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Rodney Randall

Metiria is gone!!!

Gone to WINZ to collect unemployment benefit.
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August 4, 2017 10:38am
- Gruffydd
  
  She will never be a practicing lawyer .
  
  $ sale
  One castle.
  
  Former owner has a meeting with pitch forks .
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:49am
- Garbageman
  
  Yep when Gower is putting in the boot this heavy you know they are on the blood trail and wont be satiated until they have that large carcass hanging from their wall they tried with Barclay and failed so my bet is they will double down on the fraudster to placate their wounded pride or am I giving the muck raking mongrels to much credit by expecting them to actually do their job properly for a change
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:57am
Hugh Pavletich

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AUCKLAND HOUSING FIASCO … NO THANKS TO NICK SMITH …

Watch New Zealand Building & Construction Minister Dr Nick Smith defend Auckland’s lousy new housing construction …

… In broad terms … with the declining ‘consent rate per 1000 population per annum’ (standard industry measure) just north of 6 and below the national average … the Auckland performance is pathetic …

… The tedious Tory tinkerer Nick Smith should have been fired long ago … refer GONE GONE GOING section at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org …

… Interest Co NZ reports …

An existential Auckland housing debate during Parliament’s Question Time: Do land bankers even exist? Also, building consents vs code compliance certificates (and Nick Smith’s defective knob) | interest.co.nz

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/89139/existential-auckland-housing-debate-during-parliaments-question-time-do-land-bankers

By Alex Tarrant

The government on Thursday fought back against accusations from Labour and the Greens that Special Housing Areas (SHAs) legislation had in fact encouraged land banking and not building in certain areas, as some land owners might have been incentivised to wait for the temporary law to expire to get around affordable housing criteria. Read more via hyperlink above …
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August 4, 2017 10:39am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
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  Economic bounce in provinces as Kiwis flee cities for the good life | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/95172682/economic-bounce-in-provinces-as-kiwis-enjoy-the-good-life
  
  Auckland Council admits housing accord falls well short of housing target | Catherine Harris | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/95367215/council-admits-housing-accord-falls-well-short-of-housing-target
  
  Building minister weighs in on Auckland’s housing accord | Catherine Harris | Stuff.co.nz
  
  https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/property/95367215/Building-minister-weighs-in-on-Aucklands-housing-accord
  
  … concluding …
  
  Phil Twyford, Labour’s housing spokesman, described the Auckland accord as “a joke”.
  
  “They [the Government] have got this simplistic purile view that if you just build more houses, prices will come down and houses will be affordable, completely underestimating the complexity of urban land markets.”
  
  Since the unitary plan took over,Twyford believed Auckland’s housing problems had taken a step in the right direction.
  
  Plan changes now extended beyond the urban growth boundary and density restrictions had been freed up.
  
  “But it’s still drip-feeding new land for development into a highly speculative land market.” … read more via hyperlinks above …
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:02am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Sorry Hugh, just got back from a National Party morning tea and your 10:39AM, 10.40AM and 11.02AM comments had already disappeared.
  And rightly so.
  
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  August 4, 2017 12:43pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Not mention 123-0 win for downticks as at 1:02PM.
    
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    August 4, 2017 1:02pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Capt Mainwaring … focus on the issues.
      
      One can fully understand why the National Party wishes the housing issue would just vanish.
      
      Sadly their record this near 9 years has been pathetic. It infuriates me how they are handing it to the centre-left on a plate.
      
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      August 4, 2017 2:47pm
Hugh Pavletich

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Average Toronto home price drops $173,000 since April | Toronto Star

https://www.thestar.com/business/real_estate/2017/08/03/toronto-home-prices-fall-for-third-month-in-a-row.html

The real estate industry is downplaying a third consecutive month-to-month decline in Toronto-area home prices that saw the average cost of a home drop $173,000 between April and July — from $919,449 to $746,216.

Prices were still up 5 per cent year over year, from $710,471 in July 2016. The numbers, released by the Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) on Thursday, are averaged across all housing types.

It’s the kind of annual mid-single digit increase that indicates a return to healthy market conditions following months of record price escalation, according to the industry … read more via hyperlink above …
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August 4, 2017 10:40am
- starboard
  
  You only have yourself to blame Hugh..people are over your negative shite. Take a hint..foxtrot oscar.
  
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  August 4, 2017 12:09pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Starboard … possibly you are not aware of this …
    
    Poverty, gap between rich & poor and housing affordability, housing shortage, and homelessness dominate discussion in lead-up to election, says Roy Morgan poll | interest.co.nz
    
    http://www.interest.co.nz/news/89038/poverty-gap-between-rich-poor-and-housing-affordability-housing-shortage-and-homelessness
    
    Content sourced from Roy Morgan Research
    
    In mid-2017, and only a few months before the upcoming New Zealand Election which according to Roy Morgan is too close to call*, the key Issues for the New Zealand Election are the inter-related issues of Poverty and the gap between rich & poor, House prices & Housing affordability and Housing shortages & Homelessness.
    
    The overall picture across all issues was covered extensively in our release on broader New Zealand Concerns released a fortnight ago and available to view here. We look in this release at Economic & Housing-related concerns in greater detail.
    
    A significant 50% of New Zealanders believe Economic issues (27%) or Housing-related issues (23%) are the most important problems facing New Zealand. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    … with access to extensive further polling and associated information at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org
    
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    August 4, 2017 12:42pm
  - Garbageman
    
    Stop encouraging him SB you know he only uses replies to add another screed of rapid mouse scrolling cut & paste drivel, good point though
    
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    August 4, 2017 12:58pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Toronto housing slump intensifies as buyers retreat – MacroBusiness Australia
  
  https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/08/toronto-housing-slump-intensifies-buyers-retreat/
  
  By Leith van Onselen
  
  The Toronto Real Estate Board has tried to put lipstick on a pig:
  
  TORONTO, ONTARIO, August 3, 2017 – Toronto Real Estate Board President Tim Syrianos announced that Greater Toronto Area REALTORS® reported 5,921 residential transactions through TREB’s MLS® System in July 2017. This result was down by 40.4 per cent on a year-over-year basis, led by the detached market segment – both in the City of Toronto and surrounding regions.While sales were down, the number of new listings reported were only … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  August 4, 2017 2:59pm
Surely Knott

Apparently yesterday was #NationalWatermelonDay. How perfectly aligned with the Greens busy day in the media. Twas a happy watermelon day indeed.
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August 4, 2017 10:43am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Apparently yesterday was #NationalWatermelonDay.”
  
  You are mikenmild and I claim my chocolate fish prize.
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:53am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Ummm. It was a happy Watermelon day for me because it went very badly for the Greens. So no – not mikenmild. Please post the chocolate fish to me.
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:23am
Happychappy

I wonder how long it will take for the Sonny Bill Williams knockers to come out and say the All Blacks are cheating after his ban was over turned allowing him to play in the first test against Australia.
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August 4, 2017 10:44am
- MCos
  
  Personally I’ve always been an admirer of SBW’s sporting abilities. I was disappointed when he left rugby to play for the Roosters & his sevens career never came to anything.
  Now he’s back.
  However I couldn’t believe the ABs practice run has been counted as a game. So too are the IRB.
  Anyway, I hope he sorts out those Australians.
  (I tossing up whether to hang onto Sky at great expense, to watch these tests)
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:18am
  - Kimbo
    
    Agreed. Those of us at the amateur level who have had to shelter behind a goal post while writing out the team game card at the last minute in a blistering cold and wet sou’ wester, knowing very well that if we get even one thing wrong or mixed up players any points could be deducted
    
    …are astounded at the leeway the professionals are granted. Especially when we are foisted at times with the administration of useless accoutrements like arranging photo id. At amateur level?!. For example, no way would a training run or match not played under IRB rules with two 40 minute halves be sanctioned as a “game”. And there is no way, that at the amateur level this would have been anything other than a deduction of competition points, “genuine mistake” or not:
    
    The bizarre situation arose during the Rugby Championship test between the All Blacks and Springboks when a South African match official noted Shand had incorrectly listed Keven Mealamu, not Dane Coles, as the replacement hooker on the team sheet.
    
    Banks, who managed the All Blacks in 1996-1999 under coach John Hart, said he sympathised with Shand for making such a mistake.
    
    “I did feel for him because those are the sorts of things that sometimes, but not very often, can happen,” Banks said.
    
    “And when you have got the rugby world focusing on it, you are the person who is responsible for a bit of a hiccup.
    
    “So it is not the most comfortable place to be.”
    
    During the pow-wow, which forced the game to be halted in the second half, Shand could be heard saying it was a “genuine mistake”.
    
    “I didn’t realise until just now during the game,” he said.
    
    The match continued after referee Nigel Owens consulted respective captains Richie McCaw and Jean de Villiers.
    
    Although de Villiers joked – or that is what it seemed – a try to Beauden Barrett should be disallowed, Shand must have been immensely relieved when the Boks skipper agreed the game should continue.
    
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/9254043/Darren-Shand-gets-support-after-blunder
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:28am
  - Dave Stringer
    
    Check out “Rugby Pass” it streams all tests live, even the POHM ones ?
    
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    August 4, 2017 6:21pm
- RF
  
  Happychappy.
  
  Let me be first cab off the rank.
  
  The Muslim thug got a hospital pass. Mind you that’s where his opponents finish up.
  
  A bad bad move. The ABs will dancing in the streets as their bribe was accepted.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:21am
oldpark

The lies from the joined at the hip Lie-bour/Green Party are now becoming legendary. A few documented lies from Turei,has also hidden a main lie from the well named Lie-bour Party.
We can all get our teeth into this one. Even though it was stated by Angry Andy Little’s replacement,that he resigned,the real truth is he was” FIRED”.
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August 4, 2017 10:45am
- MCos
  
  Who cares?
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:20am
BeaB

An amazing discussion about who is a Maori on Radio NZ this morning. Kevin Davis is but Paula Bennett isn’t. Very strange but then the Left hate being trumped by National.
And the list is a long one going back decades but most recently the first woman Prime Minister and the first Maori woman Deputy Prime Minister.
But perhaps if you are National you are not a real Maori!
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August 4, 2017 10:45am
- Garbageman
  
  lol didn’t you get the memo Bea we are all rich white pricks which obviously means we don’t get to be one of the special people regardless of heritage or hue
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:09am
- SN
  
  I heard that and was appalled. Then I was shocked as Guyon actually stood up for Bennett!
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:18am
- Fletch
  
  One of the news networks reported yesterday that Helen Clark was the first female Prime Minister in NZ. Sorry, but that award goes to Jenny Shipley. She may not be the first elected but she was still New Zealand’s first female Prime Minister.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:59am
  - Nukuleka
    
    No NZ Prime Minister is ‘elected’! The PM is generally the leader of the party which garners the greatest number of MPs. I have never been given the opportunity to ‘elect’ a PM!
    
    Helen Clark was never ‘elected’ as PM.
    
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    August 4, 2017 2:31pm
duggledog

I think if Jacinda Ardern’s Labour Party really wants to reconnect with the centre then she needs to lance the ugly festering boil that is Metiria Turei TODAY.

Turei is on a par with the odious and deluded Martin / Martyn Bradbury.

It is now clear that the welfare cheat Turei spent her young years partying, lying and gaming the system (McGillicuddys were all about anarchic behaviour, I remember them well. Wankers.).

There is also a sword of Damocles, of a type, hanging over Labour itself as one of its former high profile MPs either turned her back on a poor Maori woman who impregnated her son, or was helping out, surely knowing the true status of her offspring’s relationship.

Unbelievably she has yet to be doorstopped by the media. Bad look for Labour.

What a pickle for the Greens! Dump Turei and outrage the perpetually outraged, or possibly miss out on being in Government yet again!

Jacinda, tear up the MOU in front of the cameras, or at least text Shaw and tell him you will if he doesn’t publicly dump the execrable grinning Turei.

TODAY
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August 4, 2017 10:46am
- niggly
  
  Unfortunately wouldn’t be suprised if Jacinda won’t, because like Turei, and her mentor H1, she is part of that same “sisterhood” identity politics construct, therefore won’t (or will find it hard to) condemn Turei.
  
  Notice how it was Kelvin Davis who did Labour’s “condemning” today. Kelvin is Deputy. So was Jacinda when she Deputy to Little, so if she wasn’t prepared to so then, I’d doubt she would be prepared to do so now as Leader.
  
  Better to have a “man” (Davis) be the baddy – suits the Left’s feminist narrative etc.
  
  So who is Jacinda – is she leading Labour for all NZers, or is she another Helen Clark-lite type leading Labour for the “privileged” identity politics supporting factions? No doubt we will see more over time to have that answered …
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:57am
- BananaLlama
  
  a poor Maori woman who impregnated her son
  
  This has me roaring with laughter. Only in the Labour party.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:01am
  - RalphT
    
    Indeed, because we know the Labour Party doesn’t believe in traditional male-female arrangements.
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:54am
kowtow

Is this the diversity dividend in Australia .They’ve let in so many dangerous Muslims that building a synagogue is now deemed to be too risky.

But our media will continue to divert attention to Trump, Trump, Trump.

“A LOCAL council has banned the construction of a synagogue in Bondi because it could be a terrorist target, in a shock move that religious leaders say has caved in to Islamic extremism and created a dangerous precedent.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/a-shameful-day-for-australia/news-story/2eb9b0e70195d0425acc0168de14d0a6
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August 4, 2017 10:50am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Yes sir. If you make them angry, then it’s your fault! (Isn’t provocation a crime?)
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:55am
  - marcw
    
    No, since Weatherspoon tried that defence (and failed), provocation is no longer an excuse. Worst. Mistake. Ever. By our legal elites.
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:30am
- Gabby
  
  There are already a dozen or so synagogues / centres in Bondi. They must blend in better or something.
  
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  August 4, 2017 7:03pm
Nookin

….woman who impregnated her son

I am not sure whether you have confused your birds with your bees or this is another way of saying that she fucked over Hartley’s son also.
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August 4, 2017 10:51am
- simpleton1
  
  Sounds batikhäxa,
  Save the children.
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:57am
Chris2

There have been 208 allegations of fraud against Immigration staff in the last five years, commonly conflicts of interest and wrongly issuing visa to relatives.

This reflects the fact that many Immigration staff are themselves immigrants.

This corruption never happened when NZ-born staff only held these positions.
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August 4, 2017 10:51am
- kowtow
  
  Is corruption in the public service part of this diversity dividend we are always being commanded to celebrate and embrace and which we are told is so enriching , enriching who?
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:54am
- Swifty
  
  It’s something that is never talked about – the fact that importing people en masse from countries where this is normal leads to…….
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:09am
- Albert_Ross
  
  Allegations? Have they been proven?
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:26pm
BeaB

If Turei stays then we owe David Garrett a massive apology for punishing him for his youthful mistake. After all, if it’s okay for Metiria it’s okay for everyone else.
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August 4, 2017 10:51am
- Ashley Schaeffer
  
  I thought the same thing this morning when I read Turei’s comment that “we all make youthful mistakes…”. Was Turei part of the lynch mob that came for DG?
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:56am
B.L.Zeebub

It seems the media asking Jacinda about babies is the narrative that Labour and the media are running with, oh, and some talentless radio couple separating
that`s the big news today.
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August 4, 2017 10:52am
- MCos
  
  “Some talentless radio couple separating that’s the big news today”
  Really!
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:27am
BeaB

I am waiting for Ann Hartless to explain why she and her son Paul so cruelly abandoned Metiria and their daughter and grand-daughter.
Desperate women can driven to desperate measures when there is no help or support and they are struggling to survive.
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August 4, 2017 10:54am
- KevOB
  
  But did they. Paul’s name was stated as being on the mortgage. The lies have been flowing and it smells like normal domestic arrangements with WINZ involuntary helping with payments.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:10pm
Nigel Kearney

This is fairly disgusting:

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/bondi-synagogue-ban-over-terrorism-risk-leaves-jewish-community-shocked-and-furious/news-story/6ec6252d613583df7797c7cac2b25de4
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August 4, 2017 10:54am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  To be consistent, the Bondi Council should ban coffee shops. After all, these are proven terrorist targets in Sydney.
  
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  August 4, 2017 10:58am
  - redeye
    
    And Mosques. After all Islamophobia is rampant apparently.
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:20am
Happychappy

Jacinda has to climb 5% in the polls before she can make the demand to the Greens as it is a choice of having the chance of forming a Government or not. Winston Peters won’t get 20% and Labour won’t get 30% so they need the Greens,
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August 4, 2017 10:57am
Fisiani

Jacinta is trying to prove that you can polish a turd.
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August 4, 2017 11:04am
- Adolf Fiinkensein
  
  She’ll struggle to polish Turei.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:33am
Manolo

Deep State vs Trump:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287
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August 4, 2017 11:06am
- Inandout
  
  Meanwhile there is a group in the US which have gained access to Hillary’s emails to the Muslim woman Abedin. Mueller should worry.
  
  http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/03/judicial-watch-reveals-more-hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-emails
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:34am
Surely Knott

It’s annoying that the electoral roll and habitation index aren’t digitized and available online for free. I have a local politician who claims to live in one area a. while her public statements say that she grew up and her parents home is in area a. but her actual members declaration only names her property in area b. But it costs $120 bucks to get the habitation index. Is it available at post office or library.
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August 4, 2017 11:06am
- simpleton1
  
  “You can check your enrolment details on the printed electoral roll at your local PostShop”
  http://www.elections.org.nz/voters/enrol-check-or-update-now/how-check-your-enrolment-details
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:16am
  - Surely Knott
    
    Thanks but it’s someone elses electoral details I would like to check.
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:22am
    - simpleton1
      
      “on the printed electoral roll” as quoted above.
      Not sure if it has changed, but it was like a telephone directory, which years ago occasionally I checked when looking for relatives or friends who had shifted.
      Handy as it also had their occupation, and all names in full, with residential address, and so helped confirm things compared to a telephone directory.
      You can look for any one, but you do have to figure or know which electorate they are in. Then they also have to be enrolled.
      
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      August 4, 2017 11:28am
- Gabby
  
  What was the first seat that Ponyboy stood in? Where was he living at the time? What address did he give?
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:41am
  - pentwig
    
    Idiot!
    
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    August 4, 2017 7:45pm
- insider
  
  They are not available electronically because parliament doesn’t trust real estate agents and market researchers.
  
  Try your local library. They have them usually and often historic sets – that’s how metu was tracked Down.
  
  Note you can legally live in one area but represent another.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:46am
  - sooty
    
    So thats how bad penny can stand for election in so many places.
    
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    August 4, 2017 12:42pm
MrTips

This election will be won for National by it fully utilising two people:

Nikki Kaye and Paula Bennett

One has beaten Ardern twice at the hustings and shown her to be the loser she is; the second shows up her true social and virtue lightweight ideology.
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August 4, 2017 11:10am
- Gabby
  
  Pullya should definitely be front and centre. I want to hear her story of raising a chld on the dpb while in no way ‘deliberately’ misleading winz.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:42am
  - stigie
    
    Show us what you’ve got Gobby or zip it sweetie !~
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:45am
    - Gabby
      
      That’s a Pullya line isn’t it stinky. She must’ve thought of that one just a bit too late.
      
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      August 4, 2017 12:03pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Like you and the rest of the germs “proof” is what is needed not the crap you spew. Go back to the hole you crawled out of .
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:49am
    - Gabby
      
      That’s a bit crappy, chappy. You need to fix your own germs or your tooth holes will get bigger and bigger. You didn’t ‘flat with’ Pullya I take it.
      
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      August 4, 2017 12:01pm
Shawn Herles

British police finally make an arrest in the 2003 case of a 14 year old girl who was raped and murdered by a Muslim grooming gang, then ground up and sold as kebab meat.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/02/police-make-arrest-decade-old-case-teen-girl-killed-body-put-kebab-meat/

“Earlier this year, another kebab shop made headlines after it was revealed that a 16-year-old girl was brutally gang raped by multiple Afghan Muslim men.

Muslim grooming gangs also continue to plague the North of England, according to recent reports, in which police allege that the Yorkshire town of Keighley may be home to a new grooming scandal involving over 179 individual sex crimes.

The most infamous case of sexual abuse of young girls still remains that of Rotherham in which over 1,400 underage girls were systematically raped, tortured, and many forced into prostitution and addiction to drugs. The rapists remained at large for so long largely because police were too afraid of the backlash for mentioning the ethnic origins of the Muslim male perpetrators.”
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August 4, 2017 11:20am
- Gabby
  
  Blackpool police apologised sincerely for having failed miserably to lose the cctv footage.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:45am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Sometimes Gabby you actually crack a good one…
    
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    August 4, 2017 12:06pm
- Inandout
  
  Yet some guy puts a pork chop on a mosque door and gets two years in prison. This is what Muslims can sink to, on a par with the worst of concentration camp atrocities.
  
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  August 4, 2017 12:25pm
- Jack5
  
  An four former Prime Ministers – Clark, Palmer, Moore, and Bolger – have called for more refugees to be admitted to NZ.
  
  Given that Christian Middle Easterners seem to be being largely shut out of the refugee chain, that means they want more Muslims in NZ.
  
  The Four Stooges.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:52pm
Simon

Davis said Labour would assess whether Turei’s latest revelations could damage Labour.

He and Ardern had not discussed Turei’s admissions, but he told the AM Show “we’re just going to have to have a good discussion about how this is going to affect us, because we don’t want to be seen to be condoning this sort of stuff”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11898744

Bury the fraudister. Turay and her supporters have more in common with the people running Venezuela or Zimbabwe than New Zealanders.

That these labo clowns have to think about this if is damaging or not. Still fucking mongs.
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August 4, 2017 11:29am
- Peter
  
  That these labo clowns have to think about this if is damaging or not. Still fucking mongs.
  
  Exactly. The patently obvious is not obvious to Labour, and it is the root of their problems.
  
  They can hammer the Greens. The Greens have ruled out National so Labour is their only option. Therefore, Labour can piss all over them, at will, all the time.
  
  They have to hammer the Greens, else Greens will steal Labour vote.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:43am
- RalphT
  
  Nooo! Don’t talk to her about Zimbabwe; that’ll give her the idea that she can hang around until she’s 95.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:59am
- Paulus
  
  Davis is only supposed to be the equivalent of a male bum boy to Jacincerella.
  It is not his place to comment on anything unless she tells him. Helen would have had him slapped down by now to learn his place.
  She and caucus may have made a mistake in appointing him – remember he is a school headmaster who is trained and educated to lead.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:38pm
JasonJohns

More big wins for Trump. President of the Boy Scouts hailed him for giving greatest speech in history! And WaPo leak of Trump’s phone calls only showed a master negotiator in action.

This man is a phenomenon. Hasn’t put a foot wrong since being elected despite facing bigger obstacles than any other President.
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August 4, 2017 11:29am
- MCos
  
  Apart from Civil War, WWI, WWII, WTC, and so on and so forth . . . .
  
  Never mind, if the money’s right . . . . Eh
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:38am
JasonJohns

Clueless left trying to exonerate Metiria by saying Key did the same thing
https://twitter.com/LewSOS/status/893195554884206592
Difference is Key is a classy businessman while Metiria’s a no-hoper beneficiary Maori
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August 4, 2017 11:32am
- Gabby
  
  I know jizzyjocks. What kind of country is it where she gets to have any address. Pony worked hard to have options. Wherever he hangs his hats, that’s his homes.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:50am
Swifty

Hey DG, if you read this, do you recall if Turei had anything to say during your imbroglio?

It would be delicious if she had – given her recent comments about youthful indiscretions……
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August 4, 2017 11:35am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

What a critical time and opportunity for Jacinda….today ! If she rejects the Telly Tubby as a cabinet minister, she will bask in the glory that decisive leadership brings. If she does not, she will look weak, and Winston will be laughing all the way to the bar. The best outcome is that she reject the Tubby one, and green start crying about the MOU and call it off……this gives labour a real shot as greens will never go National. I could see that Labour & Winston First getting 50% between them.
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August 4, 2017 11:40am
- Garbageman
  
  all we have from Labour so far is the tried & true fence sitting lines “its not a good look” etc waiting to see which way the court of public opinions goes no doubt before they decide which way to swing but we all know they need the toxic Greens so they will be playing this one rather carefully unfortunately as they are still joined at the hip the stench that is the Greens will follow them everywhere long may it continue
  
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  August 4, 2017 12:01pm
JasonJohns

Sheila as PM? No thanks.
Especially when fertile Bill is outgunning her six nil.
This election is all about sex and demographics and fluids.
Civilisation is threatened by swarms of barbarians, as Kiwiblog general comments show every day.
Christian whites have to reproduce or massive numbers or they will lose their lebensraum.
Bill English has shown he has fecundity. His fluids are potent. By contrast Jacinda is batting zero despite admitting to fornication. Let’s keep up the rhetoric showing the contrast between the Christian procreator and the feminist fornicator. Voters will have a clear choice and National will once again be a truly conservative party.
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August 4, 2017 11:47am
- Swifty
  
  Lol!
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:55am
- Shawn Herles
  
  You seem to be obsessed with “fluids” and Gabby is obsessed with poo.
  
  Are the two of you related by any chance? 🙂
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:56am
  - Garbageman
    
    That could make a great new Marvel movie Jizzboy & the Shithead coming to a theatre near you
    
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    August 4, 2017 12:04pm
holysheet

The poll results on MeTu are interesting
Was it wrong for me tu to lie to get a bigger benefit?
National voters 85% yes
Liabore 67% yes
Winston First 77% yes
Gweens 51% yes

The disturbing thing here is the 15% of National voters who think its okay to lie and get a bigger benefit. What is wrong with these people?
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August 4, 2017 11:52am
- Gabby
  
  They’ll be Bingles’ old electorate.
  
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  August 4, 2017 11:58am
Kimbo

From a legal point of view the comparison between Turei and David Garrett and the passport thing is not in Turei’s favour, especially as DG had been through the legal system. Now, even Labour is distancing themselves from her.

However, from a “political brand” perspective, she may survive. Remember, hard lefties are indeed judged by different standards when it comes to “laura norder”, especially compared to right-wing politicians like DG who staked their whole political career on anti-crime. Indeed, the odd arrest while demonstrating for Greenpeace is a badge of honour. And the way she has spun her benefit fraud, Turei may be able to survive in her political niche, and with her deranged supporters. Winston dodged teh Owen Gelnn bullet somehow due to the blind fanatacism of his supporters and the alignment of politics. If Labour need thee Greens post-September 23…

However, if it was ever found Turei logged pohutakawa trees on her property and turned them into pulp for shiny porno mags…she would be a goner. I don’t make the rules, I just report them. 😉
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August 4, 2017 12:01pm
Shawn Herles

Patrick Gower: Jacinda Ardern must rule out Metiria Turei if she won’t stand down

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/patrick-gower-jacinda-ardern-must-rule-out-metiria-turei-if-she-won-t-stand-down.html
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August 4, 2017 12:03pm
- Gabby
  
  Here’s where the media see if their creation will do their bidding.
  
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  August 4, 2017 12:05pm
Fletch

Even National Review has weighed in on the Jacinda baby question, reporting, “Claims of Sexism in New Zealand Don’t Have Much Evidence”.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450090/new-zealand-sexism-claims-have-little-evidence
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August 4, 2017 12:04pm
Happychappy

So Andrew Little lied to his caucus about figures in UMR Poll results. Who would have thought that Little and Labour were lying and even trying to deceive their MP’s when the polls put Labour at 20% and NZ First at 19%.This from a Leader and someone that wants to hold others to account.
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August 4, 2017 12:11pm
marcw

The Green Toad won’t step down – but will not seek a Ministerial position. Entitled much!!!
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August 4, 2017 12:12pm
holysheet

No mention of the electorate fraud?
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August 4, 2017 12:15pm
Shawn Herles

“Metiria Turei has ruled herself out of a ministerial role, should the Greens form part of the next Government.”

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/metiria-turei-won-t-take-ministerial-role.html
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August 4, 2017 12:16pm
- stigie
  
  “I am not resigning because i have a story to tell and i haven’t finished that story on poverty”.
  What an entitled smarmy bitch we have in parliament !~
  
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  August 4, 2017 12:21pm
  - KevOB
    
    She is just inviting prosecution.
    
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    August 4, 2017 1:14pm
- simpleton1
  
  As Shaw supports Metiria, and was and still supports her story about this, will he also rule himself out of being a minister?.
  
  What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
  
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  August 4, 2017 2:11pm
Shawn Herles

‘Australian terrorist plot: Bid to smuggle bomb through airport thwarted at check-in’

“An Australian-born terrorism plot to place a bomb on a passenger plane was dangerously close to being carried out before it was unwittingly thwarted at an airline check-in counter.

New details about the attempt to bring down the commercial flight out of Sydney provides a chilling insight into how close Islamic State-inspired terrorists allegedly came to executing the mass-casualty attack.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/95431932
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August 4, 2017 12:21pm
edd

Immigration reform is coming to a town near you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxkL10Rhwp4
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August 4, 2017 12:27pm
Shawn Herles

Winning.

“Polls Show Huge Public Support for Donald Trump’s Immigration Reforms”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/03/polls-show-huge-public-support-donald-trumps-immigration-reforms/

Flipped.

West Virginia governor switches party affiliation from Democrats to Republicans to support Trump agenda.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/03/west-virginia-governor-im-switching-parties-because-i-cant-help-you-anymore-as-a-democrat/
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August 4, 2017 12:33pm
- kowtow
  
  TVNZ’s coverage of the proposed immigration act was utter shit .
  
  But then why could I expect it to be anything else?
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:01pm
JasonJohns

Fake news alert!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40820863
Mueller claims to be assembling a grand jury. Trump will nix it. He has the power and the obligation to pardon himself.
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August 4, 2017 12:34pm
Right of way is Way of Right

Metiria has announced she will not be standing down and will instead not seek a ministerial post in a Labour/Green government.

On that basis, I will now go to the bank and steal a million dollars, but if I win first division Lotto in the future, I won’t claim it!
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August 4, 2017 12:38pm
dime

saw this on stuff, thought it was another story about the greens leader:

Benefit fraudster caught out by holiday photos
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August 4, 2017 12:55pm
Muttonbird

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Big win for Ardern today. To have Turei rule herself out of a Labour/Green cabinet without spilling blood on the floor shows leadership. The kind of leadership Hosking said she didn’t have.

Arden has now shown she has muscle as well as charisma. People just want to do things for her which is what real leadership is about.
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August 4, 2017 12:58pm
- Shawn Herles
  
  “Big win for Ardern today. To have Turei rule herself out of a Labour/Green cabinet without spilling blood on the floor shows leadership.”
  
  Bollocks. Adern had nothing to do with it.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:12pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    It’s clear Ardern spoke to the Greens about it this morning. Ardern recognised the reaction to Turei was damaging the Greens, Labour, and their efforts to change the government. She got the right result by distancing Labour enough to send the message that what Turei did isn’t ok, but not enough to cause division in the opposition.
    
    As I said, recognising the correct position to take and actioning it takes political nous and political steel. Ardern has thats in spades to go with her acknowledged charisma.
    
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    August 4, 2017 1:57pm
  - sam green
    
    How would you know Shawn Herles?
    
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    August 4, 2017 4:33pm
    - Shawn Herles
      
      By looking at the facts. Claiming that it was Adern’s “leadership” that forced Turei to make the announcement is pure bullshit. The 3 News investigation into her lies and fraud was the reason.
      
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      August 4, 2017 5:05pm
      - sam green
        
        No it wasn’t. They were gunning for a resignation which didn’t happen. Ruling herself out of a ministerial portfolio was out of left field. Maybe Ardern’s negotiating skills are up there. No blood spilled is a pretty damn good result – although I’m sure Garner and Farrar will keep on with their campaigns – fomenting happy mischief and all that.
        
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        August 4, 2017 5:34pm
      - sam green
        
        It will be really interesting to see if Mr happy mischief goes after Bennett with the same fervour once the complaints have been investigated.
        
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        August 4, 2017 5:41pm
      - starboard
        
        stupid boy…
        
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        August 4, 2017 5:52pm
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “They were gunning for a resignation”
        
        Psychic now are we? The only thing they were gunning for was information.
        
        “Ruling herself out of a ministerial portfolio was out of left field.”
        
        Not at all. It was either that or resign. One or the other was inevitable after the 3 News investigation, which had nothing to with Adern or her supposed leadership skills.
        
        “Ardern’s negotiating skills are up there.”
        
        How do you know she negotiated anything? All we know is that she met with the Greens, which she was going to do regardless after getting the Labour leadership. And as far as the facts are concerned, that is all we know. There are no facts concerning her negotiating anything. You and Mutton are just reading into it what you want, based on nothing other than fantasy.
        
        “No blood spilled is a pretty damn good result”
        
        Not for justice. And in reality blood has been spilled. That the investigation into Turei’s lies and fraud has resulted in her having to rule out any position in a potential Labour-Green government looks pretty bloody to me.
        
        And the MSD is still investigating her. And she has also admitted to electoral fraud. Cripes, there is blood everywhere! 🙂
        
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        August 4, 2017 6:02pm
      - sam green
        
        In your bloody dreams maybe.
        
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        August 4, 2017 11:45pm
- Ross12
  
  Muttonbird
  if you think that will satisfy the average voter , think again. Most will be thinking Ardern did nothing and left any “heavy lifting” by Labour to Davis.
  If Ardern was to show leadership behind the scenes she would have persuaded Shaw to make sure Turei was gone altogether. Most votes lost by the Greens would have gone to Labour.
  So a major loss to Ardern.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:13pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Quite agree Ross12. Hard to believe you are related to ross001.
    What Queen Jacinda should have said is that she refuses to have anyone in her Cabinet from a party that continues to have the poisonous Turei in it.
    
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    August 4, 2017 1:29pm
  - SGA
    
    If Ardern was to show leadership behind the scenes she would have persuaded Shaw to make sure Turei was gone altogether. Most votes lost by the Greens would have gone to Labour.
    
    Why would Labour get more votes from the Greens with Turei gone? Couldn’t one argue exactly the opposite (i.e., more votes will leak with her there)? Just curious.
    
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    August 4, 2017 1:33pm
    - Ross12
      
      SGA
      I’m thinking that Labour has slowly lost votes to the Greens over the past 12 months or so ( probably some to NZF as well) so if Ardern showed some strength and integrity she would get back some of that “soft” vote and those that are annoyed with Turei’s stand.
      
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      August 4, 2017 2:17pm
      - SGA
        
        Those soft voters annoyed with Turei are likely to move to Labour pretty much regardless, I would have thought (and that the Greens themselves aren’t being proactive about her would contribute to that). Couldn’t you make a better case that Ardern may have missed an opportunity to grab a few more soft Nat and NZF voters by playing hardball? Just musing.
        
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        August 4, 2017 2:59pm
      - Ross12
        
        SGA
        You are probably right that a strong stance could have got “soft” voters from all parties but I think it would have guaranteed the voter shift from the Green’s. It is probably not too late –Turei is bound to make another gaff before the weekend is out.
        
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        August 4, 2017 3:22pm
- Jack5
  
  Muttonbird, Ardern is all teeth and no bite.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:53pm
  - Muttonbird
    
    Hoho. You keep going down the track of attacking her looks. See where that gets the National Party.
    
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    August 4, 2017 2:04pm
    - Jack5
      
      Hoho and hoho back, or should that be tītī, tītī to a Muttonbird.
      
      Who was attacking Ardern’s looks?
      
      Her teeth are remarkable, and catch the eye. I bet there are ~~actresses~~ actors who would love to have them.
      
      Cartoonists focus on the teeth as an important part of Brand Ardern.
      
      I bet when she’s more famous Arden can make a bit of cash sponsoring a tooth brush or tooth paste. Some day, the choppers could even be a superannuation supplement like make-up promotional videos by the wrinklie, Jane Fonda. Only I’m sure Ardern’s teeth will still sparkle.
      
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      August 4, 2017 2:14pm
    - Shawn Herles
      
      “See where that gets the National Party”
      
      It’s a private citizen on a blog doing so, not the National party, and not any National MPs.
      
      So what does that have to do with National’s campaign?
      
      You seem confused.
      
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      August 4, 2017 2:23pm
- Inandout
  
  Not a minister perhaps, but the rat is still in the nest, and consequently will foul the Labour Party.
  
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  August 4, 2017 2:24pm
- realityczech
  
  She is thin skinned, perpetually offended by normal things and has lived a very sheltered life of unearned privilege.
  
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  August 4, 2017 5:21pm
  - sam green
    
    And you of course are a wearyworn veteran of years of hard labouring ….trolling?
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:50pm
Manolo

Miss Ardern, an expert on the use of the word “comrade”, has more colours than the rainbow. As another political chameleon, the socialist will dodge the issue of Turei’s crookedness.
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August 4, 2017 1:05pm
RF

Dear god.

Photo of the princess with the new logo

“Lets do this” underneath.

No thanks…. I’m fussy.
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August 4, 2017 1:26pm
- Gabby
  
  Your thoughts would go there of course rf rf.
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:30pm
Nostradamus

Breaking news: Jacinda Ardern reveals Labour’s election slogan is ‘Let’s do this’. That’s an interesting idea – borrowing from Miley Cyrus’ song of the same name:

I rode all night on a big old bus
You came a long way to be with us
You paid good money
To see a show
Ya, lets get ready
Cause here we go
Get on your feet, ’cause I’m plugged in
So come on, let’s do this

Yes, we paid good money to see the Labour’s Got (No) Talent show.

Ardern will be the only one featured on the party’s billboards in the lead-up to September’s election – replacing billboards that featured both her and Little. On not being featured on the billboards, new deputy leader Kelvin Davis said all he had to do was bask in the reflected glory from his leader.

No feature items for Kelvin Davis in Women’s Weekly then?
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August 4, 2017 1:30pm
- starboard
  
  Lazy maori..
  
  “Deputy leader Kelvin Davis said he had the “easiest job in politics”.
  
  “I get to just kick back and bask in the glow of the Jacinda-effect.”
  
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  August 4, 2017 4:36pm
  - sam green
    
    Lazy starboard. (And sad man).
    
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    August 4, 2017 11:51pm
- Gabby
  
  They won’t use the music, or music resembling it, without asking though surely.
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:29pm
rangitoto

“Lets do this”

I think “Let someone else do it” would fit in better with their constituents.
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August 4, 2017 1:32pm
- Gabby
  
  National have been trialling ‘It’s An Operational Matter’.
  
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  August 4, 2017 7:27pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Hasn’t taken you long to amass heaps of comments, I wonder who you used to be?
    
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    August 4, 2017 8:20pm
    - sam green
      
      You perhaps?
      
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      August 5, 2017 12:19am
AgentBallSack

Let’s do this!

Interestingly enough is a much used slogan for losing weight.

About 200 pounds of fraudulent co-leader seems sufficient.
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August 4, 2017 1:40pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Bit like the old TV advert slogan
  – Let’s do it, let’s eat a banana!
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:47pm
Bullion

So, Bill English had to pay back $32k back in 2009 after claiming his main residence was in Southland but in fact was in Wellington but then 2 years later in 2011 he was registered to vote in Clutha-Southland electoral roll and then in 2014 registered in Wellington…..double standards much.

https://twitter.com/GraemeEdgeler/status/893263303278907393
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August 4, 2017 1:42pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Let’s play squirrel with Bullion:
  
  The two Government ministers at the centre of the Wellington housing allowances scandal have stood down until official inquiries are completed.
  
  The Governor-General officially removed the two MPs from their portfolios at 8.30 this morning.
  
  Marian Hobbs and Phillida Bunkle will step aside until inquiries are finished into their accommodation allowances and electoral enrolments.
  
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  August 4, 2017 1:55pm
- Jack5
  
  Bill English was both a Cabinet Minister and MP for the biggest electorate in the country, and perhaps the one most distant from Wellington.
  
  What has the fact that English changed his vote from the Clutha-southland electorate got to do with the lying Turei enrolling at a false address where she didn’t live so she could vote for a friend?
  
  Turei should be kicked out of Parliament.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11898661
  
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  August 4, 2017 2:00pm
  - RalphT
    
    Jack, a wee correction. Te Tai Tonga is the biggest electorate – all the South Island and Wellington and the Hutt Valley. Clutha-Southland is the biggest “European”/non-Maori electorate. But I agree with the rest of your comment.
    
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    August 4, 2017 2:13pm
    - MCos
      
      We don’t have apartheid in NZ.
      It’s not a European or non-Maori electorate. Qualified voter must register for that electorate as long as they live there & are not registered for the appropriate Maori electrate.
      
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      August 4, 2017 5:34pm
  - Bullion
    
    Did the 2009 accommodation supplement case prove that he was resident in Wellington? That means he was registered in 2011 in an electorate he didn’t live in – like Turei. And correctly registered in 2014 for Wellington central.
    
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    August 4, 2017 3:06pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Bullion:
      
      You may be interested in this excellent 2009 blog post by DPF: How some NZ MPs benefit from parliamentary expenses. I imagine some of the issues identified by DPF have been addressed since then.
      
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      August 4, 2017 3:15pm
      - Gabby
        
        He may be interested in where Ponyboy was living vs what address he gave, when he first stood for parliament.
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:15pm
- GoVege
  
  It’s different when the right do it….
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:43pm
Fisiani

Let’s do this. Let’s try to polish a turd. It’s still a turd.
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August 4, 2017 1:56pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Maybe a better quality of turd polish is needed.
  Take your pick: https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=turd+polish&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjx993AvrzVAhXCKJQKHZxxAgAQ_AUICigB&biw=1745&bih=885
  
  I heard that the KIWI-brand product is quite good.
  
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  August 4, 2017 2:04pm
EAD_TWO

Hopefully Kiwiblogs free speech warriors will be onto this one:

Video-sharing website YouTube seems to be systematically purging conservatives and others who challenge politically correct orthodoxy from its platform.

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/youtube-working-adl-shut-free-speech/

Or as it is the ADL – an organisation whose sole purpose is to censor opinions which Jewish people dislike, will they sit in silence in their comfortably numb lives?

“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise” ~ Voltaire
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August 4, 2017 3:10pm
- Shawn Herles
  
  “Or as it is the ADL – an organisation whose sole purpose is to censor opinions which Jewish people dislike”
  
  No, it’s purpose is to censor opinions which SOME Jewish LIBERALS dislike.
  
  Not all US Jews support it, and one of the best expose’s of the ADL I have seen was by a Jew who went undercover to expose the biased and selective way the ADL works.
  
  And here is one of many critiques of the ADL by David Horowitz. In case your confused, it’s by (((David Horowitz))).
  
  http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/252012/adl-rushes-defend-campus-anti-semites-sara-dogan
  
  And the ADL is certainly not friendly towards Israeli nationalists.
  
  https://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/2016/09/the-adl-takes-sides-against-benjamin-netanyahu/
  
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  August 4, 2017 3:36pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Interesting debating angle your taking Shawn Herles – the old look at this example tactic which because a small minority hold an opinion, it justifies the destructive behaviours of others.
    
    It’s the ol Stephieboy tactic of “we have an issue with Islamic terror but not all Muslims are terrorists”.
    
    Just because 3 of the 21 leading Bolsheviks weren’t Jewish, doesn’t deflect from the fact the main protagonists were Jewish.
    
    You’re the sort of guy who argues that because 3% of French Jews voted for Le Pen, Jews aren’t hypocrites for kvetching about so called anti semitism then voting overwhelmingly for candidate who wants to bring in huge numbers of Muslims into France.
    
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/french-israelis-vote-overwhelmingly-for-macron/
    
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    August 4, 2017 7:36pm
SGA

Breaking news: Jacinda Ardern reveals Labour’s election slogan is ‘Let’s do this’. That’s an interesting idea – borrowing from Miley Cyrus’ song of the same name:

I was reminded of the Nike slagon “Just do it” 🙂
I must confess that I can’t tell you what Labour’s old slogan was (nor any of the other parties).
Given the circumstances and Labour’s “pitch” with Ardern, it’s not bad, to be fair.
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August 4, 2017 3:13pm
- Nostradamus
  
  SGA:
  
  Given the circumstances and Labour’s “pitch” with Ardern, it’s not bad, to be fair.
  
  Over at The Standard, they’re promoting something that may be of interest to you: ‘Ardern Up! The T-shirt that every fashionable leftie will be wearing. I can see parallels with the attempt to make Kevin Rudd look “cool” in the 2007 Australian federal election – when he defeated John Howard.
  
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  August 4, 2017 3:23pm
  - SGA
    
    Over at The Standard, they’re promoting something that may be of interest to you: ‘Ardern Up!
    
    lol – oh dear, maybe they felt like they needed a second slogan to appease the ardent union faction 🙂
    Add: Perhaps they’ll try an ad with music based on an Eminem song to look even cooler (sorry, couldn’t resist)
    
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    August 4, 2017 3:25pm
    - MH
      
      let’s toothless-a bonnie and Clyde moment ? It’s been and dunne before.
      
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      August 4, 2017 3:31pm
- howitis
  
  This immediately reminds me of the Rob Schneider ‘you can do it’ quotes in movies
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ2HcRl4wSk
  
  It is too close to the Obama slogan of 2008
  ‘Yes We can’
  
  ….and we know he could not.
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:14pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  Obamaesque apparently 😉
  
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  August 4, 2017 8:39pm
KevinH

Ardern did well, she handled the questions from journalists with ease, didn’t look flustered or over awed and kept that smile on the dial with splashes of humour thrown in.
She has got off to a good start and providing she and her team can keep the momentum going, may lay down a genuine challenge to the Nats.
Noticeable was the laid back presentation of “Let’s do it”. Calvin had ditched the tie and specs, he should of brought his guitar, both him and Jacinda could of done a nifty rap, it wouldn’t of gone amiss.
Seriously the launch was up tempo and in complete contrast to Little who was embattled and looking tired and beaten.
Labour have done well reinventing themselves, race on.
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August 4, 2017 3:28pm
- SGA
  
  Yes, it’s suddenly become interesting, hasn’t it. A week is a long time in politics, as they say.
  
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  August 4, 2017 3:36pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Too bad they stuffed up by going soft-cock on Turei.
  
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  August 4, 2017 4:15pm
  - MCos
    
    They’ve obviously told her she’s messed up because she won’t be considered for a cabinet position in the unlikely event Labour forms a government.
    Beyond that Turei is a member of a different party & Labour have plenty of other things to worry abour related to their own campaign.
    
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    August 4, 2017 5:22pm
  - Gabby
    
    Unlike Bingles who was rrrr fierce.
    
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    August 4, 2017 5:55pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Bingles, too scared to share parliament with Ardern, was ‘on the road’ according to conehead. He was spotted outside Glenys Dickson’s place in the early hours of this morning with a guitar.
      
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      August 4, 2017 8:13pm
      - Gabby
        
        and a phone.
        
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        August 4, 2017 8:25pm
- realityczech
  
  “Labour have done well reinventing themselves, race on.”
  
  Nothing has changed. It is the same tired and angry party as before, after yet another internal meltdown.
  
  The few votes bled out of the Greens will soon melt away when the honeymoon ends.
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:01pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Labour hasn’t worked out it’s tax policy yet. What the fuck have they been doing for the last 3 years while drawing their huge tax funded salaries? Do they realise voting starts in 5 weeks? Not even remotely ready to govern.

http://www.interest.co.nz/business/89153/all-good-time-ardern-says-%C2%A0tax-policy-she-sets-out-campaign-focus-housing-health#comments
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August 4, 2017 4:01pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  The tax policy is simple:
  1. Screw the ‘rich pricks’.
  2. Repeat ‘1.’
  
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  August 4, 2017 4:18pm
- Gabby
  
  Who’s the nats candidate for Clutha Southland? The Ghost Who Walks?
  Do they realise voting starts in 5 weeks?
  
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  August 4, 2017 5:58pm
  - realityczech
    
    Gabby, you should be more concerned about who the co leader will be for the entire Green Party. Not who will win the popular vote for National in Clutha.
    
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    August 4, 2017 6:20pm
    - Gabby
      
      Poor form not to stick a name on the form czitty. They might be waiting til after the election in case some lister didn’t make it.
      
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      August 4, 2017 7:20pm
nasska

“Let’s do it” rang some bells & a Google search proves that Labour are back to recycling the worn out & clichéd. It’s part of the lyrics to an old Ella Fitzgerald song.

Birds do it, bees do it
Even educated fleas do it
Let’s do it, let’s fall in love

At least the line about educated fleas resonates. 🙂
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August 4, 2017 4:24pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  Any chance you can help out this bewildered chap:
  
  How much lies and untruths are people going to take?
  
  Seriously these attacks on Metiria are proof positive that national and it’s hard right support base, abuse and use Christianity to get votes. They do not subscribe to any Christian ethics, forgiveness and love have been thrown out, by them and their supporters. Instead it’s revenge and hate.
  
  There is no love of the poor, no attempt to uplift people. It’s all hate, hate, hate. Christ ask us to forgive our enemies, so today I will I forgive national party supporters and their lackeys for the hate in their hearts and their lack of morals.
  
  “Adam” is on to us: we “abuse and use Christianity to get votes”. We need to come up with a new plan. Any ideas?
  
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  August 4, 2017 4:58pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Set Adam and JasonJohns up on a blind date? Will make the political/theological exchanges that Shawn Herles and I have look like a lovefest! 😉
    
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    August 4, 2017 5:01pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Kimbo:
      
      That’s an excellent suggestion.
      
      JasonJohns has a tried-and-tested formula: start off with an innocent comment (which will help to break the ice with Adam) and then ramp up slowly. Eventually Adam will run down the road faster than the guy who needed to get away from Darren in a hurry!
      
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      August 4, 2017 5:04pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”They do not subscribe to any Christian ethics, forgiveness and love have been thrown out, by them and their supporters. Instead it’s revenge and hate. “….
    
    I think he’s confused National for the NZ Conservatives Nostra. Mind you I tend to cut him a bit of slack……political allegiances aside he’s perfectly described your average Godwhack.
    
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    August 4, 2017 5:12pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      I thought the NZ Conservatives have been strangely quiet of late, but have just checked, and they’ve put out a press release: Game On in Epsom!!
      
      The Conservative Party Leader, Leighton Baker, is challenging for the candidate vote in Epsom.
      
      His “local” credentials:
      
      Leighton did his secondary school education at Saint Kentigern College, got married at the Chapel there, and now has 4 children and 4 grandchildren. He has been in business for 27 years.
      
      I think I’ve bought fish and chips in some undesirable places over the years. Perhaps, if I ever become insane enough to stand for Parliament, I have lots of options!
      
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      August 4, 2017 5:18pm
      - nasska
        
        He’s stood for the Conservatives before Nostra. Last time if I recall correctly was Christchurch East.
        
        His credentials are impeccable……he’s totally deluded!
        
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        August 4, 2017 5:32pm
cha

Pretend terror expert and serial bullshitter gets the arse.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-adviser-sebastian-gorka-to-leave-1493650018-htmlstory.html
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August 4, 2017 4:48pm
- Shawn Herles
  
  “Pretend terror expert and serial bullshitter”
  
  How would you know? Are you an expert on counter-terrorism?
  
  From the LA/Democratic Party Times article:
  
  “A senior administration official…..The official spoke anonymously”
  
  Riiiight….. the Liberal media loves it’s fake “anonymous source” tactic. But it keeps blowing up in their lying faces. Ask CNN. 🙂
  
  And yup, it’s fake news.
  
  “Gorka: Reports about leaving White House ‘very fake news'”
  
  http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/332029-gorka-reports-about-leaving-white-house-very-fake-news
  
  Here’s a tip. If it comes from the New York Times, the Washington Post, the LA Times, or CNN, and it’s based on an “anonymous source”, there is a 99% chance it’s bullshit.
  
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  August 4, 2017 5:17pm
  - Gabby
    
    and will probably happen within a week.
    
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    August 4, 2017 9:01pm
Surely Knott

Jacinda is launching her new campaign let’s do this. And the signs behind her are blue background, picture of her, and Let’s do this & Vote Labour in red ribbons. Is this an example of the new billboards? Are they trying to use the old phil goff trick of using Nats blue to align themselves with a brand that has more experience, financial and intellectual gravitas .
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August 4, 2017 4:52pm
realityczech

“You keep going down the track of attacking her looks.”

I see the beta male creeps lining up to defend Arden, as if they are going to get a mercy root for their pitiful efforts.

Sorry boys but if she wants a smarmy wimp she will summon Gayford .
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August 4, 2017 5:18pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Realityczech:
  
  she will summon Gayford
  
  And then what happens?
  
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  August 4, 2017 5:25pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”And then what happens?”…..
    
    If he has any brains he’ll decide it’s a nice day & go fishing instead.
    
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    August 4, 2017 5:36pm
  - realityczech
    
    She will look at him with utter contempt… and you really don’t want to know the rest. It is why infidelity is so common with her sort.
    
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    August 4, 2017 5:39pm
- Gabby
  
  But you’re right here czitty.
  
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  August 4, 2017 5:36pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Lol. Like you could ever get near a woman with your ankle monitor on.
  
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  August 4, 2017 8:18pm
Manolo

NZ is doomed if it falls in the hands of vacuous Ardern and the corrupt Turei. There will little hope for the nation.
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August 4, 2017 5:40pm
- realityczech
  
  I don’t think sentenced prisoners are even allowed to vote let alone run the country 🙂
  
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  August 4, 2017 5:53pm
realityczech

I see the fake news media are going all out to promote the mule toothed communist, even turning on the Greens to try and bolster her up.

This is fun to watch. What will be even more fun will be watching Labour meltdown again after the approaching loss to National.

The left has never been weaker. Expect Winston & Bill to be running the country soon.
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August 4, 2017 5:48pm
- nasska
  
  …..” Expect Winston & Bill to be running the country soon.”…..
  
  What a choice…..a rabid Catholic & a drunk versus an airhead & a thief. It’s tough being a political tragic in this country.
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:04pm
  - realityczech
    
    Even before the extent of Turei’s offending was known, NZF was polling equal with the Greens.
    
    National & NZF will be a great combination. Winnie will call them out on their polished bullshit and generally be off message, but it will be a stable govt.
    
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/07/newshub-poll-winston-peters-cements-position-as-kingmaker.html
    
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    August 4, 2017 6:11pm
- MCos
  
  “Expect Winston & Bill to be running the country soon.”
  Winston running the country.
  Those tax cuts will need to be cancelled to pay for all his non negotiable referendums.
  
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  August 4, 2017 6:14pm
  - Shawn Herles
    
    “Expect Winston & Bill to be running the country soon.”
    
    I do. A strong Christian and a strong nationalist. What’s not to like?
    
    Make New Zealand Great Again! 🙂
    
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    August 4, 2017 6:18pm
    - realityczech
      
      Like Hitler a Catholic/Nationalist ?
      
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      August 4, 2017 6:24pm
  - Kimbo
    
    @ Shawn Herles
    
    “Expect Winston & Bill to be running the country soon.”
    
    A strong Christian and a strong nationalist. What’s not to like?
    
    You once wrote Martin Luther didn’t know what he was talking about when he wrote “better to be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian prince” as he didn’t live with the “Muslim threat on his door”. As the Turks did indeed have hostile armies on the borders of the Holy Roman Empire at the time Luther appeared before the Emperor Charles V at the Diet of Worms in 1521, I’d suggest your historical knowledge is as flawed as your political analysis. By any reasonable measure Bill English is competent in government…and Peters is not.
    
    Nonetheless, I will at least give you credit that you have picked the likely outcome of the election.
    
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    August 4, 2017 6:49pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      The only thing whinny will be running is running out of whisky.
      
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      August 4, 2017 7:33pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Gruffydd:
        
        The only thing whinny will be running is ~~running out of whisky~~ a bar tab paid for by ~~Owen Glenn~~ ~~a NZ First supporter~~ ~~a Winston Peters admirer~~ Chuck Bird!
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:46pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Kimbo:
      
      you have picked the likely outcome of the election
      
      Are there places for Shawn and Chuck in your pub quiz team? If not, you’d better create some places for them, otherwise your team might fare poorly when faced with questions about NZ First and Pike River rescue missions!
      
      (I’m trying to be even-handed here by the way. If Deadrightkev were still here, I’d say you need him for those tricky questions about Colin Craig and the NZ Conservatives!)
      
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      August 4, 2017 7:39pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Nostra the government are happy to whitewash the Pike River tragedy just like they did after the Cave Creek tragedy. What a sick country run by jellyfish.
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:50pm
      - stigie
        
        “I’d say you need him for those tricky questions about Colin Craig and the NZ Conservatives!)”
        
        Dunno about that Nostra, i reckon Nasska is more qualified on those tricky questions, he answered Reddy with gay abandon all those years of him trying desperately to put one over the poor sod..?
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:54pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Dad4justice:
        
        Like you, I don’t have inside knowledge, so I can only judge the situation by what’s in the public domain. Let’s say a rescue team goes in tomorrow. What are we expecting them to see? Will they be able to detect dusty human remains among mine dirt and other residue?
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:55pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Conspiwacy!!
        
        It’s all a bwig conspiwacy!!
        
        Evil Jewlyfish
        
        Bad Jwlyfish
        
        *clint*
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:58pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Nostra if they went into the mine tomorrow they would find skeletons of the miners who tried to get out escape hatches that were locked. It’s just another cover up and cop out in a corrupt country. Why do you think the government will not allow the recovery mission? It’s not rocket science in the land of the long white lie.
        
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        August 4, 2017 7:59pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        The reason they will not allow the missions is the mine has exploded twice .
        It is a death trap the gas is still there and the structure would have been dangerously compromised.
        
        Why kill more people over moldy old bones?
        Ya want some bones there are plenty at your local cemetery to dig up and wank over.
        Dead people are not worth spending millions or risking life’s on
        They have fuck all use for anything .
        Stick a memorial at the entrance that’s all a miner should expect.
        
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        August 4, 2017 8:09pm
      - dad4justice
        
        Griff obviously you believe the government propaganda on the issue. The truth is a long way off what you have written. Time will tell.
        
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        August 4, 2017 8:13pm
      - nasska
        
        There’s no future in risking the living to save the dead Dad.
        
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        August 4, 2017 8:15pm
      - Happychappy
        
        Nostra : Have they got Public toilets down there so Chuck can show Winston around.
        
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        August 4, 2017 8:33pm
    - SGA
      
      @Kimbo
      
      You once wrote Martin Luther didn’t know what he was talking about when he wrote “better to be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian prince”
      
      I like this quote of yours, and I was going to borrow it the other day (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery), so I looked it up to get the wording right. It’s disputed whether Martin Luther every said it all.
      “The earliest published source for such a statement yet located is in Pat Robertson — Where He Stands (1988) by Hubert Morken, p. 42, where such a comment is attributed to Luther without citation.” https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Luther
      Just FYI.
      
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      August 4, 2017 8:19pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Fascinating. After Muhammad, Luther is the historical figure who seems to have the most “table-talk” attributed to him. I knew Luther’s supposed response at the Diet of Worms to the demand by Charles V that he recant, which is the catch cry of the Reformation:
        
        I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other, so help me God.
        
        …was disputed, but that one too! 😉
        
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        August 4, 2017 9:52pm
tf78

With MeToo thinking she is invincible and on a mission to cure poverty I think it only right that she run as an independent and call it the DEPENDENCY PARTY – similar to the OPPORTUNIST PARTY – she will be a shoo in and be our next prime minister.
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August 4, 2017 7:47pm
- Nostradamus
  
  tf78:
  
  MeToo
  
  Yesterday RRM came up with this hashtag: #DespicableMeTu. Is it trending on Twitter?
  
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  August 4, 2017 7:51pm
nasska

Whatever the trolls from the Left may say you can bet the farm on one thing.

Every time Metiria gets invited to a boil up the hosts will stocktake the cutlery before she arrives & after she leaves.
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August 4, 2017 8:05pm
- stigie
  
  Crikey, i did notice her bottom tonight on tv, it was about 2 axe handles. Mind you, it was only a quick glance !~
  
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  August 4, 2017 8:09pm
- itstricky
  
  Keeping Stock! Repremand this man immediately!
  
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  August 4, 2017 8:15pm
  - nasska
    
    Settle down itstricky…..stigie was thinking of quite small axe handles. 🙂
    
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    August 4, 2017 8:18pm
- Piniwi
  
  It’s called koha isn’t it?
  
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  August 4, 2017 9:29pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Why does Metiria think that poor folks and benes want to be represented by a fraud and liar?
She can Butt out.
We don’t need her sick values mucking up our welfare system.
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August 4, 2017 8:16pm
Viking2

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/95438906/a-transplant-in-a-heartbeat-the-heart-surgery-that-has-you-out-of-bed-a-day-later

Life changing for many.
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August 4, 2017 8:18pm
Awww C-mon

Tide is turning on the green Facebook page, even the standard is softening.

48 hrs from now when the rest comes out it will be good night nurse

#threemoreyears
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August 4, 2017 8:25pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Awww C-mon:
  
  #threemoreyears
  
  Please break this news to Hugh gently. He seems convinced that his relentless daily efforts on Kiwiblog will lead to a change of government next month!
  
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  August 4, 2017 8:27pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Hugh has solved the housing crisis though Nostra
    
    By causing the rabid capitalists on KB to waste time scrolling through and downticking his shite he has caused a significant reduction in property speculation.
    
    You see the average time for ‘login’ to Trademe property for speculators was 9:51, when Hugh posts, this stretched to 11:01 due to Hugh.
    
    11:01 just so happens to be prime time at the local cafe scene to see the hot young mums leave and get your coffee order in, the coffee comes quickly and the mums look best from behind and with their morning bitch session completed.
    
    This of course meant 11:01 ‘login’ was unsustainable,
    
    11:51 was too close to lunch
    
    1:05 too close to Chardonnay o clock
    
    2:09 led to too many rushed calls before the kids come home
    
    4:37 dear god who works after 4:00!!!
    
    Hence
    
    Hugh saved the world!!!!
    
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    August 4, 2017 8:52pm
tvb

She says she is fit to be leader of the Grerns but not fit to be a Minister. That is not sustainable. I think she has to go and the Greens will have to act and remove her.
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August 4, 2017 8:29pm
- stigie
  
  “and the Greens will have to act and remove her”.
  
  Those axe handles i mentioned further up could come in handy !~
  
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  August 4, 2017 9:03pm
  - sooty
    
    You would need a big crowbar to get her arse out of the trough!
    
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    August 4, 2017 9:57pm
nasska

There are no lawyer jokes…..they are all true stories.
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August 4, 2017 9:23pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Look at New Zealand blocking DPRK academics from visiting an Auckland conference.

New Zealand may soon not be “Nuclear Free” after all. 😆
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