General Debate 27 August 2017

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Captain Mainwaring

Love the Labour ad on TV which shows Soundbyte Cindy going on about all the wonderful things they’re going to give us, including ‘better transport’ just as she luxuriates in the back of a BMW limousine.
‘better transport’ for ME anyway, bugger the peasants.

TWO TICKS BLUE !!!
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August 27, 2017 8:01am
- Southern Raider
  
  Let them eat cake
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:29am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Jacinda Antionette?
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:57am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Power mad, and she is in la la land.
  Two Ticks Blue
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:41am
  - Gabby
    
    Tulixpu
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:20am
  - KevOB
    
    ☑️☑️
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:03pm
    - Gabby
      
      Tulixpu
      
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      August 27, 2017 2:35pm
- NK
  
  One tick blue.
  
  The other tick yellow.
  
  Or else you get Winston.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:49am
  - Gabby
    
    Tulixpupee
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:21am
- ztev
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Bills candle light ‘suppers’ are the real NZ ?
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:08am
- RF
  
  And homes for everyone.
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:17am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    There are homes for everyone; one just has to pay for them, not waste the money on beersies, the ponies and the pokies as well as perhaps living in Tuatapere and not Auckland
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:28am
- Gabby
  
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  TULIXPU !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!!
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:35am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Bit early for your particular brand of nonsense isn’t it?
    
    Down ticked you any way.
    
    You’re welcome.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:48am
- Paulus
  
  Is she not entitled to a Government BMW limo as Leader of the Opposition ?
  Helen Clark still has full access to one as all former Prime Ministers.
  Helen and Taxinda can meet in their cars and compare sizes and colours.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:46am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:02pm
  - Gabby
    
    Tulixpu
    
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    August 27, 2017 2:36pm
duggledog

Captain

It’s actually a better advert than the shithouse one with the blue shirted runners put up by National. I sure hope they didn’t pay for it.

I think this election outcome is going to be trouble, whichever way we look at it. I have tried to put my affairs in order to ride it out:

A: Labour / NZF (etc) clear and present danger. High taxing, high spending, more refugees, more legislation.

B: National / NZF, clear and present danger. Prone to collapse, resulting in (A).

Tell you what it’s one thing to go on and on about Taxinda and all her new taxes but I have no faith in National removing them if they were elected again in three years time.
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August 27, 2017 8:02am
- gorse
  
  Won’t be able to, as the spending that will be initiated will be too high. Look out for free tertiary education this week
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:15am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Agree just like student loans and WFF how the hell would you reverse $8 doctors visits
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:30am
  - Southern Raider
    
    And Jacinda still has a month to create more generational welfare schemes
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:31am
    - Nostalgia-NZ
      
      The blue shirted runners is an excellent ad, might not appeal to the 13% with racist problems but do to the middle of the pack.
      
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      August 27, 2017 8:37am
      - Camryn
        
        The blue runners are fine. The other runners tripping up is flimsy slapstick and undermines National’s message as being the serious option.
        
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        August 27, 2017 8:43am
- Happychappy
  
  Is it any different than you continually whinging about National. Yesterday it was policy about TV stations and Radio NZ with your cut the funding rage and if National had done what you want you would have changed your mind and called National dictators. Same old duggledog run with the hares and hunt with the hounds.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:22am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    I’ll see your
    “run with the hares and hunt with the hounds” and I’ll raise you one
    
    “All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing” plus
    
    “In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is an act of revolution and you know we’re being lied to all day, every day – the deceit is truly universal. Duggledog is just saying it the way it is.
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:31am
    - Happychappy
      
      Well go vote for your Messiah then no one is stopping you and it is my opinion just like yours. I am a big boy DP and can take criticism but that doesn’t mean we have to believe the shit you preach.
      
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      August 27, 2017 8:46am
      - ztev
        
        They say the crowds are the biggest since Muldoons hey day
        cant be much in it ?
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:09am
    - Viking2
      
      Watched Q+A this morning. Talking of barefaced liars I’d say that Chinese Twyford is right up there with his lying. Perhaps he simply doesn’t understand 1 to 10, Lord knows but he was spitting out the lies without any real challenge from the host. Perhaps she didn’t recognize them. Faulty homework.
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:47am
      - Liberty
        
        What an appalling program. Twyford once again full of bull shit.
        To give balance. There is four professional pinkos.
        
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        August 27, 2017 12:39pm
- PhilBest
  
  Sadly Duggledog and Gorse are correct the way National’s trajectory of the last 9 years is.
  
  What they lack the courage to touch, are firstly, “successful bribes” set up by Labour. Look at WFF. Their failure to articulate the argument for reform, means that taxes must remain high and furthermore the economy dies a death of 1000 cuts through the perverse incentives and their effect on productivity. Our economy could have been growing at an impressive rate in these “good times” and more of a buffer could have been built up for the bad times that are coming.
  
  Secondly, National lacks the courage to argue against anything that the PC talking heads in the media are for, even if NZ-ers are overwhelmingly against it – look at the anti-smacking legislation. Craven submission to the PC machine also explains National’s stance on the global warming fraud, the Treaty fraud, the urban planning fraud, the urban train-set and trams fraud, and much more.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:23am
  - Southern Raider
    
    WFF is easy to fix. All people should care about is how much cash ends up in the bank account, not where it comes from and how it is manipulated.
    
    Remove WFF and a whole lot of subsidises and have a zero tax bracket instead
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:32am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  I’m getting worried by all the ‘groupthink’ going on in KB these days. dog You seem to have correctly diagnosed the options and because KBs don’t like to hear the things that don’t fit with their ‘feelings’ they downtick.
  
  We’re stuck in the Swamp cycle that the US has had for decades (ie choice between shit Dems or shit Repubs) – and look at what voter disaffection has birthed in the US now!
  
  As little as we like the prospect, do we want to continue to pretend that we’re not heading in the same direction? As Churchill so eloquently put it “Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them”.
  
  Why would NZ want to repeat the USA’s mistake?
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:26am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Party vote ACT
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:33am
    - Shawn Herles
      
      “Party vote ACT”
      
      I don’t vote for Liberals. 🙂
      
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      August 27, 2017 10:11am
      - Southern Raider
        
        How is the Conservative Party doing for you?
        
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        August 27, 2017 11:15am
    - Scorpion
      
      Party vote ACT
      
      open borders to Terrorists
      
      Destruction of NZ
      
      I call them the
      ACT like D heads Party
      
      because they are basically D heads
      
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      August 27, 2017 1:20pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        Who you going to vote for skorpie ?
        We don’t have a viable utter nutter party at the moment .
        They seem to self destruct when the meds run out.
        
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        August 27, 2017 1:35pm
      - Southern Raider
        
        Have you thought of selling the drugs you take
        
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        August 27, 2017 1:42pm
      - Scorpion
        
        NOT
        NATIONAL SOCIALIST
        NOT
        LABOUR SOCIALIST
        NOT
        GREEN SOCIALIST
        NOT the
        ACT LIKE DICK HEADS
        Either
        ……….
        
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        August 27, 2017 2:35pm
      - realityczech
        
        Scorpy what should we do about all this though ?
        
        You are not offering solutions. We all know things could be better, but we need ideas. You give us nothing new.
        
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        August 27, 2017 2:38pm
  - PhilBest
    
    There is no worse manifestation of this, than the “KB consensus” that while Helen Clark was guilty in 2008 of having presided over an emerging crisis in housing affordability and bubble-type risk in urban property speculation, for which her ideological allies in the councils were to blame; somehow John Key and Nick Smith are saints and beyond criticism over where the country has ended up since then.
    
    KB is part of the problem. The consensus should have been pressure, pressure, pressure on National from day 1 in 2008, to “fix this as your top priority”. By the end of term ONE, the KB consensus should have been asking daily, “why has John Key sold his country down the river on this issue”?
    
    Both Kiwibloggers and the broader NZ public, in so far as they are similar, have not distinguished themselves on this issue, either for basic common sense or on the famous “fair go” ethic.
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:35am
    - Gruffydd
      
      We live under MMP.
      If Neo liberal is your thing vote ACT.
      As an ACT supporter I know that many do not get MMP and have the political direction of a mouse on LSD.
      
      A vote for national is a vote for the center right.
      
      A vote for whinny is a vote for populism…
      Whatever sounds good on the day.
      
      A vote for the Conservatives is a vote for gooey love poems and litigation.
      
      If you want a less tax and more directed spending focus from government vote ACT.
      
      If you want your god or whatever strange idea you back form a party and find 5% who share your ideals.
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:05am
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “If you want your god or whatever strange idea you back form a party and find 5% who share your ideals.”
        
        Your side already has Griff. Vote Green for Gaia theocracy and end the apocalypse of global warming! 🙂
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:13am
      - JeffW
        
        We can only wish that National were centre-right.
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:19am
      - Gruffydd
        
        National is center right .
        They get 45 odd percent of the vote .
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
        What you mean is you would rather wish NZ is more right
        The question being what do you think that Right means?
        
        We have many that attack national is being to far left.
        Just maybe they are too far right .
        
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        August 27, 2017 11:26am
      - Viking2
        
        National centre right. Many of them are left footers so how that qualifies them as centre right puzzles me.
        Key was without doubt centre left and while a popular guy (that’s what he wanted to be), was not one who made or wanted anything other than to stay in power and did whatever was needed to that end. He failed miserably after he was first voted in to grasp the nettle and do what he should have done and things that campaigned on. The left footers got at him.
        So we now have more socialism that we had before he arrived on the scene.
        Explain to us how that becomes centre right.
        
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        August 27, 2017 12:02pm
    - Viking2
      
      Unfortunately for you according to Twatford this morning an Q+A the housing problem was all Nationals fault and didn’t start with Clark.
      
      That’s why Labour refused to change the RMA isn’t it? There was no housing problem until just lately. There was of course. It was one where we had an excess of houses in many places because people left NZ in droves because of Labour’s policy to destroy the so called rich pricks and business people. People forget that as little as 4 years ago in many places you had a struggle to rent out your rental house and a struggle to sell one you owned at a reasonable price.
      Its only recent that all this bullshit has happened and those that destroyed houses and didn’t pay their rent have had to live in their cars. Pity they didn’t have to live under a hedge. Might teach them to be better tenants.
      
      Socialists have such short memories.
      Our immigration will reverse again if by bad fortune Labour gets into power again.
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:56am
      - RF
        
        Twit Twyford is just a prat who unfortunately projects a smarmy attitude when trying to make a point.
        
        I hear he is a very irritating person who in his eyes is never wrong.
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:04pm
    - Rachael Membery
      
      And had an earthquake, if all ChCh rebuilds were counted I wonder what the numbers would be off the available properties for rental or sale, let alone the overall effects of the G.F.C.
      Twyford was going on about the Government selling state houses, they have not disappeared other than to social housing providers or ear marked for redevelopment or overhaul due to P.
      There are also other houses disappearing from availability though, every roading corridor that has existing housing along its route also contributes in the name of progress.
      I found Twyford very annoying on Q + A.
      
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      August 27, 2017 12:32pm
      - Liberty
        
        Annoying you are being nice.
        More like a total slime-ball.
        
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        August 27, 2017 12:44pm
      - waikatogirl
        
        The number of elderly moving into the huge blooming market of retirement villages will have freed up numerous houses for those new home owners. Swings and round-a-bouts…
        
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        August 27, 2017 1:25pm
  - mikenmild
    
    When did Churchill say that?
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:44am
    - CJames
      
      The actual quote is credited to George Santayana in 1905, so many people after then said it, most without attribution. It is likely the Churchill said some thing similar, but he always improved them.
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:01am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Who’s a pretty boy then?
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:14am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Grant
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:36am
    - Kimbo
      
      Same date and time as that quote of Churchill’s that EAD has cited. Was an especially prolific day for the 20th Century’s most quotable Englishman! 😉
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:20am
      - MCos
        
        Most quoted, maybe; most quotable would be Oscar Wilde!
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:17am
      - Kimbo
        
        Oscar Fingal O’Flahertie Wills Wilde was not…English! 😉
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:36am
  - realityczech
    
    “I’m getting worried by all the ‘groupthink’ going on in KB these days”
    
    It is not actually thinking. It is just an appeal to popularity.
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:18am
- RF
  
  Bring back the dancing Cossacks !!!!!!!!
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:32pm
timmydevo

Psalm 118:24
New King James Version (NKJV)

This is the day the Lord has made;
We will rejoice and be glad in it.
—
Have a terrific Sunday everyone!
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August 27, 2017 8:03am
- JibberJabber
  
  I think you mean the New Queen James Version, raging poofter that he was.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:08am
  - mikenmild
    
    How do you think the alleged sexuality of King James affected the integrity of the bible translation project he commissioned?
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:45am
    - JibberJabber
      
      Just pointing out the anomalies in the Whited Sepulchre that is the Christian fantasists and their holey book.
      But by all means, ignore the evidence, you know you want to.
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:02am
  - Nukuleka
    
    Snide and unnecessary- you had personal acquaintance did you?
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:00am
    - Kimbo
      
      Now, now. Nukuleka. You may want to have a read of the foreword to the 1611 Authorised Version and its admonition of papists…
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:23am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Now why wasn’t I taught interesting historical facts like that?
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:31am
    - Kimbo
      
      George Villiers the Duke of Buckingham was James I’s alleged…ahem, paramour.
      
      Other gay monarchs of England include William II and Edward II…who allegedly was done in after his abdication by a red hot poker up the jacksie.
      
      And Richard I, Cœur de Lion was probably bi-sexual, allegedly with a penchant for young boys. But then there was a phase in scholarship and/or popular paperbacks when “everyone in history was gay” so you have to watch it with some of the claims.
      
      There, isn’t that so much more interesting than “1066 and all that…”! 😉
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  God-botherer alert!
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:13am
  - Gabby
    
    DON’T PANIC!!
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:38am
stigie

Are you kidding me Heather du you please me Allan..?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11911188
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August 27, 2017 8:04am
- JibberJabber
  
  HdPA, a celebrity no less,
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/celebrity-homes/96141885
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:14am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  What a mad woman. What do she and the silly old fart she’s married to talk about at home?
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:40am
  - stigie
    
    What is there to talk about when you’re Barely Sober..?
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:46am
  - starboard
    
    Nothing..he’s always in a comatosed state lying on the lounge suite with his empty piss bottles.
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:48am
    - mikenmild
      
      I think you are just projecting from the usual state of your own pensioner bed-sit.
      
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      August 27, 2017 8:51am
      - sooty
        
        Oh! The poor woman living in a garage.
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:15am
      - starboard
        
        Geez your mums a loud snorer mm.. she sounds like a red lining Stihl 350 chainsaw. See you when you get home…and tidy ya room.
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:23am
      - Gabby
        
        The starfish family suite went on a particularly impertinent case of Rocket Fuel Malt Liquor. DAYYUM.
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:48am
      - Gruffydd
        
        look at that.
        Story has dropped his imaginary move to Thailand.
        In his mind he has added another accomplishment to go with staying after the fall of Saigon to clean up and fighting alongside of whisky three a year after they pulled out.
        He is a LEGEND
        In his own mind ….
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:02am
      - starboard
        
        Well if you must know Gwiff, I’m on the Gold Coast visiting family.
        Hows the Northland utopia going * snigger*, have you grown a full beard? Hows the crop this year?
        Got enough tinfoil?
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:14am
      - Gruffydd
        
        I grow beef story .
        Takes a couple of years from wieners to steak.
        
        Whats the tinfoil for?
        I usually cook on a gas bbq grill.
        The fat and juices that drips onto the flames gets burned adding to the flavor .
        
        As to a beard
        For the last thirty years I have used an electric trimmer number one on my head and just the blades on my face about once every month.
        Full beard never bloody itchy things .
        
        I know it is hard when your bedsit wall is the most you can ever look forward to.
        I have an interesting life that includes swapping between living at our cabins at the beach while our batch is being built and pottering around my lifestyle block.
        You should get out more
        Join an over 60’s club or something.
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:54am
  - Liberty
    
    Was the mad woman still in a cradle during the vile Clark years.
    
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    August 27, 2017 12:58pm
- PhilBest
  
  She assumes Winston would be a “master” in power because good mavericks often are good masters.
  
  I don’t think she knows much about Winston then. One of the reason so many of his former colleagues dislike him, is his notorious personal unreliability and lack of “application to the details” required in governance.
  
  Also my biggest condemnation of Winston, was his personal role in destroying the process of excellent health system reforms that Bolger and Richardson had been progressing. They should never have gone into coalition with him, they would have been better to have kept up the argument for the reform process, in opposition, and then had a mandate to continue them once the public was tired of Labour again. Then Winston and his colleagues and their shenanigans would have contributed to Labour’s downfall.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:41am
  - tf78
    
    Someone on one of the blogs mentioned that Winston only works for three months every three years – sounds about right to me.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:28am
Monique Watson

How about that. The US got to the moon first but Russia got stealth.
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August 27, 2017 8:11am
Paulus

So I am seeing and hearing – “It is time for a change” but to what ?
We will tell you after we get elected, with Winston as Prime Minister.
Getting rather frightening – but will the mature public get seduced ?
Or do we rely upon uninitiated children who have never seen Socialism action.
May be salutary for 18 months as it all unravels then shit happens.
Helen Clark as President, Taxinderella as Prime Minister and Andrew Little as Deputy Prime Minister in the new Republic of Aotearoa that you did not know was going to happen – like the withdrawal from the Privy Council.
Trust me – you will not know what is happening.
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August 27, 2017 8:19am
- PhilBest
  
  Well for all the actual argument and principles articulated by National for the last 9 years, is it any wonder that people too young to remember the necessity of Rogernomics and Ruthnomics now are suckers for a proposed return to 1972 largesse eg in welfare and tertiary education? Or don’t get it that it is all about the economy, stupid?
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:27am
- Gabby
  
  Surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:51am
stigie

Rodney Hide hits the nail square on the head in the Herald…..

“So don’t feel bad you didn’t know Labour’s tax policy – you’re not meant to.”
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August 27, 2017 8:25am
Southern Raider

Other issue is the rise of the republic discussion that Jacinda has been slowly pushing

Does she have to go to the public or is this a MP vote?

Typical socialist ideal when there is no business case to become a republic
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August 27, 2017 8:35am
- Gabby
  
  ‘Business case’. You on the piss already Sodden?
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:53am
- Viking2
  
  Well Helen’s back with nothing to do. Taxinda couldn’t advocate for Bolger so get with the program. Helen for president.
  
  FFS.
  
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  August 27, 2017 12:13pm
duggledog

The worst things that will happen under Labo:

1: Legalisation of weed. Once that’s out the gate, NZ is screwed.

2: Constitution written up by Palmer. Once that’s out the gate, NZ is double-screwed.
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August 27, 2017 8:36am
- Camryn
  
  A Palmer constitution would be the perfect uppercut to follow up on his RMA left hook… he’d finally have us out cold.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:45am
- mikenmild
  
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  These are things that keep you awake at night?
  Worrying that adults might be able to consume substances of their choice?
  Terror at the thought of a written constitution?
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:46am
  - Nukuleka
    
    You mean ‘substances of their choice’ like methamphetamine and cocaine? Or do you personally draw a line in the sand that can be washed away by the next tide of personal ‘choice’?
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:05am
    - mikenmild
      
      Why should some substances be illegal and some legal?
      You have something against adults making informed choices about how to enjoy themselves?
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:50am
      - Shawn Herles
        
        “Why should some substances be illegal and some legal?”
        
        Common sense.
        
        “You have something against adults making informed choices about how to enjoy themselves?”
        
        Nobody who uses cocaine, heroin or P is making an informed choice merely to “enjoy themselves”. They are addicts driven by a need they cannot control and using substances that will destroy their lives, damage their families, likely kill them, and which create serious social, health and crime problems. And yes the crime problems would still be there if they were legalized,
        
        I have something against liberal adolescents pretending to be adults and wanking on about “freedom and choice” when talking about hard drugs.
        
        Idiot.
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:24am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Nobody who uses ~~cocaine, heroin or P~~ alcohol is making an informed choice merely to “enjoy themselves”. They are addicts driven by a need they cannot control and using substances that will destroy their lives, damage their families, likely kill them, and which create serious social, health and crime problems.
        
        It actually works better .
        
        But to a conservative it does not matter because the argument is .
        Drugs are bad.
        Why are drugs bad?
        Because they are illegal.
        Why are they illegal?
        Because they are bad.
        What about alcohol ?
        Alcohol is legal so it is good.
        But it does far more harm .
        Alcohol’s harm can be ignored because it is legal.
        
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        August 27, 2017 11:09am
      - mikenmild
        
        No surprise that Shawn continues to defy rational approaches to problems.
        
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        August 27, 2017 11:11am
      - Gabby
        
        Well, some substances are manufactured by concerns that are happy to donate clean money to political organisations. Some substances are manufactured by dodgy types who don’t even pay tax consultants.
        
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        August 27, 2017 11:33am
  - Brigitte
    
    No, terror at the thought that the Constitution would be written by someone who’s been up all night on weed.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:10am
    - mikenmild
      
      I think it’s a pretty safe bet that more legislators have been drunk n Parliament that stoned…
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:51am
      - Viking2
        
        The margin would be slim though MM.
        Then of course there are the ones that are perpetually in a fog, totally without brain function.
        They all have them. Used to be MP’s but now List MP’s.
        
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        August 27, 2017 12:16pm
DifferentPerspective

NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM

Sword wielding “Ah La Who Snackbar” shouting terrorist at Buckingham Palace has nothing to do with Islam clearly.
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August 27, 2017 8:38am
- VicParking
  
  Of course not. How could he be he is from Luton, drove a blue Toyota Prius and only brandished a “4 foot” pocket knife. Jokes aside he has been charged under the Terrorism Act.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:46am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I lived in Luton, it was pretty terrible, turned the headlights on at midday as the town was so dark
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:43am
    - Gabby
      
      You shouldn’t be driving with cataracts puller goon.
      
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      August 27, 2017 10:41am
- Scorpion
  
  THE CROWN of ENGLAND
  has not been English since the Norman Invasions.
  
  The People who Organised the Norman
  Conquests would have used the Moslem Armies
  instead but they could not – just yet.
  
  They also Organised the Viking Wars
  to sell Europeans into moslem Slavery.
  
  READ YOUR HISTORY
  YOU IGNORANT PIGS
  
  The Moslem Armies were Busy getting their
  A R S E S
  booted out of SPAIN and other places
  so were un available
  
  THE HEATHEN SCUM NOW
  UN LEASH THEIR HEATHEN
  ARMY on the PEOPLE OF BRITAIN
  AGAIN
  
  Taken nearly 1000 years
  But they are here backed by the same
  LOW LIFE DEAD BEAT
  SCUM of the EARTH
  
  Like the PRETENDER to the Throne
  Charlie the Tampon Sucker
  
  The British ONCE Burned that
  Corrupt SH*T HOLE Called
  
  LONDINIUM
  to the ground
  
  IT MAY YET
  
  BURN AGAIN
  
  REAP WHAT YOU SOW
  and
  PREPARE TO REAP THE WHIRLWIND
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:44pm
VicParking

The MSM ( they wont) have to get the Tooth fairy into a one on one debate with the alcohol embalmed Winston. Then we will find the true state of play between Liebour and Winston First. Currently they are keeping themselves at arms length and making sure they dont tread on each others toes.
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August 27, 2017 8:40am
- PhilBest
  
  David Seymour has suggested he and Winston be allowed to slug it out, he has suggested Winston would be “too chicken” for this, and Winston for his part says no “because Seymour is too irrelevant”.
  
  I personally would like to see it happen, and it makes sense if you are going to exclude the minor parties from the big debates, to let them duke it out among themselves separately. Voters need to get some insights into the people themselves in action.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:45am
realityczech

Jacinda Ardern’s all-time favourite election?

Well, Obama’s 2008 victory will always feel special. But closer to home? It would have to be 2005, when the contest between race-baiting National leader Don Brash and two-term Labour prime minister Helen Clark went down to the wire.

Ardern, then a 25-year-old staffer for Clark, was beside herself as early results seemed to show Brash had denied Clark her third term.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96123508/jacinda-ardern-i-didnt-want-to-work-for-tony-blair

I am getting to seriously dislike this woman.

1. Obama ran on a race card and most of his support was due to race. Under his regime we saw the return of race riots, with blacks carrying out mass killings.

2. Brash suggested we assist people based on need not race. The total opposite of being racist.

This woman is incredibly dangerous. If she gets a hold of power the damage she does could change NZ for ever, or take many many years to repair. She is at the lunatic end of the far left. She even looks like a right bitch.

This Stuff article sets a new low in bias and propaganda. Could you imagine them running this sort of uncritical gushing shit for any other party or a [gasp] man-pig ?
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August 27, 2017 8:51am
- Paulus
  
  In the Obama la la land I understand that from what I have recently read and understand that the African Americans only number 14% of the US population, but seem to make far louder noise for this number.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:55am
  - Viking2
    
    Maori are 13-15% depending on the day and the benefits.
    
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    August 27, 2017 12:19pm
NK

Labor, Greens & NZ First: “Free this, tax that”.

That’s all I hear from them. And they could easily be a government.
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August 27, 2017 8:54am
- realityczech
  
  The tax is an issue, but not my main concern.
  
  While everyone is focusing on the tax issue they are failing to consider what this zealot will do to NZ’s social cohesion and law. That is what really scares me. A lot.
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:04am
  - ztev
    
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    Talking to the wallpaper again ?
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:16am
  - NK
    
    Absolutely agree 100%. I am very worried about Peters and what damage he and his MPs could do.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:28am
    - realityczech
      
      Peter’s is the least of our worries. You have failed to step back and take in the bigger picture, instead choosing to focus on your pet hates.
      
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      August 27, 2017 10:16am
      - MCos
        
        Oh, the irony!
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:23am
Nostalgia-NZ

Terrific Wallabies/All Black game. Thought Laulala (prop) was terrific in a rejigged front row and went long minutes. While McKenzie is learning his trade and this intercept pass was a howler, as he progresses, and time becomes his ally, he won’t do such things again, also liked the way he was running for space and passing – a big step up for a running fullback. These new players are learning the ropes well. Not sure if we are missing Kaino but 2 weeks in a row holes have opened up around the ruck.
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August 27, 2017 8:55am
- calendar girl
  
  Enjoyed most of the hotly-contested test match in Dunedin. But I did wonder whether there a less ‘professional’ coach in international rugby than Michael Cheika.
  
  TV cameramen must love him, but he should learn to control his emotions. Decisions won’t always run in his direction, and it’s not good for youngsters to be watching his frequent (and futile) instant protests.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:59am
  - waikatogirl
    
    It was a great match full of drama and on the edge of your seat stuff. Nice to watch a cliff-hanger, instead of a foregone conclusion by the AB’s for a change.
    
    In the words of Fitzy, it was a game of two halves.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:56am
  - Southern Raider
    
    Worst is his after match performance.
    
    No reference to the All Blacks playing well and winning. Instead he strongly insinuated the ref (Owens is best in the world) is a cheat
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:27am
    - Kimbo
      
      His job is on the line, so he has to deflect.
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:30am
      - Nostalgia-NZ
        
        I like Cheika, he’s very real in everything he does. His quote about not wanting to be ‘gallant losers’ is a classic, that’s the sort of attitude the aussies need. So from an NZ point of view the sooner he goes the better. Rugby is about characters like Cheika who don’t back off an inch from wanting to win.
        
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        August 27, 2017 12:44pm
      - Kimbo
        
        I’m not sure you have that right. Cheika got good results when he took over at short notice and in the following year including getting to the World Cup final which they nearly swindled with a few minutes to go.
        
        However, as his approach seems primarily “motivational” (including deliberately battling the media to give his team the “under-seige” dynamic), rather than technical, or tactical/innovative, over the longer haul the environment tends to become an emotional hothouse. Graham Lowe and John Hart were the same sort of coaches, with the same sort of track record – initial dramatic success…and then a seemingly inexplicable decline…
        
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        August 27, 2017 1:42pm
  - GazzaW
    
    I agree with you CG aside from your comments re the youngsters. Cheika’s job isn’t to be a role model.
    
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    August 27, 2017 5:12pm
    - calendar girl
      
      You’re right, of course, it’s not part of the coaching job for which he earns his remuneration. But one would think that, just as a human being, he would want to avoid giving constant lessons to youngsters on how to behave petulently, even perhaps in an unsporting manner.
      
      None of us would be perfect in our reactions to some of the adversity that he experienced last evening. But equally we would expect our employers to introduce sanctions against our behaving poorly in a way that brought discredit to their business.
      
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      August 27, 2017 10:16pm
- Ross12
  
  How come SBW loses possession for the ABs so often ? So often when he was tackled there was a turnover.
  But a very good even match and great to watch.
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:27am
  - RF
    
    Ross12
    
    The question should be…..
    
    why do they persist with SBW
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:54am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Yes, SBW is overated and cost the AB’s much possession. Time for him to go.
      
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      August 27, 2017 10:52am
- KevinH
  
  A game that went down to the wire, 5 mins out from fulltime and the Aussies had a well deserved lead but Smith crossed to close out the game for the AB’S.
  The Aussies stepped up a gear and took their chances and showed that indeed there is a weakness in the AB’S around the ruck which they exploited.
  The Aussies, despite the scoreboard, were the better team on the night. They showed a lot of attacking flair and commitment and were unlucky not to come away with a win.
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:28am
  - MCos
    
    The Aussies won, but we scored more points.
    Same as usual.
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:26am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Wasn’t Smith, it was Barrett.
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:37am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    If Foley had brought his kicking boots, it would have been a deserved win to Oz.
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:51am
- Southern Raider
  
  As for SBW…..oh well
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:25am
  - RF
    
    He was booed by the crowd so time to hang up his boots.
    
    Talk about being booed, anyone heard if D. Carter has fronted before a French Judge for his dangerous / drunk driving.
    
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    August 27, 2017 12:09pm
PhilBest

Excellent, enjoyable review of Al Gore’s latest propaganda flick, by the estimable Marc Morano:

http://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.co.nz/2017/08/marc-morano-review-of-al-gores.html

His take on it is that it “opens with a fantastic montage of completely rational comments from climate skeptics like Trump, Senator James Inhofe, John Stossel and others ridiculing climate change claims.”

Then after 90 minutes of laughably insupportable alarmism and demands for OTT political powers over your lives, the movie has a happy ending with the heroes winning:

“…The ending has a stand up and cheer moment when President Donald Trump announces the U.S. is exiting the UN climate pact. It also features Trump announcing the end to EPA “climate regulations” and reveals that former President Barack Obama’s global warming agenda was being dismantled. Just when you think the U.S. is doomed to give up sovereignty, and become entangled in the most expensive treaty in world history, along comes the hero of the film, Trump, restoring sanity to the U.S. domestic and international climate policy.
The movie has a satisfactory ending because with Trump the UN pact is tossed into the dustbin of history. A crowd pleasing moment for Americans….”
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August 27, 2017 8:55am
- Manolo
  
  Griff disagrees. He was watched the film three times already, and reckons it is a masterpiece from his hero Al Gore.
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:21am
  - Gruffydd
    
    Actually Manolo I have never watched any one of Gores movies.
    Why would I ?
    When you make that claim it is a way for you to avoid addressing your denial of basic physics.
    
    Phill is baying at the moon
    We NZ are in the Paris accorded and will not be pulling out.
    The EPA is constrained by legal judgements to attempt to minimize CO2 emissions
    Rhetoric from Trump does not overturn legal findings.
    
    The world is transforming to cleaner and cheaper energy.
    Get used to it or get left behind .
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:33am
wiseowl

Many fine words contributed by Duggle,DP Phil etc today.
To those criticising Winston just reflect on what National have failed to do over the last nine years.They have not adhered to their principles and sought to outdo Labour with Labour policies.They have outsmarted themselves.
Many have outlined what should have been done but National have listened to the wrong advice.
It is imperative now that we get Winston in the picture with National as the other options are too bad to contemplate.
If NZ First is not there to check National we will be in as much trouble as if Labour get the most votes.
It is National that have created this situation
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August 27, 2017 8:56am
- Southern Raider
  
  No it is imperative that Winston is sent urgently to a retirement home, his party disbanded before the election and some sense can prevail.
  
  Winston is flaky and has 1950s policies. The rest of his list are two points on the IQ scale above inbred hillbillies
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:30am
starboard

http://www.nzcpr.com/newsletter/

Interesting read. Check out ‘Bureaucrats Rule’
in this weeks edition. Again, Labourlite has done nothing to lessen the ever increasing juggernaut of clipboard carrying hi-vis wearing sticky beak do-gooders.
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August 27, 2017 8:56am
Manolo

Oh dear.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MILITARY_TRANSGENDER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-08-25-18-50-54

President Donald Trump on Friday directed the Pentagon to extend indefinitely a ban on transgender individuals joining the military, but he appeared to leave open the possibility of allowing some already in uniform to remain.
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August 27, 2017 9:17am
Steve (North Shore)

Tonight we fly out for a months hard earned holiday.
3 days in Hawaii, 26 days in Alaska, then 4 more days in Hawaii, then back home. I will vote online from some remote place as long as I can find WiFi and a printer in the Interior.
There may be some photos posted via Dropbox just to make you peasants envious.
Don’t forget, two ticks blue.
Mahalo
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August 27, 2017 9:18am
- Gabby
  
  Tulixpu.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:02am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  have fun Steve
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:53am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Don’t worry, we will. We have been before in Alaska’s summer – just like our summer, except no stars, daylight 24/7.
    The purpose this time is to see the Aurora Borealis.
    Have friends there which really helps
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:52pm
    - rangitoto
      
      You need dark to see the aurora.
      
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      August 27, 2017 4:34pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      Why KB needs temp name change function . . .
      
      Steve (Alaska)
      
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      August 27, 2017 6:52pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        Sounds good, I may do that lol!
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:27pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Why don’t you put in a special vote? I thought you could do that a month out?
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:57am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    I can’t until Sept 6th, which means downloading a form, making my choices, signing is then photograph or scan it, then upload or email to the Electoral poeple
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:55pm
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:16pm
  - Gabby
    
    Tulixpu
    
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    August 27, 2017 2:44pm
Surely Knott

The majority of the NZ Herald comments on Taxcinda’s cheap doctors visits policy announcements are “who is going to pay for that?” , and “excessive tax will hurt the economy”. Around 20 positive labour comments on the article from Neale Jones in the comment section who shares the same name as Andrew Littles chief of staff, but doesn’t seem to put this job description on his profile.
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August 27, 2017 9:27am
- Paulus
  
  Taxinda will pay for it by cancelling the Tax changes from the 2017 budget due to take effect in April.
  This of course includes the cancellation of the National Super increases due under the tax changes.
  Sorry Supers – your fired.
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:00am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    If she gets in power and messes with Supers it will see Labour out for another 12 years
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:58pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Winnie will never agree to it. Guaranteed.
      
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      August 27, 2017 5:08pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Apparently this is being funded by cancelling the family tax credit scheme which is $26 per week
  
  Media doesn’t seem to want to raise this.
  
  Save $10 for a doctors visit once every 6 months versus an extra $1000 per annum
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:32am
- Happychappy
  
  Labour and their Leader have obviously worked out that the way forward and into power is to follow Bill English around NZ and what ever he has promised double it and hope it’s enough to get elected. One of their members has obviously found a money tree to pay for all their promises.
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:30pm
RF

Last evening had some interesting conversations with a group of what I would call average kiwis.

The sudden rise of socialist cindy was discussed and it was agreed she is a smiling knife who is very skilled in communications. She dispatched King very quickly and then waited for Angry to stumble. Then she struck with a shiv between the ribs.
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August 27, 2017 9:29am
- starboard
  
  Cindy had a great teacher.
  
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  August 27, 2017 9:40am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Cindy has a great teacher.
    Fixed it for you
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:46am
- Inandout
  
  Cindy hasn’t the stamina to remain in top form, believe me she is merely a front for the Clark/Robertson drivers. Clark has ice in her veins and is ruthless, Robertson carries out her orders dutifully.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:32am
starboard

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/96061529/christie-marceaus-family-devastated-after-killer-granted-supervised-leave-from-ward

What a pathetic ‘justice’ system NZ has. Pathetic.
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August 27, 2017 9:44am
Ross12

When is a bond trading ban not a bond trading ban ?
When Goldman Sucks have a bad trading position as a result of the ban.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-26/goldman-unexpectedly-exempt-venezuela-bond-trading-ban
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August 27, 2017 9:56am
mikenmild

Well done, Black Ferns. World Cup champions after a thriller against England.
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August 27, 2017 9:57am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Fantastic second half from the Black Ferns forwards. A very well deserved victory. Doubtless the usual suspects will be along soon to ridicule the result and the sport.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:14am
  - mikenmild
    
    Well, I found it a great watch. These women are very skilled and committed rugby players.
    There was a good column here from Melodie Robinson about women’s rugby:
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/sports/26-08-2017/nz-rugby-needs-to-put-its-money-where-its-mouth-is-on-womens-rugby/
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:18am
    - Paulus
      
      I presume that the team are to be the mainstay of the new recruits to the NZ SAS, now agreed upon.
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:01am
      - mikenmild
        
        Sounds about as accurate as any of your other presumptions.
        
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        August 27, 2017 11:16am
    - SPC
      
      Farrah Palmer has called for the Black Ferns to become professional, as England currently are.
      
      The problem is they are the only professional team and they have just decided to end this arrangement and put the money into development of women’s 7’s which is lagging behind their men.
      
      There is a 6 Nations for women up north each year (weekend to weekend games with England vs 5 teams of amateurs) but the BF have only played 10 or so tests the past 3 years. And it would be hard to get amateurs to tour here more often.
      
      Best options would be a female Lions arrangement to add to their domestic schedule (play 2 tests vs Oz then 2 tests vs BF on a 4 test tour every 4 years). And join Oz and have regular 4 team tournaments with Canada and USA each year (SA and Argentine are too weak).
      
      And some sort of international league table whereby nations play each other home or away over 4 years to create seedings (via a league table ranking) for World Cups. This would incentivise funding by other nations.
      
      Other developments would be NPC home and away (April-May/June first round, Sept/Oct second round).
      
      And an U20 world tournament as with men to develop/promote the game at school level and have a U 20 provincial comp Sept/Oct).
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:17am
  - 3-coil
    
    It’s a shame that the NZRFU didn’t promote the Black Ferns to “All Black” status when they were renaming the NZ teams a few years back. Cf the flakey 7’s show ponies, who are an embarrassment to the title as the bumbling “All Black Sevens”.
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:33am
    - MCos
      
      You forget the sevens team was top of the heap or thereabouts for years and years.
      When it comes to the pick of the talent they have to compete with the Super teams and the NRL
      
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      August 27, 2017 2:18pm
- SPC
  
  With an England penalty try from a scrum and a lineout maul try and with the edge in the backs it was the recipe for an England win. And yet totally taken out of the game in the second half by the Black Ferns forwards holding onto possession of the ball and constantly making ground (a game won by the work rate of the loose forwards).
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:48am
Keeping Stock

So Labour is going to reverse the tax cuts, leaving most New Zealanders $26 per week worse off than they would have been had their tax been cut.

If you go to the doctor in any given week though, you’d get $10 offset, so you’ll only be $16 worse off. But who goes to the doctor every week?
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August 27, 2017 10:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Quite right KS. So if you go to the doctor twice a year you save $20, if you vote National you save $1352, less the $20 = $1332.
  Nah, I’ll pay $1332 per year to get Cindy, what other surprises is she going to have for me?
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:23am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The suprise will be the total will be as little as $1,322.00!
    
    Hold onto your hat, hurricane Taxcinda will suck as well as blow!
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:31am
- Southern Raider
  
  Most doctors visits are for children and they are already free
  
  Labour is seriously fucking people over
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:35am
- Southern Raider
  
  Also I bet the media doesn’t show the queues of patients at these low cost clinics if Labour gets in
  
  There simply isn’t enough doctors to cope with everyone turning up at the sign of the slightest sniff or cough
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:00pm
Happychappy

I bet none of the media will do a poll on whether Winston First will hold his seat in Northland that he took from National in the By Election with the help of Labour. The One News Colmar Poll has Nationals Shane Reti well ahead of Shane Jones and favorite to win that seat with National ahead of Labour 41% to 37%in the Party vote so interesting times ahead.
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August 27, 2017 10:21am
Lucia Maria

Social media can figure out more about you than you realise …

Facebook Figured Out My Family Secrets, And It Won’t Tell Me How
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August 27, 2017 10:21am
- realityczech
  
  Since you are not a church today shall we go down the pub and commit some sins for later forgiveness ?
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:23am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Already been to Mass – got up early.
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:53am
    - realityczech
      
      You must have sinned terribly. Or very well ☺
      
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      August 27, 2017 12:59pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    If you don`t sin, then Jesus died for nothing RC.
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:55am
    - realityczech
      
      Christian aren’t perfect just forgiven. I have to forgive the buggers every time I log in.
      
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      August 27, 2017 1:02pm
realityczech

Arden and the party she leads are no longer left of center. They are extreme left zealots at the lunatic fringe of politics. They have become even more bitter and twisted after all these years in the wilderness and they are out for revenge.

It concerns me that people can not see what we are facing here. This party is out to re-engineer us and our society based on fanatical ideology that is a proven failure. If it stood a chance of working I may be more relaxed about it, but that is not the situation.

The old Labour are just a brand name. We have never faced a threat as serious as this in living memory.
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August 27, 2017 10:22am
- Jack5
  
  Kea, who is this wimmun ye call ~~Adern~~ Ardern?
  
  I’ve been searching the Stuffed and Hooerald web sites for days trying to find just of whom ye speak.
  
  Not a sign of this Ardern. Are the media wimmun boycotting her, Kea?
  
  Is Ardern some fairy princess that appears only to the ~~illunatikatity,~~ the ~~feminunlunitatity,~~ the ~~sheilaminati,~~ fuck it, to the sisterhood?
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:57am
  - realityczech
    
    Jacky I don’t give a shit how the mule toothed communists name is written. I just don’t want it in power. She will spread misery to all.
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:28am
- Paulus
  
  It is Helen Clark’s UTU against New Zealand.
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:03am
- Gabby
  
  Where’s Pullya czitty? She picking out lippy for the big day?
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:09am
  - Jack5
    
    Gabby, I apologise to you, one of the far-Left speakers on the Kiwiblog forum.
    
    A good wimmun of my acquaintance, alerted by this Kiwiblog discussion, has enlightened me about the ~~Adern~~ Ardern magic fairy princess who appears only to wimmun.
    
    She tells me Princess Ardern’s schooling was a BACHELOR OF COMMUNICATIONS degree from the hallowed University of Waikato. Wow!
    
    This explains the media wimmun’s rapture. It’s not just that Ardern’s a magic Red Princess. It’s that she’s been bathed in the same secret rituals and knowledge as the media wimmun themselves: the lore and sacred knowledge of Communications Studies.
    
    The media wimmun and Ardern are ~~cell~~ soul mates. The media wimmun see that they, too, could lead the Left.
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:22am
    - Gabby
      
      So, Pullya’s going without the lippy jacksie? Does she check on her tenants on Sundays?
      
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      August 27, 2017 2:50pm
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Jack,
      It’s spelt ‘wimmyn’.
      
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      August 27, 2017 5:19pm
Hugh Pavletich

Election: Who’s in it for the renters? | Rob Stock |Stuff.co.nz

https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/96097379/election-whos-in-it-for-the-renters

It’s been a torrid week to be a landlord.

The Renters United People’s Review of Renting has lifted the lid on how miserable life can be as a tenant, paying through the nose for cold, damp, unhealthy homes, and subject to “no fault” evictions.

Robert Whitaker from Renters United makes no bones about the aim of the report: It’s to force renting reforms onto the political agenda. … read more via hyperlink above …
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August 27, 2017 10:22am
- Southern Raider
  
  And the Renters Unitied Socialist Front has no political objective behind this?
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:40am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    NEW ZEALAND: IS NATIONAL THE PARTY OF CRONY CAPITALISTS ?
    
    … How could PM English and Deputy PM Bennett have been so dumb ?
    
    … Perception is reality in politics …
    
    National Party auctions off ice axe signed by Sir Edmund Hillary to raise funds for campaign … Nicole Lawton … Fairfax New Zealand
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96019247/national-party-auctions-off-ice-axe-signed-by-sir-edmund-hillary-to-raise-funds-for-campaign
    
    … extracts …
    
    … But perhaps the greater attraction was the opportunity to meet the Prime Minister and his deputy, Paula Bennett, to pose for photos with them, to schmooze.
    
    The Prime Minister put himself up for auction: one lucky (and wealthy) donor and 10 close friends won the a dinner date with the English, “at your favourite restaurant” after the election. (Cost of the dinner not included).
    
    A Chinese community leader said such appearances would hold enormous prestige within the culture.
    
    “The implied Chinese business culture is around guanxi, which means relationship. Whoever won that dinner would be highly regarded because they hold a special bond with New Zealand Prime Minister.”
    
    They said if the dinner went well, the successful bidder might enjoy increased business opportunities in the future because of it. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    Crony Chronicles: I Want To Be A Crony – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aO9tA5DWJM
    
    … Johan Norberg explains what ethical Capitalism is all about …
    
    The Real Adam Smith: Morality and Markets – Full Video … YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6S6pMsKzlI
    
    … The above video will be used as a foundation for the re-education of National Party politicians and members … when the Party is deservedly sent to the Opposition benches 23 September.
    
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    August 27, 2017 12:33pm
- Viking2
  
  Didn’t ask 600 landlords how they felt about the way tenants treated their properties did she.
  Of course no one has to rent Hugh. They can always buy their own house even if its only a tent or caravan. I did while I saved the cash needed.
  Lazy bastards.
  
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  August 27, 2017 12:59pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    Interesting that the NSW Govt has just made public all info about renters bonds.
    
    It has shown which suburbs have highest rate of bonds not being returned due to damage or non payment
    
    I bet that will never happen in NZ
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:02pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Q&A … National (Adams) & Labour (Twyford) debate housing
  
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/q-and-a
  
  Q+A Housing Debate: Amy Adams and Phil Twyford | Scoop News
  
  http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1708/S00537/qa-housing-debate-amy-adams-and-phil-twyford.htm
  
  National, Labour debate housing market – 27-Aug-2017 – NZ Politics news
  
  http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=254474
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:11pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Whangarei Colmar Brunton poll ominous for National … massive Party swing from 2014 …
    
    Mixed news for National in Whangarei poll | The National Business Review
    
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/mixed-news-national-whangarei-poll-ck-206991
    
    A 1 News-Colmar Brunton poll in Whangarei has mixed news for National.
    
    The party’s incumbent MP, Shane Reti, is comfortably ahead of NZ First’s Shane Jones, but the margin is much closer than the 2014 election, when Dr Reti secured 55% of the vote, miles ahead of the next second and third-placed contenders, Labour’s Kelly Ellis (18%) and NZ First’s Pita Paraone. There’s a hint that Dr Reti could be in trouble if Labour and Green supporters cast a strategic vote. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    Q+A Colmar Brunton Whangarei poll | Scoop News
    
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1708/S00531/qa-colmar-brunton-whangarei-poll.htm
    
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    August 27, 2017 5:22pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      High-profile NZ First recruit Shane Jones lagging behind National’s Shane Reti in battle for Whangarei | 1 NEWS NOW | TVNZ
      
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/high-profile-nz-first-recruit-shane-jones-lagging-behind-nationals-reti-in-battle-whangarei
      
      In the battle to win the Whangarei seat, a new Q+A Colmar Brunton poll reveals voters are strongly leaning towards National candidate Dr Shane Reti over New Zealand First’s Shane Jones, who is hoping for a political comeback. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …
      
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      August 27, 2017 7:31pm
      - starboard
        
        “Hic..Hic..Hic “
        
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        August 27, 2017 8:36pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Anglicans hold ‘service of lament’, ask politicians to solve housing crisis | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/96203546/anglicans-hold-service-of-lament-ask-politicians-to-solve-housing-crisis
        
        Anglicans are calling for a political solution to the country’s housing crisis, lamenting the fact people are homeless while Housing New Zealand land lies empty.
        
        Awapuni residents watched as about 50 people held a service of lament on vacant Housing NZ land on Sunday on Raleigh St, Palmerston North.
        
        The Anglican Church’s Wellington diocese held services in the Wellington region and Palmerston North. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:54pm
Inandout

What has happened over Gorsky, has the General asked him to leave?
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August 27, 2017 10:34am
- Ross12
  
  Resigned.
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:41am
Scorpion

AUGUST 26

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/italy-muslim-migrants-beat-polish-tourist-gang-rape-his-wife-on-rimini-beach

Italy: Muslim migrants beat Polish tourist, gang-rape his wife on Rimini beach
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August 27, 2017 10:40am
Scorpion

The Party Running in the NZ Elections

https://www.politicalislam.com/
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August 27, 2017 10:43am
- realityczech
  
  I suggest you don’t vote for them Scorpy.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:48am
  - mikenmild
    
    Oh, he would vote for any Muslim party or candidate so he could then rave about how stupod people are for supporting them.
    
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    August 27, 2017 11:15am
    - simpleton1
      
      One would think that is what scorpions do.
      Bite the hand that feeds them.
      Poison the one that carries them across the river, just because, they have the poison.
      
      No matter what is right or wrong,
      Poison the well that people drink from, and even themselves.
      
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      August 27, 2017 11:32am
Tauhei Notts

I have visited the Electoral Commission’s website.
Their aim is to have 50% of polling places counted by 10 p.m. on election night, and 100% of polling places counted by 11.30 p.m.
Each election night we watch television eagerly awaiting the election results. Time is of the essence.
A huge number of polling booths have less than 500 voters. If the polling clerks cannot count those votes within one hour then they are no good.
I think the problem is that too many polling booths are at schools, and hence the polling clerks tend to be members of the NZEI or the PTPA. As such their clerical skills are not so good. I think tax department employees would be better used in that situation. They have the counting skills.
Also, the teacher attitude is that once the voting closes at 7 p.m. it is time to have a cup of tea, sweep the floor, talk about the weather and everybodies’ health, and how schools would be so much better if they did not have put up with the children, then consider the possibility of doing what the whole country is eagerly waiting for; get the votes counted.
My advice to polling clerks is to roster the time off from 6.30 p.m. Have a cup of tea and a snack, so that at 7.10 p.m. when the last voters have left the booth the count is started and carried through in a methodical, meticulous and timely manner. Any large booth that has not completed the count by 9 p.m. is unacceptable.
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August 27, 2017 11:17am
- Jack5
  
  Or maybe, Tauhei, a lot of them just have trouble counting.
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:33am
- nasska
  
  ….” tend to be members of the NZEI or the PTPA. As such their clerical skills are not so good”…..
  
  They are doubtlessly numerically illiterate too if the skills of their ex pupils are anything to go by.
  
  The need of a calculator or their toes to get past ten probably does little for a quick result.
  
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  August 27, 2017 11:33am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    Nasska, I occasionally join a school teacher mate for a beer or four. He saw me having a dollar each way on greyhounds, trotters and gallopers.
    I’ll give you a tip on punting, he said. Ask an eleven year old child what seven times eight is. If the child answers 56 bet $10 that he/she went to my school. It is money for jam.
    
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    August 27, 2017 12:06pm
    - Brigitte
      
      The correct answer is, of course, Seven Times Eight is a long shot in the 6th at Trentham!
      
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      August 27, 2017 12:46pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    But many of them will have 6 fingers and toes. 😉
    
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    August 27, 2017 5:23pm
- mikenmild
  
  We should sack the Electoral Commission and put you and your abacus in charge of getting the results out before the polls have opened.
  
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  August 27, 2017 12:37pm
  - Viking2
    
    Well online voting would do the trick. We would have the answer before the polls closed. 😆
    
    No need for voting places.
    No need to use teachers, however they are not the only ones that do this. anyone can apply for a job through the electoral commission.
    
    Roll on online voting. Move to the 21st century.
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:07pm
  - holysheet
    
    Now you’re talking. Why bother voting? Just have national as the govt for life.
    Think of all the children being able to count.
    
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    August 27, 2017 1:09pm
- Gabby
  
  Sounds like bullshit to me two high nuts.
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:53pm
Ross12

Lance Wiggs seems to think that just because house prices have been rising in Auckland and people are more wealthy, on paper, then there is plenty of room to raise rates in Auckland. His replies to comments on his piece in the NBR seem to suggest because Auckland is big and growing larger there is no need to worry about Council efficiency, what money is being spent on etc.
Who would invest in his funds if this is the way he analyses financial issues?
https://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/stop-complaining-about-rates-auckland
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August 27, 2017 11:51am
- Southern Raider
  
  He comes across as another Gareth Morgan
  
  I agree you wouldn’t want to invest in any of his funds
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:03pm
- Gabby
  
  Does he specialise in snapping up the homes of old folk driven out of town?
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:54pm
Surely Knott

Haven’t seen this reported anywyere else. Mangere Health Trust in trouble. ……..https://accountabilitynz.wordpress.com/
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August 27, 2017 11:58am
Scorpion

REMEMBER YOU ARE A KAFIR

Kafirs in the Trilogy
Islam devotes a great amount of energy to the Kafir.

The majority (64%) of the Koran is devoted to the Kafir, and nearly all of the Sira (81%) deals with Mohammed’s struggle with them.

The Hadith (Traditions) devotes 37% of the text to Kafirs.

Overall, the Trilogy devotes 51% of its content to the Kafir.

http://cspipublishing.com/statistical/TrilogyStats/AmtTxtDevotedKafir.html

http://cspipublishing.com/statistical/TrilogyStats/Amt_anti-Jew_Text.html

NEVER FORGET YOU ARE A KAFIR

YOU ARE A KAFIR

YOU ARE A KAFIR

YOU ARE A KAFIR
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August 27, 2017 12:12pm
- simpleton1
  
  The early part is ok, but the poison is still there at the end.
  
  The tail of the scorpion overhangs the body.
  Just like the last series of sentences in CAPS
  That doses the message with a poison.
  
  When a scorpion becomes over heated or stressed out, it will stab and frantically poison the comment and its creditability to death.
  
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  August 27, 2017 12:31pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  So where did the second “F” come from? (As in Kaffir Lime) – nearly fell over backwards when I saw this in the Botanical Gardens. ( Admittedly it was not in the Southern African section). Interestingly, in Sri Lanka, there are a group who are proud to be called “Kaffirs” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatnews/6613354/Where-kaffir-is-no-insult.html
  It’s not all “Black and White”…..
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:58pm
Southern Raider

I must have been mislead that National had their election campaign launch today

Last week there was wall to wall live coverage across every media outlet

Search Herald and Stuff and there is not a single mention of the launch apart from articles attacking National on other things
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August 27, 2017 12:54pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Loved the sound of suprise in your post!
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:05pm
- niggly
  
  Just read your comment, at 4pm, and even now there’s SWA on Stuff & Herald … no articles, apart from Stuff’s “Live” feed … although NZH has an article about Ardern campaigning in Chch!
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:04pm
Southern Raider

I see the left is going on a jihad because Sheriff Joe from Arizona has been pardoned

Apparently they aren’t happy because his main focus was targeting immigrants and Latinos

FFS he ran a border town and his job was to protect the border. All Mexicans are Latinos and they sure as hell weren’t immigrants
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August 27, 2017 1:05pm
- mikenmild
  
  People are upset because his conviction was for contempt of court and he had not even been sentenced yet for his crime.
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:12pm
- RF
  
  Sheriff Joe.
  
  A good bugger. Could teach our lot how to enforce the law….
  
  Maybe National could hire him to run the boot camps.
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:48pm
- Ross12
  
  I see McCain moaned about the pardon.
  If Nixon had not pardoned McCain where would he be now ?
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:23pm
  - mikenmild
    
    What pardon by Nixon?
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:33pm
brett68

Turns out those who said this mad election had one more explosive convulsion to come weren’t wrong. Could be soon. #motherofallscandals

Tim Murphy – Newsroom

https://twitter.com/tmurphyNZ/status/901252037165277184
According to Tim, Monday is the day, my money is on Paula Bennett.
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August 27, 2017 1:12pm
- sooty
  
  Martyn/Martin been done for voting twice. Rember vote early, vote often. The mantra of the left. Especialy for me tu, she needs all the help she can get.
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:20pm
- Happychappy
  
  My money is on the $200’000 donation to the change the govt and slavegate with a hint that it was taxpayer money. If so it will be a large scandal.
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:52pm
- 3-coil
  
  Brett68 (1:12pm) – murphy’s teaser is that it’s the “royal flush” of scandals, so my money is on Labour party slimeball Twyford.
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:55pm
GazzaW

Lead headline in the online Herald:

“MACABRE IN MT ALBERT – ‘DEATH PACT’ FAMILY FOUND AFTER 11 DAYS.”

That’s a bit of a shocker I thought and clicked on the headline.

It all happened ninety years ago in 1927.

But then why should I be surprised – it’s somewhat surprising that the Herald didn’t text it out as a Newsflash.
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August 27, 2017 1:39pm
- VicParking
  
  And the fact that the All Blacks won but the failing newspaper had to criticise the Ref. Not because of his decision but the length of time the game took. If for some reason every ticket holder won a million at lotto this paper would find an excuse to criticise. ‘Prizes only won by rich people who can afford to buy tickets’
  Its also so biased that if the tooth fairy ran over a child in her Limo the headline would be’National government lets kids cross the road’
  
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  August 27, 2017 1:48pm
- Gabby
  
  The reporter must have had to proofread the story himself.
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:58pm
KevOB

RETURN TO 1951 ALERT
see:
http://www.labour.org.nz/workplacerelations

Introducing Fair Pay Agreements that set fair, basic employment conditions across an industry based on the employment standards that apply in that industry.

Is McCarten hiding there. This is the Unions back in force. Another Tax on Employers.

I remember how the NZ had to get rid of the Unions previously. Nothing worked, they were always on strike just when goods or services were needed and prices then jacked up accordingly. We were heartily sick of them. You could not get to school or work on a tram, the drivers were on strike. There was a strong element of violence and the Standard newspaper was in the middle of it along with the predominantly communist Council of Trade Unions.

Even my mother who had voted Labour up till then was pleased to vote National in future.

No taxes without a mandate.
A mandate requires full prior disclosure.
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August 27, 2017 1:48pm
Peter

Green twattery continues.

http://business.scoop.co.nz/2017/08/27/greens-announce-plan-to-turn-trash-into-cash/

“Put in place an immediate 20 cent charge on single use plastic bags, with 15 cents going to community groups for environmental clean-ups and 5 cents for research and development into alternatives.”

Does ANYONE in that party understand basic economics? Incentives? Just one person?

Put 20 cent surcharge on and no one will buy them. Meaning there is zero dollars for your clean-ups and community groups.
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August 27, 2017 1:48pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Stop pissing about and charge a $1.00 a bag!
  
  Bag sales stop overnight with everyone turning up with their own like I do, or those little suitcase things on wheels like the lovely old girl who is invariably in front of me, has a purse and pays cash. Bless
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:10pm
  - Peter
    
    I reuse mine for the rubbish, so I’ll just be buying more heavy duty plastic bags. In bulk. From China.
    
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/6-Rolls-Thicken-Kitchen-Household-Points-Off-Trash-Can-Bin-Rubbish-Garbage-Bag-Color-Random/32756705420.html
    
    So, make ’em $1 a bag. No one will pay it.
    
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    August 27, 2017 2:23pm
    - sooty
      
      $1.00 each is a hell of a profit on a bag! I demand a working party to investigate!
      
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      August 27, 2017 4:12pm
    - GazzaW
      
      Spot on Peter. The yellow PaknSave bags make such great kitchen and bathroom bin liners that I buy them 50 at a time. Great value for $5!
      
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      August 27, 2017 4:36pm
- Longknives
  
  I’ll give you my Plastic Bag when you pry it from my cold, dead hands..
  
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  August 27, 2017 2:34pm
  - Gabby
    
    off your cold dead head more like lungnuts.
    
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    August 27, 2017 3:00pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  “Single use” plastic bags, I use my plastic bags over and over again, finally in the rubbish bin. But single use, never.
  Slap a tax on plastic nappies, I think they are single use lol
  
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  August 27, 2017 3:29pm
- mandk
  
  How will the Greens know whether the plastic bags are single use?
  None of the pastic bags I get from the supermarket are single use. They get used a second time for rubbish and reycling.
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:25pm
  - GoVege
    
    Doesn’t matter..they still end up choking fish and birds.
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:57pm
    - realityczech
      
      GoVege Then I suggest you stop throwing them in the sea.
      
      None of mine ever choke birds and fish. I know its very unusual not to throw plastic bags in the sea, but I am a bit odd. If only everyone else stopped throwing plastic bags in the sea. People inland have to drive hundreds of kms to dispose of their plastic bags.
      
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      August 27, 2017 7:02pm
      - GoVege
        
        They go down drains and through the storm water system out to sea, RC!
        
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        August 27, 2017 7:07pm
      - realityczech
        
        Oh you are flushing them down the toilet and sink then ?
        
        None of mine go down the drain, but I will try it and see how it goes.
        
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        August 27, 2017 7:09pm
    - mandk
      
      Fish don’t choke on them because they end up in landfill.
      They might choke seagulls at the landfill, but that is no great loss because the gulls are horrible verminous creatures. And they are hardly a threatened species.
      
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      August 27, 2017 8:28pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I already stopped buying Smack a Slave’s 10c plastic bags. Why bother when they have heaps of disposable cardboard boxes?
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:53pm
  - GoVege
    
    Me too, Cap’n.
    Cardboard is biodegradable after all.
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:56pm
- waikatogirl
  
  The plastic shopping bags gets used for all sorts of things in my home from lining the rubbish bin to covering meat and other food in my fridge. Collecting citrus and fruit, bags to hold anything I give to others, etc, etc, etc. The alternative to not having these handy plastic supermarket bags is to PURCHASE plastic bags to replace their use.
  
  What is the point of that to the environment?
  
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  August 27, 2017 6:49pm
Jack5

Now the lawyers are hounding British military veterans who served in Northern Ireland.

If these pricks had been around in 1950, they would have been out to take the scalps of the survivors of the RAF’s Bomber Command.

Maybe we should just send the lawyers to risk the IEDs, the snipers, the ambushes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4826710/Ulster-veterans-sent-legal-letters-shootings.html
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August 27, 2017 2:02pm
Viking2

Labour leader Jacinda Ardern has pledged a $300 million capital fund for Christchurch if her party gets into government.

She said it was up to the city where the money was spent, but the Government would have to sign it off.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/the-rebuild/96197777/labour-announces-300m-for-christchurch-rebuild?cid=facebook.post.96197777

Plenty of cash in Taxinda’s budget.
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August 27, 2017 2:09pm
- RF
  
  Not budget. It’s a bloody big bucket and its full to the brim with our money…. this is crazy……..
  
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  August 27, 2017 3:21pm
  - niggly
    
    Labour max out the nation’s credit card yet again with another big spending promise … and media too enthralled with Jacinda’s “positivity” to ask the hard questions on how any of this is affordable or what else would need to be cut to make it happen!
    
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    August 27, 2017 4:37pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Bill says the taxpayer is not an ATM for liabour.
    
    Good line Bill.
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:52pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Is she going to pay the same amount (proportional to population) to every city and town in the country?
  Fuck, this campaign is getting ridiculous, and the media keeps giving this profligate woman oxygen…….
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:56pm
- KevOB
  
  National had already offered $300+ million for the stadium without ties.
  
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  August 27, 2017 5:33pm
Longknives

I just drove past a ‘Free Education’ Billboard with Saint Jacinda’s smiling face beaming down upon me.
Was in Kingsland.
Has this Policy been announced? Where the fuck are they going to get the cash for that? (Surely she will run out of ‘Rich Pricks’ to tax soon…)
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August 27, 2017 2:31pm
- Gabby
  
  They’re going to hold the Browneye Memorial Conference Centre and Air Conditioned Stadium builds to budget. $300 mill right there.
  
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  August 27, 2017 3:03pm
- GazzaW
  
  ‘Free Education from NZEI Tyranny’ would be more appropriate.
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:40pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  I saw that one in Lower Hutt on Friday, and no, it hasn’t been announced.
  Madness.
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:58pm
- KevOB
  
  The Unions will come to the rescue. She wants a tax on employment. Preset pay rates which will yield increased PAYE for starters.
  
  Forget productivity or being able to get to work someone will be on strike. Ask McCarten.
  
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  August 27, 2017 5:30pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Just saw NZEI is advertising on Facebook promoting parents to think of the children when they vote
  
  Does this have to be counted as part of Labours election advertising?
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:55pm
  - mikenmild
    
    No. Asking people to consider issues is not a partisan political activity.
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:04pm
    - Southern Raider
      
      For fuck sake. Be honest for once
      
      When is the last or the first time the NZEI has supported anyone but labour
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:02pm
      - mikenmild
        
        NZEI represents its members, who have consistently refused to align with any political party.
        
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        August 27, 2017 9:30pm
    - realityczech
      
      Man hating zealots using kids to promote feminism.
      
      Check out their website : http://www.nzei.org.nz/
      
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      August 27, 2017 9:07pm
- chris
  
  I saw the same billboard in Westmere this afternoon and thought the same thing.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:09pm
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August 27, 2017 2:33pm
Manolo

Very kind, very gentle, full of candles, hugs, kisses and eternal promises:
http://news.trust.org/item/20170826173105-ah4q2

Hundreds of thousands marched in Barcelona in a show of unity on Saturday evening amid chants of ‘I am not afraid’ after two Islamist militant attacks in the Spanish region of Catalonia last week left 15 dead.
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August 27, 2017 3:57pm
- GoVege
  
  That’ll stop ’em!
  (Though I did prefer France and Italy when I visited earlier this year. Soldiers with machineguns outside most major tourist attractions. )
  
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  August 27, 2017 4:56pm
Viking2

Bill’s daughter sing National anthem. Very nice.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96194354/live-on-the-campaign-trail
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August 27, 2017 4:28pm
- holysheet
  
  That’s all part of the counter Cindy campaign. Families can readily associate with Bill and his daughter. How can Cindy compete with that?
  The toxic bitch pulling Cindie’s strings will be pissed that Cindy has nothing like it.
  
  Good to see the other women in the nats being highlighted. We have more than just one woman, was the call.
  
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  August 27, 2017 6:46pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Keeping Stock will be very busy telling you all off for this name-calling.
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:05pm
- Southern Raider
  
  That anthem won’t exist once Cindy gets in and makes us a republic
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:57pm
GoVege

Watched programme last night with minor party leaders.
Mum of 9 Marama Fox informed us that Maori should have the whole country including foreshore and seabed returned to them.
Also they want GST removed from food so the kids have healthy food to eat instead of takeaways and fizzy drinks.
Does she really believe the poor/ beneficiaries will feed their kids healthy food when it’s slightly cheaper?
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August 27, 2017 4:52pm
- Viking2
  
  Wellington plans a Housing Quality Standard for every home in the city
  
  Wellington homeowners face the possibility of being forced to bring their homes up to an approved city council standard.
  
  The proposed Housing Quality Standard will be voluntary at first, but deputy mayor Paul Eagle says Wellington City Council has not ruled out making it mandatory if support falls flat.
  
  The standard aims to improve the health, safety and earthquake resilience of all Wellington homes, and comes in the wake of the rental warrant of fitness approved by the council last week.
  
  “My crappy house in Island Bay is a 1950s job, and you wouldn’t build a house like that today,” he said. “We get battered by the coast every day.”
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/96122125/wellington-plans-a-housing-quality-standard-for-every-home-in-the-city
  
  Of course if he wasn’t a socialist he could afford better or maybe knock it down and build a new one.
  But I suppose its a heritage building. You reap what you sow.
  
  Another good reason not to vote Labour.
  
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  August 27, 2017 5:15pm
  - sooty
    
    How can the commies want this for private houses? Required for rentals, put the rent up!
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:40pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  If everyone had babies like her – you’d soon run out of food full stop.
  Why not just have twenty kids ? What a dick.
  
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  August 27, 2017 6:10pm
  - sooty
    
    What her take off the govt? WWF etc?
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:43pm
  - GoVege
    
    I wonder if it ever penetrates their thick heads that having so many kids might have something to do with their inability to house themselves also?
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:47pm
- chris
  
  Of course they won’t. Fizzy drinks are a waste of money anyway, and it’s cheaper and more filling to feed your family from supermarket food than takeaways. So given they’re already spending more money than they need to on shitty food they shouldn’t be buying, why would a slight reduction in cost make any difference?
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:07pm
  - GoVege
    
    Plus “healthy food” of the type Mrs Fox is promoting takes time to prepare and cook.
    Mums are time-poor nowadays.
    A friend of mine in the social services visited a home where there were 5 young kids recently.
    The only food in the house was a pot of mouldy rice.
    Mum was too busy playing on her phone to notice…or maybe care.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:17pm
- Newbie
  
  Perhaps, instead of handing out cash benefits or WFF, or any other tax breaks anything to do with raising children, might handing out vouchers for food (minus alcohol, fizzy drinks, ciggies, etc), rent, power be a better option?
  
  (I’ve excluded phones/iphones/smartphones etc as I think it’s a bit problematic)
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:21pm
Viking2

A couple of good reads about our housing problem.

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/89530/statistics-nz-analyses-data-our-national-housing-markets-see-how-much-new-housing
Is there currently a house ‘building boom’?

In the year ended June 2017, 30,453 new homes were consented across New Zealand. This is near levels last seen in early 2005, but is still well below the all-time peak of over 40,000 homes per year seen in early 1974.

https://medium.com/land-buildings-identity-and-values/aucklands-housing-boom-is-an-emperor-with-new-clothes-d3bed9a8fdcd

Auckland’s Housing Boom is an Emperor with New Clothes
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August 27, 2017 5:37pm
VicParking

Nationals campaign launch today but Labour got more airtime on prime news. Failing newspaper ranks a house sold because its close to a KFC higher. Stuff ranks greens plastic bag ban higher.
MSM has certainly showen their colours today
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August 27, 2017 5:41pm
Left Right and Centre

Real time whining . . .
I’m sorry but I couldn’t give a fark about some standard issue calamity in the US, so why is it leading TVNZ ‘news’ ?
Flicked to TV3 – politics leading. Good.
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August 27, 2017 6:02pm
Lucia Maria

The 48 Hour Film Festival in Wellington is over in less than half an hour. Both my boys have entered in separate film groups. Hopefully, they’ll get their respective entries in before the cutoff!
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August 27, 2017 6:33pm
- realityczech
  
  Rod & Todd ?
  
  http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Rod_and_Todd_Flanders
  
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  August 27, 2017 6:37pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    They don’t do cartoon genres. Too difficult over 48 hours.
    
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    August 27, 2017 6:44pm
    - realityczech
      
      Whoosh ….
      
      Did you see the man with the nice beard giving out religious pamphlets down the water front this weekend ? Islam.
      
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      August 27, 2017 6:56pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Playing dumb has its advantages.
        
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        August 27, 2017 7:08pm
Left Right and Centre

Green Party haven’t met me – I can use a plastic bag more than once – and have done.

A lot get recycled and don’t go to a landfill.

That’s a fact – fuck them – morons.
Let’s just ban people – shit that would save a lot of waste on earth.
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August 27, 2017 6:34pm
- nasska
  
  ….”Let’s just ban people “…..
  
  You’re getting very close to core Green policy. The UN’s Agenda 21 spells out their aims & although it is as free of specifics as a frog from feathers it is generally accepted that its implementation would involve reducing the world’s population to about half a billion…..all in the name of sustainability.
  
  They squirm like an greased eel when pressed for their ideas on the subject. Unfortunately our MSM can’t get past asking Princess Jacinda how she can remain so modest when she is so wonderful, otherwise we might find out what the Green’s current thinking on the issue is.
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:10pm
  - realityczech
    
    Anyone who claims to care about the environment and does not support population reduction is virtue signalling and a fake.
    
    No amount of environmental harm reduction will make up for having a kids. We simply can not continue expanding in the current way. If we don’t act now then the reduction will still come, but will involve death and misery like human kind has never seen.
    
    We can not have infinite growth in a finite system, even if you don’t give a shit about the environment.
    
    The remarkable thing is our so called greens want to subsidize child production and pay people to have more of them.
    
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    August 27, 2017 7:25pm
- chris
  
  Well they’ll have to make a lot of paper bags to replace the plastic ones. Can you really imagine shopping with no bags at all? My trolley today had about 60 or so various individual fruits and vegetables (apples, mandarins, pears, onions, potatoes and so on). Actually, probably more cos I had a bag of beans… Do they really think we want all that rolling around, and falling out of, the shopping trolley?
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:02pm
  - sam green
    
    We use hessian bags you can get from the supermarket. They’re really good. Sturdy and reusable.
    
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    August 27, 2017 9:46pm
    - chris
      
      Do you use a dozen or so small ones for all your Fruit and veg before you’ve paid for it? And does the extra weight of the bags cost you more?
      
      Don’t get me wrong, I Shop at Pak n save so all the shopping goes in the boot of the car, not in bags. But the fruit veg and bulk nuts have to go in something before I can pay for them.
      
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      August 27, 2017 10:06pm
      - sam green
        
        Yeah – but we don’t put that much stuff in plastic except maybe bulk nuts and thing like that. Most of the veg I just put in the trolley. They have paper bags for the mushrooms and string bags for onions and spud.
        
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        August 27, 2017 10:14pm
BananaLlama

Hearing that “fuck Donald Trump” McGregor got his mouth smacked in by May Weather has made my day. That Tattooed Irish degenerate wont be running his mouth no more.
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August 27, 2017 6:46pm
- realityczech
  
  I have suddenly gone right off him. The Irish have never been known for their brains.
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:27pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Yeah but – what was his net payday from that sideshow ? Made it what – ten rounds ?
  Not bad but not a shock seeing as MMA fighters are tough as all fark.
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:57pm
  - Southern Raider
    
    $100M
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:00pm
RF

Has winnie been a naughty boy ?

This must be the scandal that was being discussed on twitter.
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August 27, 2017 7:27pm
- chris
  
  If that’s the big scandal, it’ll be a flop. His explanation will be credible enough to his fanbois.
  
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  August 27, 2017 7:57pm
  - nasska
    
    I just wonder what sort of scandal it is.
    
    He’s 72. If it’s a sex scandal then he’s got my admiration, my vote & an advance order for a copy of his memoirs! 🙂
    
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    August 27, 2017 8:12pm
    - chris
      
      Nah it’s about superannuation.
      
      http://nzh.tw/11912184
      
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      August 27, 2017 8:19pm
- Happychappy
  
  Looks like someone from the Greens wanted to dig some dirt on Winston and he has shut it down without taking a hit.
  
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  August 27, 2017 8:07pm
  - sam green
    
    Long bow.
    
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    August 27, 2017 10:20pm
nasska

Have you ever noticed that….

It’s only when your payment is past due, that a corporation will allow you to speak with someone whose native tongue is English.
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August 27, 2017 8:52pm
Piniwi

Paddy Gower will be getting his Red card pulled from his sweaty hand after today. He thinks Bill hit several out of the park at the National party campaign launch today. Started with his daughter singing the National Anthem. Then the big Education policy announcement. A $379 million injection for education targeted at better standards, more core subject emphasis, digital expansion and the really big one. A second language of choice in primary school. That has successfully avoided the enforcement of compulsory native dialect.
The clear message is to strive for better levels throughout the school system for the benefit of all children. Moving into the digital age more will allow parents to view their children’s progress through an app.
The Prime Minister was accompanied by his family of whom he acknowledged his immense pride in. Even the biased minimal Media party coverage could not stem the massive enthusiasm of the thousands gathered there. Fantastic. What a great knock by the Captain still leading by example.
Still the best to take the country further forward. Tick Two 4 Blue.
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August 27, 2017 9:09pm
- Gabby
  
  LikPu4U.
  
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  August 27, 2017 10:31pm
waikatogirl

Paula Bennett’s speech at National’s launch started slowly but her best statement was that as a solo mum Liabor saw her as a victim. They would have allowed her to become a union leader, while National saw her potential and made it possible for her to become deputy prime minister.
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August 27, 2017 9:52pm
Jack5

On TVNZ’s Sunday, a great story about the energetic, tough man in his mid-90s who pioneered the Mt Hutt skifield and still skis there.

It was a good story. The Austrian veteran, who came to NZ about 1950, and married an English woman, was open about having served in the Waffen SS from the beginning on the Russian Front until a Red Army bayonet went through his chest.

Young Germans and Austrians were being conscripted into the Waffen SS from 1944, but this veteran was open that he volunteered near the beginning of the war. It was interesting to hear a man who had been in a tank in the thick of the Kursk Cauldron for four days, the greatest armoured battle of all time. I’m sure military buffs would have liked to know which division he served in at Kursk.

Let’s hope peaceniks and Lefties leave this mountain sports pioneer alone about his life in the 1940s, so that he can get due and just recognition for the great work he has done at Mt Hutt.

If not, the peaceniks and Lefties will purport not to know the difference between the Waffen SS, who fought as soldiers, and the SS who did Hitler’s dirty work in the Holocaust.

Surely this guy should have received some sort of honour award for his Mount Hutt work. If not, I guess his soldiering 75 and more years ago was the reason.
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