothin wrong.
    Who the fkuc names their offspring Guyon??
    
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    September 14, 2017 7:25pm
    - Gabby
      
      Who names their starfish choccy?
      
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      September 14, 2017 8:14pm
Jack5

Trump is creeping upwards in the polls.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-14/donald-trump-poll-numbers-up-after-hurricanes-harvey-irma/8941226
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September 14, 2017 4:19pm
- mikenmild
  
  Is that what creeps do?
  
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  September 14, 2017 4:37pm
  - Shawn Herles
    
    No, he said Trump, not Jacinda. 🙂
    
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    September 14, 2017 4:42pm
  - Jack5
    
    I hope you’re not implying that about English and National’s climb back up, Milky.
    
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    September 14, 2017 4:42pm
Fletch

Hillary thinks that the point of Orwell’s 1984 was that we need to trust the State, the “experts” and the media…. 😯

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/hillarys-hilarious-misinterpretation-orwells-1984

Weird how absolutely nobody else in history has ever interpreted it that way.
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September 14, 2017 4:34pm
Brito

Interested in your opinions on fart tax and why it’s an idea destined for the dung heap (if I may)? I read a lot of humour here and there is the odd smattering of common sense, but when you get down to it, are we not at risk of just knob polishing. Get your teeth into the issue and work out ways of mowing the greens and their associated rabble down. Work out how to install the fear of Jacinda introducing a tooth tax (or as Grant might say – Oral Care). Get the information which is going to cause a voter to pause, think and then react viscerally.
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September 14, 2017 4:36pm
Jack5

Over 400 posts by 4.45pm

The target for tonight is a 500-post raid on the capital of the Establishment.

The Keas were supposed to be the pathfinders but haven’t turned up. We’ll find the target without them, and that’s good because it means we will have secure radio silence.
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September 14, 2017 4:48pm
Jack5

Heaps of Kiwis use Kapersky as their anti-virus software.

But the US Department of Homeland Security reckons Kapersky has links with Russian intelligence services and wants Kapersky anti-virus off American government computers.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41262049
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September 14, 2017 5:08pm
Manolo

An excellent article:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/09/trying-to-control-our-waistlines-is-beyond-the-governments-power/

It will take years of destructive meddling for the government to accept that controlling people’s waistlines is beyond its power. It could save a lot of time and money now if it admitted that it is also beyond its remit.
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September 14, 2017 5:17pm
AgentBallSack

Any word as to when the Jacinda rug will be available for sale? Surely it would be sexist to only create them of John Keys and Chicken Little? I must admit, I am curious as to whether or not it will match her curtains.
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September 14, 2017 5:18pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Whooosshhh for most.
  No comment from me – it will get me a strike.
  ABS rules ( if he means what I think he means)
  
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  September 14, 2017 5:35pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Any word as to when the Jacinda rug will be available for sale
  
  Goodness gracious Ballsack. Kindly explain your self!
  
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  September 14, 2017 5:36pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Hint:
  Google search Andrew Little rug 😀
  
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  September 14, 2017 5:48pm
- Gabby
  
  What a dirty fucker!
  
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  September 14, 2017 7:21pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Shitlicker. MEDIC!
    
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    September 14, 2017 7:31pm
    - Gabby
      
      You dirty sod. You dirty old man!
      
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      September 14, 2017 7:52pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        It comes as no surprise you are scared of vagina, as scatological and coprophilia references are your forte. Two licks poo!
        My initial name for you Gobshite still stands.
        
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        September 14, 2017 8:14pm
      - Gabby
        
        What a fucking rotter.
        
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        September 14, 2017 8:22pm
      - starboard
        
        Well said Ballsack..
        
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        September 14, 2017 8:39pm
noskire

Another great policy from the Gweens: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96842839/greens-lay-out-plan-for-compulsory-te-reo-mori-in-all-schools
I had thought they were all about the environment, but they have even greater plans (can’t quite recall what environmental initiatives they have, but who cares).
So, if te-reo-mori is to be compulsory in all schools, which subject gets the boot? Math, science…ah, probably English. Because Maori is a really handy language to have when you’re travelling abroad.
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September 14, 2017 5:31pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Moari is great in Hawaii, similar but different.
  Gets confusing, tapu = hapu.
  Never mind, Hawaiians understand ENGLISH
  
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  September 14, 2017 5:59pm
Longknives

Jesus I just about puked watching that news article on ‘Pakeha’ learning to speak the pointless and dying Maori language.
Every one of them literally drowning in White Guilt (and most wearing Bone Carvings no doubt..)
I’m actually surprised that wimp they interviewed didn’t burst into tears and apologise for being White…
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September 14, 2017 6:26pm
dad4justice

No water in Westport and you need a mortgage to buy a block of butter , cheese or a leg of lamb!!! What a fucked up country run by fucked up people!
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September 14, 2017 7:13pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  I would have thought you were more the block of butter and hindquarters of lamb type person D4J. Sounds like a fun night in Westport.
  
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  September 14, 2017 7:42pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Fucked up country being run by fucked up people.
  
  Well.. that makes a prime candidate for King Fuck Up
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:55pm
stigie

“What a fucked up country run by fucked up people!”

Why don’t you put yourself forward Dad and make everybody feel warm and fuzzy with goose bumps just the sight of seeing you..?
BTW Dad, got a block of butter today on special for $4.49 !~
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September 14, 2017 7:20pm
cha

Any mention of the A word and they really will lose their shit.

@RealDonaldTrump If AP is correct, Trump base is blown up, destroyed, irreparable, and disillusioned beyond repair. No promise is credible. https://t.co/uJjxk6uX5g— Steve King (@SteveKingIA) September 14, 2017
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September 14, 2017 7:50pm
- cha
  
  #Amnesty Don
  
  In a meeting with establishment politicians from the Problem Solvers Caucus and the Blue Dog Coalition, President Trump signaled a full-fledged cave on the issue of giving amnesty to nearly 800,000 illegal aliens currently protected by an Obama-created executive immigration program.
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/13/report-trump-caves-on-daca-wants-quick-amnesty-for-800k-illegal-aliens/
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:03pm
  - Gabby
    
    You know sometimes I get the impression the Chumpster might not entirely know what he’s doing.
    
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    September 14, 2017 8:21pm
EAD_TWO

Paris and Los Angeles have been confirmed as the hosts of the 2024 and 2028 Olympic games.

That’s got to be monumentally optimistic, what the hell will Paris look like in 7 years or LA in 11?!

https://pics.onsizzle.com/paris-under-nazi-occupation-lala-andre-zucca-bhvproger-viollettopfoto-nown-just-19544107.png
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September 14, 2017 8:04pm
Brito

Has anybody heard if Turei has been put to bed permanently? I see she still appears on the web site and just to confirm, did Ardern definitely say, “I will not have that woman in my cabinet?” If she didn’t, James as Deputy PM and Turei as Social Welfare Minister is still on the cards. Please confirm I need to sleep tonight.
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September 14, 2017 8:06pm
- AgentBallSack
  
  Tu is still an MP and is standing for Te Tai Tokerau. She is still a list member for Greens and is not out of Parliament yet. Sleep well!
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:18pm
- nasska
  
  Turei is not on the Green Party list. She is however, standing as an electorate candidate for the Greens in Te Tai Tonga.
  
  I’m happy to say that I have more chance of winning that seat & I’m not Maori nor Green nor standing.
  
  So no. Put down the pills & the plastic bag & relax. 🙂
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:20pm
starboard

ok, you need to sleep tonight…
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September 14, 2017 8:14pm
Rachael Membery

Well done Kiwirail and workers
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/96808940/picton-to-christchurch-railway-line-reopens-for-freight
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September 14, 2017 8:23pm
Brito

Starboard that’s balderdash (n.), or as we often call it, “a rapidly receding hairline”. Try not to circumvent (n.) the comments (not an opening in shorts worn by Jewish men), but answer the bloody question. Is she out or not???
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September 14, 2017 8:28pm
- starboard
  
  come back to ya ‘Brito’.*snigger*, just picking fluff outa my belly button..
  
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  September 14, 2017 8:37pm
Brito

Ok well answered. I sleep.
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September 14, 2017 8:31pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Brito

This is all I can come up with:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11898840

If you read it carefully, you can conclude anything…

The Herald: Jacinda won’t have Metiria in Cabinet
Jacinda: Denies that she forced metiria’s hand.

Honestly who knows what these flakos said or thought?…. they flippity-flop daily.
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September 14, 2017 8:37pm
nasska

I was listening to Jacinda talking about poverty when I was distracted by a guy at the side of the stage. He was holding onto a rope that led to Jacinda’s wrist and ended down the back of her pants suit.

I learned later that it was a safety device, in case she started disappearing up her own arse.
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September 14, 2017 8:46pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You’ve glimpsed our very own Oozlum bird
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oozlum_bird
  When young, oozlum birds fly straight; it is only when they turn left that the trouble starts.
  
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  September 14, 2017 9:02pm
Don the Kiwi

Must be related to the Woozle Bird.
When startled by an animal of prey, it flies around in ever diminishing circles, till it disappears up it’s own fundamental orifice – from which lofty heights it gazes with mingled scorn and contempt upon it’s pursuers below.
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September 14, 2017 9:57pm
Don the Kiwi

466 comments.
Looks like the 500 target will be missed again. 🙂
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September 14, 2017 9:58pm
Don the Kiwi

http://www.drroyspencer.com/my-global-warming-skepticism-for-dummies

Why Do Some Scientists Say It’s Cooling, while Others Say the Warming is Even Accelerating? Since there is so much year-to-year (and even decade-to-decade) variability in global average temperatures, whether it has warmed or cooled depends upon how far back you look in time. For instance, over the last 100 years, there was an overall warming which was stronger toward the end of the 20th Century. This is why some say “warming is accelerating”. But if we look at a shorter, more recent period of time, say since the record warm year of 1998, one could say that it has cooled in the last 10-12 years. But, as I mentioned above, neither of these can tell us anything about whether warming is happening “now”, or will happen in the future.
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September 14, 2017 10:08pm
Piniwi

This will have the Greens knickers bunched up. Another Kiwi first leading the world in ways to save the planet. We grow grass very well but now it can be a tool for reducing Nitrogen levels in pasture.

A commonly grazed weed with the ability to significantly reduce nitrogen leaching has been developed by scientists, they’ve called it Ecotain.

Ngāi Tahu operates 17 dairy farms near the Waimakariri River – they’ve been working with Agricom and have Ecotain in some of their pastures. They plan to have it sewn into 30 percent of their paddocks in the next four years.

“We’ve seen from this science there’s up to 89 percent reduction from the urine patches which we know is the biggest contributing factor to Nitrogen that is leached, so I think we can safely say there’s going to be a 20-30 percent reduction,” says NgÄi Tahu Dairies’ Shane Kelly.

It is a broadleaf weed so the next step is too educate the cow that is the best for helping the planet. We know “Kiwi’s can” but too many Greens are imports so it will take longer for them to understand this massive breakthrough. Weeds helping wee’s who would thought?
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September 15, 2017 12:16am
Manolo

Even DPF is prepared to praise President Trump. ?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-on-politics-column-20170914-story.html
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