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Chuck Bird

The Pope should do his job. Cardinal Pell should be ex-communicated if he does not return to Oz.

Vatican rocked: Police raid drug-fuelled gay orgy at cardinal’s apartment

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11886097
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July 6, 2017 8:04am
- Andrei
  
  Read the story Chuck and you will find that the allegations come from an Italian tabloid and that it wasn’t a Cardinal’s Apartment that was raided but that of a priest who works for him in any case
  
  It is inaccurate headlines like this in the Herald that strongly suggest that Cardinal Pell is not going to get a fair trial but rather he is going to be subjected to a show trial reminiscent of the worst days of the Soviet Union
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:43am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    What about all the alleged victims? Have they just made up the allegations?
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:52am
    - doggone7
      
      Alleged victims in that raid on that flat?
      
      The headline, “Vatican rocked: Police raid drug-fuelled gay orgy at cardinal’s apartment” and the ‘report’ prey on ignorance and prejudice.
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:57am
    - kowtow
      
      Possibly. There’s an awful lot of headline and not a lot of evidence when it comes to these things.
      
      “The £1 million police investigation into allegations that Sir Edward Heath was a paedophile is being wound up amid claims it has found no evidence to justify tarnishing the former prime minister’s reputation.”
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/18/police-wind-sir-edward-heath-sex-abuse-probe/
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:03am
      - Fletch
        
        The same sort of thing happened to Cliff Richard. It was blared in the media that he was under investigation for sex charges then he was cleared. His name was dragged through the tabloids though.
        
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/16/sir-cliff-richard-cleared-of-sex-assault-claims-after-prosecutor/
        
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        July 6, 2017 12:52pm
    - KevOB
      
      Excessive police zeal can release false memories.
      The more damaging the allegation the greater the burden of proof. Charges for “historical offences” are unlikely to meet evidential standards.
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:23am
    - kowtow
      
      Remember this?
      
      “Fears of mass murder and unspeakable child torture first came to light when deputy police chief Lenny Harper told the world’s media that ‘at least’ six children had been killed at the home.”
      
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084985/4m-Jersey-House-Horrors-investigation-shut-police-chiefs-admit-NO-children-murdered.html
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:58am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, probably, and encouraged by the anti-catholic people to do just that.
      
      The allegations are old and not really subject to any checking. One is, I believe, an allegation that Pell, while swimming at a local swimming pool, fondled the genitals of 1 or 2 boys while playing with them. No complaint made at the time, how the hell can you possibly decide on the truth or otherwise of such allegations when there is a poisonous atmosphere of hate being built up against Pell ?
      
      Pell has agreed to travel back to Australia for the trial; but his chances of a fair trial are pretty low.
      
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      July 6, 2017 11:13am
      - Paulus
        
        It is doubtful he will return to Australia as he is not well enough to travel.
        He may well go online instead as the Catholics in Australia feel he will not get a fair trial from the media – and they could be right.
        
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        July 6, 2017 1:42pm
    - Kimbo
      
      What about all the alleged victims? Have they just made up the allegations?
      
      And Chuck Bird, Kiwiblog’s resident mine expert, NZ First party publicist and promoter of the Friday night Happy Hour at the Delta, Ngaruawahia and part-time lawyer reveals that legal safeguards such as innocent until proven guilty should no longer apply, and instead our justice system should revert to witch trials and trial-by-media. Xome on, Chuck, why don’t you go all-in and demand trial-by-ordeal?
      
      Is that Winston Peters policy, Chuck? Also, have you had that paternity test yet?
      
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      July 6, 2017 11:32am
  - big bruv
    
    Andrei demonstrates just how far, and how low followers of the Sky Fairy will go to defend their evil religion.
    You don’t get much lower than attacking a victim of child abuse, well done Andrei.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:13am
    - Andrei
      
      Big Bruv shows just how far, and how low bigots will go to slander people who do not share their narrow world view.
      
      I merely pointed out that the Herald story does not actually involve a Cardinal at all, let alone Cardinal Pell, despite the lurid headline and Chuck’s comment upon it
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:35am
  - GoVege
    
    If the Catholic Church would face the truth that being gay is normal for millions of people, I’m sure there would be a lot less pedophilia taking place.
    Or gay orgies even.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:53am
    - MickMac
      
      Sure GoVege
      Try and tell that to the children Homosexual Catholic Priests buggered for decades, as the vatican shielded and protected them.
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:35am
      - GoVege
        
        Mickmac: it’s like when guys are shut up in jails.
        Normally heterosexual males will find other outlets for their drives.
        
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        July 6, 2017 11:53am
    - Fletch
      
      How can you define being gay as “normal” when homosexual conduct goes against the very nature of what is considered the bodies normal biological functions?
      
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      July 6, 2017 12:56pm
      - GoVege
        
        Fletch, there are no hard and fast rules in nature.
        All beings adapt to whatever environment they find themselves in..
        E.g. lately elephants have been observed humping rhinos in Africa.
        Obviously this is not “normal biological function” but that doesn’t seem to worry them.
        
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        July 6, 2017 1:42pm
- SPC
  
  A little misleading.
  
  There is no indication Pell will not return to Oz (there have been past hearings where he has been questioned).
  
  And it was another Cardinal’s apartment etc.
  
  PS Appointing Pell to the banking position was probably an attempt to get him away from Oz (given no convictions he could not be sacked).
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:59am
  - SPC
    
    Given Pell is a conservative, a position like banking made him less of a problem to the more liberal Francis.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:01am
  - SPC
    
    The Vatican is not funding Pell’s legal defence, local Catholics are doing a fund-raising.
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:11am
  - ztev
    
    “no indication Pell will not return to Oz (there have been past hearings where he has been questioned”
    
    NOT by returning to Australia, I think he said he had health issues and couldn’t travel for previous enquiry
    
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    July 6, 2017 11:06am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Correct, Last Year The Oz police travelled to Rome to interview Pell about sex abuse allegations.
      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/world/australia/cardinal-george-pell-charged-sexual-abuse.html
      
      Pell gave evidence by video link at the Royal Commission Inquiry into Institutional Responses to Child Sex Abuse.
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-05/cardinal-george-pell-too-ill-to-child-sex-abuse-inquiry-lawyers/7140584
      
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      July 6, 2017 11:57am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Yes, Pell’s had two heart attacks and at the time of the enquiry was advised to to travel. He’s in fact (as noted) answered questions by video link and has in fact been subject to more questions (and scurrilous rumours) than anyone else involved. That is despite the fact that it was under his watch, when he became archbishop, that recognition of the problem occurred and a program was immediately developed to deal with it. Before that Pell had no ability to change policy and the previous arch-bishop was responsible for not taking action.
      
      I see this as quite simply a modern witch-hunt. The catholic Church was a haven for a coterie of pedophile priests in the 1960’s to 1970’s. Once Pell was Arch-Bishop he immediately instituted policies to stop the abuse and to recognize and compensate those abused – the “Melbourne Response” I think the policy was called. So these are historical abuses going back mostly 30-50 years.
      
      Just 12 or so years ago there was a coterie of teachers at a Private School in Australia that abused boys for a number of years before being exposed. The current head of the ABC was a member of the board that managed the school at that time. No specific action was taken despite the rumours of the abuse until the story finally became public. The Australian commission has spent far less time (basically none at all) on this modern scandal involving teachers and public figures and almost none on historic abuses at schools. It is an anti-catholic witch hunt, and Australia has form in this area.
      
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      July 6, 2017 12:21pm
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  We probably should run a sweepstake as to when Pell will be “too ill” to travel.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:01am
  - Dave Mann
    
    He’s probably brushing up on his Spanish right now in preparation for a quick vanishing act to Argentina.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:51am
Left Right and Centre

It’s a big day in NZ today . . .
That’s right – it’s an apology for the gay convictions.
No wait – also some big parade is on in Auckland.
The boats are a lot quicker now of course – and the parade is also set to last around twenty minutes as well.

Apparently the crew and boat will end the parade in the water. Quickest way to get anywhere afterwards eh ?

KB announces national holiday to honour ‘road lice’ crew members.

Labour / Greens bemoan inequality of people who have the day off to go to parade vs those who don’t.

WWF to set up special park on North Shore to protect crew members from talent poachers – offering Louis Vuitton stuffed full of cash.
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July 6, 2017 8:06am
Paulus

I understand from a senior member of the Auckland Council that Maori have hijacked and taken control effectively of the parade for the America’s Cup today.
It is said that it is their harbour so they should take control.
I will be interested to see their input to the holding of the cup if held in Auckland – or any other venue.
Since the last Auckland races times for Maori and Council’s have changed exponentially.
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July 6, 2017 8:09am
- alex Masterley
  
  Just as well that I am not going to the parade then.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:12am
- cmm
  
  Can’t wait for the new Americas Cup rules then.
  
  All boats to be made out of logs?
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:16am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    You can bet there will be a Maori component and a taniwai’s nest to be appeased somewhere and that squash twat lurking to really show the world how multicultural and PC retarded we are
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:40am
  - RF
    
    Bundles of flax tied together with vines. That will do it.
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:38am
  - Paulus
    
    No the next America’s Cup races will be in outriggers and wakas.
    
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    July 6, 2017 1:45pm
- Inandout
  
  It is going to rain on our parade; thank you bloody much taniwha.
  
  The 2000 parade will unlikely be repeated by Goff. The bloody barefaced cheek that this Mayor, who spat at our Vietnam Vets, should even dare to attend another Queen St parade.
  
  ‘Brass, pipe and artillery bands will lead the parade and stilt-walkers, roaming entertainers, Sky City cheerleaders and the Italian flag-waving group from Arezzo will also take part’.
  
  ‘All the local councils in the Auckland region will chip in to pay about half the parade bill, estimated at between $150,000 and $200,000. Sponsors will pick up the rest of the tab’.
  
  300,000 people lined the streets in 2000. A final word from the arsehole:
  
  If you’re planning on driving into the city today, Auckland Mayor Phil Goff has one word for you: “Tough.”
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:57am
  - rangitoto
    
    Strangely the traffic driving in this morning was good. A bit like school holidays. Maybe we should have a parade every day.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:48am
    - Biscuit
      
      Rangitoto, me and the love of my life went for an early morning 5 km stroll just before (so as to avoid the sheer heat of Wellington’s mid-winter sun) and just happened to walk past a local primary school.
      
      87528752735472375427547235723754723 cars being driven by parents dropping off their littlies for a day of learning.
      
      Next week, with those littlies off for a fortnight, there’ll be tumbleweeds blowing along the same street.
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:57am
- Longknives
  
  Rumours of a ‘Taniwha’ in Auckland Harbour?
  As we all know- Only a substantial amount of ‘Koha’ can appease such a Beast….
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:59am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Lives under the bridge, we all know that Longknives.
    Feeds not on fish, but ‘koha’ Watch how much ‘koha’ is needed for the Hauraki Gulf when it comes to defending the Americas Cup. I reckon the races should be held way the fuck up at the Mokohinaus
    
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    July 6, 2017 5:13pm
- Dave Mann
  
  I saw an ad here in KB for an organisation called Hobson’s Pledge which aims to overturn the racist policies of our PC biculturalism (my description).
  
  http://www.hobsonspledge.nz
  
  I think if they get any traction during this coming election things will start to change for the better…. here’s hoping anyway….
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:03am
  - ztev
    
    gee, thats how much traction they have got if you just noticed something thats been going for quite a while
    
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    July 6, 2017 11:08am
- Fletch
  
  Hopefully, some Maori activist won’t attack the cup again with a hammer like last time we had it.
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:00pm
Monique Watson

Where the Fuck is the usual morning poster? William of Dickingham?
By the way Amelia Earhart survived the crash. And in case no-one noticed, there was an ICBM launch yesterday.
Trump should take it straight away to those Fuckers.
Or one fucker in particular. Kim Jong-un.
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July 6, 2017 8:11am
- RalphT
  
  Ah yes, where is William of Ockingham, he is sorely missed; like a cold sore.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:17am
  - srylands
    
    In his last post he indicated that he was going away for some time and would not be posting.
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:28am
    - sooty
      
      Jail, maybe?
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:57am
    - Sponge
      
      Good.
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:57am
    - kowtow
      
      Doing a Captain Oates?
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:57am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      You read it!
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:01am
  - rangitoto
    
    Maybe he got frozen by global warming.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:49am
- Lance
  
  One should not summon that which should not be summoned
  Even mentioning the trolls name is dangerous
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:26am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  If you are missing William (in reality, Dennis Horne) you can locate him today at ClimateConversation.
  http://www.climateconversation.org.nz/2017/07/is-stephen-hawking-above-physics/comment-page-1/#comment-1534446
  
  He’s got 4 posts up there today.
  He’s either posted vey early in the morning (1:30am) or he’s on the other side of the World.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:30am
  - RalphT
    
    Maggie, don’t you mean out of this world?
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:54am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Hi Maggy, thanks for the link. Went there and had a look and found this
    
    http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/07/05/fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/
    Love the headline
    
    Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann – ‘Commits contempt of court’
    
    Should get the warmists sweating a bit….
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:27pm
- 4077th
  
  That little fuckwit is laughing at all of us. Nobody has done anything to stop him and likely they won’t. So long as his fat arse is parked next to South Korea and Japan he will be able to do as he pleases and he knows it.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:57am
- KevOB
  
  I am surprised that Kim has not been discretely nobbled already.
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:25am
- Liberty
  
  The real worry is Trump is less stable than Kim Jong-un.
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:51am
Happychappy

Winston First the Politician that holds every other MP to standards about doing their job and making sure your attendance in Parliament meets the public’s opinion of why you were elected shows hi true colours again by thinking he is allowed to turn up when he thinks it is necessary. For the last month he has made a mockery of Parliament by being out campaigning instead of keeping his idiot MP’s under control in the house and this is the same Hypocrite that held Hone to account over his attendance in Parliament.
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July 6, 2017 8:12am
- peterwn
  
  Give the guy a break – he has two campaigns to run – for his own seat and for the NZF party vote throughout NZ.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:17am
  - G152
    
    As the only elected member of his party he’s recently been noticeably absent in the House with the SAS mechanic keeping the nuts tightened
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:25am
    - VicParking
      
      His deptuy the SAS oil changer asked exactly the same question yesterday as he made on tuesday. It will be interesting to see if he asks it again today.
      Mind you it was a change from Winston who has asked the same question for the last 20 years.
      “Do you stand by all your Statements”
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:39am
      - Liberty
        
        “His current deputy. The SAS oil changer”
        Fixed that for you.
        
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        July 6, 2017 10:59am
      - VicParking
        
        Sorry Liberty reported you by mistake, so much for thanking you for the fix. If the comments section worked at more than three letters per minute maybe one could check ones postings better.
        
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        July 6, 2017 11:28am
    - Biscuit
      
      I don;t much mind MMP but I fail to see why List Members of Parliament even need to be AT the Parliament.
      
      Their votes should be proxied and they should do their MMPing from home.
      
      I gaze at (for example) the NZ First mob each Question Time and have to really think about just who which of their Members IS…
      
      Mind, I am similarly at a loss to remember the names of many of the Green crowd, either!
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:03am
      - Gabby
        
        Who would ask Tim Macindope his annual patsy question.
        
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        July 6, 2017 12:55pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Why should we peterwn? Parliament rises today for a two-week school holiday recess. Why did Peters not schedule his bus trip to start tomorrow, when the House is not sitting.
    
    We are paying him as an MP to turn up to Parliament, not to give the taxpayer the upraised single digit .
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:24am
    - peterwn
      
      I have said previously that Parliament needs one of these for MP’s:
      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Time_clock_at_wookey_hole_cave_museum.JPG/220px-Time_clock_at_wookey_hole_cave_museum.JPG
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:18am
      - Gruffydd
        
        For Winston one of these.
        
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        July 6, 2017 11:17am
      - peterwn
        
        Gruffydd – he might already have one. He would be fully aware of his drink limitations even after having a few since as far as I know he has not compromised himself as a MP. Arguably the drink even if taken slightly to excess does him a power of good. Compare with Rob Muldoon who called a snap election under the influence (I thought at the time the system was fail-safe).
        
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        July 6, 2017 1:03pm
    - Liberty
      
      I suspect the NZF caucus is a bit testy with a possible new number two.
      Winston might find it safer out with his core supporters.
      The old and the deluded.
      
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      July 6, 2017 11:48am
- niggly
  
  Serious question, does anyone know what Winston/NZF’s achievements for Northland have been since Winnie won the seat back in 2015?
  
  (Oh excluding Andrew Little effectively standing his Labour candidate aside at the time – although tempting, not sure if Winston can actually claim that as an achievement, more like another self-inflicted shot in the foot by Little)!
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:52am
  - holysheet
    
    He’s propped up a few bars up there. The drunken dwarf never strays far from a bar.
    
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    July 6, 2017 11:20am
Left Right and Centre

Breaking news – missing kiwi America’s Cup tourist finally reappears – claims one night stand left him lost in ‘Bermuda Triangle’.
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July 6, 2017 8:13am
- sooty
  
  Oh, Trev. What have you been up to?
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:03am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I think a Bermuda Triangle looks more inviting than a Brazilian Strip.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:33am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    We all have preferences, unfettered is mine ?
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:07am
peterwn

So the Greens have an election policy to spend $2.3B on a railway to Auckland Airport by 2021. When National makes an election promise it has to stick to it. However Labour, Greens and NZ First can promise pretty well what they like because they know they are unlikely to be held to the promises and can argue they could not get support from coalition partners.
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July 6, 2017 8:25am
- srylands
  
  Here comes Marquess to condemn the rail link to the airport because it is uneconomic. “We already have a perfectly good road to the aiport”, said Ms Marquess.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:36am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, a railway to the airport is idiocy exemplified.
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:24pm
- SPC
  
  Just ask Greens and Labour how any policy which costs money fits within their 30% GDP spending cap.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:39am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The Greens would be lucky to get the light rail link consented before 2021, let alone designed and built. Consenting alone will be a mission, and likely to require the kind of RMA reforms which the Greens have vehemently opposed to date.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:27am
  - jp_1983
    
    Well the pro car lobby could clog up the Enviornment Court with delays like the anticar lobby does to any new road they want built.
    
    Good enough for them – good enough for us
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:25am
- Dave Mann
  
  I’m a raving right wing anti-green, but even I can see the immense sense of having a railway line going to the airport.
  
  Not all ideas that come from people you disagree with are automatically evil, stupid or bad.
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:16am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I think the rail idea is a great one Dave, but it needs to be properly and carefully planned, not rushed through because the Greens want an America’s Cup headline.
    
    Last I saw the proposed route took it out and back along Dominion Road. Anyone who has ever driven along there, especially from Balmoral Road south, will know the challenge that getting a double track on what is already a very narrow and congested road corridor will bring.
    
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    July 6, 2017 11:11am
    - Gruffydd
      
      Build a Dedicated Bus lane makes more sense.
      
      With autonomous driving rapidly approaching it is also far more flexible than steel lines for moving passengers.
      Onehunga has trains.
      https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/east-west-link
      The new corridor will allow easy access from a transport hub at Onehunga into the motorway south and north with the new tunnel opening up west and also to the north as well as the trains.
      
      As we shift from the 1/4 acre into apartments more will not have the room or the need for cars.
      
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      July 6, 2017 11:52am
- Liberty
  
  I’m a big supporter of rail. But Auckland is not London.
  And currently there is a very good. Frequent and cheap bus service to the CBD.
  The only down side to the service is Auckland Airport treats bus users like lepers.
  With appalling facilities. Wellington and Christchurch are no better.
  It is a bit third world having to stand outside in a winter blizzard.
  
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  July 6, 2017 11:22am
- Gabby
  
  Stick to it like those new bridges in Northland that Slimy Britches ‘promised’.
  
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  July 6, 2017 12:52pm
Huevon

Fix android
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July 6, 2017 8:34am
- srylands
  
  Yes damn it. It is like posting through a wall of used chewing gum.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:37am
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Even white liberals are beginning to wake up to the black tsunami heading our way:

“Microsoft founder Bill Gates has warned that Africa’s population explosion will overwhelm Europe unless the continent makes it more difficult for migrants to reach its shores…

…Gates also spoke of a dilemma caused by ‘the German attitude to refugees’, referring to Chancellor Angela Merkel’s decision to open Europe’s borders to illegal migrants arriving from the third world.

“On the one hand you want to demonstrate generosity and take in refugees, but the more generous you are, the more word gets around about this — which in turn motivates more people to leave Africa,” Gates told the Sunday newspaper.

“Germany cannot possibly take in the huge, massive number of people who are wanting to make their way to Europe.”

Because of this, Gates stressed that “Europe must make it more difficult for Africans to reach the continent via the current transit routes”.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/04/bill-gates-eu-stem-migrants-overwhelmed/

Gates thinks aid programs for Africa will do the trick too. Good luck with that, that’s what we have been doing forever and things just keep getting worse over there. And with 2 billion extra negroes in the coming decades it will get worse FAST.
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July 6, 2017 8:44am
- EAD_TWO
  
  Even white liberals are beginning to wake up to the black tsunami heading our way
  
  Here is the legendary Millenial Woes in the introduction of his latest video with a stark reminder of our stupor is leading us down the path to:
  
  https://youtu.be/3tYqRp9-jww
  
  The fact is, Whites ARE in danger of going extinct. People’s blindness to this fact is quite amazing and is bourne of seventy years of peace and the attendant decadence and the resulting complacency.
  
  We ARE going extinct, you only have to look around, especially at our cities, and increasingly in our towns to see this process in action.
  Every year, another town in Britain becomes minority White. Every year.
  Every year, another school in Britain becomes minority White.
  
  Every year, there are more mixed-race babies born in Britain than in the year before, and doubtless it is the same in every Western country. Each of the numbers only changes in one direction: the number of non-Whites goes up, the number of mixed babies goes up , the number of Whites goes down.
  
  THERE ARE LAWS TO FACILITATE THIS, THERE ARE ENTERPRISES TO ACCELERATE IT, THERE IS PROPAGANDA TO ENCOURAGE AND CELEBRATE IT, AND THERE ARE LAWS TO STOP ANYONE FROM COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. “
  
  Everyday we are bombarded with incessant propoaganda about how awful it is to be a minority for all the people who come to our countries on their own free will. If being a minority is so bad, why our elites facilitating on a global scale in all gentile countries?
  
  Liberals – if/when whites are turned into a minority, life is going to be like it is in Johannesburg, which, having been there, ain’t the “rainbow nation” of unicorns you’re led to believe. Life is dangerous and cheap.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:00am
  - EAD_TWO
    
    This is a good pictorial summary of how to red pill someone and wake them up from their materialistic stupor:
    
    https://johndenugent.com/images/red-pill-advice.png
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:06am
    - Gabby
      
      That’s for cuck soccers.
      
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      July 6, 2017 1:24pm
  - Longknives
    
    Agree with your thoughts on Johannesburg- I spent a few days there for work and Jesus that place is dangerous! Walked from my Hotel to Nelson Mandela Square (broad daylight) and was followed by some hooded characters clearly eyeing up the Tourist..
    Got a taxi everywhere after that and the stories our regular driver told us were absolutely bloody horrific. (Rape,Murder of Whites and Tourists)
    I travelled through South America a few years ago and never,ever felt as unsafe as I did in Johannesburg!
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:19am
  - GoVege
    
    That might have something to do with the legacy of apartheid.
    Stop panicking EAD.
    I know plenty of brown/mixed race kids who are doctors /lawyers/ accountants/ civil engineers/ policemen.
    Their taxes will be paying your pension. 🙂
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:22am
    - GoVege
      
      I even recall when my first grandchild was born 7 years ago.
      The ignorant bossy white Kiwi midwives nearly did him in.
      It was a lovely African doctor who got him out in time to save him.
      
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      July 6, 2017 12:00pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      legacy of apartheid. Most of the criminals were born after 1994. Never experienced a day of it. With the present mob in charge, South Africa is stuffed. Funny thing is that New Zealand is desperate to ensure that apartheid is alive and well in this part of the world, and yet most of the left can’t see it.
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:09pm
- Jack5
  
  JH-McF says of the invasion of Europe: “Gates thinks aid programs for Africa will do the trick too.”
  
  Bit the way his Microsoft developed MS-DOS then Windows. Problem, add another band-aid on the band-aid on the band-aid.
  
  It’s our money the fucker is spending on keeping up African population growth.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:56am
  - GoVege
    
    He’s trying to stop kids dying I heard.
    If they receive a good upbringing and education as well, they will be more likely to have small families.
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:10pm
Lance

With the security of consistency the Hoorald has a leading item on a couple of nincompoops who leave thousands in cash in their cabin bag, go away and leave it unattended and now blame Emirates for the cash being stolen.

FFS

If I did something that stupid I would just shut up about it and wear it as my own dumb ass fault.
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July 6, 2017 8:44am
- marcw
  
  On a day that Emirates is proudly celebrating it’s support of our Americas Cup success, the horrid decides to print a headline report on its website of a man who had his money stolen from a cabin bag while on an overseas flight. Now, reporting the incident I can agree is a useful and cautioning message, and it would appear that the passenger and the Airline did all they could to help find the perpetrator, without success.
  
  Where the horrid shows it’s true colours is that they then go on to print unwarranted and gratuitous comments from the passenger criticising Emirates. eg. “Every time I hear Team NZ I really wish they would get a new sponsor. You’re spending millions on a race boat. If you could give us a couple grand we’d be the happiest New Zealanders in the country.”
  
  What is the purpose for printing this crap as a news item? And if I was Emirates NZ advertising manager I would be cancelling any NZME advertising until they publicly apologised.
  
  NZ Herald, what a pathetic excuse of a newspaper you publish.
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:08am
- peterwn
  
  And with the usual cradle to grave entitleitis they expect Emirates to ‘refund’ them. Presumably the receipts disappeared too. I smell a rat. If I had that sort of € in my bag I would be carrying it into the rest room or where-ever I went. Come to think of it the money could have disappeared before they even boarded the flight.
  
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  July 6, 2017 11:07am
- Paulus
  
  Surely the security cameras would have an idea – after all it was a small section of the plane in first class.
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:52pm
Happychappy

peterwn: Then send James Shaw out to apologise for how public perceived it as it was not meant to mislead them .
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July 6, 2017 8:45am
- peterwn
  
  I think James Shaw is reasonably happy to be Greens’ second fiddle and fall guy for the present. His time has yet to come. I think he will be having a little chat with Bill English (with coffee) after the election.
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:11pm
Monique Watson

Oh Fuck, he’s running for NZ First?
Can’t string a paragraph together and puts all his energy and gibberish into stringing his random shit into something that resembles human speech. Prime candidate for NZ first.
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July 6, 2017 8:53am
- Dave Mann
  
  Who are you talking about?
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:28am
- Nermal
  
  Can’t you make a simple post without resorting to obscenities?
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:02pm
NK

Two posts immediately below: 1) Housing market not working; and 2) petrol market not working.

Fortunately we have a government that understands markets and how important and effective they are.

Oh, hang on…………..
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July 6, 2017 9:27am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Bollocks NK. The housing post is about a market correction, and price stabilisation. Surely that is the market working as intended.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:35am
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    Bill English gave a speech a couple of years ago where he bemoaned the fact the housing market was not functioning. But he was late to that, as people such as myself have realised that for 15 years or so. In my job, I see it daily.
    
    It was the Reserve Bank, separate to the government, that has put the skids on.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:48am
    - rangitoto
      
      So it’s working the way it is supposed to.
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:54am
      - NK
        
        And I suppose Bill English was talking crap in ~2015.
        
        Anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see, in Auckland at least, that the so-called market has been a shambles for years.
        
        It shouldn’t take a banking regulator to intervene, if it was functioning correctly. If it was functioning correctly, housing affordability for first home buyers wouldn’t be at its worst in twenty years (confirmed yesterday). If it was functioning correctly, land prices inisde the RUB wouldn’t be 6 times more expensive than land outside the RUB. If it was functioning correctly, the median house price wouldn’t be over a million dollars in Auckland and 10 times the median household income.
        
        But by all means please continue to blame Labour or the Auckland Council or the Reserve Bank. It’s got nothing to do with the current government., They mustn’t take responsibility. After all, they’ve only been in power for 3,285 days.
        
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        July 6, 2017 10:33am
      - Ed Snack
        
        The basic problem is cheap money and a lack of returns. Housing has been the favoured investment because it is easy to get into and generates tangible returns. In an era of cheap mony that’s something that most other investments can’t match.
        
        So you’re surprised that house prices have risen so far, really ? And yet NZ can’t run a “not cheap money” policy on its own as the NZ$ would become way over-valued. So this is largely a world-wide issue and a side effect of monetary policies implemented in all OECD countries.
        
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        July 6, 2017 12:30pm
- Gabby
  
  Bingles is a lazy bugger so ‘not working’ sounds ideal to him.
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:20pm
Gerrit

Sanitarium have got a bit of a PR blunder on their hands. Using a tax payer funded department to prevent a british cereal with similar sounding name to their premium brand being imported.

Whilst not paying a cent in tax due being the commercial arm of a church owned charity.

Could we please vote in a government that will tax commercial activities by charities (church or cultural).

Gives them a huge commercial advantage.

Be you Brethren or Maori, pay taxes on your commercial operations like the rest of have to.
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July 6, 2017 9:37am
- Callum
  
  The only real advantage businesses owned by charities compared to other business is timing. ANY company can donate their profits to a charities and pay no tax. If you want to retain profits or pass those profits to your owners then you pay tax.
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:53am
  - Jack5
    
    Callum at 9.53 seems to me to be wrong in his statement about businesses and charity.
    
    1. The IRD web site indicates that as well as making tax-free deductions to registered charities,
    a company can make a maximum tax-free donation to what is called a donee organisation of just $4000. The IRD runs its own list of nearly 3000 approved “donee organisations”.
    
    2. Companies can usually pass on to shareholders imputation credits with dividends from tax-paid profit. The credits, which match tax the company has already paid, prevent double taxation on the same profit (company AND shareholder).
    
    3. Registered charities with businesses – such as the Ngai Tahu group and the Seventh Day Adventists’ Sanitarium are exempt from company tax. This related to the proportion they themselves judge their “charitable activities” are conducted within NZ.
    
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    July 6, 2017 7:06pm
- Random T Person
  
  One thing we can say about WhaleOil, Slater when bought stays bought. He’s leaped to Sanitarium’s defence when one of his half dozen or so commenters pointed out the tax free thing…
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:59am
  - big bruv
    
    Does anybody visit that site these days?
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:13am
    - Random T Person
      
      I like the begging bowl posts, personally. There was one the other day begging for 300 bucks for a microphone for podcasts! Closely followed by one slamming the beggars of West Auckland, for extra LOLs.
      
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      July 6, 2017 11:57am
  - lifesgood
    
    He’s a seventh day Adventist so just sticking up for his own. Same reason he hates Catholics.
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:46pm
    - rightoverlabour
      
      I thought he was a Presbyterian and that’s why he hates Catholics. Married one, though.
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:14pm
- Paulus
  
  I always supposed that Weetabix outdated Sanitarium by many years.
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:54pm
SPC

Given North Korea has gone ICBM, this long time slow burner is going to get nasty.

The Americans have mentioned the fxfx you term to China AND Russia – “sanctions on countries that trade with North Korea” (Chinese pressure on North Korea of late to please Trump was alleviated by co-ordinated help from Russia to North Korea).
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July 6, 2017 9:51am
- SPC
  
  The Chinese and Russian goal is to leverage North Korean nukes on ICBM’s to offer a new peace arrangement – whereby the US of A take their forces out of Korea in return for nuclear disarmament by the north (and maybe China and Russia guarantee South Korean security).
  
  China would see this as the beginning of the removal of the Americans from their sphere.
  
  The end of arms sales to Taiwan, American forces leaving Japan, and a new border in the South China Sea imposed on ASEAN also on their agenda.
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:02am
  - Jack5
    
    You think America would abandon South Korea to the maniac clan of Kim Jong-un? When Seoul, which is close to the border, could be damaged by North Korean artillery?
    
    Incidentally the threat to Seoul may be exaggerated according to this report from
    Stratfor, a controversial web source but which seems to have some knowledge in this case:
    
    Of the vast artillery force deployed by the North along the border, only a small portion — Koksan 170-mm self-propelled guns, as well as 240-mm and 300-mm multiple launch rocket systems — are capable of actually reaching Seoul. Broadly speaking, the bulk of Pyongyang’s artillery can reach only into the northern border area of South Korea or the northern outskirts of Seoul.
    
    All forms of North Korean artillery have problems with volume and effectiveness of fire, but those issues are often more pronounced for the longer-range systems. Problems include the high malfunction rate of indigenous ammunition, poorly trained artillery crews, and a reluctance to expend critical artillery assets by exposing their positions.
    
    https://worldview.stratfor.com/analysis/how-north-korea-would-retaliate
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:21am
    - Jack5
      
      For a sceptical view of Stratfor have a look at this piece from the Atlantic:
      
      https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/stratfor-is-a-joke-and-so-is-wikileaks-for-taking-it-seriously/253681/
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:26am
    - SPC
      
      The US of A would rather supply a missile defence system and prevent North Korea from getting a nuclear capability.
      
      But with a new President of South Korea not committed to installing the missile shield and inclined to talks with Pyongyang, this is the right time for a quick emergence of ICBM capability and minitiarisation of the nuke for the war head (this the last stage for nuclear weapons capability seems to be delayed until they have US mainland range) – so the US cannot react until it is at some risk to themselves.
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:34am
      - Jack5
        
        SPC, you say: “The US of A would rather … prevent North Korea from getting a nuclear capability.”
        
        Bit late for that isn’t it?
        
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        July 6, 2017 10:42am
      - SPC
        
        Yet the USA and Japan respond to the ICBM test by saying they will not allow North Korea to become nuclear weapons capable (which means a nuke that fits inside a missile warhead).
        
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        July 6, 2017 10:53am
  - Dave Mann
    
    That’s a very astute analysis. Cheers.
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:43am
Ross12

CNN’s threat on the Reddit kid is backfiring spectacularly. The memes are coming out “thick and fast”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-05/cnn-blackmails-reddit-user-over-trump-wrestling-video-threatens-expose-identity-0

Love the one with the rubbish bin.
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July 6, 2017 10:03am
- cha
  
  Reddit kid
  
  Reddit kid my arse.
  
  He says he’s 37 years old
  
  https://archive.is/Q4hBC
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:40am
  - Ross12
    
    In the end does the age make much difference?
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:13pm
    - cha
      
      In the end does the age make much difference?
      
      To you and I, not one whit.
      
      But it mattered enough to your fellow travelers that they lied about the age of the 37 year old reddit kid and it mattered to them when they defended the 37 year old reddit kid with threats.
      
      We are going to track down your parents.
      We are going to track down your siblings.
      We are going to track down your spouses.
      We are going to track down your children. Because hey, that’s what you guys get to do, right? We’re going to see how you like it when our reporters are hunting down your children.
      
      https://archive.is/P4ECa#selection-1583.0-1593.179
      
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      July 6, 2017 12:40pm
  - Gabby
    
    Who’s the ‘kid’ going to turn out to work for.
    
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    July 6, 2017 1:09pm
Jack5

The Hooerald has an interesting piece on national superannuation.

A “tax lecturer” (they recruit them from the interrogation team of the Foreign Legion), says:

“… over a person’s average life, that person will receive back more in superannuation than he or she ever paid in income tax.”

The report doesn’t say whether the lecturer took inflation into inflation. If not, his analysis may be well exaggerated or even, not worth a nob of goat dung.

The lecturer does, however, blow away the idea that immigration is the answer. From the Hooerald report:

“The maths look even worse when including people who do not contribute an ‘average’ amount of income tax. That includes citizens who spend part or even most of their working life outside the New Zealand workforce and immigrants – who are able to enjoy full superannuation benefits without paying taxes in New Zealand for their full working life.”

[ The taxpayer doesn’t include the parents migrants were able to bring into the country and, often until recently, get superannuation.}

You can read the full report here:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/university-of-auckland/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503679&objectid=11883593
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July 6, 2017 10:04am
- Jack5
  
  A link to the superannuation for immigrants’ parents, which seems to have ended (that is joining, ended), last year.
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/315435/migrants%27-parents-cost-nz-%27tens-of-millions%27
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:06am
- ex-golfer
  
  So what?
  NZ Superannuation has never been a tax rebate scheme. Its a benefit, pure and simple – designed to assist people in their older years – not provide a luxurious lifestyle just because they might have paid a bit of tax over their lifetimes.
  
  The message has been loud and clear for a very long time – put aside for your retirement in order to “supplement” Super otherwise life will be very tough.
  
  Unfortunately the “she’ll be right” attitude of NZrs in general means that a lot will get to 65 and wonder why Super on its own won’t keep them in the life to which they have become accustomed.
  
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  July 6, 2017 4:45pm
big bruv

Is there any truth to the rumour that Theresa May and Bill English are related? Given that both are insipid and uninspiring as leaders there must be some truth to it.
I say that because I’m starting to pick up a lot of ‘it’s time for a change’ comments from people I talk to about politics. These are the very people who don’t take a lot of interest in day to day politics but they are the people who decide elections.
I don’t think it would take much for these people to switch to Labour. One or two good sound bites, perhaps even some policies stolen from Comrade Corbyn might just be enough to tip the scales far enough for the left to form a government.
The really hard to thing to swallow is if the pendulum does start to swing there is nothing that Bill English will be able to do about it such is his lack of charisma.
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July 6, 2017 10:11am
- Jack5
  
  By that Labourish argument, Big Bruv, you would have Andrew Little related to Jeremy Corbyn.
  
  Who are these people you are talking to, Big Bruv, on whom you base your predictions?
  
  Those I speak to have written off Labour as once the party of the working people, now the party of “progs” who, with the Melon Greens, would dis-assemble the country into a near-peasant economy.
  
  In the meantime, Big Bruv, good luck with convincing anyone that Little is a man of charisma. Little? Little who?
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:34am
  - big bruv
    
    Jack5
    The people I have been speaking with are not like us. These people do not live and breath politics, they think about it once every three years.
    Also, I note that you (in typical National party cheer leading fashion) have taken what I have said to be an endorsement of Little. For the record I cannot stand the man nor anything that he represents.
    Now, getting back to the people who decide the election, the normal people. These are the ones who are vulnerable to a argument that says ‘you guys have been doing it tough, we are going to reward you’. If Little promises enough little treats to enough sector groups then he can win. If you doubt this just remember what interest free student loans did for the Klark female.
    
    So what will Bill English do to counter this?. Well we already know one of the things he will do is promise us tax cuts. The only problem with that is that the Nat’s have played that card three times now and nobody believes them any longer.
    
    Make no mistake, this election is for Labour to lose, all they have to do is offer the right bribes to the right people, suggest that the ‘rich pricks’ might need a bit of a kicking and they can win.
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:26pm
Captain Mainwaring

What’s all this crap about a separate rail line to Auckland Airport?
Why not just join the airport to the existing rail network with a spur line from Puhinui,? Should take only a couple of years from design to completion.
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July 6, 2017 10:15am
- peterwn
  
  It is easy to promise – they can simply say later that they could not get Labour’s/Winnie’s support. They cannot make it bottom line stuff.
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:28am
- Jack5
  
  Would you thread the line between Auckland’s 50 volcanoes, Captain?
  
  The Auckland City Council says:
  
  When and where future eruptions will occur is unknown. Based on the number and frequency of past eruptions it is estimated there is about a 1 in 1000 (0.1 per cent) chance an eruption could occur in any one year.
  
  This means that there is an 8 per cent probability (1 in 12.5 chance) an eruption will occur in the AVF field over any 80 year period.
  
  “AVF” means, of course, Auckland Volcanic Field. Maybe that’s that they should call Goff: Mayor of the Auckland Volcanic Field. And the “Blues” might be reborn as the “Volcanoes”.
  
  The last eruption was about 600 years ago, the council says. It formed Rangitoto Island in the harbour. Maori living on Motutapu Island witnessed it.
  
  (Note the “about”. It’s oral history. That’s why the council uses “about” as an adjective here. When referring to pre-colonial New Zealand, “about” should be dropped as a qualifier only in special cases. These are when it is being used by oral historians in the great NZ History Re-write.)
  
  http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/en/environmentwaste/naturalhazardsemergencies/hazards/pages/volcanichazards.aspx#avf
  
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  July 6, 2017 11:09am
  - Gruffydd
    
    1 in 1000 (0.1 per cent) chance an eruption could occur in any one year.
    Already 600 years without an eruption .
    1/400 chance remains for any given year.
    An eruption will occur in the AVF field in a life time 80 years?
    20% 1 in 5.
    
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    July 6, 2017 11:33am
- jcuk
  
  They could do it like Los Angeles has and simply have free bus connection to the railway station.
  The ‘G’ bus when I was there a few years back.
  
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  July 6, 2017 11:16am
Manolo

The sellers of smoke’s sins of the flesh:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4667098/Vatican-police-break-gay-orgy-apartment.html

Vatican police have broken up a gay orgy at the home of the secretary to one of Pope Francis’s key advisers, it has been reported.

The flat belonged to the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which is in charge of tackling clerical sexual abuse.
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July 6, 2017 10:21am
- Jack5
  
  Manolo, the change in the West.
  
  When Luther sparked the Reformation, celibacy of priests was one of his targets and marriage was his goal for them. Priests and monks were well known in those days for shagging churchgoers’ wives and daughters.
  
  Now, would Luther be calling for marriage for priests as a way to reduce paedophilia? At least it might screen out some paedophiles who see a religious vocation as a path towards potential victims.
  
  These scum move to where the kids are, and Catholics aren’t the only folk whose boys have been targeted by religious leaders and youth group leaders and others.
  
  What causes paedophilia? How is a person imprinted so that sexual drive is mis-oriented towards children? Surely humans can’t be born as paedophiles.
  
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  July 6, 2017 11:37am
  - Kimbo
    
    What causes paedophilia? How is a person imprinted so that sexual drive is mis-oriented towards children? Surely humans can’t be born as paedophiles.
    
    If Luther were alive today I think he would argue. yes, people are born with a propensity for evil that an evil environment can bring to full fruition. Unwelcome and unpleasant news news in this day and age, but nonetheless, “there but for the grace of God go I”.
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Bondage_of_the_Will
    
    Oh, yes, and as with the primary principle in the Reformation, Luther came to oppose celibacy of the clergy (as he had once practiced before marrying former nun, Katherine von Bora) because it was not Biblical. Indeed, as per his doctrine of “the priesthood of all believers” he did away with the sacerdotal role which gave clergy far too much power. With the positive results you mention.
    
    But would ending celibacy reduce instances of pedophilia? Sure, pedophiles can and do get drawn to religious communities (sometimes out of a need for forgiveness, sometimes for the easy pickings), but as it also occurs in Protestant communities, I’d like to see some data-driven findings rather than just speculation…
    
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    July 6, 2017 11:55am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Don’t think it makes much difference if the Priests are married… (Orthodox priests can be married)
    
    https://www.rferl.org/a/serbia-orthodox-church-bishop-orgies-rape-scandal/24965214.html
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:18pm
- Ed Snack
  
  Nothing illegal at all, they were all consenting adults. So what’s the issue ?
  
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  July 6, 2017 12:34pm
DifferentPerspective

CNN does what? – you can’t make this shit up

Just when everyone thought CNN had hit rock bottom – they start digging and do something even stupider.

In the week when:
– Project Veritas show us that even CNN producers think CNN is on a witch-hunt with their Russia probe, and
– it turns out that even CNN management don’t believe a single word that CNN journos publish so they want to check every story before publication

CNN decided that the most important news story they could go after was …… identifying the nerd who made the now infamous “Trump/CNN Wrestlemania gif”!

I shit you not! On the 4th of July – America’s Independence Day – CNN threatened to dox the teenage shitlord who made the Wrestlemania gif and they extorted an apology and a carefully crafted ~~by CNN no doubt~~ retraction.

And if that wasn’t bad enough – they published the story and held the threat of doxxing over the poor kid.

Which all goes to show a bunch of things, like CNN are utterly misguided, but mainly it demonstrated how utterly out of touch with the real world they are.

Of course, the internet exploded in response to the doxxing threat and now instead of just the one Wrestlemania gif floating around there are 1000s of new ones!

Last night #CNNBlackmail was trending no1 on Twitter and the thread is full of even more gross and hilarious gifs and memes about CNN.

Talk about the Striesand effect?

Talk about unintended consequences?

At the end of the day – what does the actions of CNN in threatening a teenager because of “feelings” say about them – nothing good! If they were worried about safety of journos before – they just made the problem infinitely worse now.

(Update – mysteriously overnight somehow this explosion on Twitter isn’t trending anymore – it’s almost as if Twitter analytics are rigged, nah not trustworthy Twitter owned by the Saudis – never!)
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July 6, 2017 10:25am
- Rich Prick
  
  CNN has lost it. I wonder whether it has ever occurred to them they should be reporting the news, rather than being it (for all the wrong reasons).
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:42am
  - Fletch
    
    Add to that a new Veritas video today of one of the producers dissing Chris Cuomo (one of CNN’s talking heads).
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlA9IwUhtHk
    
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    July 6, 2017 1:12pm
    - Scott
      
      Look CNN has spent too much time on this distraction of Trump and wrestling. We need to get back to the real story of Trump and Russia! Can we please get back to Russia? That story has been sadly neglected ?
      
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      July 6, 2017 6:40pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  500 new posts on the Twitter feed since I first posted and it’s not trending? lol
  
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  July 6, 2017 10:54am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    We know (((who))) is behind that don’t we?
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:39pm
    - sam green
      
      The globohomos?
      
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      July 6, 2017 10:46pm
- Rich Prick
  
  CNN is not publishing “HanA**holeSolo’s” name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.
  
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  July 6, 2017 11:17am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    You forgot the last bit where CNN threatens their hostage with future doxing anytime they want:
    
    “CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.”
    
    This is back firing BIG TIME on the joo operated CNN. Even Lefties are getting angry at them, lol:
    
    Chris Mattmann‏Verified account @chrismattmann
    Replying to @ttabatabai8 @KFILE
    
    obtaining someone’s IRL name whether published or not to extract obvious unoriginal apology describing sources/methods snds like dox to me.
    
    Rachel Stoltzfoos
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    @RachelStoltz
    
    Wow, classy move here by @CNN. Threatening to dox a guy over a gif. Wait who’s the child again? Thought that was Trump. @KFILE
    
    German Lopez
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    @germanrlopez
    
    I can’t emphasize how bad this is on CNN’s part. This is basically “don’t post stuff we don’t like or we’ll dox you.” Extremely unethical.
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:48pm
Manolo

Next time you go to Europe you could be landing in Africa:
Since January 2015, 1,478,558 migrants have arrived in Europe by sea while 101,210 have done so this year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4669236/The-great-exodus-Migrants-make-way-Mediterranean.html#ixzz4m0IWnqb1
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July 6, 2017 11:46am
- MCos
  
  Another 740,000,000 and they’ll be the majority!
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:37pm
Monique Watson

Re defence capability. It’s called “Thaad” and Putin is trying to talk down Thaad ahead of the G20 talks.
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July 6, 2017 11:55am
KevinH

The recently opened Waterview Tunnels have had a dramatic impact on travel times between Auckland Central and the Auckland International Airport.
Travel times have been cut by 30 mins, with traffic moving along with less congestion than previously.
Exiting Akl Central via the North Western then linking with the South Western via Waterview has greatly improved traffic flow and sped up bus and taxi travel times to the airport.
Bus operator Skybus is now able to offer a greatly enhanced service to and fro from the airport.
A dedicated light rail connection may well be a good future project but presently would be a white elephant with tourists opting more for the door to door option of collection from their hotels with direct delivery to domestic or international airports.
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July 6, 2017 12:13pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “A dedicated light rail connection may well be a good future project”
  
  Pie in the sky. Very expensive and highly disruptive to suburban streets.
  See my post above. Connect the airport to the existing rail system with a spur line from Puhinui.
  
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  July 6, 2017 12:26pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    What about us North Shore people? We just Helitranz to the airport. Fuck the trains, just a huge bridge crossing and a 8 lane freeway all the way to the airport. Fuck everybody else, change happens. My house is on what was a big farm on the North Shore
    
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    July 6, 2017 5:37pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      You’ll just have to wait until the train line gets to the North Shore via a new tunnel.
      In about 2060.
      If the world still uses trains then.
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:09pm
Ross12

Bill Gates comes out against the prevailing thinking of Soros/Merkel/Marcon/Juncker etc.

http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/07/05/bill-gates-african-refugees-will-decimate-europe-unless-we-hand-them-tons-of-cash/#sthash.spdHH9ks.pL5kMmDp.dpbs
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July 6, 2017 12:23pm
- Ross12
  
  Sorry ,Jazz-Hands Mc Feels missed your post on the same thing @ 8.40am
  
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  July 6, 2017 12:42pm
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    No worries, mate, more coverage on a significant news event like this is all good.
    
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    July 6, 2017 12:54pm
GoVege

Anyone notice in the recent news on youth suicide, the two 14-year olds who took their lives up north, both of their families broke up when they were babies.
The boy was living in a household with 13 kids and just one adult.
How do parents ditch their own kids?
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July 6, 2017 12:49pm
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  The Herald is doing another of its female readership oriented episodic social issues soapies – “oh OMG! somebody DO SOMETHING!”.
  
  This week its “Youth Suicide”. The first episode was plastered with brown faces – LITERALLY ONLY BROWN ONES.
  
  If they were honest the NZ Herald would call it what it is: “Brown Suicide”.
  
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  July 6, 2017 1:02pm
  - Longknives
    
    So Youth Suicide is the latest ‘Election Issue’?
    I had absolutely no idea that Youth only committed suicide when ‘Heartless’ National are in Power…
    
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    July 6, 2017 1:10pm
  - GoVege
    
    Maybe the Maori Party could take it on.
    After all, it’s their stupid ignorant beliefs such as that kids having kids is “a good thing” and “our fertility” that probably plays a significant part in young Maori suicide stats being so high.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:34pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

CNN is doing faux outrage because the guy they are threatening to dox also posted a meme of all the CNN staff who are Jewish.

Hilarious, its ok for CNN to point out that Trumps admin is mostly white males and complain about racism and sexism and how terribly unfair it all is.

But when someone points out CNN is stuffed full of joos then thats “anti Semitic” and joos are just really intelligent and work hard so naturally they get employed more and have more successful careers.

#Diversify CNN

#Diversity Is Our Greatest Strength
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July 6, 2017 1:09pm
Monique Watson

No I fucking can’t
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July 6, 2017 1:30pm
Fletch

You can read a free excerpt from Milo Yiannopoulos’ new book, ‘Dangerous’ at link. It’s currently #1 on the Bestseller list at Amazon (so much for trying to silence him 🙂 )

I liked this part about Islam and the Left-

For years, the Left has been tormenting the right with tales of bigotry. We’re supposed to consider frat boys singing lewd songs about women as an example of “rape culture.”

We’re supposed to look at critics of Black Lives Matter as racists.

And we’re supposed to consider Christian bakeries uncomfortable with gay weddings as the leading example of homophobia in society today.

Well, there is a real rape culture in the West. And there is real homophobia in the West. And there is real out-group intolerance in the West. It all comes from Islam.

http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/07/05/dangerous-excerpt-milo-explains-why-muslims-hate-me/
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July 6, 2017 1:36pm
- Gabby
  
  Nothing to do with Milie being an arse.
  
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  July 6, 2017 7:16pm
waikatogirl

Maori have adopted the America’s cup coming to Auckland.

125 paddlers in 5 waka on the harbour. Are they there celebrating the return of our sailors during the parade, or are they being paid for their participation.
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July 6, 2017 2:08pm
- big bruv
  
  Lol, need you ask?
  
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  July 6, 2017 2:53pm
- MCos
  
  Who isn’t being paid to participate, except for the usual gaggle of politicians elbowing their way to the front row?
  
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  July 6, 2017 4:16pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  They could not paddle around North Head – show ponies, tongue pokers and eye rollers
  
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  July 6, 2017 5:40pm
cha

No matter your politics, this is terrible.

http://www.kmbc.com/article/rep-steve-scalise-returned-to-intensive-care-unit-due-to-concern-for-infection/10265374
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July 6, 2017 2:17pm
Manolo

Land of the Democratic Party:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-july-4-weekend-shootings-violence-20170705-story.html

The Chicago Police Department says it is conducting “a very comprehensive review” after the city experienced one of its most violent Fourth of July weekends in recent years, with at least 101 people shot between late Friday afternoon and early Wednesday.
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July 6, 2017 2:41pm
- MCos
  
  From the article
  ‘A lot of the shootings appeared to be over “petty disputes that escalated into somebody pulling out a gun.” He mentioned some examples: A shooting in Smith Park that started as an argument over where people were sitting; a confrontation between a driver and bicyclists on State Street, with the driver getting a gun from his trunk and officers intervening.’
  So, rather than having anything to do with who people vote for, if they vote at all, it seems to be about bad tempered people with easy access to guns.
  
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  July 6, 2017 4:39pm
  - GoVege
    
    I am so grateful we don’t have easy access to guns here.
    Apparently one third of all police call-outs these days are disputes over shared driveways.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:42pm
RF

Has the speaker come back with a decision concerning Labours dodgy interns.

I hope it does not disappear under the radar.

Obviously MSM have moved on.
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July 6, 2017 3:35pm
- sam green
  
  They’re waiting for Paula to come home.
  
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  July 6, 2017 4:14pm
  - Gabby
    
    Puller might be able to sort them some accommodation at proper rent racking prices instead of nasty slummy tangatawhenua rates.
    
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    July 6, 2017 7:12pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Sullen little bitch, aren’t you 😉 Rhetorical.
    
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    July 6, 2017 10:48pm
- Gabby
  
  He’s in charge of Parliamentary Services isn’t he.
  
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  July 6, 2017 7:13pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Referred to Parliamentary Service to investigate.
  
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  July 6, 2017 7:49pm
  - Gabby
    
    Carters might be busy sorting out the Wee Toddy Baccy payout just now.
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:06pm
nasska

Only another few hours at the chalkface before the country’s pedagogues start a two week winter holiday.
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July 6, 2017 5:05pm
- Gabby
  
  Not to mention our poorly paid hardworking pollywogs. Timbo Macindope will need a rest after two patsy questions in a ‘week’.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:05pm
Nostradamus

Nasska:

I see the rates dodger is off to The Hague tonight:

My bags are packed & checked in.
My seat is an aisle seat!

Question: You’re the unlucky bugger sitting in the window seat. It’s going to be a long flight. What’s the plan?
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July 6, 2017 5:22pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Second question: Who stumped up for the fare and is it one-way?
  
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  July 6, 2017 5:27pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Captain Mainwaring:
    
    Not a big ask folks – this is SO ‘PEOPLE POWER’ time!
    If YOU appreciate my ‘anti-privatisation / anti-corruption Public Watchdog (unpaid /self-funded work) WANT to help and are able –
    PLEASE send me a Personal Message on Facebook, and I will send you my bank account details.
    (Hate asking for help – but this is URGENT and my broomstick is buggered 🙁
    REALLY appreciate YOU giving this request your VERY urgent consideration?
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
    
    I think she’s managed to scrape together enough loose change for a return trip.
    
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    July 6, 2017 5:33pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Thanks to all the loot that the Auckland Council is still whistling for.
      Why?????
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:14pm
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Unscrupulous bitch…
      
      How the fuck is it ‘self funded’ when your hand is out all the time?
      
      Pay your fucking rates and taxes on this ‘income’ for your ‘work’
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:14pm
- Longknives
  
  “You’re the unlucky bugger sitting in the window seat. It’s going to be a long flight. What’s the plan?”
  
  Zopiclone and Alcohol.
  A few drinks, pop a couple then ask Penny for her thoughts on Corruption in local Government?
  You should be sleeping like a big,fat baby in about 2 minutes…
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:28pm
nasska

…..”What’s the plan?”….

Deodorant in an aerosol with nose plugs as a backup.
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July 6, 2017 5:26pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  If only things were that simple!
  
  The New Zealand Government has introduced new restrictions on the amount of liquids, aerosols and gel items that can now be carried in the cabin of international flights. You can now only carry liquids, aerosols or gels in your hand luggage if each container is no more than 100ml, and these containers collectively can fit comfortably into one re-sealable, 20cm x 20cm (or smaller) transparent plastic bag.
  
  The 100ml/20cm x20 cm restrictions might not be sufficient for the poor bugger who’s stuck in the window seat!
  
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  July 6, 2017 5:47pm
  - nasska
    
    Then may he fluke the emergency exit aisle.
    
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    July 6, 2017 5:50pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Flights grounded as thunder, hail and torrential rain hit Auckland
      
      All flight departures out of Auckland International Airport have been temporarily delayed due to bad weather
      
      Perhaps the broomstick would have been a better option after all?
      
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      July 6, 2017 5:56pm
      - stigie
        
        And i hear there was more water than you could poke a stick at around School Rd Kingsland today. Hope her buckets don’t have holes in them.
        
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        July 6, 2017 6:24pm
      - sooty
        
        Just a thought. Does she have to declare her trip as income to IRD?
        
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        July 6, 2017 8:02pm
    - renderer
      
      This is comedy gold
      
      “Penny Bright Plane waiting to fuel up.
      
      Don’t know who did the roofing contract for Ak International airport – but in some places water was showering down.
      
      I helpfully suggested that folks could ‘seize the moment’ with their soap & shampoo & freshen up 🙂
      
      In front of hundreds of lined up passengers – now that would have been a hoot 🙂
      
      All good – didn’t happen – but a lot of folks had their phones out 🙂
      
      (Mine was out of charge – finding a spare plug was almost ‘mission impossible’.”
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:50pm
  - Longknives
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSALQn0u9z4
    
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    July 6, 2017 8:30pm
Jack5

Grant Robertson, welcoming the legislation axing historic convictions for homosexual events and an official apology by Parliament, said “Alf and I” would soon mark 20 years of being together.

Good on Robertson and Alf. But who is Alf? Why hasn’t he featured in the celebrity gossip news?

I think it’s fine that homosexuality has long been legal, but apologies?

How far back do we go with apologies?

Helen Clark began them. Helen Clark, the Prime Minister who knelt on the floor before a Pacific family, after an electricity company cut off power to the family causing the death of an ill person.

Are we going to see Britain apologising for sending thousands of convicts to die in Australia, sometimes for trivial crimes? Are Germany, the Netherlands, and Denmark to apologise to Britain for allowing the Jutes, Angles, Saxons, Frisians, and Danes to invade England?

How soon before non-Maori New Zealanders have to apologise to Maori as a people for – well, for just living here.

Apologies are becoming so common they almost become grovelling.
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July 6, 2017 5:34pm
- Gruffydd
  
  Does it cost anything jack5?
  As I understand it involves very few individuals.
  
  Rampent acts of homosexual behavior are no longer a crime.
  I don’t see an apology for sticking the force of the state into someones consenting sex life that onerous.
  
  As long as the hand is not out for compensation .
  
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  July 6, 2017 6:03pm
  - Jack5
    
    Griff, it’s not a particular apology I question. It’s the fashion of apologising for what happened in the past.
    
    Are current generations morally required to apologise for what happened before their time? It’s one thing to acknowledge wrongs of the past, and in my opinion this was done in this case by changing the law. Apologies are another thing.
    
    Apologies by Parliaments and groups for historical wrongs seem to be supported by psychological studies that sincere apologies help those wronged lift battered feelings. But how can you assuage the feelings of people who are dead?
    
    Perhaps the fashion for apologies will gradually weaken any psychological power that the act of apologising has.
    
    If we legalise cannabis, will there be calls for apologies to those punished for breaking the law as it relates to cannabis? Then what next to apologise for? To a murdering paedophile because a prison wouldn’t let him wear his wig?
    
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    July 6, 2017 6:17pm
    - Gruffydd
      
      But how can you assuage the feelings of people who are dead
      
      They are not dead.
      From a previous thread the last convictions happened in the 1980’s Apologies while they are still alive has value. As you point out once they are dead less so.
      
      The story has more nuance jack5
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11886932
      
      As to cannabis
      I don’t believe there is justification for asking for an apology.
      My conviction for 0.65grames of pot in 1980 is not as morally indefensible or as traumatic as dragging someone and their lover though court and a stay her majesty’s pleasure because you don’t like the way they do jiggy jig.
      It does ask questions of what we do with those incarcerated for supply when we do see a law change.
      
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      July 6, 2017 6:56pm
    - wiseowl
      
      And of course this afternoon the news carried a story from one of those affected that said an apology was not enough, there needs to be compensation.
      
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      July 6, 2017 7:02pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        There have been calls for compensation to be paid and Robertson urged some “creativity”, such as a fund to support gay people today.
        
        “Even today the shame and hurt of being different from the majority still exists.”
        
        Adams said the Government decided compensation would not be appropriate for the pardoned men.
        
        “Compensation is something paid when someone is wrongfully convicted of an act that they didn’t commit. This isn’t the case here.
        
        “This is a case where the men were convicted under the laws of the time and what we are saying is societal views have changed to the extent society no longer regards it as appropriate that those men are tainted by that conviction status.”
        
        She denied the apology without compensation was tokenistic.
        
        “We are trying to put right a wrong the best way we can. What Parliament is going to do today is important, I hope it is meaningful for those involved. It is certainly something we take very seriously.”
        
        She said other Commonwealth countries had not offered compensation.
        
        The bill to allow the pardons will go to Select Committee for public feedback.
        
        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11886932
        
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        July 6, 2017 7:05pm
      - lifesgood
        
        Of course there does. (Sarc)
        
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        July 6, 2017 8:58pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Homo’s should apologise to the majority of normal citizens as they lust in spreading the deadly disease aids. I say treat them as we do possums.
    
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    July 6, 2017 6:24pm
    - stigie
      
      Good on ya Dad, always the gentleman !~
      
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      July 6, 2017 6:27pm
    - sam green
      
      Oh dear – he’s on about the homos again. Y’know – you could really think he was a closet faggoty man – me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
      
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      July 6, 2017 6:45pm
      - stigie
        
        It’s the “camp” ones that he has to be a bit weary about sam, other than that, he can be approached by the normal homo’s and he would never know !~
        
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        July 6, 2017 7:01pm
      - nasska
        
        Get your dirty hungry eyes off him. I saw him first bitch!
        
        If Dad & I were in prison I’d protect him in the shower. 🙂
        
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        July 6, 2017 7:06pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Sam:
        
        Last year Chuck Bird informed us about antisocial behaviour in Ngaruawahia:
        
        Chuck Bird: I have just heard there are some of them [men having sex in public toilets] at the point in Ngaruawahia. There are some of us considering going down there with spot lights and cameras.
        
        DoctorDoc: I always suspected you were a sick little pervert Chuck but now you want to go film some queers engaging in debauchery? Seek help you miserably, lonely old man.
        
        Surely you’d agree that Chuck is providing a worthwhile public service? Who could we trust to keep a watchful eye on Hagley Park, I wonder?
        
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        July 6, 2017 7:07pm
      - stigie
        
        You’re a gentleman Nasska, picking up the soap for Dad in the shower deserves a decoration..?
        
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        July 6, 2017 7:11pm
      - dad4justice
        
        The money or the fag? TB or Aids??
        
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        July 6, 2017 7:20pm
      - sam green
        
        Nostradamus – I have no idea where you hang out for your jollies – I am at home with the wife – true – 19 years of true bliss – some of that wedded. Stop trying to be my friend.
        
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        July 6, 2017 10:21pm
      - sam green
        
        I kinda respect nasska and stigie – much as our politics aren’t allied – they’re funny guys who understand when someone is being a cunt. I don’t respect you Nostradamus- you’re trying to score points.
        
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        July 6, 2017 10:33pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Sam:
        
        Stop trying to be my friend … [says something that implies I’m “being a cunt”] … I don’t respect you Nostradamus
        
        Wow. Ok, since we’ve previously got along without you making these sorts of comments, I’m going to assume you’ve misinterpreted something I’ve said. Then again, if you really want to burn bridges, I have enough friends in real life, so I can cope without your online friendship!
        
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        July 6, 2017 11:12pm
      - sam green
        
        The c word didn’t refer to you.
        
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        July 7, 2017 7:48am
    - doggone7
      
      And how exactly has their lust in spreading the deadly disease aids affected you? Or endangered you? You seem to take it so personally.
      
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      July 6, 2017 7:47pm
    - Gabby
      
      You’ll get an apology when Amy addresses the terrible injustice done to generations of underage drinkers.
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:02pm
    - Nookin
      
      Classy as always, Dad.
      No wonder you are so revered in the Family Court!
      
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      July 6, 2017 8:50pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But who is Alf?
  Alf is Grant Robertson’s Civil Union Partner.
  
  Why hasn’t he featured in the celebrity gossip news?
  He featured in Stuff’s Rugby news….. does that count?
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/news/790029/No-8-and-halfback-tie-the-knot
  
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  July 6, 2017 9:26pm
  - Jack5
    
    Maggy is better than Google.
    
    Can one patent one’s self, or should Mr Wassilieff fill in the forms?
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:38pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      It’s all done with Google…. no smoke, no mirrors.
      
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      July 6, 2017 9:45pm
  - Inandout
    
    I would like to know what was going through the mind of that dark gentleman in the background of that photo.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:50pm
wiseowl

$50 million mortgage fraud.
How can this happen in NZ ?
And now name suppression is lifted we see it was carried out by four people with chinese sounding names.
How much more of this is going on?.When is someone going to expose the real extent of goings on with our real estate?
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July 6, 2017 5:53pm
- Gabby
  
  Butbutbutbut wayyycissst!
  
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  July 6, 2017 7:03pm
nasska

A young boy says to his father ,”Dad, our maths teacher is asking to see you.”

“What happened?” The father asks.

“Well, she asks me, ‘how much is 7 x 9?’ I answer ’63’ , then she asks, ‘and 9 x 7?’ so I asked ‘what’s the fucking difference?’ ”

“Indeed, what is the difference?” asks the father. ”Sure, I’ll go.”

The next day, the boy comes home from school “Dad, have you gone by the school?” He asks.

“Not yet.”

“Well when you do, come and see the gym teacher also.”

“Why?” asks the father.

The boy explains, “Well we had a gym class today, and he asked me to raise my left arm, I did. Then my right arm, I also raised it. Then he asked me to lift my right leg, so I did. ‘Now,’ he says, ‘lift your left leg,’ so I asked ‘What, am I suppose to stand on…….my cock!?'”

“Exactly,” says the father. “Alright, I’ll come.”

The next day, the boy asks his father “Did you go to the school?”

“No, not yet.”

“Don’t bother, I got expelled.”

Surprised, the father asks “Why did you get expelled?”

“Well, they summoned me to the principal’s office and sitting there were the maths teacher, the gym teacher and the art teacher.” “The fuck was the art teacher doing there!?” asks the father.

“That’s what I said” replied the boy.
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July 6, 2017 8:20pm
Fletch

As someone posted on a Facebook thread, was being homosexual ever illegal in New Zealand? The Homosexual Law Reform Act 1986 states –

An Act to amend the Crimes Act 1961 by removing criminal sanctions against consensual homosexual conduct between males, and by consequentially amending the law relating to consensual anal intercourse

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1986/0033/latest/whole.html

Ahh, so now we’re getting down to what it is all about. The law change was all about decriminalizing sodomy or anal intercourse. And that is what the Govt is apologizing for? Really?
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July 6, 2017 8:43pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Fletch:
  
  Section 3 of the Criminal Records (Expungement of Convictions for Historical Homosexual Offences) Bill states:
  
  The purpose of this Act is to reduce prejudice, stigma, and all other negative effects, arising from a conviction for a historical homosexual offence by—
  (a) enabling an application for expungement of the conviction to be made under this Act by an eligible person (before that person’s death) or a representative (after the eligible person’s death); and
  (b) expunging the conviction if the Secretary’s decision on the application is that, on the balance of probabilities, the conviction meets the test for expungement.
  
  I wasn’t previously aware that the scope of the Bill would include an application by “a representative (after the eligible person’s death)”.
  
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  July 6, 2017 8:56pm
  - Fletch
    
    Yes, that is what this new bill states, but the actual 1986 law reform act was a little bit more honest, wasn’t it, as to what it was really all about?
    This new bill is to apologize to those who broke the law before the 1986 reform and as you can read, the 1986 reform was all about decriminalizing homosexual male conduct, or sodomy.
    
    So today we’re really apologizing to those who committed sodomy while it was illegal, as being homosexual itself was never illegal.
    
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    July 6, 2017 9:17pm
Jack5

Lucia ain’t gonna like this!

Poles welcome Trump as a hero:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4668724/Trump-hero-s-welcome-Warsaw.html
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July 6, 2017 9:30pm
Monique Watson

Trump is a hero! Putin had a lot of firepower on the Polish border from the Eve of the 4th of July.
Trump has duly sacked up and is refusing to be intimidated.
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July 7, 2017 1:18am
JasonJohns

Blood and soil is back – and the left hate it!
In Poland Trump has spoken up for the white race, the basis of civilisation
https://newrepublic.com/article/143746/international-brotherhood-white-grievance
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