General Debate 1 August 2017

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KevOB

Regenerate Christchurch has a bright idea: to appropriate the land immediately adjacent to the Cathedral, with barely space left to walk around it, and turn it into a public park. The Cathedral is shown shining, fully restored.

Implicily nothing else is acceptable in their plans, These they say are backed up with legislative power. Troubling that the don’t own the land or the Cathedral and the Church are not museum curators. Regenerate are in full promotion mode.
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August 1, 2017 8:01am
JasonJohns

Another big win for Trump today. Scaramucci had done some good service, getting rid of the cuck infiltrators Priebus and Sean Spicer, but it was time for him to go. Trump is a warrior – he knows when to wield the sword. The Mooch is gone and all the liberal media are saying this is a sign the WH is in disarray. What the lamestream media can’t get is that this is all part of Trump’s plan. He hired the Mooch knowing he’d last ten days. Trump is playing five dimensional chess and is way ahead of everyone else. Like the healthcare vote ‘failure’ this departure of the Mooch will eventually be seen for what it is – another big win for the winner. Trump hasn’t made a mistake since he got in the WH. Even when he ‘loses’ he wins.
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August 1, 2017 8:04am
- Inandout
  
  Mooch was indiscreet with his profane language to a ‘leaker’. If the retired General can’t sort the WH and it’s loose talkers, then no one can.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:11am
  - oldgolfer
    
    Radio says it was the general’s first command: dump the mooch.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:38am
- MCos
  
  Who pays you to write this stuff, mate?
  I’ve got a bit of time on my hands. I could turn out sycophantic shite like this for a few bucks.
  Quite a few bucks, mind.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:26am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    There’s a job going for you at the Clinton News Network Mctoss.
    
    Or would you prefer the B.B.C.?
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtPZhDH4QU8
    
    PAUL JOSEPH WATSON GOT OWNED!
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:17am
    - PhilBest
      
      Fair parallel – there isn’t much equivalent on “the right” to the lamestream media leaning so far to the left they are lying on their sides. That is why there is no equivalent on the left, of vloggers as entertaining as Paul Joseph Watson. There isn’t the abundance of material to deal with.
      
      I recommend that video to others.
      
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      August 1, 2017 11:38am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Trump the genius … not really seeing it.
  
  Gosh, you Troll Bots are in full swing this morning.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:26am
  - Gruffydd
    
    It is a poe lucy
    Its rants are a poke at the stubidty of the Trumpies
    Johns often escalates the idiocy to monumental levels yet still gets up ticks from nodding smegwits.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:44am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Trump will be a genius…right up until he isn’t.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:50am
    - Gruffydd
      
      It is what happens when the Trump collapses under the weight of idiocy that is a concern.
      
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      August 1, 2017 8:53am
    - PhilBest
      
      I agree, it is like a tightrope act with one catastrophe after another. If the acrobats end up surviving to the end of an entire show, it was actually a truly great one.
      
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      August 1, 2017 11:43am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Monkeys could type out the entire works of Will Shakespeare as well.
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:08pm
      - Gabby
        
        Monkeys would handle a tightrope better come to think on it.
        
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        August 1, 2017 1:04pm
- Andrei
  
  The whole American political establishment is in meltdown
  
  They want to “sanction ” Russia again, the effect of which would be to force Europeans to buy expensive American gas instead of cheap Russian gas and the Europeans have had enough
  
  The stupid Poles forced their taxpayers to pay American companies build them an expensive LNG facility to handle American “fracked” gas shipped by sea that costs three times the piped gas from Russia.
  
  Dumb dumb dumb
  
  But the Europeans are beginning to see through American bullshit
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:37am
  - KevOB
    
    Dumber?
    The Brits are importing wood chips from the USA to burn to generate electricity.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:01am
    - Gabby
      
      Dumb – the Chinese would sell them our woodchips much cheaper.
      
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      August 1, 2017 1:05pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Reading that made me a bit dizzy, but I get the impression that you may have disappeared up your own arse at warp rpm. That one even puts the stranded to shame.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:42am
- NK
  
  Keep it up Jason. You’re funnier than the current Labour Party shenanigans.
  
  Trump hasn’t made a mistake since he got in the WH
  
  Just toooooooooooooooooooooooooo funny.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:59am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I honestly can’t tell if this is an attempt at humour or not.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:05am
  - Gruffydd
    
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law
    it’s difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of fundamentalism or other absurd beliefs and their genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:10am
  - Scott Chris
    
    It’s Haji taking the piss. Quite funny in some ways.
    
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    August 1, 2017 7:05pm
    - JasonJohns
      
      You’re going to have to do more than hope. You’re going to have to believe. If you don’t, then you might as well give up on him right now. Mere hope is insufficient. Faith is imperative—deep, abiding faith.
      
      God put this man in this position to serve as President at this moment in history. Are you going to second-guess God? Do you have any doubt that Donald Trump would be the President of the United States without the active hand of Providence?
      
      Think, man! This administration is unlike anything within our ken. God has chosen this man to serve as his vessel at this moment in history. God has historically used profoundly flawed vessels (e.g. King David) as formidable instruments of His Divine Will. Nobody should be gratuitously tearing this man down. Once again, we have the Enemy for that. It is our lot to put our Faith in this man. At least it is my lot, and I pity the person who flippantly substitutes their own judgement for that of God.
      
      Second-guessing this administration over issues of relative minutiae—such as some employment churn, and an extra firing due to one individual’s yuge mistake (Scaramucci’s) is simply not the right perspective—no matter how substantial the misstep it might be.
      
      Don’t just have hope. I implore every Trump supporter reading this—and every #NeverTrumper still trying to tear him down—have the faith of a mustard seed, and we—through this good (and great) man who is now our President—will move mountains. Glory Hallelujah and Amen!
      
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      August 1, 2017 8:18pm
kowtow

Yesterday while the Australian police were questioning suspects for planning to blow up a plane another group of ‘Australians ‘were pleading guilty to a plot to blow up govt buildings ……..

……..on the same day 4 former NZ PMs called for an increase in the refugee intake.

The political class just don’t get it or if they do they are traitors to their nation.
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August 1, 2017 8:07am
- cmm
  
  I’m sure those former NZ PMs have a few spare bedrooms and could also park up some caravans on their lawns.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:10am
  - G152
    
    Maybe we can accommodate the expollies and the terrorists in the same prison?
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:16am
- Shawn Herles
  
  I don’t think they are conscious traitors, just stupid, and overly fond of virtue signaling and ego massaging.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:11am
  - Peter
    
    The left, especially, have no mechanism to criticise minorities. All minorities are good in lefty-world, even if they are bad.
    
    Because everything comes down to an oppression dialectic. Those who are oppressed and those doing the oppressing. Many of them are too stupid to grasp the over-riding oppression, namely a theocratic religion.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:37am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      The Left see a bipolar world.
      
      ….hold that thought…
      
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      August 1, 2017 8:52am
      - Peter
        
        Noted. However, my over-simplification is a means to illustrate a point briefly, without having to write an essay.
        
        “Left” meaning “thinking framed by Marxist dialectic”
        
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        August 1, 2017 8:54am
      - Peter
        
        I think many on the left are brainwashed useful idiots. They don’t see what they are promoting, which is very much against their own interests.
        
        Then there is a small minority of very smart left. They know full-well a theocratic infiltration can be a vector to undermine capitalism and the existing power structure from within.
        
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        August 1, 2017 8:58am
      - Gruffydd
        
        I think many on the ~~left~~right are brainwashed useful idiots. They don’t see what they are promoting, which is very much against their own interests.
        
        Then there is a small minority of very smart ~~left~~right. They know full-well a theocratic infiltration can be a vector to undermine ~~capitalism,~~socialism and the existing power structure from within.
        
        Nope still doesn’t work for me.
        
        The extremes at both ends focus on their opposite number .
        Fighting heroic battles between right and wrong.
        
        The path forwards lies in the middle somewhere.
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:19am
      - Peter
        
        I don’t know that the intelligent right are promoting theocracy as a means to undermine the status quo.
        
        I agree the path lays in the middle. Can you provide examples of minorities that the left criticise?
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:34am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Far right loons?
        
        The idea that some on the left are imposing a minority religion to undermine capitalism leaves the question.
        What happens to them if that religion attains ascendancy?
        
        The smart people controlling the left are committing Suicide?
        
        We live in democracy that companions socialism with free markets.
        This seems to be the most efficient form of society we have yest devised.
        Those on the far right who ignore this are cursed with futile ranting on political blogs and being ignored by the the voters.
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:51am
      - Peter
        
        Far right loons?
        
        Facetiousness aside, they are attacking the far right because they see them as oppressors.
        
        The idea that some on the left are imposing a minority religion to undermine capitalism leaves the question.What happens to them if that religion attains ascendancy?
        
        They get crushed by the military and abolition of religion before that point. They are just another means to an end.
        
        We live in democracy that companions socialism with free markets.
        This seems to be the most efficient form of society we have yest devised.
        
        Never said otherwise. My comments had a very specific context, namely the inability of that ideology to criticise anyone deemed oppressed. And why that happens.
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:57am
      - Shawn Herles
        
        @Griff
        
        “The extremes at both ends focus on their opposite number .”
        
        Like global warming alarmists vs global warming denialists?
        
        “Fighting heroic battles between right and wrong.”
        
        Like global warming alarmists vs global warming denialists? 🙂
        
        “The path forwards lies in the middle somewhere” …over the rainbow…. 🙂
        
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        August 1, 2017 10:13am
      - PhilBest
        
        Peter is exactly right. Most virtue-signalers are just brainwashed useful idiots and once a critical mass is achieved it has its own momentum without the need for much input from the deliberate cultural quislings who mostly consisted originally of Marxist Uni professors like Marcuse, Derrida, Foucault etc.
        
        If “conservatism” really had any equivalency to fascism, all the cultural marxists would have been locked up decades ago instead of being given tenured positions at unis in the name of intellectual freedom. And were there ever masked goons from the conservative right violently shutting down these people’s speeches?
        
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        August 1, 2017 11:57am
      - Gruffydd
        
        Griff don’t slip into the rabbit hole…
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        Who is the alarmists and who denies Shawn?
        
        Imagine a world, if you can, where you and your far right compatriots rule .
        Would you like to give me a ranked list of the problems you will solve together with your solutions.
        The Muslims is easy send them home and keep dropping bombs on them.
        The Jews ?
        The liberals ?
        The globalists ?
        The Socialists ?
        The Marxists ?
        The Scientists?
        The Chinese ?
        Our secular society?
        I am sure there are more ………….
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:05pm
      - Scott Chris
        
        Odakyu-sen
        
        The Left see a bipolar world.
        
        Can you see the irony in that comment Odakyu?
        
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        August 1, 2017 7:08pm
    - cmm
      
      “All minorities are good in lefty-world,”
      
      White South Africans???
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:44am
      - Peter
        
        So, a minority that is deemed to be an oppressor.
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:59am
    - Shawn Herles
      
      I don’t think it’s a left/right issue. One of those four politicians calling for more refugees was Jim Bolger.
      
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      August 1, 2017 10:08am
      - PhilBest
        
        The so-called “centre right” establishment all over the world is joined at the hip to the virtue-signalling left anyway. If it wasn’t for Trump, no Republican was going to slow immigration down or try to stop the illegal stuff. Cameron in Britain, Key in NZ, Turnbull in Aussie, same thing. Same global-elite-driven agenda.
        
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        August 1, 2017 11:52am
      - Gabby
        
        More of a UN employee issue.
        
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        August 1, 2017 1:08pm
- tf78
  
  I watched the BOLT interview’s last night with Cory Barnardi (Sky 85) and Aussie is just a mess through these immigrants. Why can’t people hear take heed at what has happened there and stop it getting worse here. Clark and co should know better.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:17am
  - MCos
    
    Never heard of this Cory Barnardi so I checked his profile on the internet.
    Seems he is somewhere to the right of Tony Abbott with his social views and this year left the Liberals to form his own party.
    So from what I’ve seem of Andrew Bolt, probably a good matchup.
    I could imagine the two of them spun the actions of those prospective terrorists in Oz a couple of days ago to suggest that all Muslims are evil. A bit like saying that all Maori are murderous gang members.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:50am
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Islamic apologist.
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:20am
      - MCos
        
        Your words
        That’s not what I said . . .
        
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        August 1, 2017 10:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’m off to Oz today..
  If I don’t make it back..
  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-31/sydney-terror-raids-bomb-plotters-may-have-already-made-attempt/8760562
  I bequeath my shoes to Manolo, my dictionaries to Kimbo, and an old cat each to Vege Girl and Lucia Maria.
  I have no other worldly goods, so the rest of you chaps miss out.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:39am
  - holysheet
    
    Can I have your trike?
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:41am
  - Biscuit
    
    Penny, WoO and Hugh could do with a third-share each of your sense of humour, Maggy!
    
    Enjoy your trip!
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:54am
  - Johnboy
    
    Could I have all your spare stockings Maggie?
    
    I use them to strain lumps out of my paint…honest. 🙂
    
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    August 1, 2017 1:12pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Now, if I were Kea, I would log in under all my noms de plume and uptick that a dozen times.
      
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      August 1, 2017 1:16pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  This is what old age does to them. Making irrelevant statements. Idiots.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:18am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  We can easily fill our refugee quota, and more, with desperate people in genuine need who will come here and contribute and be no threat to anyone. But I doubt they can be found in the UN camps. That is the problem.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:43am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    Fiction!
    
    If you believe the Left. They tell us:
    – we have a homeless epidemic
    – we have burgeoning child poverty
    – we have no jobs for the poor, diligent unemployed because of all the ne0-liberal immigration
    – we have terribly ethnic discrimination with the indigineous population on the wrong end of all social indexes
    
    Will we increase homelessness by giving homes to refugees?
    Will we increase child poverty by bringing in more poor children when we can’t even care for our own?
    Will we add more unemployed by bringing in unemployable refugees?
    Will we further disadvantage Maori by shipping in cot-cases from 3rd world countries that require a greater slice of the social intervention pie?
    
    The Left’s virtue-signalling policies on refugees are designed to make true the “issues” they claim assail NZ. They’re future-proofing their lies. It’s a scam. It’s a con and taking any refugees is gullible on the “bite this apple, honestly nothing bad will happen hisssss” scale.
    
    Any discussion about this con dignifies the dishonesty of the Left.
    
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    August 1, 2017 10:44am
- Scorpion
  
  THE ARE FILTH
  
  THEY ARE IN FACT WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS
  
  YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF OTHER
  DEPENDS ON WHO YOU VOTE FOR
  
  DO NOT VOTE FOR SCUM
  
  WHEN A PLANE GOES DOWN IN AUSSIE
  AND IT WILL GO DOWN SOON
  
  REMEMBER KIWIS WILL BE ON IT
  
  AND IT WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE
  OF THE POLITICAL SCUM OF NZ AND AUSTRALIA
  
  THEY ARE WORSE THAN THE TERRORISTS
  AND BELOW DOG SH*T ON YOUR SHOE
  
  DO NOT GIVE THEM THE TIME OF DAY
  
  AND FOR YOUR OWN SAKE
  
  DO NOT VOTE FOR THEM
  
  IT IS TANTAMOUNT TO SUICIDE
  
  I have spent a lot of time in OZ and I can tell you
  DO NOT TAKE THAT PATH
  
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  August 1, 2017 11:38pm
JasonJohns

Looks like Kelly’s time as chief of staff will be short too. He’s gone full cuck by criticising Trump’s firing of the communist Comey from FBI. Trump will probably be sharpened the sword. When he strikes he strikes surely. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/31/politics/kelly-comey-phone-call-angry/index.html

New White House chief of staff John Kelly was so upset with how President Donald Trump handled the firing of FBI Director James Comey that Kelly called Comey afterward and said he was considering resigning, according to two sources familiar with a conversation between Kelly and Comey.

Both sources cautioned that it was unclear how serious Kelly, then the secretary of homeland security, was about resigning himself.
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August 1, 2017 8:08am
- thedavincimode
  
  CNN? The irony is with you.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:46am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    genius stroke
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:22am
- KevOB
  
  “..according to two sources familiar with a conversation …”
  ✖️✖️
  
  Facts? Its a pity they get in the way of truth.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:07am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Exactly. Two sources having a slash in the dunny at CNN.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:17am
    - KevOB
      
      How about keyboards frolics?
      
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      August 1, 2017 11:41am
- Gabby
  
  Cuck soccer jizzyjocks.
  
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  August 1, 2017 12:08pm
Shawn Herles

‘Hamburg Stabber ‘Islamist But Not Jihadist’ Say Police’

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/31/hamburg-stabber-islamist-but-not-jihadist-say-police/

WTF is the difference?
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August 1, 2017 8:08am
- Kimbo
  
  @ Shawn Herles ~~(funny)~~ (alarmed-and-it-is-self-evident)*
  
  Maybe (note for Kiwibloggers – “maybe” means I don’t necessarily agree with the explanation that I’m about to put out there, just positing a possibility),
  
  …despite his religio-political views, his action was one of non-premeditated random anger and rage wrapped up in his own personal circumstances, rather than a specific act designed to strengthen Islam and/or ISIS? Either way, “dickhead” is, I believe the non-legal term.
  
  Oh, no, wait, your question was rhetorical, wasn’t it? As you were…
  
  * © 2017 Kimbo Enterprises
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:15am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    No ‘inner struggle’ going on at all in said stabber.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:24am
- RalphT
  
  Isn’t that part of the joke about both wanting to kill you, it’s just that the Islamist wants the jihadist to do it?
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:34am
VicParking

I can smell snapper from Whanganui.
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August 1, 2017 8:11am
kowtow

Ouch.

“Dunedin South MP Clare Curran refused to express support for Labour leader Andrew Little yesterday.”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/curran-declines-back-leader
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August 1, 2017 8:14am
- Happychappy
  
  Has she visited Dot Com for advice or help.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:26am
  - Tarquin North
    
    Is she still living in a carpark? Or was there no mileage in that stunt.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:29am
    - RalphT
      
      Now, now, you know she’s only doing it so that some nice Syrian refugees can live in her house…
      
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      August 1, 2017 8:36am
- Biscuit
  
  Curran is a perfect example of just why Labour is getting no traction with the average voter.
  
  She has (a) done nothing and (b) will do nothing … but has a seat for life because of locals who can’t see either (a) or (b).
  
  The only time she actually makes a ‘contribution’ is when she is asked (and this happens a lot in Labourland because the caucus is full of (a) and (b) types!) which leader she is (not) gonna support in the next ledaership contest…
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:59am
  - RF
    
    There was an interesting story doing the rounds a few years ago..
    
    Both Curran and a mallard (duck) caught polishing a desk top in parliament one night.
    
    Security were alerted by loud quacking noises.
    
    It’s too good not to be true.
    
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    August 1, 2017 1:20pm
    - Paulus
      
      Old news !
      
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      August 1, 2017 1:54pm
Happychappy

People say Bill English is dull and not smart enough to lead National or be our Prime Minister but I like his manner and his judgement over this Election even though he didn’t handle the Todd Barclay issue very well. C an anyone say he has panicked under the pressure of the polls and made rash statements like the Greens, Labour and NZ First, whether the voter likes it or not English has remained calm and stuck to a policy that has already seen them win the last three Elections. Two Ticks Blue
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August 1, 2017 8:17am
- MCos
  
  What pressure is that?
  National is polling twenty percent higher than whoever is in second place.
  Today anyway.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:32am
  - Happychappy
    
    MCos : Actually 22% but a couple of points here or there doesn’t matter. Andrew look about 10 year older than Bill and lets face it what has he had to worry about.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:48am
  - lifesgood
    
    The pressure of all the MSM being rabidly left and running National down at every opportunity. It takes a strong man to resist a response. Even the so called ‘right’ blog WO has had its knife into him right from when he became leader. Those clowns over there promoting Winston are morons who will rue the day if he gets any power.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:53am
    - MCos
      
      If the MSM was ‘rabidly left’ they would be somewhere to the left of the Greens with regard to the Metiria Turei confession, which they most assuredly were not.
      I think you have a persecution complex.
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:10am
      - Happychappy
        
        MCos : It would be a bit like me calling you a wanker but really who cares whether you are or not.
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:30am
      - Paulus
        
        Obviously it appears that the media are totally in agreement with the theft and lying of Turei – they appear to want to make her Governor General as they support her actions.
        Letters to the editors. and published. are fully behind her, hence the poll support for the Greens.
        
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        August 1, 2017 1:57pm
      - MCos
        
        Equating Letters to the Editor to the MSM is laughable
        
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        August 1, 2017 5:23pm
    - oldgolfer
      
      One of the drinkers in the Blackball pub was asked on radio for his thoughts on Little and Labour and mentioned in passing that Winston had paid a visit.
      Campbell asked for the drinker’s impression.
      There was a pause, then he said Winston was a ”man short in stature”.
      If I’d been in the pub, as I have been, I would have bought that man a drink, and then another.
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:26am
- KevOB
  
  ☑️☑️
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:10am
  - Gabby
    
    Two Lick Poo.
    
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    August 1, 2017 12:03pm
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  According to Israel blog, Bill English is a loser and is leading National to poll defeat. Mark my words bros, come election day, people are going to vote for National en masse and I won’t be surprised National may not need NZ First to govern. Looking at the drama that is going in Labour at the moment, people will flock back to National.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:21am
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    ☑️☑️
    
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    August 1, 2017 11:44am
    - Gabby
      
      Two Lick Poo.
      
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      August 1, 2017 12:02pm
  - PhilBest
    
    Everyone who might have voted Labour has already gone to National during the last 9 years. Labour is now down to their hardcore, “won’t ever vote for anyone else” voters.
    
    I believe the theories that the Greens and NZ First are picking up what Labour has shed. And NZ First is picking up the disaffected National voter, for which there is abundant reason. All those plays to get votes from Labour by matching them or outflanking them on the virtue-signalling left, has to have consequences. The provisions built into the last RMA amendment, for powers of obstruction and shakedown for Iwi mafia, was the last straw; and the foreshore and seabed claims show that is now really only just starting.
    
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    August 1, 2017 12:05pm
- Piniwi
  
  Spot on. Expect the percentage to rise soon as more voters realise that the latest Labour reshuffle opens the door for Winston First. Vote Red, Green or Black and get a dull grey blend. The old geezer must be over the moon as he contemplates the PM job in a toxic blend as Ardern will fold from anxiety soon. Best option is a soft landing for them all and a return to familiar seats. Tick Two 4 Blue.
  
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  August 1, 2017 6:37pm
kowtow

More fake news. This is not a Danish gang , it’s an immigrant gang and that’s why they can move into those ‘Swedish’ suburbs , because there’s probably very few Swedes there.

Such enrichment!

“The gang’s leader, Shuaib Khan, confirmed that the group is eyeing the two Swedish cities but denied that Loyal to Familia was a “criminal gang”.

Shuaib Khan , wow sounds like a real Viking descended Dane .

https://www.thelocal.se/20170731/danish-street-gang-expanding-into-sweden-police
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August 1, 2017 8:22am
lastmanstanding

Its showtime at the Labour Caucus . Roll up Roll up.

See the Toothy One go toe to toe with the Angry One.

Watch as the Labour polls go down to 20%.

Watch as the Italian Stallion rises to 20%. Plus.

Watch as the Green/Reds fall apart post 23 September.
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August 1, 2017 8:24am
Scorpion

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August 1, 2017 8:34am
- lofty
  
  Erudite and to the point as usual Scorpion..I just wish you would speak up, as I am a bit hard of hearing.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:39am
- simpleton1
  
  tldr
  too much capitalized repetition, adds to the dyslectic haze
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:45am
  - thedavincimode
    
    He’s mixed it up a bit though; a precise 2:1 ratio of ‘FUCK’ (12) to ‘BOYCOTT’ (6).
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:51am
- thedavincimode
  
  Is that you Joe?
  
  Edit: IS THAT YOU JOE?
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:47am
- KevOB
  
  It’s hard to read.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:11am
  - thedavincimode
    
    Just take a couple of steps back from the keyboard and cover your ears.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:16am
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
What a shambles … thanks to National incompetence ! …

The downturn in Auckland’s housing market is starting to spread to the rest of the country. New listings on Realestate.co.nz at their lowest level in 10 years | interest.co.nz

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/89054/downturn-aucklands-housing-market-starting-spread-rest-country-new-listings

The number of homes newly listed for sale on Realestate.co.nz fell to the lowest level on record last month, and asking prices for Auckland properties continued to slide.

There were 7933 homes throughout the country newly listed on the property website in July, down 17.5% compared compared to July last year and the lowest number in the month of July since its records began in 2007.

The number of new listings was down in 18 of Realesate.co.nz’s 19 sales districts, with only Nelson going against the trend with new listings there unchanged from a year earlier. … read more via hyperlink above …

Auckland has little to cheer about in new dwelling consent figures, with June numbers lower than a year ago | interest.co.nz

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/89047/auckland-has-little-cheer-about-new-dwelling-consent-figures-june-numbers-lower-year

The number of new residential building consents issued dropped 7% in June compared to May, but remained up by 4.1% compared to June last year.

According to Statistics NZ, consents were issued for 2560 new dwellings in June, compared to 2794 in May and 2752 in June last year.

There was little to cheer about in the figures for the Auckland market where there is a growing housing shortage, with 906 consents issued for the Auckland region in June which was up slightly on the 885 issued in May but down on the 921 issued in June last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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August 1, 2017 8:38am
- holysheet
  
  How much of these figures are due to the fact that we are in winter. Not many houses sell at this time of the year compared with sales and listings in spring and summer.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:44am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And GD was going so well. 8:38am and it’s now fucked.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:46am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Tissue?
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:27am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Rodney … spot on …
      
      The National; Party campaign theme song up to 5 December … the day Key bailed due to the housing issue (refer GONE GONE GOING section http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org ) …
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLRjFWDGs1g
      
      … and since that time …
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcwqyhUtH0
      
      I outlined the failings back late January on PC blog with … ‘New Zealand’s housing consensus: where is the political leadership ?’ …
      
      http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:46am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    ‘Concerned Aucklanders’ gather to discuss housing crisis | Voxy.co.nz
    
    http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/5/289188
    
    The Auckland Housing Summit is the initiative of a voluntary group of concerned Aucklanders who today are gathered with 100 others who want to create action to address the Auckland housing crisis. Led by Leonie Freeman – who launched an independent initiative that provided the first comprehensive solution for Auckland’s housing crisis last October – this is about creating action on arguably the biggest issue facing our City. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    August 1, 2017 12:19pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Economic bounce in provinces as Kiwis flee cities for the good life | Stuff.co.nz
      
      https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/95172682/economic-bounce-in-provinces-as-kiwis-enjoy-the-good-life
      
      When Marc Burborough moved from Auckland to Napier earlier this year, he was unknowingly joining a national trend.
      
      The tide of people moving out of the cities is one factor in the increasing good health of provincial New Zealand.
      
      But for Burborough, it was simply a chance to continue doing the job he enjoyed in a place with cheaper housing and a better worklife balance. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      August 1, 2017 2:06pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        The winding road to housing affordability – Eric Crampton – NZ Initiative | The National Business Review
        
        https://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/winding-road-housing-affordability
        
        The announcement of a new way of funding urban infrastructure is a bit like announcing a way of clearing that first big slip on the road from Kaikoura to Blenheim. It’s an important and necessary start but it is only a start.
        
        After the slips are cleared, there will still be a lot of work ahead before traffic can start moving again. The road will need to be rebuilt in places, and slopes will need to be stabilised. And if we expect that traffic will be able to start moving again the day after that first slip is cleared, we will be disappointed.
        
        Restoring housing affordability is arguably the country’s single most important policy issue.… read more via hyperlink above …
        
        Poverty, gap between rich & poor and housing affordability, housing shortage, and homelessness dominate discussion in lead-up to election, says Roy Morgan poll | interest.co.nz
        
        http://www.interest.co.nz/news/89038/poverty-gap-between-rich-poor-and-housing-affordability-housing-shortage-and-homelessness
        
        Content sourced from Roy Morgan Research
        
        In mid-2017, and only a few months before the upcoming New Zealand Election which according to Roy Morgan is too close to call*, the key Issues for the New Zealand Election are the inter-related issues of Poverty and the gap between rich & poor, House prices & Housing affordability and Housing shortages & Homelessness.
        
        The overall picture across all issues was covered extensively in our release on broader New Zealand Concerns released a fortnight ago and available to view here. We look in this release at Economic & Housing-related concerns in greater detail.
        
        A significant 50% of New Zealanders believe Economic issues (27%) or Housing-related issues (23%) are the most important problems facing New Zealand. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 1, 2017 3:39pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Kindly fuck off Hugh.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:48am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    The figures speak for themselves.
    
    Just a disgrace.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:57am
    - thedavincimode
      
      Indeed. It’s been there for about 20 minutes and only 16 downticks. I blame complacency – people scroll past and can’t even be fucked downticking anymore.
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:00am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        All this real estate chaos going on … with ramped up ponzi immigration.
        
        Really guys ?
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:20am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        A perfect storm …
        
        Realestate.co.nz reports plummet in property listings … Susan Edmunds … Fairfax / Stuff NZ
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/95284167/Realestate-co-nz-reports-plummet-in-property-listings?cid=app-iPad
        
        A “perfect storm” of market conditions led to a record drop in the number of properties listed for sale last month, listings website Realestate.co.nz says.
        
        The website said the number of new listings across the country fell 17.5 per cent in July compared to the same time in 2016.
        
        Spokeswoman Vanessa Taylor said the extent of the fall was a surprise. She said the 7933 new listings was the lowest number for any July since her records began in 2007. … read more via hyperlink above …
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:27am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Tissue?
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:28am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Would you care for a tissue Davinci?
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:30am
    - thedavincimode
      
      What would I do with that Rodney or should I not ask?
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:50am
- niggly
  
  These are simply cut and paste’s of the links you provide, Hugh, with a worse than glib one-liner of your own thoughts (and in some posts sometimes, no thoughts of your own at all, just cut and pastes).
  
  If that’s not bad enough you don’t even bother quoting (or using ” “) for the cut and pastes, so to some casual readers they may be thinking these are your own words when in fact they are written by other people.
  
  No wonder why people here try and point this out, but you don’t have the good grace to accept their views and make changes (instead you double down)! No wonder why you get down-ticked!
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:55am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Niggly … food for thought from yesterday …
    
    … Where are the long overdue ‘consents rates per 1000 population per annum’ (standard industry measure) trends for each of the territorial authorities ?
    
    Raw figures without reference to the underlying population base are inadequate.
    
    An excellent media report from mid last year …
    
    Despite huge housing shortfall, Auckland consents per capita only middling | Michael Daly | Stuff.co.nz
    
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/business/83682402/despite-huge-housing-shortfall-auckland-consents-per-capita-only-middling
    
    Despite the desperate need for new houses in Auckland, the city is only in the middle of the pack when it comes to housing consents as a proportion of population.
    
    Figures from Statistics New Zealand show that in the year to June, Auckland had 6.1 new dwelling consents for every 1000 residents. Christchurch remained on top with 11 as it continued its earthquake recovery.
    
    Even with Auckland’s unpromising performance, the data continues to underline the growing dominance of the upper North Island, with strong showings by Bay of Plenty and Waikato, and Northland doing slightly better than the metropolis to its south. … read more via hyperlink above …
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:18am
    - niggly
      
      Hugh, you are a planning expert right? In your considered opinion, what would be the steps to ensure all territorial authorities are mandated to always ensure a high ratio of ‘consents rates per 1000 population per annum’? Would there be a national governing body to oversee this (and to clear roadblocks where aspects like the RMA or rezoning or simply local body stubbornness etc, slows things down)?
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:28am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Niggly old chap … My views are (excruciatingly) well known after near 13 years.
        
        There is just screeds of the stuff on my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
        
        Please read in particular ‘Restoring Housing Affordability: An Advocate Tale’
        
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        August 1, 2017 9:53am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Niggly … I trust this earlier post from late June illustrates clearly why this basic structural information is critically important …
        
        Its simple … better quality information … better quality politics …
        
        Posted at … http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/06/general_debate_30_june_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1960805
        
        NEW ZEALAND: BASIC ‘NUTS & BOLTS’
        HOUSING PERFORMANCE INFORMATION REQUIRED
        
        The selected residential consent numbers May for the following territorial areas were …
        
        Building Consents Issued
        
        http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/industry_sectors/Construction/BuildingConsentsIssued_HOTPMay17.aspx
        
        New Zealand … 2794
        Auckland … 885
        Tauranga … 110
        Wellington … 67
        Christchurch … 225
        Waimakariri … 56
        Selwyn … 138
        
        The finance focused website Interest Co NZ rather surprisingly still just repeats these raw numbers …
        
        New dwelling consents are increasing but still lag well behind growing demand in Auckland where housing shortage continues to worsen | interest.co.nz
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/88558/new-dwelling-consents-are-increasing-still-lag-well-behind-growing-demand-auckland
        
        The raw numbers on their own however don’t tell us much … unless they relate to the specific areas and population bases being discussed.
        
        Internationally, the accepted standard industry measure are the ‘consent / start / completion rates per 1000 population per annum.’
        
        So to get a real sense of the residential consenting activity each month, the raw Statistics NZ monthly numbers should be multiplied by 12 (annualized) and divided by the number of thousands of people within the areas being discussed.
        
        http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/estimates_and_projections/SubnationalPopulationEstimates_HOTPAtJun16.aspx
        
        For example (using Statistics NZ June 2016 population figures above) , let’s take Christchurch City with its population of 375,000 and its 225 consents for the month of May. Simply multiple the 225 by 12 to annualize it, which gives us 2700. Divide 2700 by 375 (the number of 1000 people living in Christchurch) which gives us a consent rate of 7.2 per 1000 population per annum. Hardly remarkable.
        
        Therefore …
        
        Pop (1000s) May consents / annualized Rate 1000 pop
        
        New Zealand 4700 2794 33528 7.13
        Auckland 1614 885 10620 6.57
        Tauranga 110 145 1740 15.80
        Wellington 208 67 804 3.86
        Christchurch 375 225 2700 7.20
        Waimakariri 58 56 672 11.58
        Selwyn 57 138 1656 29.05
        
        So … appropriately … based on the respective populations, the ‘star performers’ are Selwyn (as usual … by a country mile), Tauranga and Waimakariri.
        
        Not surprisingly, Wellington at about 3.86 per 1000 population per annum is the worst within the above table.
        
        What is the Wellington Council learning from the Selwyn Council ?
        
        What the wider public also need to know is the comparative detailed costs breakout of fringe new housing in middle North America, and the detailed pricing on the fringes of New Zealands metros … as Andrew Atkins explained early 2013 … with THE REAL DEAL …
        
        http://andrewatkin.blogspot.co.nz/2013/03/the-real-deal-housing-in-new-zealand.html
        
        I provided access to the Pulte Homes example in Phoenix, Arizoina recently … noting that when building areas in North America are discussed, they only include the ‘heated area’ (garaging is excluded).
        
        In comparing apples with apples with building area methodology in the Antipode (Australia and New Zealand), garaging needs to be added … about 6 x 6 metres or 36 square metres / 387.5 square feet …
        
        https://pulte.com/homes/arizona/phoenix/florence/parkside-at-anthem-at-merrill-ranch-7739#CommunityDetailsView
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:32pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Tissue Niggly?
    Help yourself
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:31am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Hugh,
  
  You frequently write that a family house ought to be around 3.5 times an household income, but you do not to mention the mortgage interest rate that this multiple of 3.5 is calibrated for.
  
  What is the interest rate for that 3.5x multiple?
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:56am
  - holysheet
    
    Don’t ask any intelligent questions of Hugh. He is spray and walk away mark 11.
    
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    August 1, 2017 10:09am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Oda … I trust this … from early 2011 … answers your question …
    
    Report: housing affordability out of sync with incomes … Sydney Morning Herald / The Age
    
    https://www.domain.com.au/news/report-housing-affordability-out-of-sync-with-incomes-20110202-1ad3m/
    
    … and the screeds and screeds of stuff at http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
    
    I don’t know how the stimple structural definition of an affordable housing market can be clearer …
    
    DEFINITION OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING MARKET
    
    For metropolitan areas to rate as ‘affordable’ and ensure that housing bubbles are not triggered, housing prices should not exceed three times gross annual household earnings. To allow this to occur, new starter housing of an acceptable quality to the purchasers, with associated commercial and industrial development, must be allowed to be provided on the urban fringes at 2.5 times the gross annual median household income of that urban market (refer Demographia Survey Schedules for guidance).
    
    The critically important Development Ratios for this new fringe starter housing, should be 17 – 23% serviced lot / section cost – the balance the actual housing construction.
    
    Ideally through a normal building cycle, the Median Multiple should move from a Floor Multiple of 2.3, through a Swing Multiple of 2.5 to a Ceiling Multiple of 2.7 – to ensure maximum stability and optimal medium and long term performance of the residential construction sector.
    
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    August 1, 2017 10:12am
  - PhilBest
    
    Odakyu-sen, house prices need not be calibrated for interest rates any more than car prices or TV prices are. There is plenty of evidence and economics to support this. In the absence of quota schemes on land for urban use, rural land just about everywhere is superabundant in volume relative to urban use, and is about the same low price everywhere.
    
    Sections for under $100,000 are economically possible everywhere. They were this cheap in equivalent money, back when the government was throwing subsidised and artificial low-interest rate mortgages at first home buyers in NZ. No-one back then expected this to just capitalise into higher section prices. None of Greenspan’s low interest rates pushed up section prices in dozens of US cities with the freedom of land supply, even as the rest were bubbling furiously.
    
    Hugh’s core point is absolutely right, and the more intelligent KB-ers should have got this all along. I “got it” in about 2007.
    
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    August 1, 2017 12:38pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      The price of consumer goods is not comparable to the price of a house.
      You can avoid buying depreciating consumer goods with finance. Few would buy housing without finance .
      Rural land is priced on the economic return.
      When you subdivide you pay councils for the capital tied up infrastructure this is built into section costs.
      The restrictions on supply by zoning do inflate cost.
      
      We have a present a large difference between supply in major city’s and demand due to immigration .
      
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      August 1, 2017 12:50pm
      - PhilBest
        
        Why then does “newly zoned land” in its raw condition around some cities inflate 30-fold in value, in others it inflates 1000-fold, and in cases where there is no zoning quota at all it doesn’t inflate at all? If you net out all the true costs of development and the financing of infrastructure.
        
        There are some countries in the developing world where some “experts” lament that there is no mortgage credit at all available to most people, and they assume that this is a cause of “people being locked out of home ownership”. Yet the price of a median home in the legal market is over 10 times annual income even though most people literally have to save this upfront (with help from family).
        
        Everything is a red herring except “supply of land”. This is a massive selective blind spot with everyone for whom “saving the planet by urban planning” is an article of religious faith.
        
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        August 1, 2017 5:38pm
- KevOB
  
  You have political ideology conflated with a failure to understand asset bubbles.
  
  The real issue would be if prices weren’t falling throughout NZ.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:13am
  - PhilBest
    
    People who use the “asset bubbles” diversion don’t understand the economics of “supply”.
    
    You could create a bubble in the price of cars too, there probably has been a bubble in the price of cars in Cuba. If you rationed the supply of them. In fact the early 1980’s “quota auction” scheme for imported cars did cause a bubble in NZ. Popular used imported cars got more and more expensive instead of cheaper, until the biggest bidders over-reached themselves, ended up with yards full of cars so expensive they couldn’t sell them, and went bankrupt. When Roger decided to liberalise supply altogether, the prices went “competitive” and stayed there. House prices were like this for decades too. It is absurd to miss the correlation between the fad for “saving the planet from urban sprawl” and the commencement of house price inflation disconnecting from historical norms.
    
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    August 1, 2017 12:45pm
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      I do wish the KBers would wake up and realize we are simply talking about restoring housing affordability … not inventing it.
      
      It is simple … sort out land supply and finance infrastructure properly.
      
      When I was a young married guy with a wife and two youug children in 1978 … on my SINGLE EARNER annual income then of $8,000 … we bought our first new home for $24,000 (3.0 times annual household income) with a $20,000 mortgage (2.5 times).
      
      Its still the same way through middle North America … refer Demographia Surveys at http://www.demographia.com and http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org .
      
      Why shouldn’t young people today have the same housing opportunities my generation had ?
      
      What happened to New Zealand’s cherished FAIR GO CULTURE ?
      
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      August 1, 2017 1:53pm
      - wiseowl
        
        It is simple Hugh.
        Cut immigration.
        
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        August 1, 2017 5:11pm
    - KevOB
      
      Price and value are independent and we have had massive increases in credit available globally which have fed property prices. That is an asset bubble. Wait for the implosion.
      
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      August 1, 2017 7:26pm
- Swifty
  
  It rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again…
  
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  August 1, 2017 10:03am
Inandout

Looks as though Phil Slyford will have a go at leadership now that Little has dug his toes in and (says) he won’t resign. But can he work with Jacinda Myturn, will Robbo slip up the middle? We live in interesting times.
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- Biscuit
  
  The two ‘leaders’ both from Auckland, Inandout?
  
  We all love our JAFAs down here – but not THAT much!
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:02am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  “and Robbo slip up the middle”
  An unfortunate turn of phrase.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:23am
  - Lance
    
    Ahhhh
    I will never be able to mind bleach that heinous image away
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:34am
- PhilBest
  
  I really like Twyford because almost alone among NZ politicians, he has “got it” about housing land economics. I know for a fact that he has taken the time and trouble to correspond at length with the best economists around the world on the subject. Some of those economists and other experts he has been in contact with speak highly of him and his intellectual capacity and objectivity.
  
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  August 1, 2017 12:48pm
oldpark

News is the tooth fairy Ardern will be running the doomed Lie-bour/Green Party before lunchetime. Angry Andy Little will be gone just after smoko.
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August 1, 2017 8:56am
- Northland Wahine
  
  http://nzh.tw/11897447
  
  Yep… however if they want any kind of fighting chance they need to make Davis Leader and keep Arden as deputy.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:03am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Who is Jacinda Ardern and is it a good idea to think about changing horses so close to an election?
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:05am
  - Inandout
    
    It didn’t work in 1990, in fact Labour looked (and was) in a state of chaos.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:10am
    - PhilBest
      
      That was so sad for Mike Moore, too, the party establishment had by then decided to throw everyone with an ideological link with Roger, to the wolves, and Mike was basically set up by the rebounding progressive long-march cabal to be the one who took the fall.
      
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      August 1, 2017 12:53pm
  - RalphT
    
    Neigh, sorry, nay.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:15am
  - oldpark
    
    Is known as the “tooth fairy” always overpromising,but never turns up.Run a country,perhaps she could start with running a bath,and see how she makes out on that.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:22am
- Northland Wahine
  
  And he’s gone. I don’t anyone really wants the job. Because labour followers know better than anyone that they will play the blame game after the election.
  
  Davis and Arden should have been the labour leaders 3 years ago. They could have at least built something that resembles a political party.
  
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  August 1, 2017 10:14am
Captain Mainwaring

At a time when Slavelabour needs all their supporters to rally for the cause, marquess and ross001 have disappeared off the face of the earth.
If that’s loyalty I don’t know what surrender is.
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August 1, 2017 9:18am
- thedavincimode
  
  Maybe off to caucus Captain Two Ticks.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:52am
EAD_TWO

Another hard hitting article from the Savant where the Irish MSM has gone into overdrive mourning the death of a Nigerian from drowning because he ignored all the warning signs yet all but ignoring the 9 Irish people that have died in the past fortnight:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/ireland-of-cucks.html

He sums up with this stinging observation:

How cucked can a country get? What has rotten our souls to the point that we mourn the loss of a Nigerian ahead of our own people?

Indeed – it is an upside down bizarro mirror world once your red pilled.
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August 1, 2017 9:19am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  Do not take too much notice of Paddy and Sean on the IrishSavant.
  They reported that Prince Charles was circumcised by London’s chief rabbi in 1947.
  Remarkable, as he was born on 14th November 1948!
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:31am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    Interesting Tauhei, that is a bold statement.
    
    Can you provide me the link for this Savant article where he said this?
    
    If true, I will be ditching him as a read as I’ve found him impeccable so far as a reference over the many years I’ve followed him.
    
    He is also very well connected and seen quite a bit of life so that does surprise me if true…..
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:36am
    - EAD_TWO
      
      Still waiting for this link……….
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:55am
      - JasonJohns
        
        Looks like Charles was circumcised by a chief rabbi. Another win for alt-right analysis. http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/ireland-of-cucks.html
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:24pm
      - JasonJohns
        
        ‘The more I research the subject the clearer it becomes that sinister ‘Western’ forces were intent on fomenting a war with Hitler’s Germany.’Well, do the research, as I did. The six million figure has been quietly dropped to about 1.5 million, and we now know the ‘gas chambers’ at Auschwitz could not have been used for extermination. Cremation yes, extermination, no. What about the iconic photos of bodies piled high at Belsen? Again, do the research. They died overwhelmingly of disease and starvation arising from the Allied blockade.’
        – Irish Savant. Pretty tight and clear Jew-wise analysis. I hope he is also standing up for the rights of Biblical Scientists against the cult of Darwin, which is probably another tool of Jews.
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:27pm
      - JasonJohns
        
        ‘The catastrophic state into which white South Africa has fallen – or more accurately been pushed – is a stark reminder of the fate awaiting Whites once Jews succeed in making us minorities in our own lands.
        
        Be warned.’
        – Irish Savant
        Looks like EAD has found a site really full of apartheid science and shared it with the Kiwiblog community. If we apply the science here we can get neighbourhoods that are ‘racially hygienic’ (Irish Savant). And Irish Savant wants to point out: Jews are not and can never be white.
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:37pm
      - simpleton1
        
        A comment on post from that link.
        “Mad Max said…
        Prince Charles was circumcised by the chief rabbi of London, back in 1947.
        30 July 2017 at 22:19”
        
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        August 1, 2017 12:43pm
      - EAD_TWO
        
        The Troll from the Standard, Jason Johns says:
        
        Well, do the research, as I did. The six million figure has been quietly dropped to about 1.5 million, and we now know the ‘gas chambers’ at Auschwitz could not have been used for extermination. Cremation yes, extermination, no. What about the iconic photos of bodies piled high at Belsen? Again, do the research. They died overwhelmingly of disease and starvation arising from the Allied blockade.’
        
        “These Holocaust deniers are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures.” Chairman, New Jersey Commission on Holocaust Education (Newark Star-Ledger, 23 Oct. 1996, p 15)
        
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        August 1, 2017 6:16pm
  - holysheet
    
    Intra-womb jobbie?
    
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    August 1, 2017 10:11am
    - JasonJohns
      
      Irish Savant really lays it on in this post about racial types. Check out his photos. The take home: white is beautiful, black very ugly, and mixed race depraved.
      http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2010/04/fascinating-new-academic-research.html
      Looks like EAD has discovered a really reputable website full of racial science and shared it with the Kiwiblog community. If racial science takes off in NZ then we will have to revisit the question of laws against miscegenation which as Irish Savant points out operated quite efficiently in South Africa and Germany.
      
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      August 1, 2017 12:33pm
  - EAD_TWO
    
    So it looks like Tauhei, thanks to the work of Simpleton down below, what you attributed to Irish Savant, was actually a below the line commentator.
    
    That would be the equivalent og attributing comments by Stephieboy, Kimbo, UglyTruth, Gabby, Lance, davincimode, philu etc. to DPF.
    
    And the most amusing thing? You’re post received 18 upticks!
    
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    August 1, 2017 6:11pm
- Gabby
  
  Cuck soccer.
  
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  August 1, 2017 11:55am
Keeping Stock

Has anyone else noticed that Grant Robertson has been unusually quiet over the last couple of weeks; publicly, at least?

However, I’m willing to wager his office suite has been a hive of activity, with all sorts of comings and goings, and lots of strings being pulled.

“Hey Clint; are we pleased about that?”
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August 1, 2017 9:23am
- itstricky
  
  Hey Keeping; how comes you aren’t further up the page defending Jacinda’s honour whilst our charming and witty KB friends bring up horses and tooth fairies?
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:24am
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

I am hoping and praying Chicken Little stays on. He is the best chance for National’s fourth term.
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August 1, 2017 9:25am
nasska

By sunset this evening no one in NZ will live more than a kilometre away from a former Labour leader.
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August 1, 2017 9:27am
- mandk
  
  Brilliant!
  
  Award yourself a chocolate fish for the comment of the day 🙂
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:48am
- thedavincimode
  
  Very good Mr Hillbilly.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:56am
- RalphT
  
  …but wished they did.
  
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  August 1, 2017 10:05am
Gosman

Classic! Just copped a 4 month ban from The Standard for commenting about the Little situation. Me thinks they might be a tad touchy at the moment over there 😀
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August 1, 2017 9:30am
- niggly
  
  Gosman, you have been such a trooper over there over the years gently pointing out to them the flaws in their thinking (and copping a great deal of insults in return)!
  
  Seeing you’ve copped a ban over there, but know the “personalities” over there so well, would you be kind enough to visit them periodically and give us here a summation of what ever hare-brained kooky fruit-loopy thoughts they are having? Especially when they are raging and losing the plot (usually over something quite trivial, or usually the truth)!
  
  I’m sure it will make good reading here, and it’ll be the perfect accompaniment when enjoying a bowl of popcorn! 🙂
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:41am
- lofty
  
  Ah the badge of honour…..wear it with pride..I salute you.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:43am
- Northland Wahine
  
  I just read your comment… you got banned for that???
  
  I actually burst out laughing!
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:49am
  - Gosman
    
    What I suspect I got banned for was the potential mischief I could have got up to over this topic 🙂
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:58am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  I love that way the left hobble themselves by enforcing ideological purity within their tiny echo chambers of unreality. The mutual wanking sates them but also highlights the completely delusional worldviews they maintain (like pretence that they have any connection to and understanding of workers). Long may it and their resulting electoral irrelevance continue.
  
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  August 1, 2017 10:17am
- RF
  
  Gosman.
  
  I can never work out what that thing called Weka over on the Standard is.
  
  It tends to ban anyone including your fine self for speaking the truth.
  
  Someone mentioned that this bird brain was a female suffering from PMS but then again it could be a key board warrior dwarf.
  
  There is a strong hint that it is a green supporter so it has criminal traits and not to be trusted.
  
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  August 1, 2017 1:38pm
Dany

Poor JK Rowling having to apologize on her birthday for tweeting fake news about Trump…
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August 1, 2017 9:52am
godruelf

Just wondering how well Jacinda would manage negotiations with Winston. A total mismatch.
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August 1, 2017 9:54am
sooty

Has the union got Littles balls in a grip. After all he is their boy and if he resigns the union will lose control.
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August 1, 2017 10:03am
- Keeping Stock
  
  No; he is doing a presser at the moment, and has stood down as leader.
  
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  August 1, 2017 10:08am
Keeping Stock

Little is gone by morning tea time.

In the meantime, here’s a preview of the new Labour Party hoardings, and they’ve even got a new slogan…

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4V-Pj8j7oU8TFRzODJRUkt0aXM
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August 1, 2017 10:07am
GoVege

My morning is ruined! !
Just saw an apparition straight out of the 4th century with a full-length mask.
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August 1, 2017 10:14am
Happychappy

Blubber Oil is saying Andrew Little resignation speech was the best he has ever produced and if he had of he would have beaten John Key at the Election.
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August 1, 2017 11:33am
UrbanNeocolonialist

Labour Billboard
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August 1, 2017 11:38am
- Gabby
  
  Two Licks Poo, nobbycolon.
  
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  August 1, 2017 11:48am
  - rangitoto
    
    Stop licking poo Gobby. It will do you no good.
    
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    August 1, 2017 12:43pm
    - mandk
      
      Gabby can’t help it – (s)he has coprolalia.
      
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      August 1, 2017 2:15pm
      - Gabby
        
        You can’t have more than two licks manky.
        
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        August 1, 2017 6:01pm
JasonJohns

Thanks everyone at Kiwibog for upticking me for saying the truth – Trump intended the Mooch to last for only ten days, as part of his 5 D chess game. Trump has thusfar made no mistakes. He has so much energy that he only needs subordinates for a few days or months – don’t be surprised if his new chief of staff is gone in a few months. Trump has the ability to squeeze the value out of a soldier as quickly as possible, for the good of the war. It’s a bit like with women.He has huge sexual energy and charisma, and of course historically has ‘gone through the ladies’. Most of them are just grateful to have had the experience. So it is with the Mooch – he had ten days with the warrior-king. Not bad.
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August 1, 2017 12:22pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Wow, it’s like wandering through a mental asylum and listening to one of the ranty ones lecturing at a flower pot.
  
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  August 1, 2017 12:52pm
Manolo

The WaPo’s daily special:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.106f92b9e4c5
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August 1, 2017 12:49pm
rangitoto

I see the Horrid are talking up Jacinderella.
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August 1, 2017 12:50pm
- RF
  
  rangitoto
  
  I know. its quite sickening.
  
  Even Paddy Gower is in love telling National to be afraid of her.
  
  FFS she lacks moral fibre and panics under pressure.
  
  Incapable of taking multiple orders of fish & chips.
  
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  August 1, 2017 3:06pm
Manolo

A warning from Greenspan:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-31/no-bubble-in-stocks-but-look-out-when-bonds-pop-greenspan-says

“By any measure, real long-term interest rates are much too low and therefore unsustainable,” the former Federal Reserve chairman said in an interview. “When they move higher they are likely to move reasonably fast. We are experiencing a bubble, not in stock prices but in bond prices. This is not discounted in the marketplace.”
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August 1, 2017 12:50pm
softail 1450

my little pony , my little pony ,my little pony and me .???
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August 1, 2017 12:51pm
- Gabby
  
  Ennathaday a tail’s a tail right softcock 59009? Or should I say Ponyboy?
  
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  August 1, 2017 2:58pm
Fletch

Dinesh D’Souza has a new book out called The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left. I know it sounds improbable, and everyone brings up Nazi-this and Nazi-that to defend themselves or to be critical of someone else, but D’Souza does point out the mutual admiration club they had going on, how they had policies in common, and may have influenced each other. He explains it briefly in a column here –

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/31/dinesh-dsouza-hitler-learned-democrats/
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August 1, 2017 3:02pm
- Gruffydd
  
  Yesss well Fletch.
  
  We have a national socialist commenting .
  You convince him he’s a lefty.
  
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  August 1, 2017 3:28pm
  - Kimbo
    
    He he he. Yesterday, when I did something similar to D’Souza, but instead was observing connections in the analysis between our resident cultural conservatives and the Protocols of Zion (which predated the Nazis by some 30 years, and were almost certainly Tsarist Russian in origin, btw)
    
    …I was being accused of Godwining, guilt by association and seeking to initiate an SJW censorship campaign. I await the same critique to be levelled at Fletch. Oh, no, wait…
    
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    August 1, 2017 3:34pm
- Gabby
  
  Dimmish mentions the reblubbiblubs are the old democrats of course.
  
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  August 1, 2017 5:56pm
Nostradamus

Quite a spectacle at The Standard and Lprent is waving his ban-stick around:

Anne: Sitting in front of me is a donation form from Labour. Filled it in yesterday. Planned to donate $500. It’s been screwed up and is now in the waste paper basket. Labour have lost a $500 donation. Never mind, I can buy some new lounge curtains instead.

Sam C: It would have been a waste of $500 no matter what the result of today’s caucus meeting was.
[lprent: Go away troll. Banned for 4 months. ]

I thought that Sam C’s comment was quite witty!
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August 1, 2017 3:24pm
- Gabby
  
  So now you’re banned are you nosy.
  
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  August 1, 2017 5:54pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    This may come as a surprise to you, Gabby, but “Nostradamus” and “Sam C” are different names. I don’t comment at The Standard – unlike, say, Gosman and RRM. You’d better hurry up and find a minimum wage job. The reading comprehension course won’t pay for itself!
    
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    August 1, 2017 7:00pm
    - Gabby
      
      Got your socks pulled up have you nosy.
      
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      August 1, 2017 8:31pm
nasska

I considered that the world famous sysop was taking the news rather well Nostra. Well compared with Psycho Milt @ 11.38am he was anyways:

….”That’s it, we’re fucked. How could anyone go out and ask voters to put such stupid, panic-driven incompetents in charge of the country?

The only silver lining to this cloud is that the Labour caucus has revealed before the election what a terrible idea it would be to make them the government. Thanks for the three more years of National, fuckwits. “….
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August 1, 2017 3:47pm
- Gruffydd
  
  It is not over till the fat lady squeals nasska.
  50 odd days to go.
  I will be 16 stone from all the popcorn.
  
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  August 1, 2017 3:52pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Griff:
    
    If you ask our resident dietitian (GoVege) nicely, she might give you some organic popcorn to munch on!
    
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    August 1, 2017 3:54pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      Why? corn is organic.
      It is the frying in the beaten until congealed scum off a cows secretions that gives it the flavor.
      
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      August 1, 2017 3:58pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Gruffydd:
        
        Here’s a shopping recommendation for you old chap:
        
        Organic popcorn makes a lovely light snack and is quick and easy to prepare. This particular variety of corn has a high hard-starch content that “explodes” through the hull when heated to give excellent popping results.
        
        Oh hold on:
        
        Currently unavailable. Enter your details below to be notified when back in stock.
        
        Have Kiwibloggers been stockpiling in anticipation of an entertaining election campaign?
        
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        August 1, 2017 4:04pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”It is not over till the fat lady squeals”…..
    
    The croaking sound we hear is Metiria clearing her throat. 🙂
    
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    August 1, 2017 3:56pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      I hope she squeals because she has been nicked nasska
      Like penny does .
      
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      August 1, 2017 4:09pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Gruffydd:
        
        Penny (seasoned campaigner that she is) is already one step ahead of Labour. She can recycle her election signage.
        
        As for Labour: Labour to rush out new billboards after Jacinda Ardern takes over. Commentators like Anne at The Standard might have to make lots of $500 donations, and defer lounge curtain upgrades, in order to make sure that Labour can pay the bills!
        
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        August 1, 2017 4:16pm
- Scott Chris
  
  I think many at the standard were hoping for a Corbyn-like resurrection but the political context here is completely different. With Little at the helm I’m not sure there was much that could trip English up despite the latter’s complete absence of charisma. Adern is a much better prospect in the future if not in a few weeks.
  
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  August 1, 2017 7:47pm
Brigitte

Can anyone help me here. For (I’ve lost count of how many times) Winnie has persisted with the Todd questions such as in todays Q&A. Given the answers from Bill are always the same (see Q3 of Hansard: https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard-debates/rhr/combined/HansDeb_20170801_20170801_08) what is he trying to achieve.

All I’ve managed to guess is that he is trying to prove Einsteins definition of insanity.
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August 1, 2017 3:51pm
- Nostradamus
  
  From your transcript Brigitte:
  
  3. Rt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader—NZ First) to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements on the Todd Barclay matter; if so, why?
  
  Rt Hon BILL ENGLISH (Prime Minister): Yes; because I said them.
  
  Bill English gets straight to the point!
  
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  August 1, 2017 3:58pm
  - Brigitte
    
    And in Me Tu’s question there was some interjection that would bring a smile to the mouths of grammar nazis:
    
    Metiria Turei: Does the Prime Minister agree with Jan Wright, Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, who recently said the situation for our birds is desperate; if he does agree, why are there around 200 less front-line DOC rangers today—
    
    Hon Members: Fewer.
    
    Metiria Turei: —than there were in 2009? Thank you!
    
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    August 1, 2017 4:05pm
- wiseowl
  
  Help for Brigitte.
  The questions today related to text messages.
  It is a way of introducing more parts to the puzzle through the system.
  One is required to think through the purpose of the questioning rather than being diverted to the usual answer that there is no ministerial responsibility etc.
  
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  August 1, 2017 5:02pm
Happychappy

He was part of Andrew Littles tag team it started with the Labour Leader then Winston and on to Chris Hipkins and now back to the NZ First Leader again. As the complainant works for Peters now she wants to stab Bill English in the back as he would not make Barclay resign something he couldn’t do any way so through Peters she thinks or he has told her they will get Justice by removing Bill as PM.
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August 1, 2017 4:05pm
- Brigitte
  
  My advice to them would be a short sentence containing the words “brick wall”, “beating”, and “head” (not necessarily in that order).
  
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  August 1, 2017 4:10pm
Shawn Herles

Liberation Means Subservience To Progressive-Approved Identities

http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/07/30/liberation-means-subservience-to-progressive-approved-identities/

This Week In Reaction

http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/07/26/week-reaction-20170723/
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August 1, 2017 4:22pm
Nostradamus

My goodness – Dad4Justice visited The Standard to offer some political advice and copped a ban for his trouble:

The new Labour leader must distance herself from the criminal actions of the greens to be able to survive.

[aw ffs. Banned. There have been no “criminal actions of the greens”] – Bill

No time limit specified – is that a permanent ban? Never mind. D4J, if you’re reading this, welcome back to the Kiwiblog tent old chap!
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August 1, 2017 4:28pm
- dad4justice
  
  Thanks Nostra the Standard seem to have the same banning criteria as Blubber Oil. The truth hurts too much for them to handle.
  
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  August 1, 2017 7:58pm
cmm

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/95326411/fatal-crash-closes-busy-christchurch-intersection

Bloke kills himself crashing stolen vehicle: “It’s a real tragedy.”

No it is not. It is bloody good luck this bastard managed to kill himself without hurting anyone else.
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August 1, 2017 4:55pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  And it’s another positive outcome for the gene pool.
  
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  August 1, 2017 5:07pm
- Nostradamus
  
  “It’s a real tragedy.”
  
  Richie Benaud – his eight rules of commentary
  
  …
  5. The Titanic was a tragedy, the Ethiopian drought a disaster, and neither bears any relation to a dropped catch.
  …
  
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  August 1, 2017 5:13pm
  - nasska
    
    He could have probably been convinced to make an exception for the parliamentary Labour party. 🙂
    
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    August 1, 2017 5:22pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      It’d be tough for any cricket commentator, including Richie, to provide live commentary on so many “hit wicket” Labour leader dismissals in one political season. As for the rest of us… here’s hoping there’s time for one more before the September election!
      
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      August 1, 2017 5:27pm
      - Gabby
        
        Rechie would note how et’s exciteng tew have tew new leaders weth lots tew dew en the next few weeks.
        
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        August 1, 2017 5:49pm
- Gabby
  
  You going to tell the car owner that cmmiebokkie? Odd bee quart cdoss if sarmboddie stole more core and deckt it.
  
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  August 1, 2017 6:05pm
  - cmm
    
    I believe it was a Christchurch City Council vehicle, making me one of the owners.
    
    Even if it was a private car belonging to me and me alone, I would be annoyed that the bugger totaled my car, but at least gratified that in doing so he didn’t harm anyone else.
    
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    August 1, 2017 6:17pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  One less idiot criminal we have t0 pay for while in jail, and probably one less Green voter. Excellent outcome.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:49pm
cha

National Review’s Kevin Williamson –

Trump is the political version of a pickup artist, and Republicans — and America — went to bed with him convinced that he was something other than what he is. Trump inherited his fortune but describes himself as though he were a self-made man.

He has had a middling career in real estate and a poor one as a hotelier and casino operator but convinced people he is a titan of industry. He has never managed a large, complex corporate enterprise, but he did play an executive on a reality show. He presents himself as a confident ladies’ man but is so insecure that he invented an imaginary friend to lie to the New York press about his love life and is now married to a woman who is open and blasé about the fact that she married him for his money. He fixates on certain words (“negotiator”) and certain classes of words (mainly adjectives and adverbs, “bigly,” “major,” “world-class,” “top,” and superlatives), but he isn’t much of a negotiator, manager, or leader. He cannot negotiate a health-care deal among members of a party desperate for one, can’t manage his own factionalized and leak-ridden White House, and cannot lead a political movement that aspires to anything greater than the service of his own pathetic vanity.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman
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August 1, 2017 5:18pm
Viking2

A BIG FUTURE CHINESE PROBLEM
Just as the riot act is being read to governors of China’s largest cities for failing to get on top of their pollution problems, another official is warning that they face very large issues in the future with the wholesale adoption of photo-voltaic panels. When they reach the end of their useful life, China will have mountains of them and there is currently no way to dispose or recycle them. The country’s cumulative capacity of retired panels would reach up to 70 gigawatts (GW) by 2034. That is three times the scale of the Three Gorges Dam, the world’s largest hydropower project. By 2050 these waste panels would add up to 20 million tonnes, or 2,000 times the weight of the Eiffel Tower, according to a report.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2104162/chinas-ageing-solar-panels-are-going-be-big-environmental-problem

So stick that up yours Mr Greenie.

Tian Min, general manager of Nanjing Fangrun Materials, a recycling company in Jiangsu province that collects retired solar panels, said the solar power industry was a ticking time bomb.

“It will explode with full force in two or three decades and wreck the environment, if the estimate is correct,” he said.
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August 1, 2017 5:31pm
Viking2

And just for fun.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2104495/laser-cannon-used-remove-rubbish-china-overhead-power-lines

A powerful laser device on the ground might be able to reach an aircraft flying at relatively low altitude, such as during take-off or landing, putting passengers at risk, he said.
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August 1, 2017 5:35pm
cha

Hypocrite in chief is on target to spend more on one year of travel than Obama spent over two terms. He’s spent 22% of his presidency at a golf course, too.

We pay for Obama's travel so he can fundraise millions so Democrats can run on lies. Then we pay for his golf.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2014
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August 1, 2017 5:42pm
Gabby

“The Opposition cannot have it both ways: that the Government is not doing enough but is spending too much”
Bingles is a dumbarse.
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August 1, 2017 5:44pm
- Gabby
  
  Not helped by our dumbarse speaker asserting that Ponyboy’s Theory of Hats means nobody has to answer anything. Carter you tool.
  
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  August 1, 2017 6:12pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Gabby seems even more agitated than usual. Something bothering?
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:55pm
Don the Kiwi

Doncha just love Diamond and Silk? 🙂

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5527335857001/?#sp=show-clips
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August 1, 2017 7:43pm
Jack5

What is this Islamic terrorist supporter in Napier doing at large and posting pictures of illegal, bloody slaughter of sheep in New Zealand?

Haven’t we got any anti-terrorism security in NZ?

The employing company also needs to be sorted out. It’s surely responsible for employees breaking NZ animal cruelty regulations.

Not in the photograph in the link, a second man giving a similar hand sign to the pro-ISIL fuckwit.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11897307
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August 1, 2017 8:20pm
- Gabby
  
  Police say insufficient evidence.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:28pm
  - GoVege
    
    If being caught red-handed on camera = insufficient evidence, I dunno how the police ever get to prosecute anybody.
    
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    August 1, 2017 9:13pm
- Jack5
  
  This company seems to be Fresh Meats NZ Ltd.
  
  Among the owning companies is something called Mangatu Blocks. This is confusing to track down in the Companies Register. In some places it is called Mangatu Blocks Inc, but someone-else may have more luck than me in finding in the register an incorporated society called Mangatu Blocks.
  
  Edit: in my first post, I meant to type “note in the photograph”, rather than “not in the photograph”.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:32pm
  - Gabby
    
    They may have whanau with glittering futures.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:42pm
- GoVege
  
  Just seen it.
  Bunch of evil sadists practising on helpless animals before they get to work on helpless human captives.
  Are we just going to roll over and go the way of western Europe?
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:01pm
- GoVege
  
  I’m sorry if this offends meat-eaters, but this news story just illustrates how employing people to slaughter animals CAN desensitize those people to the suffering of animals and humans.
  Thank goodness we will soon have an alternative that tastes just like meat.
  
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  August 1, 2017 9:46pm
- simpleton1
  
  NZ meat industry is big business for us, and naturally to be certified is also big business, that is not transparent.
  http://www.fianz.co.nz/about
  
  The Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand (FIANZ) issues over 9,000 halal certificates each year, for which they charge the meat suppliers. But in addition, over the past twenty years FIANZ has been providing annual grants to its regional associations for dawa activities. ……
  …. gaining individual converts to Islam. For many Muslims it includes the establishing of Islamic enclaves that reveal the power and benefits of Islam to others, while for Islamists it involves the eventual and complete Islamisation of non-Muslim societies, both people and structures….
  ……. financing the construction of mosques and Islamic centres across New Zealand, including in Auckland, Hamilton, Palmerston North, Wellington, Dunedin, Tauranga, Invercargill and Rotorua. Future plans include the construction of Islamic schools, Islamic libraries and a resource and research centre in partnership with institutions such as the Islamic Development Bank.
  FIANZ is believed to have accredited over 1,200 Muslim slaughtermen … http://www.christianfriendlyproducts.com/comment.php?comment.news.7
  
  Many do not realize that the muslim slaughter men move, if able go through to residency and then can go to another job, requiring another immigrant muslim slaughter man.
  
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  August 1, 2017 11:59pm
nasska

In Otara the recent world book day was a massive success. The manager of Paper Plus was astounded, “I’ve never known us have as many books stolen in one day, ” he said.
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August 1, 2017 8:21pm
- Gabby
  
  You have to laugh at the boss’ jokes right nutsack.
  
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  August 1, 2017 8:25pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Kiwiblog comments policy (a reminder for Gabby)
    
    Trolling
    
    Trolling I define as an attempt to deliberately disrupt a conversation by being grossly offensive or massively off topic.
    
    Personal Details
    
    Give other commenters the courtesy of referring to them by the name or alias they use on this blog.
    
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    August 1, 2017 8:48pm
    - Gabby
      
      Never cease to be impressed by your total lack of hypocrisy.
      
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      August 1, 2017 9:11pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Gabby:
        
        I’ve seen some of your comments at The Standard and, if you could only lift your game, you could actually contribute to some interesting discussions on Kiwiblog. Over to you. If you’d rather say “two licks poo” and other silly things, then so be it.
        
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        August 1, 2017 10:59pm
      - Gabby
        
        One mindless slogan repeated interminably deserves another, I always say.
        
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        August 1, 2017 11:03pm
stigie

Take it easy on Gabby Nostra, he/she’s just out of nappies and trying to walk upright !~
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August 1, 2017 9:00pm
Manolo

Will The General succeed?
https://apnews.com/290dfd4f9e364a29ba0e4d7f6e7ad9aa/Kelly-flexes-muscle-his-first-day-on-the-job-at-White-House
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