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August 28, 2017 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 28 August 2017

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Captain Mainwaring

Bill English’s daughter Maria can sing the National Anthem better than Lizzie the Marvellous one.
PLUS: She’s not a bitter and twisted lefty.

TWO TICKS BLUE !!!
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August 28, 2017 8:01am
- Viking2
  
  Yep, did a great job and doesn’t expect us to kowtow to her and her race.
  
  How Kiwi’s should be. Upstanding, outstanding and proud of their achievements.
  
  Great example of family.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:07am
  - Nostalgia-NZ
    
    Missed it, sounds pretty good.
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:38am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Google it
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:06am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:19am
  - Gabby
    
    Tulixpu
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:25am
    - GazzaW
      
      You’re a prime example of why schools need to teach a second language Gobby. Suggest you enrol and learn basic English.
      
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      August 28, 2017 7:10pm
- Paulus
  
  In the NZME country bumkin paper we receive there is no mention of the National Party launch whatsoever.
  Nice one !
  Only about Maori and their water.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:34am
  - oldgolfer
    
    I hope you don’t pay for the bloody thing.
    If you do, stop.
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:37am
    - Paulus
      
      My wife insists that we get the useless paper so she can do the many crosswords daily.
      And I have been married for 54 years —-so!
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:03am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Happy wife, happy life.
        Well done Paulus ?
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:16am
      - sooty
        
        With the price of a newspaper subscription, I think it would be cheaper to purchase crossword puzzle books.
        
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        August 28, 2017 2:55pm
- mikenmild
  
  Nepotism. Taking the job away from a hard-working professional…
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:28am
- Gabby
  
  TULIXPU !!!! !!!! !!!! !!!! !!
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:40am
  - Fletch
    
    Um, what does this even mean? Been seeing you make the same silly statement for weeks now…
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:59am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It means two ticks blue
      
      Isn’t it fab that KB caters for variant spellers?
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:06am
      - mikenmild
        
        And for retards like Fletch.
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:10am
      - Fletch
        
        But it doesn’t, I am sure. He or she gets downticks everytime they say it, which leads me to believe they are making fun of “two ticks blue”.
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:50pm
    - Gabby
      
      I believe it is an exhortation to the Faithful to expend their democratic juices, both elecoral and partywise, for the benefit of the National Party, Flesh. Because the Faithful are evidently feebleminded and amnesiac in the opinion of the Arch Exhortors it needs to be repeated ad fucking nauseam.
      
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      August 28, 2017 12:45pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Good heavens – Gobby is almost coherent. He must have started school by now.
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:30pm
      - mikenmild
        
        At least he is learning. What’s your excuse?
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:43pm
    - Lance
      
      It is the sad reality of what someone writes when they are brain damaged.
      It deserves our pity
      
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      August 28, 2017 1:50pm
starboard

***Whoop Whoop***

“Winstons in the shit..Winstons in the shit”

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96206826/winston-peters-wont-reveal-how-much-he-had-to-pay-back-in-pension-overpayments
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August 28, 2017 8:04am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Timing will be everything.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:07am
- doggone7
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  If he came into the swill that is this place you would say he’d really be in the shit.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:08am
  - Lance
    
    Note to doggone7…..
    
    This may come as a shock…..
    
    But Winston Peters is not the Messiah
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:57am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Dead right; ‘e’s not the Messiah, ‘e’s a naughty boy…
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:29am
    - doggone7
      
      I know that, the Messiah retired in December last year.
      
      Peters is just an MP. The MP for Northland where they got rid National in a by-election. That was a far worse crime than anything to do with MSD.
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:38am
  - GazzaW
    
    No need to hang around doggone. They say The Standard is very nice at this time of the year. Not much humour there though and way less tolerant of trolls.
    
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    August 28, 2017 7:15pm
- peterwn
  
  As I explained in a comment to the 7am posting ‘MSD Must Explain’, there is nothing in this – the only ‘crime’ I can see here is Winston did not meticulously check his bank statements and find that MSD had failed to action his annual returns concerning his circumstances.
  The more serious matter of concern is how the matter hit the ‘public domain’ in breach of normal privacy expectations.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:16am
  - KevOB
    
    Are annual returns required from all National Superannuitants? That seems admin overkill.
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:20am
    - cmm
      
      There’s surely no more admin than is required to renew a rego or do a WOF, and this is $30k per year, not $200 per year.
      
      But it’s just taxpayer funds so who cares!
      
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      August 28, 2017 8:46am
      - KevOB
        
        Ever tried dealing with the elderly?
        As a former IRD staffer who very frequently did, I once believed that anyone on Super should be wholly exempted from Income Tax.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:00pm
    - starboard
      
      You have to sign a declaration annually to confirm your living circumstances. MSD post it out.
      
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      August 28, 2017 8:53am
      - peterwn
        
        Unless you are on the lowest of the three super rates. Interestingly there is no annual declaration needed re overseas travel but data matching isolates such cases.
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:00am
    - Paulus
      
      Yes (and no).
      As an earner or with other income other than that taxed at source – say Bank deposits only then yes. With only super then no as super is taxed at source and the IRD are fully aware.
      If you ask for an IR3? then it shows all of this clearly.
      Winston I am sure as an employee of the public would almost certainly have to file a tax return.
      If no why not –
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:06am
      - peterwn
        
        There is generally no need to file a IR3 if your only income is subject to PAYE. If you have investment income you need to file a IR3 and IRD can also request that you file one. Winston (or his tax agent) would almost certainly do a IR3 as he would probably be eligible for refunds and anyway would probably have investment income.
        Someone on NZ Super can elect whether to have it taxed at ‘primary’ or ‘secondary’ rates. Winston probably elects to have it taxed at a ‘secondary’ rate as his Parliamentary income would be significantly greater than his super.
        
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        August 28, 2017 2:44pm
    - VicParking
      
      Only if you have additional income from another source than the government. So they can get your tax right.
      
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      August 28, 2017 1:35pm
    - Piniwi
      
      The answer is yes. It is basically just proof of life and an update of any changes in circumstance. Simple form and for most no changes then sighted and signed by a notary public. About birthday time.
      
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      August 28, 2017 4:41pm
  - Inandout
    
    NZ has its own ‘deep state’ among public servants, but the motive seems a bit blurry. Does the leaker think Winston’s votes will go to Labour or National?
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:21am
    - kowtow
      
      Deep state , yep “Gone by lunch time” was such a wrecking leaker.
      The motive there was very clear.
      
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      August 28, 2017 8:49am
  - Lance
    
    And do you think dear Winston would just let it go if it was one of his political opposition?
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:58am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Winston said the breach was from IRD.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:06am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      He would, wouldn’t he?
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:17am
    - Gabby
      
      Who’s the minister? It’s not Pullya is it.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:13am
      - GoVege
        
        When’s Pullya gonna elaborate on whether she ripped off the benny. …”knowingly” or not.
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:18pm
      - Gabby
        
        Her lawyers will get back to you on that.
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:39pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I disagree peterwn. The pivotal issue is what Peters declared on his initial application for National Super.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:30am
    - peterwn
      
      I commented before DPF added his update. When applying for super misrepresenting living circumstances on the initial application form or the annual follow-ups is a serious matter. It is doubtful he misunderstood things since he has well above average intelligence and would be knowledgeable on the superannuation regime. I am very surprised if he did try and pull a fast one since he he goes around claiming he has integrity (the little old ladies he speaks to love him for this) and he would not need the money. However perhaps like another poster here and his dud passport application he thought he would not be caught.
      
      There is another difference here. Meteria ‘fessed up first (unless someone was about to blow the whistle) but Winston (like the passport guy) were caught by data matching.
      
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      August 28, 2017 10:11am
    - Paulus
      
      But is was not discovered until his partner Ms Trotman applied for her super and the addressees cross checked.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:10am
- KevOB
  
  Nor should he.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:19am
- Paulus
  
  Presumably Winston will add the $18,000 he received to the $148,000 he stole from Taxpayers.
  He says he sent this to Starship – but they returned it as inappropriate.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:23am
- cmm
  
  Hey Winnie, while we’re on the subject…
  
  $158,000
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:43am
- krazykiwi
  
  Winston’s Hoardings: “Had Enough?”
  
  NZ Voters: “Yes! Why did you rip us off just now, and when will your party pay back the $158,000 misappropriated more than a decade ago?”
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:09am
  - Gabby
    
    jizzy mitts thought it was ‘Hard Enough?’ and his pants got quite excited.
    
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    August 28, 2017 12:39pm
Longknives

Last night I was interested to read someone gushing on Facebook how wonderful it will be to have Jacinda the ‘Feminist’ in Power after a ‘Bunch of White Men from National have ruined this Country’.

At the last Election a ‘Hip Hop’ Group named Homebrew wrote a revolting song about killing John Key and Raping his Daughter.
Adern ‘The Feminist’ was literally crowing with delight over this- She tweeted her support for Homebrew and said they were one of her ‘Favorite bands’..
When is someone from the gushing New Zealand Media going to ask their beloved ‘People’s Princess’ about this?
Does she condone Sexual Violence? Is Rape okay if it is the daughter of a Political Opponent?
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August 28, 2017 8:06am
- alex Masterley
  
  That’s a question i have been asking for some time.
  Hopefully it will get asked tomorrow.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:12am
- KKKKatee
  
  Yes obviously it was. The silence was deafening on this and I didn’t hear the feminazis from Labour or the Green side showing their disgust at the suggestion of rape of JK’s daughter. And now Jacinda Ardern has very stupidly come and out and said Homebrew was one of of her favourite bands. Not thinking very clearly, Jacinda.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:39am
- kowtow
  
  Lipstick on a pig seems to be a huge problem , but rape isn’t. Different when the left do it.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:51am
  - mikenmild
    
    You think Ardern has somehow condoned rape?
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:30am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      She’s been effusive in her praise of a band which had a song declaring:
      
      That’s why I’m going to kill the Prime Minister. I’m going to kill the Prime Minister, because we are down and suffering and the motherfucker ain’t doing nothing. Going to kill the Prime Minister.
      
      and:
      
      One of these days I’m going to fuck your daughter. This poor boy going to make his seed, going to wake up in your girl – well hello Miss Key.
      
      OK; she may not have “condoned rape” in the strictest sense but her silence on this particular song is relevant, given that she herself could be Prime Minister in a month or so. If I were in her shoes, I’d be a little more careful in my taste in music.
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:40am
      - mikenmild
        
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        You silly old fusspot.
        Perhaps all politicians should provide a list of all the books, films and music they like so that you can vet all of those artists’ work for anything that could offend you?
        Liking a band’s music is now a thought crime?
        What a fucking snowflake.
        
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        August 28, 2017 9:44am
      - EAD_TWO
        
        Gulp…..
        
        I think I’m actually with Milkmaid on this one….
        
        So what?
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:21am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      No I don’t but she is closer to defending rape than Trump was to defending white supremacists. As kowtow said, there’s a different standard when the left do it.
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:44am
      - sam green
        
        Only because you don’t like her.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:34pm
  - Paulus
    
    Different Pig though !
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:11am
Southern Raider

Anyone understand what this Stuff focus on “The Valley” is?

They seem to have now released a simulator video game of it which highlights the NZ solider’s names
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August 28, 2017 8:06am
- Longknives
  
  They are desperately trying to drag up the ‘Evil NZ Soldiers killed Babies’ bullshit that Nicky Hager flopped with earlier in the year.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flogging_a_dead_horse
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:10am
- mandk
  
  Is anyone actually reading the Stuff stuff?
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:16am
  - oldgolfer
    
    No.
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:40am
  - Southern Raider
    
    I’ve been ignoring it, but they keep on promoting it as the top story for a whole week now
    
    I haven’t bothered reading any of them as I knew they would be anti defence force. What perked my interest was the promotion they are doing for the simulator and the comments it is getting about “I’m ashamed to be a kiwi”, “I’m disgusted that we killed babies”, “we have no rights to complain if they come to NZ and kill our babies in revenge”
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:02am
    - tf78
      
      I try very hard not to succumb to clickbait.
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:42am
  - VicParking
    
    Whats Stuff
    
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    August 28, 2017 1:39pm
- Peter
  
  Can’t even give it away, it appears.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:21am
- KevOB
  
  Subversive left. Note the sponsorship by the Aussie news group. It smells of Hagar.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:23am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Please, I’ve only just had my breakfast.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:25am
- Huevon
  
  Lefties hate our military. That’s all you need to know to understand what is going on.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:28am
Viking2

So the housing thing is grinding to a slow.

Building boom winding down in Tauranga
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11908271

Been predicting this. Don’t need all these houses.

A couple of good reads about our housing problem.

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/89530/statistics-nz-analyses-data-our-national-housing-markets-see-how-much-new-housing
Is there currently a house ‘building boom’?

In the year ended June 2017, 30,453 new homes were consented across New Zealand. This is near levels last seen in early 2005, but is still well below the all-time peak of over 40,000 homes per year seen in early 1974.

https://medium.com/land-buildings-identity-and-values/aucklands-housing-boom-is-an-emperor-with-new-clothes-d3bed9a8fdcd

Auckland’s Housing Boom is an Emperor with New Clothes
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August 28, 2017 8:10am
- KevOB
  
  Changed your name Hugh?
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:25am
- Southern Raider
  
  I think the provinces will peak. Auckland though still has some huge projects that are only at ground works level.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:04am
Nigel Kearney

Hey Bill, we’re not an ATM for the National party either.
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August 28, 2017 8:13am
oldpark

Anecdotal evidence in theelection campaign by the joined at the hip Lie/bour/Green party has the person known as Helen Clark,who John Key out pointed and out classed in the 2008 General Election. Clark who also could not cut the mustard for UN top dog,is behind Angry Andy Little’s replacement. In fact the rumours,are Clark who was behind the dumping of the Privy Council,plus the 2005 pledge card scam ,,when Lie-bour stole $800,000 is really pulling Angry Andy’s replacement strings,and is Lie-bour/Green Party joined at the hip defacto Leader.
Her and the other pest Cullen ,set NZ back many years when they reigned for nine years mostly setting policy on the hoof not imagined or voted for by NZ voters ,and now with her fingerprints all over the sign here and we will look after you, after the election scam, Clark and company have learnt to be even more devious with her stint in the corrupt UN.
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August 28, 2017 8:22am
- Dave Mann
  
  Downticked for your vicious attack on the English language. Your spelling is faultless (spell checker at work?)… but your sustained assaults on grammar and punctuation left me reeling.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:42am
  - softail 1450
    
    sorry teacher I guess we can’t all reach your lofty level of perfection with the written word ,fricking ponce .
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:41am
- Gabby
  
  Surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:48am
- holysheet
  
  A tip oldpark. Switch your browser to Firefox. Then add on a little app called Grammarly. It gives you automatic corrections to your typing. Checks your spelling and grammar. Never make another mistake again and it’s all free.
  Anything to shut the ex-school teachers and Kimbo up.
  *holysheet-school-of-wilful-and-capricious-spelling is no more.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:13am
  - Kimbo
    
    Switch your browser to Firefox….Anything to shut the ex-school teachers and Kimbo up.
    
    Are you going soft cock on us? Switching browser?! I seem to recall the Pinochet-option endorsing assassination is your preferred choice. Just can’t get a good and consistent brand of fascist these days. Do you knit doilies in your spare time?
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:23am
    - holysheet
      
      Anytime you want me to take you out, just mention the time and place. I am a dab hand with soft cocks like you. I would not even out source it. Keep it in-house so to speak.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:42am
      - Kimbo
        
        Nah, now you’re just talking tough and over-compensating, Mr “Switch your browser to Firefox”. Scaaaaaary. That’ll show ’em. 😉
        
        Just don’t injure your self with a case of OOS with that computer mouse…
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:44am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        It’s Ok Holysheet, I think mm has stolen Kimbo’s login
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:03pm
      - Gabby
        
        a dab hand with soft cocks
        
        I just blimmin well bet you are wholly shit, I bet you are. I’ll check my piggybank & get back to you.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:35pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Better be careful when warned by the internet tough guy.
        I happen to know that he’s one hardened keyboard warrior. Fully qualified member of the 101st Chairborne division.
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:47pm
Kabull

I’m a little bemused to hear the screams from academics(!) and teachers about the ‘lack of detail’ as to how National’s language in primary schools policy will be implemented. Kaye’s explanation last night seemed reasonable – it has yet to be worked through as it is a future intention; funding wont be available until after Budget 18.
Yet these people are quite content to readily accept the Princess’s demand that we trust her because the detail of almost every policy so far announced will be worked out by ‘an expert committee’ once ‘we are in government’.
(Of course, any ‘expert group’ will be stacked with ‘experts’ of Labour’s choosing – the outcome in inevitable!)
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August 28, 2017 8:22am
- Huevon
  
  These education unionists a real pieces of work. The digital reporting with cause “anxiety” in children. FFS!
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:40am
- Gabby
  
  They’ve got it totally the wrong way round right kabull shit.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:49am
- Inandout
  
  ‘Experts often possess more data than judgment’. Colin Powell
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:42am
MT_Tinman

I watched some old fashion rugby league the other night.

I only caught glimpses while doing something else but it went like this:

One team (usually the team in black) receiving the ball from a play-the-ball type restart (rucks and mauls are contestable so neither of those names apply), making one pass to a big bloke who then ran about a yard into an opponent and created another play-the-ball.

This would happen at least five or six times until they passed it to a fellow called Williams (in the team for light relief?) who invariably dropped it.

They then had a scrum and restarted the process all over again.

Exactly as I remember rugby league before they invented the six plays rule – including, strangely enough, the bloke called Williams.

I keep reading that there was a NZ v Oz rugby union test on at the time but no rugby union appeared on my TV.
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August 28, 2017 8:31am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  The difference is that in rugby league, both teams do not push hard in the scrum.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:48am
- Gabby
  
  The stunning tactic of running flat out slightly ahead of the ball carrier so he can’t pass to you isn’t a league thing is it.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:52am
- Kimbo
  
  Leaguie Chris Rattue thought it was a perfect advertisement of why, when it is played like that, rugby is the best game in any of the football codes. One man’s opinions, and credit to Rattue, love him or hate him he seldom sits on the fence, nor follows the pack like too many of our sports media.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11912037
  
  But too many loose/unearned points for this purists liking. And can’t SBW catch?!
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:55am
  - Kimbo
    
    ….which inspires a variation on Yorkshire and England fast bowler, Freddie Trueman’s caustic words to the Reverend David Shepherd, when the latter kept dropping catches off Trueman’s bowling:
    
    “Just imagine it’s Sunday, Vicar, and keep t’ hands together!”
    
    Maybe someone needs to make the same suggestion with SBW and his 5x daily Salah/prayer. 😉
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:08am
Huevon

To see where the Pandora’s box of “pay equity” will take us (thanks NZ judiciary!), look at the lefties calling for the Black Ferns to be paid the same as the All Blacks. National had an opportunity to nip this nonsense in the bud but went cuckservative. We’ll pay with our chequebooks.
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August 28, 2017 8:35am
- Lance
  
  The support services (people helping in homes) is in deep shit with pay equity.
  Not only do they have to pay more for unskilled labour but now the nurses are pissed off they are getting paid the same as people that make beds up.
  And are leaving in droves.
  At least 2 service providers have folded in the last few weeks.
  Train wreck to follow soon.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:05am
  - Scott
    
    Yes the unintended consequence of pay equity for care workers has meant that a number of rest homes have closed in the Wairarapa. The remaining rest homes are full and now more expensive than before.
    What people need to understand is the idea of freedom. That we have a free market so that people can agree on the price they will pay, for goods and services and wages.
    
    When you socialise something and say you must pay these workers this amount, then you get all sorts of unintended consequences. You get massive pay parity issues and the care for, in this case old people, gets much more expensive and indeed unaffordable for some.
    
    I’m beginning to think that social justice warriors ruin everything that they touch.
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:27am
    - Lance
      
      Reverse King Midas?
      
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      August 28, 2017 1:55pm
      - simpleton1
        
        More gold than they can eat.
        Once the printing presses start running. 😉
        
        Or just get Rumpelstiltskin in, to spin straw into gold.
        and they live happily together for ever and ever.
        
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        August 28, 2017 2:01pm
      - simpleton1
        
        and they live happily together for ever and ever, in the land of no injustice, and perpetual political correctness
        
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        August 28, 2017 2:10pm
- Gabby
  
  Steve Chew should throw regular trials open to any females who want to play professional rugby.
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:22am
- Gabby
  
  Cuck soccer tiff hoover on.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:34am
Happychappy

Is the David Fisher column in the Herald about the police looking into Bradbury’s bank accounts to see if or any payments were made to the supposed hacker of Whaleoil a way to get dirty politics into the 2017 General Election. Two low lifes that would it know the meaning of the word truth.
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August 28, 2017 8:35am
- KKKKatee
  
  Well, I hope the Police do find evidence that Bomber was linked to Rawshark. That’ll be great for Labour – shows just what a thoroughly despicable bunch of people they have working for them/associate with. And Bomber’s getting tetchy about this? Nothing to fear Bomber if you’ve got nothing to hide.
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:53am
  - sooty
    
    Poor wee bomber. His blog has got money problems. Why not just close it down. Bugger all people go there, its just an empty echo chamber, like his mind.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:08am
  - Gabby
    
    Chop chop for little bomby eh kakty.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:55am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      You are amazingly erudite, we ( the Royal one) hang off your every rejoinder. 😉
      
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      August 28, 2017 1:36pm
fluffykiwi

I note a picture in the Herald of articles of clothing with the words “Lets do this” on the back. Is the Farmers selling this on behalf of Labour. Is labour getting a “donation” from every sale.
We of the conservative mind should boycott the Farmers shop until after the election because of this blatant electioneering from this company.
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August 28, 2017 8:36am
- Gabby
  
  Let’s do that fluffer.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:56am
Keeping Stock

So; the Mother of All Scandals is either Winston Peters’ superannuation woes of the police checking Bomber’s bank account.

If it’s the latter, I say “bring it on!”; Hager’s Dirty Politics book blew up in the Left’s face in 2014, and by dredging it all up again, especially now that Key is no longer in politics, all Bomber is doing is make people roll their eyes then vote National.
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August 28, 2017 8:39am
- KKKKatee
  
  Poor old Bomber. He quite happily gloated about Whaleoil’s emails being hacked. Thought it was quite funny at the time Bomber did. Tell you what Bomber – nobody cares!
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:42am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Indeed; and now he’s playing the depression card, even though he and others on the Left have mocked Cameron Slater relentlessly over WO’s depression.
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:49am
    - KKKKatee
      
      Yes, I’ve read that. He’s a thoroughly despicable individual I’m afraid. And he’s donkey deep in Labour goings on….
      Even enrolled twice…….
      Normal people don’t do that……
      
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      August 28, 2017 8:55am
      - Gabby
        
        He’s a prickly customer alright kakty.
        
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        August 28, 2017 9:58am
    - Gabby
      
      You’re not making that up are you smuggy. I mean if I were Fatcambo I’d be bloody depressed, but that’s not relentless mocking, it’s profound relief.
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:58am
    - 3-coil
      
      KeepingStock (8:49am) – Whaleoil hypocritically mocked other people’s disabilities (when it suited him) so Slater left himself open to being mocked.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:42am
VicParking

Guyon Espiner Interviewed Bill English for 23 minutes on Red Radio this morning. Guyon spoke for 15 minutes and Bill for 8. He interupted Bill any time he started to say something interesting. Guyon spouted his view on the world using “big” words to impress. “Neo Liberalism” was a failure. When Bill shot him down he cut him off and changed the subject.
It will be interesting to see the Ratio when they interview the Tooth Fairy.
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August 28, 2017 8:43am
- Southern Raider
  
  I’ve noted that a lot more people are starting to drop in the term privilege to justify their left wing position on any subject
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:06am
- cas
  
  yes I agree Vic Parking, and Espiner has clearly gone through all his interviews from years back to find out stuff with which to attack Bill. I thought Bill handled it well but don’t expect the same level of scrutiny will apply to Jacinda.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:14am
- Kabull
  
  English handled himself very, very well. He did not get rattled, despite Espiner’s attempts to throw him. Like previous comments, I bet nothing as rigorous will be pout to Jacinda.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:34am
- Gabby
  
  He was worried that if he let Bingles run his mouth he might change policies midsentence. Instead of waiting for the polls as usual.
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:01am
KKKKatee

I note Jacinda Ardern says they will have a ‘conversation’ with Councils re a tax on plastic bags. Guess what Jacinda? You’re a wee bit behind the 8 ball – our Council has already had that conversation and will not be implementing a tax on plastic bags. They don’t see they have the right to do that. So go ahead and find some other issue to have a ‘conversation’ about.
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August 28, 2017 8:45am
- jcuk
  
  A tax on plastic bags would not bother me as I use them as little as possible [ trolley direct to my wheeled shopping bag] but value them occasionally for good uses. The do-good lefties are nuts IMO
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:01am
- Lance
  
  No… Jacinda will just piss all over the elected councils wishes in favour of the far lefts demands.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:09am
- tf78
  
  We have had healthy eaters staying with us for two weeks and our recycle bin was full to the top with plastic packaging which apparently keeps food “fresh” – don’t know why they are bothered about plastic bags as at least they’re reusable.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:51am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    That was an issue withe My Food Bag also, anecdotally.
    
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    August 28, 2017 1:38pm
- Gabby
  
  I wonder what they do about plastic bags in Hong Kong.
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:02am
  - holysheet
    
    According to the left, they eat them. If JK eats little babies, then they eat their plastic bags.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:19am
Manolo

I expect our own dime to jump to her defense:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4326850/porn-star-mia-khalifa-reveals-isis-have-threatened-to-behead-her-and-mocked-up-sick-execution-pics

Mia Khalifa – the number-one-ranked performer on Pornhub – was targeted by the bloodthirsty terror group on social media.
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August 28, 2017 8:51am
- Ashley Schaeffer
  
  How do ISIS know about her? Goat shortage?
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:41am
  - GoVege
    
    No doubt.
    Once they have had their way with the goat, s/he is regarded as “tainted” and must be executed.
    Hence the shortage.
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:03am
oldpark

Just a sign of things to come should there be a change of government. The jackboot Lie-bour /Green Party running the Wellington City Council,with the rat bag Justin Lester mayor leading the charge.
He wants to put his jackboots over property owners and ratepayers,in conjuction ,with his inspectors,to check out your house or of place of residence to make sure it suits his criteria.
Maybe the pest should solve the traffic grid lock in Wellington ,which he and his associates are responsible for. Just for once he should do someting useful ,other than gouging ratepayers.
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August 28, 2017 8:51am
- Gabby
  
  You’re not one of them slumlord types are you oldfart.
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:16am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    There are lots of people letting homes due to their being a shortage that wouldn’t be bothering otherwise, they houses will just become unavailable to the market.
    
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    August 28, 2017 1:41pm
Happychappy

Blubber Oil is pissed off because he thinks National have done the hit on Winston Peters and even went as far to say that the Paula Bennett insinuations that are now between Lawyers and Journalists he hopes the later wins so the story is in the public domain.
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August 28, 2017 8:51am
- CHFR1
  
  It isn’t fair when something happens to your boy is it?? Winston was donkey deep in the hit on Meteria Turei (not that she didn’t deserve it) so you would think he would make sure his closet was skeleton free.
  Whaleoil seems to have forgotten politics is a contact sport where blood can spill.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:16am
  - Happychappy
    
    Blubber is his own worst enemy I have no time for his political agenda. But in saying that I believe the Law did him a injustice over the hacking.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:51am
VicParking

I went with an elderly couple grocery shopping on the weekend. They live on the pension so have to watch their spending. When pointing out that product B was cheaper than the one they picked they stated that they choose the one they did because they could not open product B. This type of choice was made in regards to five other products.
Can’t open the jar, can’t get the tinfoil off and cant tear open the packaging. The other choice was because the amount of product that was unabled to be got from the product when it got low. Shape of the jar, unable to squeeze last bit out etc. They said packaging has about a 10% deliberate wastage due to the shape of the container so that you had to buy again sooner. Sort of things you dont realise when money is not tight.
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August 28, 2017 8:56am
- Dave Mann
  
  Good point. I’ve often exclaimed (well, sworn loudly, to tell the truth) when confronted with some products’ packaging, screaming “if I was a little old lady, how the fuck would I get this open????”
  
  I’m waiting to read a news report one day along the lines of ‘elderly couple found dead in home, starved to death as they were unable to open any of their food products’.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:09am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Even the seal on the milk gets a little too much glue occasionally making it IMPOSSIBLE to remove. I’ve had to take a sharp knife to it on occasion!!
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:41am
    - Gruffydd
      
      From my days on building sites .
      A Chisel is a multi tool
      Opens cans n bottles, cuts foil seals, butters bread, cuts tape ,sharpens pencils, scribes lines, cuts tin ,levers out nails, shapes concrete. multi purpose BBQ tool , butcher pigs, opens shell fish. .,
      I even have seen a builder use one to cut wood .
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:55am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        When I was in the workforce, griff, the chisel was not sharp enough until you could shave with it – well, the hairs on my arm – not my face 😉
        (but it worked there too once when my mate shaved off part of his beard with his chisel. 🙂
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:02pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        My good chisels would not go near anything but wood . It takes to much effort on the bench grinder and stone to get then sharp enough to cut cleanly .
        
        The 1″ multipurpose hacking tool that usually lives in my belt is not a good chisel it gets sharpened with the angle grinder.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:44pm
  - Fletch
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HubZInAs0-A
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:06am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      I’ve been there, man 😆
      
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      August 28, 2017 12:05pm
- Gruffydd
  
  You can get special high leverage can and jar openers.
  Well worth the few bucks and time searching them down for old folks not as strong or coordinated as they once were.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:14am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Just whack the edge of the jar lid once or twice quite forcefully on the bench to break the air seal.
    Works brilliantly for those of us who can’t use brute force.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:31am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Knife handle tapping around the top, if you do not want to break your bench!!!
      
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      August 28, 2017 10:11am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Both methods tricky.
        More than once have had to throw out whole jarful because the rim of the jar had chipped into the contents because of knife tapping etc.
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:59am
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Hot water method always works. The metal jar lid expands and the glass doesn’t. Haven’t had to use it for a while as my sons can generally open jars that I can’t.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:43pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  There need to be more complaints to companies about their packaging. I just recently complained for the first time to Libra about their new tampon/pad packaging that made it difficult to find the right product in the supermarket and at home in the bathroom, as they’d make everything the same colour with only slight variation.
  
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  August 28, 2017 12:32pm
  - realityczech
    
    So you can now drive a rally car, ski and skydive ?
    
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    August 28, 2017 12:34pm
Manolo

Discomfort and disquiet surrounding nutter Corbyn:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/27/labour-jeremy-corbyn-brexit-policy-change
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August 28, 2017 9:15am
Ross12

A week or so back Clark compared Ardern to Macron and Trudeau. We know how Macron’s popularity is going, so soon after his election.
Trudeau has now introduced a provision that Canadians can opt to put gender “X” on their passports.
Can some inquiring journalist ask Ardern if NZ will follow suit should she get elected.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2017/08/minister_hussen_announcesmajorstepforwardingenderequalitybymakin.html
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August 28, 2017 9:39am
- mikenmild
  
  Hands up anyone who cares what it says on their passport about their gender identity?
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:46am
  - Manolo
    
    You are a genius and a good Labourite, milky. Your convincing of Angry Andy to make room for lovely Taxcinda deserves praise.
    
    All of this while some of us thought you had retired from blogging…
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:49am
    - Paulus
      
      Don’t believe it but the day after the election the Unions take over the Party again in accordance with their Constitutional rulings.
      Angry will be either Deputy Leader of the Opposition or Deputy Prime Minister, and will along with H Clarke and H Simpson give Taxinda the orders from on high.
      She will become more of a tool than ever.
      Robertsons’ hand are still in the fire as expected.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:22am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        Actually, likely to be Robbo after the elections while Taxinda goes off to have a baby
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:12pm
  - Gabby
    
    Hands up anyone who cares what it says on other people’s passports.
    Only nanny state dogooder nosyparker snoflake girlymen I reckon.
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:08am
    - VicParking
      
      I have an inbuilt alarm clock that tells me what sex I am every morning when I wake up.
      
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      August 28, 2017 1:58pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    You know the conservatives are focused on bum sex and gender identity MM. I guess if you are confused or insecure about your sexuality, as many conservatives seem to be. an obsession with others who suffer similar issues is understandable.
    
    I see Manolo is doing his usual make something up about someone then attack it .
    Ask him how Trumps going….
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:09am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      So we can expect incontinence pants to be subsidised for mainly men then soon? I mean men have a choice eh, unlike women.
      
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      August 28, 2017 1:48pm
  - softail 1450
    
    it would make a big difference if you were trying to visit a staunchly Islamic country ,I doubt they would appreciate having to guess a visitors gender especially if they asked for visual proof ,,,,
    
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    August 28, 2017 1:34pm
- Dafixeruppa
  
  You can already have Gender X on your passport.
  It’s been there for a while now
  Edit: forgot to add, how do they prove your gender on your identity document? Makes the gender field an arbitrary field and apparently only used to indicate which sex you would rather have take you into the back room for that full on pat down…
  
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  August 28, 2017 12:11pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Statues, including Captain Cook, in Sydney vandalised by Socialist vermin.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/indigenous/statues-vandalised-in-sydneys-hyde-park/news-story/46d3da3e1fe313201c23b49307cb0f5c?nk=98c0fe40813f134e543f25af76e0bb2d-1503869759

What happens when Leftist here start vandalising public statues?

These degenerates need a taste of their own medicine. How about vandalising a Kate Sheppard public mural – spray paint several big black penises on it with sperm dripping off Miss Empowered chin and oozing over her boobies.

Can you imagine the autistic shrieking from Ms Marvelli, Ardern and the rest of Team Manhaters, lol?
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August 28, 2017 9:50am
- mikenmild
  
  That’s a powerful fantasy you have there, Kea. Clearly you have thought about this a lot. Can I just suggest that you rehearse it a few times with a $10 note?
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:53am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Stop projecting your inclusive mixed race super not racist orgy fantasy onto me.
    
    You didn’t tell us you’ve done an interview for a magazine article about your feminist “values”:
    
    What Open Marriage Taught One Man About Feminism
    
    “As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.”
    
    https://www.thecut.com/2015/07/what-open-marriage-taught-one-man-about-feminism.html
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:19am
    - mikenmild
      
      You are projecting again, Kea. Open up about the root cause of your frustrations and fantasies. We can help you heal.
      
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      August 28, 2017 10:34am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “We can help you heal.”
        
        Progressives don’t heal, they destroy, whether that is cultural heritage, babies in their mother’s womb, entire civilisations – Soviet bloc, spreading lethal diseases – homosexuals.
        
        If I wanted to know how to create as much human misery as possible I would give you a call.
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:44am
      - mikenmild
        
        Just let us know where the statue of Kate Shepherd is and when you are planning to masturbate on it, so that we can have then men in white coats on standby.
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:46am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        “Just let us know where the statue of Kate Shepherd is and when you are planning to masturbate on it, so that we can have then men in white coats on standby”
        
        I’m sorry, where did you read I was planning that?
        
        See, you are projecting your own repressed homosexual fantasy.
        
        You need to embrace your true sexuality as all good feminists do.
        
        And remember Leftist believe #GayIsOk, especially now there is a drug called Truvada you can take when you eventually get AIDS.
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:02am
      - mikenmild
        
        Sorry, I just didn’t read the details of your proposed action properly, Kea.
        Just remember to check with the nurse before you pop out to draw graphic pornographic images on public monuments.
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:08am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Jizzy this was the hint
        
        How about vandalising a Kate Sheppard public mural – spray paint several big black penises on it with sperm dripping off Miss Empowered chin and oozing over her boobies.
        
        Now why don’t you expose more of your issue with the only real woman in your life, your mummy, and all the prospective women that could have been yet have rejected you because you are a complete tosser.
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:14am
      - Jack5
        
        I’m not sure Kate Sheppard was a Leftist, Kea. Perhaps the Left has claimed her for her stalwart role in getting NZ women the vote.
        
        Sheppard was a bit controversial in her private life. Didn’t she move in with a family, and supplant the wife, which was a fairly devastating move for the middle class in Victorian times? It was less blameworthy for the blokes in those days, but for women, very naughty.
        
        Still, Kate Sheppard is certainly worthy of a statue for what she did for women’s rights, and, Kea, I’m not gonna tell you where it is, because I don’t want mountain parrots crapping on it.
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:25am
    - Huevon
      
      CLEANSING FIRE NOW!!!
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:42am
- Gabby
  
  You need to stop watching the porns for a bit jizzy mitts. They’re doing your head in.
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:06am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Its not from porn, its from observing the “lifestyles” of sexual degenerates aka Progressives.
    
    I see one Progressive woman is probably going to be raped to death by Islamists soon. She is a porn star who sucked a cock while wearing a hijab . You can imagine how pissed off Mohammedans are about that!
    
    Now the whore says she is getting death threats from ISIS, lol.
    
    How much longer will your empowered feminist sista be alive for, you reckon?
    
    #YouOKSis #YesAllWomen
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:29am
- realityczech
  
  “spray paint several big black penises on it with sperm dripping off Miss Empowered chin and oozing over her boobies.”
  
  Now if you had the approved lefty political point of view – that would be considered art and your mates in the Welly council would buy it for $1.2 million, of rate payers money.
  
  You should see if you can get a commission to create this important installation. Tell them it is about empowered women rising about subjectification and rape culture etc.
  
  You will make a fortune.
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:59pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    @realityczech
    
    subjectification????
    Is it anything like subjectivization (which does appear in one of my dictionaries)?
    
    Could you please just use ordinary English?
    
    I can’t get my head around these Foucaultisms.
    http://oro.open.ac.uk/7235/1/Reintegrating_Sense_into_subjectification-_J.F.Motzkau_%28bookchapter%29.pdf
    
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    August 28, 2017 7:33pm
    - realityczech
      
      Oh the irony Wiggles
      
      In historical (or diachronic) linguistics, subjectification (also known as subjectivization or subjectivisation) is a language change process in which a linguistic expression acquires meanings that convey the speaker’s attitude or viewpoint.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectification_(linguistics)
      
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      August 28, 2017 7:37pm
      - realityczech
        
        From Sexual Objectification to Sexual Subjectification: The Resexualisation of Women’s Bodies in the Media
        
        https://mronline.org/2009/05/23/from-sexual-objectification-to-sexual-subjectification-the-resexualisation-of-womens-bodies-in-the-media/
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:41pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Crikey,
        lucky that didn’t come up in my School Cert. English exam.
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:42pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        ‘When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
        
        – Humpty Dumpty
        
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        August 28, 2017 8:07pm
Manolo

Aspiring king Macron is put in his place:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/25/emmanuel-macron-called-arrogant-inexperienced-polish-prime-minister/

Speaking in the Bulgarian coastal city of Varna, Mr Macron said: “Poland today is not a country that can show Europe the way, it’s a country that has decided to go against European interests in many areas. Europe was built on public freedoms that Poland is infringing today,” he added.

Beata Szydlo, the prime minister, hit back by saying: “Perhaps his (Macron’s) arrogant comments result from lack of political experience, which I can understand.

“But I expect that he will make up for this shortcoming and will be more restrained in the future,”.
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August 28, 2017 10:33am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  What would you expect from a guy who pounds dried up granny pussy – just another Globohomo degenerate.
  
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  August 28, 2017 10:48am
  - Gabby
    
    It’s twisting your melon man.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:41am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    What is wrong with being a MILF lover?
    
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    August 28, 2017 1:58pm
  - realityczech
    
    “What would you expect from a guy who pounds dried up granny pussy – just another Globohomo degenerate.”
    
    This is why I keep coming back to KB 🙂
    
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    August 28, 2017 7:07pm
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT IN TROUBLE: THE SHOCK POLL FROM WHANGAREI …

Audrey Young: Bill English tries some intermittent negativity on Labour – NZ Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11912199

… extract …

… English had confirmation, as if he needed it, earlier on Sunday morning that Ardern’s sudden elevation a month ago is doing more than just redistributing votes on the centre-left, among Labour, Greens and New Zealand First.

It is impacting on National – the only question is how heavily.

Q+As Colmar Brunton snap poll in the Whangarei electorate was more interesting for its Party Vote result than the fact it had National MP Shane Reti well ahead of New Zealand First candidate Shane Jones.

The poll showed that the gap between National and Labour on the Party Vote support has narrowed to only four points – much closer than the gap of 32.39 points in the 2014 election result, and of 24.22 in the 2011 election.

English is not following Ardern’s “relentlessly positive” posture – he has decided to be intermittently negative and he lashed out at Labour’s tax policies during his speech. … read more via hyperlink above …
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High-profile NZ First recruit Shane Jones lagging behind National’s Shane Reti in battle for Whangarei | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/high-profile-nz-first-recruit-shane-jones-lagging-behind-nationals-reti-in-battle-whangarei

In the battle to win the Whangarei seat, a new Q+A Colmar Brunton poll reveals voters are strongly leaning towards National candidate Dr Shane Reti over New Zealand First’s Shane Jones, who is hoping for a political comeback. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
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The ‘issues slide’ has a long history … check the GONE GONE GOING section at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .Jacinda Ardern is the essential effective messenger and credible leader for the Labour Party.

The 28 May 2016 Newshub Reid Research Issues Poll was the ‘tipping point’ …

Opinion: John Key’s Govt has failed New Zealand on housing | Newshub

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2016/05/opinion-john-keys-govt-has-failed-new-zealand-on-housing.html

The verdict is in: John Key’s government has failed the New Zealand public when it comes to controlling the housing market.

The failure has been made clear with an unprecedented 76 percent of voters in the latest Newshub-Reid Research poll saying ‘no, the Government is not doing enough when it comes to housing’. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
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August 28, 2017 10:46am
- Ross12
  
  “John Key’s government has failed the New Zealand public when it comes to controlling the housing market.”
  I never realised we had a nationalised housing business.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:10am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
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    Ross12 … Going forward we are going to hear ‘I never realized …’ much more often from National supporters !
    
    Yesterdays campaign launch was more a Wake really.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:38am
    - Ross12
      
      Rubbish Hugh.
      What Government around the world has controlled it’s housing market ?? ( most countries have rapidly rising house values due to cheap money from the banking system) .
      Oh maybe North Korea !
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:45am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Ross12 … I walked through it at the time of the release of this years Annual Demographia Survey …
        
        http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
        
        National is now deservedly paying the price for its deceit and incompetence.
        
        Tough.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:14pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        … From yesterday …
        
        Posted at … http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/08/general_debate_27_august_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-2003563 … and … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/08/macro-afternoon-262/#comment-2943519
        
        … How could PM English and Deputy PM Bennett have been so dumb ?
        
        … Perception is reality in politics …
        
        National Party auctions off ice axe signed by Sir Edmund Hillary to raise funds for campaign … Nicole Lawton … Fairfax New Zealand
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96019247/national-party-auctions-off-ice-axe-signed-by-sir-edmund-hillary-to-raise-funds-for-campaign
        
        … Read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:35pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        NZ readies to toss its realty/immigration government … MacroBusiness Australia
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/08/nz-readies-toss-realtyimmigration-government-sea/
        
        … extract …
        
        … The very stupid reigning Nationals, led by the formerly astute immigration/housing sensitive turned stupid Bill English, sound positively barren by comparison, at The Australian: … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 28, 2017 5:08pm
Jack5

An intriguing article behind the paywall of the Telegraph. I can’t pinch it all to relay it, but here are snippets of Janet Daley roasting the “elite” and their media.

…in Britain, television news presenters admit that their membership of an enclosed metropolitan circle puts them out of touch with the wider population.

…What is being blared out shamelessly from a good many media outlets now is beyond arrogant disdain: it is full-on loathing. I have never known a time when public intellectuals – commentators and academics – have stated, without equivocation, that they were waiting eagerly for those swathes of the population that hold unacceptable views (on Brexit, say, or immigration) to go away and die.

…In a US newspaper article last week, an apologist for the new metropolitan consensus described the acceptable world view as “internationalist, secular, cosmopolitan, multicultural liberalism”. This seems to make it explicitly opposed to national pride, religious faith, cultural identity, communal cohesion and any form of social conservatism.

…What happens when ordinary people are openly hated by the powerful? They are licensed to hate right back – and to act on their hurt and frustration. So they vote for a Donald Trump who cleverly plays on the loathing that the “elites” shower on his supporters.
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August 28, 2017 10:50am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  “They are licensed to hate right back ”
  
  That is not enough, the Globohomos need to be liquidated, they have openly declared war on their own civilisation – they are the true extremists fueled by hate and irrationalism.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:14am
kwkiwigirl

Fascinating coverage of Peter’s taking overpayments of Super for the last 7 years and then claiming ‘ignorance’. Just shows how the media party is running scared of Peters and not upsetting him and then not getting the post election interviews with him.

Never seen Garner go so easy on someone as he did on Peters on the AM show when quizzing him on this. Richardson sat his in the corner, not a peep from him. Peter’s only response on the AM show was that Burr is a ‘junior reporter’. I’m not a fan of Burr but if Peter’s is having to resort to personalised insults he hasn’t got much to stand on.

Sainsbury on Radio live trying to defend Peters – with ‘at least he paid it back so it’s all ok’, ‘he doesn’t need the money’ etc etc.

The old DomPost, realising that their Labour party will need Peters have run an article on the Peters issue but haven’t opened it up for comments. Always a key indicator that they are running scared on an issue by not opening up the comments.
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August 28, 2017 10:50am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  And “Newstalk” just had to squeeze in a “Bill English had to pay back a housing allowance too”
  
  Good grief –
  
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  August 28, 2017 12:07pm
Manolo

Will it end?
http://people.com/movies/gone-with-the-wind-canceled-theater-memphis/?utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag

Gone With the Wind is now gone from The Orpheum Theatre in Memphis, Tennessee. The theater’s board deemed the 1939 film “insensitive” to their larger audience after receiving “numerous comments” that stemmed from a screening on Aug. 11.
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August 28, 2017 10:56am
- Kimbo
  
  Fascinating.
  
  Do these people even know that it was a radical movie at the time as Hattie McDaniel won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress – the first black American (yes, the were “negroes” then!) to do so? And before anyone says, “yes, but she played a black house slave”…no shit, Sherlock! The movie begins in the Antebellum South!
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattie_McDaniel
  
  “The past is another country, they do things differently there”. And letting those differences be isn’t approving of them. It is art, ffs, like Wagner, and Leni Riefenstahl or anything, be it high brow or mass consumption. Let it be…and let those who encounter it appreciate the differences, learn and make their own decisions.
  
  Next to be purged – the Bible (lots of slavery there!) and Shakespeare?
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:01am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Guess the movie The Help will be next, despite the Oscars’ won by the black actresses and launching their careers to another level.
    
    The Help did make one of the white folk look particularly stupid so perhaps it will be allowed to pass scrutiny by SJWs.
    
    Well worth a watch by the way.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:42am
- Jack5
  
  Manolo, perhaps the next target will be cotton – the main reason for slavery in the southern Untied States.
  
  Cotton, a natural fibre, unlike synthetics, breathes. It’s cooler in the heat, and warmer in the cold.
  
  But … it’s white! Or off-white, and has now been bred to grow in red, green and shades of brown. (The advantage is that pure cotton in its natural colour doesn’t fade.)
  
  But it’s got to go! It’s a reminder of slavery.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:11am
- Longknives
  
  Jack Daniels was a Slave Owner (I feel wracked with White Guilt every time a take a sip of delicious smooth Single Barrel)
  Wonder if the Loopy Left will try to attack the Distillery?
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:17am
  - mikenmild
    
    Next they’ll be coming for your swastikas.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:18am
    - Jack5
      
      The place to go for swastikas is India, where it’s been a common symbol since long before the emergence of fascism.
      
      The Nazis were a fucked-up, evil bunch, but they (or was it their mate,Leni Riefenstahl) had a good eye for symbols. Red and black everywhere, and everyone in the world (except perhaps in some backwaters of India) knows they adopted the swastika (in Sanskrit it means “well being”).
      
      But who round the world now remembers the symbol of the fascists, from which they got their name. Here, for your next pub quiz, Milky, from Wikipedia is the origin:
      
      The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio meaning a bundle of rods, ultimately from the Latin word fasces. This was the name given to political organisations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates.
      
      In Christchurch, at least before the earthquake, there were a few houses built in the 1920s, that had modest-size swastikas on the brick work, as a sign of a good luck. I suppose they grew plants in front of them in the 1940s.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:36am
      - mikenmild
        
        Could you help me out with the Latin root for the term fuckwit?
        
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        August 28, 2017 11:39am
      - Jack5
        
        Milky (11.39 post): happy to help, but first, your own pseudonym is interesting:
        
        Miken …. from Indo-European: Mikwit used for deluded, later in Gothic for raver.
        
        Mild … one of the uses described in the Shorter Oxford Dictionary is “to denote feebleness”.
        
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        August 28, 2017 12:19pm
      - holysheet
        
        Fuck =irrumabo
        wit = ingenii.
        Combine them together you get iramboigenii
        
        Iamboygen
        There ya go milky, a new name for you.
        
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        August 28, 2017 4:42pm
      - GoVege
        
        Apparently they were in the Christchurch Cathedral too.
        My grandmother took my mum there when she was little and explained that they used to have a different meaning before the nazis took power.
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:17pm
    - Longknives
      
      What’s your tipple of choice Mikey?
      Let me guess- ‘Organically Brewed’ Turmeric Ginger Beer?
      
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      August 28, 2017 12:17pm
      - mikenmild
        
        How come turmeric has become soooo trandy rigfht now.
        Pass me a reasonably dry Pilsener thanks, but nothing over priced.
        
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        August 28, 2017 1:53pm
      - GoVege
        
        Turmeric is supposed to be a natural anti-oxidant and the reason Indians have the lowest rate of alzheimers in the world.
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:19pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/slave-behind-jack-daniels-never-got-credit-he-deserved-says-desc/
    
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    August 28, 2017 6:10pm
Fletch

So an Australian activist just blew up a van of gas cylinders outside Australian Christian Lobby’s headquarters. Apparently, he is not “a huge fan’ on their beliefs regarding sexuality. Australian police are treating it as a “car fire” and have adopted a “nothing to see here” attitude.

An LGBT activist who blew up a hired van outside the Australian Christian Lobby’s headquarters disliked its “position on sexuality”, according to reports.

Jaden Duong “drove a van up to a church, opened four cylinders of gas and lit a lighter” in an apparent suicide attempt, according to records released to the magistrate’s court where he is standing trial for arson and property damage.

Notes from Sydney’s Concord Hospital — which treated Duong following the blast — suggest “He is ‘not a huge fan’ of the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL), or religion in general, due to their beliefs and position on sexuality,” according to The Australian.

Asked why he chose the ACL headquarters — the ground floor of which was gutted — Duong is alleged to have replied: “Because I dislike the Australian Christian Lobby,” and, “Because religions are failed.”

However, Australian Capital Territory (ACT) police insisted the “car fire” was not motivated by religion, ideology, or politics.

“Based on information known by police at the time, which included a brief record of interview with the alleged offender where he stated to police his intention was to commit suicide by blowing himself up, police stated the actions of the individual were not politically, religiously or ideologically motivated,” said an official statement.

“This is still ACT Policing’s position.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/27/gay-activist-who-blew-up-van-bomb-outside-australian-christian-lobby-hq-disliked-position-on-sexuality/

Imagine if this had been outside a mosque? What’s the best it would have been labelled as terrorism then?
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August 28, 2017 11:11am
- mikenmild
  
  That brings up a wider question, Fletch. Does it matter what an offender’s motive is?
  Is Islamic terrorism, for example, any worse than this guy’s terrorism? Doesn’t make any difference to the victims, I guess.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:16am
  - Fletch
    
    It goes without saying that any terrorism is wrong, but it is telling the way liberals treat the perpetrators of violence if said terrorist’s thoughts are in line with liberal ideology. They seem very sympathetic and kind of dismiss the whole episode.
    
    For example, the incident at Fort Hood where a soldier who had been radicalized in Islam shot up the place and yelled ‘Ahulla ackbar’ was described as “workplace violence” by the Obama Administration – because of which, families of the deceased could get no compensation.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:23am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    It matters to Globohomos like you mikenmild who immediately have to go into Diversity Spill Containment mode every time one of your imported Mohammedans drives over the heads of little children.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:23am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Take away his taxpayer subsidised Truvada prescription and Mother Nature will take care of this little problem. 🙂
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:17am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    I should add also: remove the tax payer supplied HIV meds that is the only thing stopping this minority group from wiping itself out purely through their own collective actions.
    
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    August 28, 2017 11:26am
- Gruffydd
  
  blew up a van of gas cylinders
  
  LOL
  You mean he lit the gas and it burned the van.
  Just like lighting a Bunsen burner or gas bbq .
  
  Only on brietbart and points right does that become a huge explosion to frighten the usual bunch of knobs who get “news” from such propaganda outlets .
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:26am
  - Fletch
    
    Go and have a look at the photos in my previous link. All the networks are describing it as an explosion.
    
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/van-smashes-office-australian-christian-lobby-230532406.html
    
    But why don’t you put your theory to the test and see what happens if you do it. Your comment is idiotic.
    
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    August 28, 2017 12:08pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      Yes fetch ya sit in a van and blow it up .
      You then get out of the van and walk to hospital.
      
      In Griffs world blowing up a van is when there is pieces of van and flesh splattered about after an explosion.
      
      Have you ever seen a gas can go up?
      We used to chuck cans of disposable camping propane on fires.
      A 220 gram can of gas going off in an explosion would destroy a van .
      
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      August 28, 2017 12:35pm
    - realityczech
      
      Will they ban it like they did the Synagogue ?
      
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      August 28, 2017 12:39pm
- Gabby
  
  He’s not a muzzo so he can’t be a tourist.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:47am
mandk

@ mikenmild

I’m not sure of the root of the word “fuckwit”, but there is a better terms with a clear Anglo-Saxon etymology:

miken (verb) – to make
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mild (adjective) – feeble minded
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August 28, 2017 12:24pm
- Jack5
  
  Excellent, mandk, I bow to your scholarship.
  
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  August 28, 2017 12:28pm
- mikenmild
  
  Nice try, but don’t look up what mandk means.
  
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  August 28, 2017 1:57pm
  - mandk
    
    Nice try, but you obviously don’t have the wit to propose a definition for mandk
    
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    August 28, 2017 2:15pm
gump

Record numbers of suicides last year, and our Government is cutting funding for mental health services.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11912422

This doesn’t sit well with me.
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August 28, 2017 1:03pm
- Harriet
  
  Didn’t Key get a suicide report done early on when he was PM? From memory he did – and then said nothing more on the matter.
  
  BTW — there was a programme on male suicide on saturday morning – with the live audience survivors of male suicide.
  
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  August 28, 2017 1:22pm
  - VicParking
    
    Sorry you cant survive suicide otherwise it would not be suicide….
    
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    August 28, 2017 2:14pm
    - MCos
      
      Attempted suicide, then.
      
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      August 28, 2017 4:58pm
- Gabby
  
  Im sure Colehole will produce indisputable figures that prove conclusively how more money than ever is being allocated to this (but DHBs are spending it all on overseas trips).
  
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  August 28, 2017 1:42pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  My sister works in mental health. She says the biggest contributors to this problem is drugs – and not just P and others – good old marijuana is right up there as one of the main contributors.
  But that’s okay – just legalize it, and see the suicide number go through the roof. I suppose it will improve the gene pool. /sarc.
  
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  August 28, 2017 1:42pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    But then is drug-taking a cause or symptom?
    
    Maybe those with mental health problems are more likely to take drugs in the first place.
    
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    August 28, 2017 1:58pm
    - mikenmild
      
      How the hell is Don expected to answer a question that seeks factual information, Lucia?
      
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      August 28, 2017 2:01pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Especially if they have been exposed to psychoactive drugs in the womb.
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:50pm
  - mikenmild
    
    It’s actually much more likely that mental health will improve if we legalised all psychoactive substances.
    Legitimate manufacturing means better quality and legalisation also encourages people to seek treatment if they have a problem.
    A bit like how your whiskey is safe to drink and you can meet your AA mates openly without (too much) stigma.
    
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    August 28, 2017 2:00pm
    - Lance
      
      Bullshit
      Utter utter utter bullshit
      
      So legitimate P is going to not cause havoc?
      What a twat
      
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      August 28, 2017 2:03pm
      - gump
        
        We already have legitimate P.
        
        It is called Desoxyn and given to kids with severe cases of ADHD.
        
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        August 28, 2017 4:10pm
      - nasska
        
        AKA kiddy speed. Seemingly it’s okay to push diluted meth into kids but cannabis for adults is the Devil’s revenge.
        
        Wankers!
        
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        August 28, 2017 5:09pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Just another example of how chemicals cannot be all bad. In fact, they are devoid of moral qualities.
        
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        August 28, 2017 5:16pm
      - stigie
        
        Quite amazing how some people on here and elsewhere lump P and Cannabis together for their own amusement ..?
        So far apart in chemical harm and harm to others !~
        No one has ever died from Cannabis overdose.
        
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        August 28, 2017 5:51pm
      - nasska
        
        But you miss the point stigie. They have ENJOYED something that didn’t involve God, 19th Century morality or alcohol.
        
        Such behaviour borders on sacrilege & must be immediately extinguished before others hear about it & tell the know it all, conservative rulers of our lives to stuff off!
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:11pm
      - Rachael Membery
        
        Actually quality control is an issue and I would imagine is the principle behind methadone availability for those addicted to heroin.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:52pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Crawl back under your rock, MakefeebleMinded.
      That is a valid question Lucia to which I don’t have the answer, but logically it must be a degree of both. But when kids start on it before or during their teens, it has to have a psychotic effect – maybe the high incidence of maori youth has its origins there, particularly up north where that problem is rife.
      
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      August 28, 2017 2:08pm
      - mikenmild
        
        No, I won’t. Make me, you stupid old cunt.
        
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        August 28, 2017 4:39pm
      - realityczech
        
        “Make me, you stupid old cunt.”
        
        Stay classy.
        
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        August 28, 2017 5:41pm
  - KKKKatee
    
    Agree. And all the crap that goes on social media as well. Until people connect the dots – drugs = suicide, nothing will change. What the hell is wrong with people I ask myself. My husband is a bit of a socialist and can’t see the connection between drug abuse and suicude. Thank goodness he’s not blaming the Govt on behalf of every suicide victim. Heck, I discovered through Papers Past a relative who had cut his throat. Prob in the late 1800’s. My point is that suicide has always been around – just more do it these days. An awful tragedy for the families concerned I concur.
    
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    August 28, 2017 2:16pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Have guess as to which drug is most commonly linked with suicide. Hint: it’s not cannabis or methamphetamine.
      
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      August 28, 2017 4:37pm
  - realityczech
    
    Don the Kiwi correlation is not causation. Maybe people with mental health issues tend to seek drugs more than others do ?
    
    It is probably a mixture of things in reality.
    
    http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
    
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    August 28, 2017 5:30pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Right Rcz.
      Check my response to Lucia, and her comment.
      Maybe we need to research the answer to that question – but there is no doubt that at whatever point of the dilemma , drugs are involved.
      
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      August 28, 2017 5:48pm
- VicParking
  
  If you believe the failing newspaper then you will believe anything. We you go for a walk watch out you dont fall off the edge of the earth.
  
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  August 28, 2017 2:12pm
- rangitoto
  
  Looking at the chart, the numbers per 100,000 have been fairly static. They have blipped back up over the last year to near the levels of the KKKlarkenfuhrer government.
  
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  August 28, 2017 4:39pm
Lance

A wee giggle I used have was when I used to state to fervent dope users “dope makes you paranoid”
The reply was usually loud and expletive laden that “DOPE DOES NOT MAKE ME PARANOID”.
Complete with veins popping out of their neck and red face.
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August 28, 2017 2:01pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Right Lance.
  I’m sure you’ve seen our good buddy griff – our resident MJ expert – explode into expletives on a regular basis, but usually in the afternoon after toking a few since brecky. 😉
  
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  August 28, 2017 2:04pm
  - mikenmild
    
    How do you know that? Is it a guess based on the number of whiskies you’ve had today?
    Drunken old sot.
    
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    August 28, 2017 4:40pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      I don’t drink whisky, Iamboygen (alias MM)
      
      Enjoy a beer, a bit of red wine, and the occasional R & C – but never before 4.00 pm.
      
      What’s your excuse?
      
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      August 28, 2017 5:52pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Is that why your comments make more sense in the evening, once you’ve been at the communion wine?
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:28pm
Harriet

Someone went and spray painted “….There’s no pride in genocide……change the date…” on a monument of capt Cook in Sydney. This happened a few days after the General Lee matter. And a couple of councils have just announced they ‘Aren’t Celebrating Strayla Day This Year’ so the federal government have taken away their right to give out citizenships at ceremonies. This has been building up since Rudd said Sorry.

I don’t know who it was but some prominent person has just announced that “Some leading Aboriginals are now professional mourners.” 😎
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August 28, 2017 2:24pm
- sooty
  
  They are not the only professional mourners.
  
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  August 28, 2017 2:58pm
Steve (North Shore)

Today in Hawaii (it is Sunday) Man this place is awesome. So at 3.50pm NZ time the state sector employees can drool over this.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rokfrj10oci8xc8/Aston%20Waikiki.JPG?dl=0 (where we are staying)
Sunrise on the plane this morning:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h8peiwfny5cc7sj/Sunrise%20on%20plane.jpg?dl=0
And Water Soccer:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbvua8zcfdk61bx/Watersoccer.JPG?dl=0
Eat your hearts out
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August 28, 2017 3:50pm
- Longknives
  
  Nice Steve! I actually stayed at that same Hotel on my Honeymoon a few years back- Had a great wee poolside bar from memory (The friendly bartender made some fearsome cocktails!)
  Loved Hawaii! Would like to go back sometime…
  
  *Also had a star-struck moment in the Airport Lounge on the way home when I met our gracious host DPF!
  
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  August 28, 2017 4:44pm
waikatogirl

Grey and raining here Steve.
Enjoy the sunshine before your return to the NZ weather! ?
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August 28, 2017 4:31pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Sorry, I’m off to Alaska on Aug 29 for 26 days of fun, then back to Honolulu for 4 days.
  There’s a good chance it may be spring in NZ
  
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  August 28, 2017 6:39pm
sooty

Labour to introduce a $25 dollar a day tourist tax.
How are they going to charge for this?
Who decides if you are a tourist.
You could be here for business, etc.
An other job for a working group.
Lets do this.
What ever it is.
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August 28, 2017 4:36pm
- mikenmild
  
  Have you met many tourists who didn’t pass through customs and immigration?
  
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  August 28, 2017 4:42pm
- MCos
  
  I think you’ll find it’s a visitor tax and is $25 regardless of length of stay.
  Twenty five dollars per day would be outrageous.
  
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  August 28, 2017 4:51pm
- rangitoto
  
  So Labour plan to destroy the tourism industry and well as farming. Have they announced a special tax to kill off viticulture yet ? Those scumbag wine makers exporting $1.6 billion dollars of our wine. Why aren’t they paying rich prick royalties on wine.
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:01pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Or maybe they will just ban Chardonnay exports.
    
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    August 28, 2017 5:07pm
    - itstricky
      
      How many times like do I like have to say? Chardonnay is like soooooo last century.
      
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      August 28, 2017 5:29pm
      - mikenmild
        
        You don’t expect him to try spelling Sauvignon Blanc, Pinot Gris or Gewürztraminer, do you?
        To a lifelong Lion Red drinker, Chardonnay still seems impossibly exotic.
        Remember the good old days when the only wine was ‘dry’ or ‘medium’? Much simpler.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:32pm
      - rangitoto
        
        Just like your failed ideology then.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:51pm
  - Longknives
    
    We don’t need Tourists or Farming Rangitoto!
    As long as we have the Green’s money printer and Saint Jacinda’s wonderful smile what could possibly go wrong??
    
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    August 28, 2017 5:25pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Magic beans would help, too.
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:32pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Labour are tourists in the current political climate.
  Any Party that just wishes they were in Govt is a tourist, like just looking.
  Let’s do this.
  Do fucking WHAT?
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:12pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Fuck NZ for the small number of people who actually pay tax, not receive it…
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:49pm
sooty

Lorde the singer, went to the MT V awards and danced. By all accounts not very well. Would be like Marverlous Izzie reciting poetry at the rugby.
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August 28, 2017 4:46pm
- itstricky
  
  And… ?
  
  This is the bit where you take over the banal, boring, MSM and provide Entertainment news on KB?
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:11pm
- Longknives
  
  Ha Ha Lorde ‘I’m so ashamed to be White’ is a worse dancer than she is a singer.
  Utterly bloody awful- Good to see her getting slammed in the Media for it as well…
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:23pm
- JibberJabber
  
  A cunning ploy so she couldn`t be accused of lip-syncing.
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:56pm
nasska

The election approaches & the news of Princess Jacinda’s elevation to Prime Minister in Waiting has been spun in every way possible. One cannot help but be concerned for the hacks of the MSM who must be scraping the bottom of the barrel for easy sycophantic questions to ask the one they have anointed to rule over us.

nasska to the rescue! I’ve prepared a few more vacuous queries which can be answered by stock platitudes or bumper stickers guaranteed to contain no facts or financial costings:

1) How did you feel when you internship at the fish & chip shop drew to an end?

2) Describe your emotions after listening to the last Budget.

3) Nasty Paula once told you to “zip it sweety”. Understandably this would have been an incredibly tearful occasion but can you share with NZ how your subsequent therapy helped the healing process?

4) Tell us about your first kitten.

5) What changes to the furnishings & décor of the Beehive do you intend to make after the election?

6) Can you share with our readers the burden that your wonderfulness imposes on your day to day life.

Perhaps others maybe able help our hard working & unbiased Fourth estate in their ceaseless quest for truth. //
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August 28, 2017 5:03pm
- gump
  
  Nasty Paula? I guess you must have heard the rumours as well.
  
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11885404
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:50pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    That you fuck the dead, yeah I heard those rumours…
    
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    August 28, 2017 8:51pm
krazykiwi

What a waste of public money: Six finalists named for Wellington’s Low Carbon Challenge, with $45,000 funding.

Carbon is the cornerstone of organic life. You and I are 18% carbon. Carbon dioxide is plant-food, and more is net beneficial to human existence.

There is zero evidence of a causative relationship between increased atmospheric carbon dioxide and negative outcomes for humankind.

So why the !@#$%# this vacuous notion of ‘low-carbon’ gets traction is quite beyond me.
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August 28, 2017 5:07pm
- mikenmild
  
  Are you really that ignorant?
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:13pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    No. Are you?
    
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    August 28, 2017 5:18pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Ignorant? Perhaps. There’s lots I still have to learn. One thing I’ve mastered though, is to not expect an intelligent comment from you.
    
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    August 28, 2017 5:38pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Perhaps I should have said ‘willfully ignorant’.
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:17pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        QED
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:19pm
  - Longknives
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqgHFcmAOc
    
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    August 28, 2017 6:31pm
- itstricky
  
  Going to live on Venus, then, are we?
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:14pm
- realityczech
  
  It’s to score points through virtue signalling. It is also used as social marker to be accepted by a certain group.
  
  Take milky for example, he is desperate to be accepted by smug white middle class pricks who’s entire life is consumed by shallow materialism and image. The sworn enemies of sincerity and reason.
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:46pm
  - mikenmild
    
    And the source of your desperation, Kea?
    
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    August 28, 2017 5:53pm
    - realityczech
      
      Another “Kea” milky ? You sure its not a “nazi” or a “troll” ?
      
      You really are a sad broken thing.
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:02pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Well, sometimes I’m not sure if even you can tell when you are realityczech, Rodney Randall, JasonJohns or whoever. Or just plain old Kea.
        But you go on doing what you do best. I’ll always uptick you, so that you know at least one of your fans is in on the joke.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:12pm
krazykiwi

The Herald hyperventilates:

There is overwhelming support for a water tax in New Zealand even if it means higher costs for consumers, a new poll shows.

The Herald-ZB Kantar TNS online survey shows that 70 per cent of people agree that commercial water users should pay a royalty to help fund the clean-up of waterways.

Lying, duplicitous media.

This isn’t what Labour is proposing.

They are proposing an unspecified level of tax on some commercial water users, which will be then paid to Maori.

Edit: Ah, a self-selecting poll. No doubt Labour’s sock puppets have been busy
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August 28, 2017 5:16pm
- itstricky
  
  The Herald hyperventilates
  
  You might hyperventilate if you lived on Venus.
  
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  August 28, 2017 5:35pm
Fletch

The guide from Family first which tells you where each political party stands on the major issues like abortion, sex education, euthanasia, drugs, etc

http://valueyourvote.org.nz/2017-general-election/VALUE%20YOUR%20VOTE%202017%20FINAL.pdf
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August 28, 2017 6:06pm
- realityczech
  
  None of which are major issues to anyone.
  
  Unless you considered the power to impose your views on others by force of the state a major issue.
  
  Mind your own business.
  
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  August 28, 2017 6:10pm
  - Fletch
    
    The State is already doing that. In the smacking referendum 87.95% opposed making smacking a legal offence. And gay marriage, which around 78% of New Zealand opposed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQL9iho5hm4
    
    So who is imposing what on whom? It sure looks like the people didn’t get to choose. It looks like you’re suggesting that I “mind my own business”, get out of the way, and let Govt do what it thinks is best for all of us.
    
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    August 28, 2017 6:31pm
    - nasska
      
      So how’s your gay marriage that you were forced into by the state turning out Fletch?
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:33pm
      - mikenmild
        
        High time we simply repealed the Marriage Act and stopped pretending the government should regulate personal relationships.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:46pm
      - Fletch
        
        The only reason that government regulates marriage is because of the welfare of children – eg, to regulate, from a social point of view, the obligations and responsibilities attendant upon procreation. It doesn’t care how strong people’s feeling are for one another as a reason why they should be together or not.
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:05pm
      - mikenmild
        
        What a load of nonsense. You seriously think that the government can only support child welfare by licensing who can live with whom?
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:12pm
      - Fletch
        
        If children are raised in a proper family with a mother and father, it’s more likely the govt won’t have to shell out for child welfare, orphanages, the DPB and the like. That’s one of the points. Think of how much money would be saved.
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:13pm
      - mikenmild
        
        And you claim that only your religion’s prescribed form of a ‘family’ counts?
        As for your economic argument, we could save a lot more if we only allowed selected individuals to have children at all. Abort any unauthorised foetuses.
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:19pm
    - realityczech
      
      Straight Christians can still have straight Christian marriages. So why does it matter ?
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:34pm
      - Fletch
        
        You may as well use the arguments –
        
        “Don’t like slavery, don’t own slaves.”
        “Don’t like rape, don’t rape anyone.”
        “Don’t like child abuse, don’t abuse a child.”
        
        Just because I am not directly involved in an immorality means that I think it is OK for society to make things legal that are immoral like abortion and same-sex marriage – things which will eventually affect me or future generations.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:37pm
      - realityczech
        
        I see what you did there. You slippery little Christian you 🙂
        
        The difference is one is imposing something on another [slavery] the other is not [gays getting married].
        
        In fact it is you demanding things be imposed be people.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:41pm
      - Fletch
        
        The difference is one is imposing something on another [slavery] the other is not [gays getting married].
        
        There is no difference.
        This especially holds true in America where a Christian photographer, a cake maker, the owner of a venue, are not allowed to refuse to service to a gay wedding because it is now considered discrimination and the law can come down hard (and does).
        
        The law demands that even those who oppose such unions be forced against their will to participate.
        I have a huge collection of links somewhere of stories regarding people this has happened to.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:45pm
      - mikenmild
        
        As it happens, Fletch, I no more believe that bakers should be compelled to provide services to gay people than I think shop owners should be obliged to tolerate dogs or Jews.
        But your sense of ‘morality’ amuses me. Did you get it from a book?
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:48pm
      - Fletch
        
        Yep, it’s called The Bible.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:50pm
      - realityczech
        
        I am on the side of the Christian photographer, cake maker and the owner of a venue – on that one.
        
        You should not be able to force your Christian nonsense on others. They should not be able to force their sinful shenanigans on you 🙂
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:51pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Straight Christians can still have straight Christian marriages. So why does it matter?
        
        Let’s say we re-defined citizenship such that every visitor to NZ was automatically granted citizenship.
        
        It wouldn’t worry you, right? Because you’re already a citizen.
        
        Same logic applies.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:53pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Not really. Immigration and citizenship affects those already here. Gay marriage doesn’t affect anyone else.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:56pm
      - Fletch
        
        Let’s say we re-defined citizenship such that every visitor to NZ was automatically granted citizenship.
        
        It wouldn’t worry you, right? Because you’re already a citizen.
        
        Same logic applies.
        
        No, because it is not just me personally that if affects. As far as automatic citizenship, we’re talking lost jobs for citizens already here, more taxation to cover the free health care they will also receive, not to mention all the strains on housing, motorways and other infrastructure. It’s hard enough to create housing now for the people already here. These are things that people just don’t consider.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:59pm
      - mikenmild
        
        So you got your morality from the Bible, Fletch?
        Why have the myriad of churches issued contradictory instructions on every moral issue since the first edition?
        Is slavery wrong, for example?
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:07pm
      - GoVege
        
        It’s your opinion that same sex marriage and abortion are “evil”, Fletch.
        Why is it wrong for two people who care for each other and just happen to be the same gender, to marry?
        Abortion is an unfortunate consequence of human libido.
        Nobody should have the right to force young women and girls to bear children when they are not ready to, least of all members of the gender who will never face such a dilemma.
        
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        August 28, 2017 9:18pm
- mikenmild
  
  Did it help you to make up what some people call your mind?
  
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  August 28, 2017 6:13pm
- nasska
  
  ….”The guide from Family first”…..
  
  Also known as the Godwhacks’ guide to running other people’s lives.
  
  Pull your head in & run your own.
  
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  August 28, 2017 6:19pm
- realityczech
  
  Check out the link and see what these religious loons consider the major issues.
  
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  August 28, 2017 6:21pm
  - nasska
    
    The good news is that if they follow Motormouth McCoskrie’s advice they’ll back the Conservatives & waste their votes.
    
    It’s hard to believe that we share the country with moralistic, nosy throwbacks like these.
    
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    August 28, 2017 6:28pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Are the Conservatives still a thing?
      
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      August 28, 2017 6:35pm
      - nasska
        
        Leighton Baker is standing in Epsom….apart from that they’re invisible.
        
        Come back Colin…..all’s forgiven. 🙂
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:39pm
      - mikenmild
        
        If you’ve heard of him, nasska, then there’s every chance he could match Christine Rankin’s 1,700 votes for fifth place last time round.
        And some people would say they have no chance.
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:44pm
      - realityczech
        
        But what of the sodomites pray tell ?
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:47pm
      - nasska
        
        But keep in mind that I’m a political tragic Mike & even then I had to Google it. If he gets more votes than Waterwoman I’ll shout you a chocolate fish. 🙂
        
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        August 28, 2017 6:49pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Poor bet, nasska, Penny has a good track record of appealing to the ever-strong bewildered vote. You may as well buy me the chocolate now.
        
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        August 28, 2017 7:01pm
krazykiwi

Another irresponsible diary owner : Dairy robbed at gunpoint in New Windsor, Auckland

I’m mean seriously. Selling cigarettes?!? Let’s tax them more to stop this nonsense. Jacinda, this is your cue ….
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August 28, 2017 7:33pm
- sooty
  
  Yes lets tax the robber! That’ll fix um.
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:13pm
EAD_TWO

This is a very informative graphic of the extent and reach of those of Jewish descent in CNN, NBC and the New York Times:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/deee776a844ee2ddd5102b7c55718cc26c44d8f8f9e4d35290e2cd588dc3f8cd.jpg

I must admit not even I realised the extent of their over-representation relative to their % of the US population.
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August 28, 2017 8:39pm
- mikenmild
  
  So, what would be your solution for the Jewish problem, EAD?
  
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  August 28, 2017 8:49pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Equal representation of the Goyim in Central Banking, Hollywood, Social Sciences, Advertising, The MSM so on and so forth.
    
    The end of debt based currencies issued by private banks.
    
    Also, either multiculturalism for Israel or Goyim countries be allowed to have the same immigration policies as Israel.
    
    ?
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:01pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Oh, so you believe every profession should have ethnic representation in proportion to their numbers in society?
      Multiculturalism here too? I should have thought that you considered it a bad thing.
      
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      August 28, 2017 9:05pm
    - Jack5
      
      EAD-TWO, are currencies issued anywhere by private banks? That has long been the prerogative of central banks.
      
      Don’t tell me neo-Nazis are resurrecting social credit, a.k.a. Douglas credit.
      
      In the age of crypto-currencies – Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Ripple, etc – social credit is as quaint as the alchemists who tried to turn lead into gold.
      
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      August 28, 2017 11:15pm
- mandk
  
  But they’re not over-represented in terms of their share of talent, you meshugenah.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:02pm
Viking2

Aussie in trouble.

500 jobs gone as major Ipswich employer the Churchill Abattoir closes.

Seven hundred and fifty employees have lost jobs as two major Ipswich employers announced it will shut down.

Churchill Abattoir has confirmed it will cease operations at a cost of 500 jobs. The last day of cattle slaughter will be Thursday, September 28.

Another 250 jobs will be lost when the Steggles chicken processing factory at Wulkuraka closes.

The Churchill Abattoir closure comes after months of rumours circling the struggling facility. Company director Barry Moule said cattle shortages and high prices had devastated the beef industry.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/500-jobs-gone-as-major-ipswich-employer-the-churchill-abattoir-closes/news-story/71bbb62ec20fa95ef49494721e5ee390
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August 28, 2017 9:15pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Goveg will be happy with this
  
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  August 28, 2017 9:24pm
  - realityczech
    
    The cows will still die. They will just be stuck in trucks for longer.
    
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    August 28, 2017 9:44pm
    - GoVege
      
      No RC..we just need to get our meat sourced from plants.
      Anyone know where you get that chicken made from peas I saw on the telly a few weeks back?
      
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      August 28, 2017 10:34pm
      - realityczech
        
        “meat sourced from plants.”
        
        Bwwwwahahahahahahhah 🙂
        
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        August 28, 2017 10:48pm
  - GoVege
    
    Thanks KK…you’ve made my week.
    
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    August 28, 2017 10:32pm
RF

Jacinda is resting up as she has so much to do for mankind tomorrow.

She now has a personal assistant to keep a log of her promises as well as the 7 dwarfs who are flat out printing money to pay for them. Jam tomorrow…
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August 28, 2017 9:57pm
Jack5

Ardern has gone quiet on her republic talk.

Aunty Helen told her to shut up about it and just spring the Republic of Aotearoa on everyone when she is in power, and when the way to the presidency will be clear for Aunty Helen.
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August 28, 2017 11:09pm
- simpleton1
  
  One last shot for HC to walk on the world stage, espousing how revolutions can work in a small country.
  
  Just like the small step of dropping the Privy Council when they figure they may hold the simple majority.
  
  Republic will happen, as they also want a new constitution by Palmer and Mai Chen, etc.
  shh… their life long aims seen tantalizingly close.
  
  Do not want an upset like Brexit or Trump.
  
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  August 28, 2017 11:35pm
Jack5

A row in London. Tower Hamlets, the multikultural suburb, sends five-year-old Christian child to burqa-wearing foster parents.

Why isn’t Muslim immigration featuring in the NZ election? Do the contestants agree on what not to bring up in their campaigns?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/28/white-christian-girl-put-foster-care-non-english-speaking-muslim/
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August 28, 2017 11:17pm
- mikenmild
  
  Why isn’t Muslim immigration featuring in the NZ election?
  
  Because it is only an issue for a handful of paranoiacs wittering away in the blogosphere.
  
  Do the contestants agree on what not to bring up in their campaigns?
  
  That’s right, the fix is in. The politicians have a secret agreement not to rile up the lunatics.
  
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  August 29, 2017 6:53am
Jack5

Where are all the Kiwibloggers tonight? Someone please take the blanket off the Kea’s cage.

Anarchist thugs terrorise handful of pro-Trump demonstrators.

You won’t read anything about America’s Left-wing anarchist thuggery in our media, so here’s a link:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/5-assaulted-at-berkeley-protests-as-black-clad-anarchists-storm-rightwing-rally.html
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August 28, 2017 11:24pm
Manolo

Whatever it takes to stay alive:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/business/media/guardian-non-profit-philanthropy.html
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