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William of Ockham

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Climate science predicts the surface will warm and the stratosphere will cool, and that is exactly what is happening. (Increased insolation would warm the stratosphere.)

It seems part of the explanation for the discrepancy between the models and the satellite data is the religious freaks who calculate the UAH series may be “inadvertently” including the “coolness” of the stratosphere into the data for the troposphere. Nothing new: cooking the books for years. (Some god or another wouldn’t allow her progeny to ruin Earth…)

https://www.carbonbrief.org/study-why-troposphere-warming-differs-between-models-and-satellite-data
Study: Why troposphere warming differs between models and satellite data
Zeke Hausfather 21 June 2017

In case anyone is still doubting Earth surface is heating up:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/23/from-heatwaves-to-hurricanes-floods-to-famine-seven-climate-change-hotspots
From heatwaves to hurricanes, floods to famine: seven climate change hotspots
Global warming will not affect everyone equally. Here we look at seven key regions to see how each is tackling the consequences of climate change

It’s shocking. Far worse than scientists thought possible. Global mean increase of 2C is going to completely stuff a lot of human habitat.

I’m away for a while now, so it just remains for me to thank you all for taking part in the study. You’re a very special group, as Wayne Mapp observed.

Before I go,
Al Franken BRILLIANTLY DESTROYS Rick Perry On Climate Change Science 6/23/2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMwGT57PXs&feature=youtu.be

The Republicans nowadays really are despicable creatures; led by an ignorant, paranoid, narcissistic, lying, cheating, gullible and tractable oaf … the quintessential oil-billionaire Brothers-Koch sucker.

Potus orangutanus ignoranus insanus.

Well, with all that bullshit he needs more than one anus!
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June 26, 2017 8:01am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Hi ho hi ho, downticking we go!
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:04am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  So what will Bill’s Barclaygate story change to today?
  What a shame Key didn’t shut the whole thing down when it first started to stink.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:06am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Duncan Garner interviewing BE this morning. Garner stated he cannot understand, is totally confused as to what Bill is saying…
    BE stated clearly he was told by Barclay there was a recording but BE had not heard it so could not state categorically that it actually existed. BE then reported the recording to the appropriate National Party official. As part of the following police investigation BE was then interviewed during their 10 month investigation. The police deemed no charges would be laid.
    
    Garner then asked BE how much the payment was. BE stated he had no knowledge as was not party to the CONFIDENTIAL employment agreement, and anyone who did know would be breaching confidentiality would be breaking the law.
    
    Could Duncan Garner’s confusion be that be there is no scandal to find!
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:28am
    - 4077th
      
      There is only a scandal because Labour and the MSM say so.
      
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      June 26, 2017 8:56am
      - sooty
        
        They day that there is no scandel in Kommondant Littles Slave Labour Camp as well. There is no one so blind as those that do not want to see! The unions have said that there is no story here, so the journilist, obey their orders! To think that journilist are one of the most trusted professions. Not!
        
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        June 26, 2017 9:06am
      - MickMac
        
        No there is a scandal.
        Bill English has been proven to be a manager not a leader!
        and a poor one at that.
        
        He didn’t do the right thing in the beginning belying his ascribed status as a “safe pair of hands and a righteous man”.
        
        He didn’t sack the silly twerp on day one.
        Then he covered it up with a bullshit “private” under the table payment.
        and when found out didn’t do the right thing either.
        
        The only thing he’s got going for him,
        Is what is the alternative???
        
        Slavers…………
        
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        June 26, 2017 9:31am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        He didn’t sack the silly twerp on day one.
        Then he covered it up with a bullshit “private” under the table payment.
        and when found out didn’t do the right thing either.
        
        English wasn’t the leader of the National Party when this all surfaced last year.
        
        I strongly suspect NZF is behind this story, given the “victim” now works for Invercargill-based NZF List MP Ria Bond. That so much information has come out suggests that the “victim” has had pretty scant regard for the confidentialty agreement she signed.
        
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        June 26, 2017 12:52pm
    - Lance
      
      Can’t they just dump Garner and whats her face and make it the Mark Richardson show?
      
      Now that would be worth watching
      
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      June 26, 2017 8:59am
      - howitis
        
        Righties Go Wild 🙂
        
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        June 26, 2017 12:11pm
      - RF
        
        “What’s her face ” should not under any circumstances wear red lipstick.
        
        She has this silly smirk like the A.B captain and the lipstick makes it worse.
        
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        June 26, 2017 4:20pm
    - Psycho Milt
      
      BE stated clearly he was told by Barclay there was a recording but BE had not heard it so could not state categorically that it actually existed.
      
      I’ve never been to Kerikeri so could not categorically state that it actually existed, if I were to adopt Bill-English standards of pedantry. I know it does exist though, and Bill English knows Todd Barclay illegally taped his staff – not least because the prick told him so.
      
      As part of the following police investigation BE was then interviewed during their 10 month investigation. The police deemed no charges would be laid.
      
      Bill keeps repeating “10-month investigation” and “no charges” for all the world as though the cops hadn’t only given up because Barclay refused to talk to them (odd in itself, given how they ransacked media newsrooms looking for evidence when it was John Key who complained he’d been illegally recorded – not that the police leadership is influenced in any way whatsoever by National politicians, mind).
      
      BE stated he had no knowledge [how much was paid] as was not party to the CONFIDENTIAL employment agreement…
      
      He wasn’t party to the agreement between Parliamentary Services and Barclay’s victim, no. But he was very much party to the payout from National’s leader’s fund, which wasn’t part of any employment dispute settlement but was instead a payout to compensate for the “privacy breach” caused by these recordings which supposedly don’t exist (pretty generous paying out for something that may not exist, Bill!). That payout is also only as “confidential” as Bill wants it to be (which is apparently “a lot”).
      
      Could Duncan Garner’s confusion be that be there is no scandal to find!
      
      No, his confusion is that he can’t believe a prime minister is being this stupid 3 months out from an election.
      
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      June 26, 2017 9:41am
      - Paulus
        
        I agree – I think that English has mishandled this from the time when many people knew that Barclay was not the favoured choice by a coterie of National Party people, but the locals favoured him twice.
        English is I agree a good Manager but Leader – no.
        I will probably give my one vote to ACT.
        Sadly I have been a National supporter for 50 years but not whilst English remains Leader. Sorry Bill, who is a really nice guy, but that’s my choice.
        
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        June 26, 2017 10:04am
  - MickMac
    
    Yep in hindsight, should have sacked him that day.
    sorry made him resign.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:28am
- Lance
  
  I suspect WOO owns shares in a mouse scroll wheel replacement business
  
  Follow the money !!!!
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:09am
  - srylands
    
    If you read his post today you will see that he announces this is his last post for some time.
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:34am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Who reads it?
      
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      June 26, 2017 8:38am
  - SGA
    
    @Lance
    
    I suspect WOO owns shares in a mouse scroll wheel replacement business
    
    Truth is that I have spent probably 10x the time scrolling over people bitching about WoO as I have WoO himself.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:23am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  WoO orangutanus ignoranus insanus
  
  Off to get some treatment for the extremus TDS then?
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:11am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Probably back to the Northern Hemisphere again for some warmth.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:09am
- Gruffydd
  
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  William of Ockham
  
  Climate science predicts the surface will warm and the stratosphere will cool, and that is exactly what is happening. (Increased insolation would warm the stratosphere.)
  
  It seems part of the explanation for the discrepancy between the models and the satellite data is the religious freaks who calculate the UAH series may be “inadvertently” including the “coolness” of the stratosphere into the data for the troposphere. Nothing new: cooking the books for years. (Some god or another wouldn’t allow her progeny to ruin Earth…)
  
  https://www.carbonbrief.org/study-why-troposphere-warming-differs-between-models-and-satellite-data
  Study: Why troposphere warming differs between models and satellite data
  Zeke Hausfather 21 June 2017
  
  In case anyone is still doubting Earth surface is heating up:
  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/23/from-heatwaves-to-hurricanes-floods-to-famine-seven-climate-change-hotspots
  From heatwaves to hurricanes, floods to famine: seven climate change hotspots
  Global warming will not affect everyone equally. Here we look at seven key regions to see how each is tackling the consequences of climate change
  
  It’s shocking. Far worse than scientists thought possible. Global mean increase of 2C is going to completely stuff a lot of human habitat.
  
  I’m away for a while now, so it just remains for me to thank you all for taking part in the study. You’re a very special group, as Wayne Mapp observed.
  
  Before I go,
  Al Franken BRILLIANTLY DESTROYS Rick Perry On Climate Change Science 6/23/2017
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMwGT57PXs&feature=youtu.be
  
  The Republicans nowadays really are despicable creatures; led by an ignorant, paranoid, narcissistic, lying, cheating, gullible and tractable oaf … the quintessential oil-billionaire Brothers-Koch sucker.
  
  Potus orangutanus ignoranus insanus.
  
  Well, with all that bullshit he needs more than one anus!
  ………..
  Another thirty now kiddys .
  it only takes two to repost by the way.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:32am
  - MickMac
    
    Gruffy
    
    No.
    There will be an up surgence of wine making areas if you are correct.
    
    But you are not.
    Thank God.
    Models?????
    and their writers.
    Not reality.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:34am
  - Gruffydd
    
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    William of Ockham
    
    Climate science predicts the surface will warm and the stratosphere will cool, and that is exactly what is happening. (Increased insolation would warm the stratosphere.)
    
    It seems part of the explanation for the discrepancy between the models and the satellite data is the religious freaks who calculate the UAH series may be “inadvertently” including the “coolness” of the stratosphere into the data for the troposphere. Nothing new: cooking the books for years. (Some god or another wouldn’t allow her progeny to ruin Earth…)
    
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/study-why-troposphere-warming-differs-between-models-and-satellite-data
    Study: Why troposphere warming differs between models and satellite data
    Zeke Hausfather 21 June 2017
    
    In case anyone is still doubting Earth surface is heating up:
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/23/from-heatwaves-to-hurricanes-floods-to-famine-seven-climate-change-hotspots
    From heatwaves to hurricanes, floods to famine: seven climate change hotspots
    Global warming will not affect everyone equally. Here we look at seven key regions to see how each is tackling the consequences of climate change
    
    It’s shocking. Far worse than scientists thought possible. Global mean increase of 2C is going to completely stuff a lot of human habitat.
    
    I’m away for a while now, so it just remains for me to thank you all for taking part in the study. You’re a very special group, as Wayne Mapp observed.
    
    Before I go,
    Al Franken BRILLIANTLY DESTROYS Rick Perry On Climate Change Science 6/23/2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMwGT57PXs&feature=youtu.be
    
    The Republicans nowadays really are despicable creatures; led by an ignorant, paranoid, narcissistic, lying, cheating, gullible and tractable oaf … the quintessential oil-billionaire Brothers-Koch sucker.
    
    Potus orangutanus ignoranus insanus.
    
    Well, with all that bullshit he needs more than one anus!
    ………..
    Another thirty needed now kiddys .
    it only takes two to repost by the way.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:15am
- Rich Prick
  
  Seriously, what is wrong with you?
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:47am
  - ross411
    
    He mistakes moral grandstanding for championing worthwhile causes.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:39am
Paulus Gnome

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11881918

Out-of-control driver smashes car into Muslims

A cultural diversity dividend at the wheel so not islamophobia, just a run of the mill traffic event involving a football field full of hungry worshipers.
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June 26, 2017 8:03am
- cmm
  
  Ramadan induced hypoglycemia perhaps?
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:14am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I once worked in the accounting office of a huge shopping centre in Jakarta. During Ramadan the centre manager employed a bunch of ‘Christian’ (ie non-muslims) accounts staff to apply journal entries to fix the posting screwed up by the fasting Muslims.
    
    While on that topic… don’t fly Etihad, Qatar, Saudia, Garuda (and others) during Ramadan. Their pilots are allowed to fast. Emirates is ok though … their pilots are not permitted to fast and fly.
    
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    June 26, 2017 7:44pm
DifferentPerspective

CNN fake news retracton – Trump right again!

Crickets … from you DPF about the scandal hitting CNN, showing how they take ‘fake news’ hit pieces from the dodgy Democrats and splash it all over the place without any editorial quality control and only retract it when it becomes obvious they made a stuff up?

Given that you get most of your TDS stories from CNN isn’t this of some relevance?

These are the folks Trump said were “the most fake news network”.

Still winning!
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June 26, 2017 8:04am
- Lucia Maria
  
  While as Breitbart don’t even issue a retraction, they just let the story scroll off the page when they contradict whatever Trump’s current position on anything is.
  
  Such as yesterday: Washington Post Spy Fiction: Obama Admin ‘Choked’ as Russia Committed ‘Crime of the Century’
  
  and now today: Trump Continues to Turn the Tables on the Obama Administration Regarding Russia Narrative
  
  So, yesterday, Russian interference was “fake news”, and now it’s Trump hammering Obama over his inaction over the Russians!
  
  You just can’t make this shit up. No wonder Breitbart et al are super excited over CNN’s mistake and retraction. Hey, at least they retracted. Unlike Breitbart who just hope the mistake is not noticed and moved on!
  
  Yeah, winning only in his and his dwindling no of supporters minds!
  
  #TDS Trump’s Delusion Syndrome
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:38pm
  - Gruffydd
    
    TDS
    Is Trump Derangement Syndrome.
    Just those who suffer are the ones who blindly support trump and his consonantly shifting narrative.
    Breitbart being the go to spot for whatever TDS’s are thinking today.
    The supporters are clearly being manipulated by Bannon and co.
    
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    June 26, 2017 7:02pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Hi Griff,
      
      Yeah, I’m redefining TDS.
      
      So far have debasement and now delusion. Lots more D words to go!
      
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      June 26, 2017 7:08pm
      - Gruffydd
        
        D as in dwindling support.
        
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        June 26, 2017 7:32pm
Maggy Wassilieff

A bureaucratic view of climate change
http://joannenova.com.au/2017/06/if-only-yes-prime-minister-re-elected-had-done-the-global-warming/

Enjoy.
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June 26, 2017 8:08am
- Gruffydd
  
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  Joe nova Dr Maggy Wassilieff phd botony..
  Hows her hubbys new theory coming along ?
  Still a series of blog posts waffling on about rubbish and nothing published .
  Has she added anything since it become Farce x ,The notch and a mysterious delay theory?
  I do enjoy your posts.
  They are so full of gibberingly stupid nonsense.
  About due for an update on some more rubbish as well .
  Like the gwpf look into temperature record and A Watts new atmospheric society.
  Can you give us an update lovey? You were so keen on them when they were first announced a few years back.
  http://www.tempdatareview.org/
  https://theoas.org/
  
  Must not forget that other project .
  http://joannenova.com.au/2016/06/big-news-investing-for-a-cool-future-and-an-answer-to-fossil-fuel-divestment/\\
  I understand you have a spare grand lying around.
  You could make a fortune putting you money into Joe’s bank account.(sarc)
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:25am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Even less coherent than usual you gibberish spouting do as your told fuckwit. Been at the bong again this early ? Take your drug addled senses elsewhere.
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:31am
    - Gruffydd
      
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      oh dear its ed snack.
      Hows the alcohol addiction coming along ed ?
      Only a bottle or two a day makes you a alky my friend
      Enplanes a lot .
      Alcohol induced Early onset dementia .
      Or does it go all the way back to mummy and fetal alcohol syndrome?
      In that case we can not hold you responsible for your problem.
      
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      June 26, 2017 8:38am
      - Lance
        
        You really are sad and pathetic
        
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        June 26, 2017 9:03am
      - Gruffydd
        
        lets see Lance
        Ed does full retard on the reefer madness and tells me to FO.
        I point out that, as an admitted drunk. he is more likely to be a drug addled addict.
        I get the shaft from you
        yip
        …..
        
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        June 26, 2017 7:18pm
  - holysheet
    
    Fuck off you gibbering idiot.
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:33am
    - Gruffydd
      
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      Oh look we have two new hall monitors .
      Here is a hint dimwits .
      It is dpf’s blog not yours .
      Telling others to FO is a strike offense.
      I just don’t bother to report you unlike the stupid little girl who uses the complaints process to silence those she does not like .
      
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      June 26, 2017 9:54am
      - holysheet
        
        But it’s always different when we are talking about you, you idiot.
        
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        June 26, 2017 10:22am
  - Rich Prick
    
    … the fuck? Just shows, anyone can bash away at a keyboard.
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:56am
  - Ross12
    
    Haven’t you got a sense of humour Griff ? Just because the video’s were put on JN’s site doesn’t make them any less worthy/funny, but as usual you attack the person.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:51am
  - Gruffydd
    
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    Joe nova Dr Maggy Wassilieff phd botony..
    Hows her hubbys new theory coming along ?
    Still a series of blog posts waffling on about rubbish and nothing published .
    Has she added anything since it become Farce x The notch and a mysterious delay theory?
    I do enjoy your posts.
    They are so full of gibberingly stupid nonsense.
    About due for an update on some more rubbish as well .
    Like the gwpf look into temperature record and A Watts new atmospheric society.
    Can you give us an update lovey? You were so keen on them when they were first announced a few years back.
    http://www.tempdatareview.org/
    https://theoas.org/
    
    Must not forget that other project .
    http://joannenova.com.au/2016/06/big-news-investing-for-a-cool-future-and-an-answer-to-fossil-fuel-divestment/\\
    I understand you have a spare grand lying around.
    You could make a fortune putting you money into Joe’s bank account.(sarc)
    Silence maggy
    I take that as you no longer think these grand plans to overturn the scientific Establishment are valid .
    They certainly seem to be in a pause or hiatus.
    We can also deduce that putting your money behind your dingbat ideas is not a goer either.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:26am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Your nonsense was bad enough the first time around.
      
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      June 26, 2017 10:38am
      - Gruffydd
        
        The nonsence .
        indeed.
        Feel free to answer my questions about the fuckwittery we have seen from some sources .
        The links to the projects are there would you like to explain why all the effort was put into announcing these projects and money taken to finance them Yet they have failed to progress beyond a expensive web sites?
        I would guess they were just efforts to scam the gullible.
        
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        June 26, 2017 10:44am
oldpark

Sources are saying ,that the perennial “fake news “Mainstream Media infested with trade union Journalists,are so used to tell liars,that they are refusing to tell the trust about,Lie-bour/Green Party’s massive corrupt exploitation,of 85 innocent overseas students,and how they would use their money, as well as tens of thousands of trade union dollars,by doing that to” beat” the system,just like pledge card one. Now Angry Andy Little with full supporting programme ,in the scam,have been caught in the headlights,all it needs for once is the the “fake news media”,leading the charge,NZ HERALD encompassed by the enemy within Newstalk ZB,just for once to tell the truth on the scamming and exploitation of 85 innocent overseas student by Lie-bour/Green Parties.
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June 26, 2017 8:10am
- G152
  
  Notice as to how there is little or no mention of liebors slave labour in the fake news but still plenty about a 2 year old National members cockup
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:26am
  - Gabby
    
    That’s what comes of putting a two year old in Parliament.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:20am
Huevon

The Human Rights Commission is pushing it’s antiracism campaign hard. Perhaps we can finally expect action against the complex system of veto rights, consultation rights, power sharing, tax exemptions and other privileges existing this country that are based exclusively on skin colour. No? Ok then.
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June 26, 2017 8:10am
- 4077th
  
  No word from Susan Devoid about Harawerea wanting to execute Chinese people who import meth precursors while he says nothing about his gang mates who peddle he stuff inside their communities?
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:10am
  - Gabby
    
    Have you made a complaint?
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:21am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Not all of us think that shutting down speech and telling people what to think is a proper use of taxpayers’ money.
      
      Anyway, Hone’s vile rantings do not breach the HRA and there’s nothing Devoy can or should do about them. I would just like her to take the same lack of interest in other expressions of opinion that are outside her jurisdiction.
      
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      June 26, 2017 9:41am
    - 4077th
      
      How do you know I haven’t Gabby? Are you suggesting I just sit around absorbing Harawera’s racist rantings and let them slide by unchecked? I have a suggestion for you…It is neither your business nor your responsibility to ask me. Thank you.
      
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      June 26, 2017 10:12am
- Southern Raider
  
  I saw someone ask over the weekend if Billy T James would have been banned under this
  
  I think the answer would be yes
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:48am
Pete George

More on the Labour interns – Andrew Little is being less than open and honest despite claiming the moral high ground, and indications that Labour MPs were working with the interns in Auckland.

https://yournz.org/2017/06/26/interns-worked-with-labour-mps/
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June 26, 2017 8:12am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Excellent work P.G.
  You are showing up all the “investigative” journalists.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:39am
  - ztev
    
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    hes just repeating stuff from the MSM. ywan
    
    reall question is why is no one in national running with these ‘reveals’- could be they are so piss poor old news and may compromise nationals interns programme
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:04am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Having to resort to shooting the messenger now ztev. I suspect that people are telling PG things because the media won’t report on this.
      
      And what is it with the obsession of people involved with the Labour Party abusing the hospitality of their hosts by flogging grog from them?
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/767577/Labour-staff-face-sack-for-alleged-booze-heist
      
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      June 26, 2017 10:32am
    - Dafixeruppa
      
      Could it be that they realised from the opposition cluster F**k at the last election that campaigning on negativity doesn’t work?
      
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      June 26, 2017 11:21am
    - Jack5
      
      Pete George is doing an excellent job on Labour’s slave labour.
      
      With the MSM so biased to the Left, thank goodness for bloggers such as Pete George.
      
      Go Pete!
      
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      June 26, 2017 9:32pm
  - RF
    
    Buy that man a DB.
    
    Good work Pete…..
    
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    June 26, 2017 4:33pm
- dime
  
  as painful as you could be on here pete, your kicking ass with your blog. well done.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:46am
- billmurray
  
  Read your link, great work by you, this needs broader readership.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:59am
Left Right and Centre

Team NZ on the verge of victory . . .
Not only do they have a better boat and crew . . .
Shhhh – rumoured to have a timely addition in NZ’s top super spy Todd Barclay – game over.
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June 26, 2017 8:12am
- Prince
  
  I understand Team NZ have 85 US interns paddling away under the boat. Not great working conditions but the promise of meeting Peter Blake. And Oracle have Matt McCarten managing strategy.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:30am
  - Left Right and Centre
    
    I’m claiming those upticks as an ‘assist’ – hahahahahaha
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:11am
duggledog

Re-elect us and we’ll give you a tax cut’ says National (source: TV1 News bulletin, 6.05 pm , 25 June).

Also, they will crack down on gangs and meth crime!

Yeah well forgive me if I’m cynical but you’ve had NINE years boys and girls.

NINE years to give me a tax break and NINE years to sort out the judicial system, which would sort out crime, so why would I give you a fourth chance.

You’ve let too many low quality immigrants in from alien cultures not to mention Muslims
You gave the recipients of one of the world’s most generous welfare states a pay rise
You gave National Radio, which enables the above, more money when they were already the #1 station in NZ
You’ve allowed the racist Maori Party to ‘wag’ you, the dog
You have given Maori extraordinary powers at local government level
You gave my tax $ to North Korea
KDC still here
Provisional tax rort still unaddressed
etc
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June 26, 2017 8:13am
- Lance
  
  What is the provisional tax rort?
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:19am
  - cmm
    
    Sounds like an opportunity worth investigating…
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:32am
- MickMac
  
  Duggledog
  
  What’s the alternative?
  The Slavers and the Watermelons….
  
  and don’t National know it.
  
  I’m thinking my party vote needs to go to Winston, Rather like the Trump vote everyone who doesn’t like him gets stiffed.
  
  at 39% we are anyway.
  Super kicked down the road.
  Immigration Kicked down the road.
  Climate change kicked down the road.
  Getting rid of the racist Maori seats kicked down the road.
  Justice system overhaul kicked down the road.
  Properly resourcing the NZPolice ditto
  
  and lets not forget the waste of millions of our money on an unfairly run Flag referendum.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:48am
  - MickMac
    
    oops sorry missed
    Housing crisis kicked down the road.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:28am
- KevOB
  
  How would Labour have handled the Christchurch and Kaiapoi earthquakes? Could they even organise a kindergarten fundraiser?
  What provisional tax rort? It’s only income tax paid on account.
  
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  June 26, 2017 12:25pm
I've been to Mecca and you have not

Simple truth is that there is no viable alternative to Billy English and Gnational.
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June 26, 2017 8:25am
- holysheet
  
  Well not the co-boat with it’s crew of liabore slaves and motley melons.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:30am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    National could run that rowing boat ad again and have the multicoloured clusterfuck as a galley with different drummers keeping the interns / galley slaves rowing at different speeds.
    
    Change the music perhaps, maybe something catchy from Spartacus, but ask first.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:33am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Yes, anarchy with a small a has very limited appeal
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:36am
oldpark

NZ used to have ,a blog site ,revered by all ,who could give its main blogger,complete respect. The blog site,would have even got the status of a Rolls Royce,or Mercedes Benz. Something must have happened,to the once was a superstar blogger,he is now like a little boy lost, just like the mouthpiece Jimmy Spithall ,in the Americas Cup,all bullshit and jellybeans,and forgetting the well known adage ,”empty vessels make the most sound”.
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June 26, 2017 8:28am
- srylands
  
  What is this blog site? BTW your use of commas is seriously incorrect.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:32am
  - oldpark
    
    Do you mean,BTW = Big Titted Women,or British Tourist Week.
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:53am
  - SGA
    
    I’ve toyed with the idea that oldpark actually writes satire, and is laughing at everyone who takes these posts seriously. Just a thought.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:40am
- cmm
  
  NZ used to have an education system that taught proper grammar.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:33am
  - VicParking
    
    We used to have people who critcised the idea not the message.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:20am
  - Gabby
    
    Well after oldfart’s time, cmmie bokkie. The comma was yet to be invented in his schooldays.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:25am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Still teach proper grammar, in Te reo, really useful
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:35am
- oldpark
  
  Maybe Horrible Hager was not so horrible,to the once was a superstar blogger.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:54am
srylands

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/94067441/passengers-told-to-say-a-prayer-perth-airasia-flight-turned-around

I will not be flying Air Asia.

Being told by the pilot to pray is not something I would find reassuring.

When I saw this headline I thought it was another tedious story about turbulence. However the video is disturbing and suggests a serious engine vibration.
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June 26, 2017 8:29am
- MickMac
  
  not at all.
  something the pilot had no control over.
  so he calls in “other aid”
  good call.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:50am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The prayers seems to have worked
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:38am
- starboard
  
  Air Asia are generally very good, infact they have just been voted world’s best budget airline. I use them all the time up here for trips into Vietnam, Hong Kong and once upon a time, into New Delhi.
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:14am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    I also have flown with Air Asia as my airline of choice when visiting SEA.
    Always pleasant service, planes of an acceptable standard (better than the local NZ ones some days) and never an issue.
    In fact seeing that the pilot managed to bring the plane back and land it safely on just the one engine, I’d go as far as to say that I’d feel quite safe with their experienced pilots.
    
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    June 26, 2017 11:25am
- GazzaW
  
  I don’t think that I would need too much prompting from the pilot to start praying.
  
  It’s amazing how many instant converts the ‘sky fairy’ of your choice secures at times like that.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:51pm
Monique Watson

Good morning William of Cocksuckers. I never bother to read your tripe.
@Mainwaring. I’m surprised the Barclay saga didn’t get shut down by Key straight away. Given his political acuity, he should have been onto this matter promptly as it was fairly clear cut. English got a hospital pass.
Re the Labour student visas rort. Smells like a boatload of rotting snapper carcasses. Labour are slipping under the radar by playing the “we’re innocent” card. And we all know how the MSM suck that up. Whores.
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June 26, 2017 8:30am
- cmm
  
  The best bit is how Little is saying the whole business was completely independent and how Labour are stepping up to help out.
  
  Worse still, people are swallowing this line.
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:36am
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    Which people??
    
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    June 26, 2017 1:46pm
Manolo

Closing the door:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4635488/Number-refugees-drops-Trump-s-three-months.html

The number of refugees accepted in the United States has dropped by almost a half in President Trump’s first three months, compared to Barack Obama’s last three.

While 25,000 refugees entered the country in the last three months of Obama’s presidency, 13,000 were approved in the early months of Trump’s administration, according to statistics released by the Department of Homeland Security.

The only common denominator between both administrations is the refugees’ countries of origin. Under Trump and Obama many of them hailed from the Democratic Republic of Congo, Syria, Iraq, Somalia and Myanmar.@MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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June 26, 2017 8:43am
waikatogirl

Meth is devastating Maori so Hone has a new campaign to shut down meth being sold. Most meth precursors are from China so Hone’s is proposing to put any Chinese importers of meth into NZ to death. This effective and final deterrent will not be extended to other races involved in importing meth or precursors.

Hone says you have to start somewhere!
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June 26, 2017 8:54am
- VicParking
  
  Just send them back to China were the government over there is execute them and harvest their organs.
  Maybe we can do a deal, NZ is short of donnors.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:23am
- Inandout
  
  He is a despicable person, who hides his poison behind his ‘concern for Maori’ mantra. The meth from China doesn’t magically appear in the addicts hands. It is distributed by the Maori gang network; Hone’s mates up North. He hates white people with a vengeance, and happily appears on Garner’s show because of the latter’s tribal partner.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:25am
  - MickMac
    
    Garners the liberal fool for not asking and pushing about the gang distribution.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:52am
  - cmm
    
    “Hone’s mates up North”
    
    You might be onto something.
    
    The flood of cheap meth from China is driving down prices and is bad for business. Solution: death to the competition!
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:16am
  - 4077th
    
    Precisely I&O. The market is created by the gangs by giving meth away for free thereby creating a loyal and hungry customer base. The market would nothing without the gangs and the tactics they use to attract new addicts. What Harawera also fails to mention is the downstream, violent crimewaves created by the users further landing them in jail. Harawera should stick to rimming German sausage.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:54am
  - GoVege
    
    Hone’s not so bad.
    He doesn’t talk about murdering the missus if she ever cheated on him…like another Maori leader.
    Or says that Maori 13 to 17 year olds having 4 times the birth rate of any other ethnic group is a good thing/ “our” fertility….like a certain Dame.
    (Surely it must hurt to accept a damehood from the colonial oppressors?
    I doubt honest Hone would.)
    
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    June 26, 2017 11:58am
- cmm
  
  Alternatively Hone could tell Maori to get some backbone/mana and stop using meth.
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:14am
  - GoVege
    
    You don’t understand, cmm.
    If you were raised as many Maori are……not knowing who your dad is/ bashed or molested by your step-dads/ left alone for days at a time while mum parties and forgets you exist (on YOUR benny money)/pimped out by mums gang mates….you’d be gagging for something to blot out the pain too.
    
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    June 26, 2017 12:05pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    It’s not just Maori / gangs using and dealing in Meth.
    
    The nice folks are getting in on the game.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/94079049/problems-in-paradise-waiheke-as-meth-found-in-raids
    
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    June 26, 2017 4:10pm
- starboard
  
  Hey, at least it keeps the loud mouthed brain dead idiot occupied. Nasty piece of work obviously got that gene from his mother.
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:17am
- sooty
  
  Translated = The meth is cutting to the profits of the bros cash crops. Hone wants to maintain their income stream!
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:16am
Maggy Wassilieff

Diversity on display:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40398469
Eco-friendly vehicles pushed by folks of a dark hue while white folks sit and dance on board.
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June 26, 2017 8:59am
- cmm
  
  Surely it should really be the other way around since black folks got rhythm.
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:19am
billmurray

Anyone know whats happened to Chris Trotter and Bowally Rd blog?.
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June 26, 2017 9:03am
- sooty
  
  Faded into ilrelevence.
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:21am
Manolo

The CNN hacks are being more cautious:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/cnn-russia-coverage-publishing-restrictions?utm_term=.rdD2jJ7dVY#.boJD192ePK
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June 26, 2017 9:14am
NK

How much was Glenys Dickson paid? I know, and I suspect the media know judging by Duncan Garner’s attack on Bumbling Bill this morning.

I *hope* all of you will be outraged when the amount is revealed. But I suspect you’ll all brush it away and claim it’s exactly what the Leader’s Budget is there for.

Did Bumbling Bill know the figure? He said to Drunken Garner this morning that he didn’t, and couldn’t know. Let’s wait and see how this unfolds.
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June 26, 2017 9:14am
- NK
  
  Why the downticks? Have any of you got any integrity and ethics?
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:22am
  - VicParking
    
    No I just like down ticking.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:24am
    - NK
      
      I know how it works. It it’s Labour it’s disgraceful and outrageous.
      
      If it’s National it’s OK because It’s not Labour doing it.
      
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      June 26, 2017 9:30am
      - NK
        
        One of the key components in any organisation is the ability to critically analyse your own team in order to improve.
        
        I’m on the right, but don’t you dare critically analyse the Nats on this site lest you get beset with disapproval ratings.
        
        That’s called sychophancy and will lose you the election.
        
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        June 26, 2017 9:39am
  - GoVege
    
    I feel your pain, NK.
    It hurts to be down-ticked.
    I have resolved never to down-tick again unless absolutely necessary.
    I’m still consumed with guilt for down-ticking the lovely Maggie recently…and for no better reason than being cross with Mr Govege!
    
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    June 26, 2017 12:15pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder174/64013174.jpg
      
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      June 26, 2017 2:13pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Perhaps if you stuck to facts without the name-calling, you’d get fewer downticks NK.
    
    PS: None of the downticks is mine 😀
    
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    June 26, 2017 12:55pm
- MickMac
  
  NK.
  He (Bill) should have resigned instead of continuing with the cover up.
  Now they are the same as LiarLabour and we can all see the Emperor has no clothes on.
  
  Party Vote for Winston to give Bill and Angry Andy a regal smack.
  ohh and keep the Watermelons way away from the Govt benches……..
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:55am
dime

LMAO Hone wants to bring the Dealth Penalty back – for Chinese only BAHAHAHAHA

this idiot must be the most racist prick in NZ.

of course, what he says hardly gets attention.

Imagine this though – some ACT! gets voted out next election.. but comes back with a policy of – dealth penalty for maori drug dealers!

reckon that would get a bit of coverage?

the chinese will no doubt be paying attention to the hate they are getting from the left. time to punish those fuckers at voting time.
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June 26, 2017 9:23am
- MickMac
  
  But there’s not that many of them and how many read, write English?
  
  He can’t rely on them.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:56am
  - dime
    
    “and how many read, write English?”
    
    plenty.
    
    if you were chinese why would you vote left when this guy could get into power? coupled with “chinese sounding names” labour.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:05am
  - MickMac
    
    Yep I forgot the oldies will do as their kids tell them whilst helping them in the ballot box.
    Still how many?
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:31am
    - dime
      
      86,514
      
      i can list them by name if you like?
      
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      June 26, 2017 10:46am
  - Happychappy
    
    IF Bill English is right why should he shut it down and the longer it goes it could come back to bite Winston on the arse. The media are so rapped up in trying to make a fool of English that nothing else like Housing, Health and Education are being mentioned and comments even on Winstons Policy that he announced yesterday is gasping for air so this might be a plan with Bill English being cleverer than most on here. You have to remember Peters is already calling Key and English zombies and hate just might not be what the voter wants to hear.
    
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    June 26, 2017 1:24pm
    - Lance
      
      The opposition are all making exactly the same mistakes as last election
      
      It’s like they can’t help themselves
      
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      June 26, 2017 1:35pm
CharlieBrown

http://i.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/93992265/chefs-beef-with-bureaucrats-arcane-new-rules-prohibit-restaurants-grilling-mediumrare-burger

So our left wing overlords in the national party are regulating how hamburgers are cooked, the fuckers are many times worse than the previous government, we are more regulated than ever yet idiots still support this hard left party.
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June 26, 2017 9:32am
- KevOB
  
  Public Servants sometimes need reining in.
  This is not Government but Departmental attitudes which need correction. Depts try to breed.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:57am
  - MickMac
    
    Like Policeman who set policy not carry it out.
    
    Each and everyone of them needs sacking including their leader.
    So the next one toes the line.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:58am
    - CharlieBrown
      
      Who controls these government servants, who appoints them? Who sets the policy? Either national are incompetent or proudly socialist.
      
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      June 26, 2017 10:07am
      - KevOB
        
        Our Public Service is thankfully independent of the Executive. Departments have permanent heads. Ministers have political oversight but not much else. Some such as the Minister of Revenue have powers as to writing off taxes beyond that delegated to the CIR. Other Ministers like the Attorney General are statutory creations.
        Ministers have a part to play in the Executive regulation making arising out Departmental policy concerns.
        
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        June 26, 2017 12:36pm
      - CharlieBrown
        
        Kev – This sort of overbearing indirect regulation has been going on and getting worse since national got to power, the government sets the policy and overall framework that the servants operate in. Given they have been in for 9 years and the regulation is worse one can only assume national not only accept it but fully endorse and believe in it. Stop apologizing for your very left wing party.
        
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        June 26, 2017 12:47pm
      - calendar girl
        
        “Ministers have political oversight but not much else.”
        
        KevOB, I accept what you write as a constitutional generalisation, but can you please give us your interpretation of what it means in practice, and what are its practical limitations?
        
        Helen Clark’s government got hammered over plans to regulate the flow of water through shower-heads. The idea was promptly dropped, no doubt for purely political reasons rather than plumbing-related issues.
        
        Here the present Government is incurring justifiable scorn as a result of MPI’s over-reach in attempting to regulate how a restaurant cooks its meat. So why shouldn’t ‘political Government’ tighten the reins on ‘bureaucratic government’ to prevent or minimise the relevant fallout that it is suffering? And how can it do that, in practice, without contravening constitutional conventions?
        
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        June 26, 2017 1:52pm
  - KevOB
    
    In reply:
    
    There is Departmental policy and Government policy. Departments continue on their own unless demolished or re-invented. Ministers are temporary and not necessarily familiar with departmental workings at all. Many do not need to be. They do not normally have offices in the Department.
    
    On a change of government departments are expected to accommodate policies mandated at an election. The departments are not involved electorally and may find a new government has something significant to implement at variance with departmental policy. A head who finds that intolerable is expected to find employment possibly in a different Department. Their duty is to carry out the mandate of a new government and meld that within their former departmental policies. Ministers cannot directly sack departmental heads; the State Service Commissions is their employer and many are career servants.
    
    Heads of departments are expected to respect the political will of their Minister and not to cause embarrassment to a Government by open opposition. They are expected to advise and assist their Minister so that the electoral mandated policy can be carried out. Also to further develop those policies in preference to their own former ones.
    
    Regulations are made under the empowering authority of statutes. These allow the Executive to create them through Orders in Council where they are signed off by the Governor General. Regulations start in the Dept and may or may not be drafted by them. The Minister in charge of the Dept will promote them after the preliminary consultations have been carried out with interested parties.
    
    I am not disagreeing that we may be becoming over governed at the micro level. It’s right to raise these issues. The most effective way ahead is to email the Minister with a copy to the Head of Department. That’s where the action is and well founded concerns will be acknowledged. Keep it up.
    
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    June 26, 2017 5:47pm
- MickMac
  
  Charlie Brown
  
  not hard left, LabourLite.
  
  The day my rare steak at Ortega comes with a warning is the time to sack that whole department.
  
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  June 26, 2017 9:57am
  - CharlieBrown
    
    This government is at the same part of the policy line as the alliance were in 1999, we considered them hard left at the time.
    
    They are 2017 labour lite, but they are 2007 labour heavy. National have embedded socialism more than any labour government could hope for.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:06am
- waikatogirl
  
  I was thinking about the story about regulation of not serving med rare hamburger meat. There is obviously a difference between commercially manufactured hamburger patties containing all manner of bits from the animal, and handmade mince patty made of all beef. The latter is, of course, fine served med rare. The former not so much.
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:29am
gump

Shouldn’t make promises you cannot keep:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/carrier-workers-betrayed-by-trumps-promise-to-save-their-jobs/
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June 26, 2017 9:33am
- 4077th
  
  Looks to me like Carrier is finally rinsing it’s company of the union and its members. Good!
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:02am
  - gump
    
    They’re sacking six hundred American workers and hiring Mexicans to replace them in a plant outside the USA.
    
    I thought that Trump was going to keep jobs in America?
    
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    June 26, 2017 12:13pm
    - GoVege
      
      Haha!
      That’ll be the day.
      Slaves are the ultimate business-owner’s dream employees. ..
      
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      June 26, 2017 12:18pm
      - dime
        
        “Slaves are the ultimate business-owner’s dream employees. ..”
        
        business owner/ labour party
        
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        June 26, 2017 1:05pm
    - 4077th
      
      60% of the workforce were unionised. The remaining 40% are not. The motor industry in the US was/is dominated by the unions and one of the main reasons for their slow demise.
      
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      June 26, 2017 1:17pm
DifferentPerspective

Police state

Unbelievable example of how the NZ Police are totally losing the plot and starting to act out of control.

Police showing no knowledge of the law, illegal searches, evidence tampering, incomplete disclosure, breaches of privacy, harrassment – it’s hard to find as bad a recent example of Police misuse of power.

As the victim is (was) President of the National Shooter’s Association – it’s hard not to think that this was part of the Police’s ongoing campaign to institute libtard gun-control measures.

I’m not holding my breath waiting to hear anything from Paula Bennett on the excesses of the boys in blue.
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June 26, 2017 9:48am
- MickMac
  
  DP
  
  I’ve heard the same issue from lawyers at Crown Prosecutions for years (a decade) probably.
  
  When they (Policemen/women) are sacked for performance like that and their management bosses too.
  Then we’ll see changes.
  
  The start of that is when we see names in print so they can’t hide amongst the rest of their gang in Blue.
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:01am
- srylands
  
  Why would anyone down-tick this? It is disturbing that someone could have their life damaged from being hounded for lawful conduct. It will be interesting to see the judgment. However, based on the facts provided, it looks like the police made an error of judgement and then kept on doubling down to justify it, and apparently with poor, or non-existent understanding of firearms law.
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:09am
  - MickMac
    
    Srylands
    
    How many times has this happened over the years?
    
    NZPolice as a group are politically compromised as shown by their leaderships antics in not curtailing the “policymaker Policeman”.
    
    Doubling down is a logical extension of the feeling of Emperiousness that they have as the biggest gang in the country, sadly.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:35am
  - Gabby
    
    He’s lucky they didn’t ‘feel threatened’.
    
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    June 26, 2017 1:53pm
- ross411
  
  What makes this sadder, is the comical way the police can’t seem to make sense, and are called Constable Savage, Constable Lewis… It sounds like a comedy skit, where some redneck hick police officer ignores the law and the facts, to make up their own laws.
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:56am
- Gabby
  
  That’sa FatCambo link.
  Unpleasant.
  
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  June 26, 2017 5:21pm
- Gabby
  
  The ‘victim’ thought he’d stroll around Ashburton, where some fuckstick murdered a couple of WINZers, with a rifle on his shoulder? He’s an arsehole full of shit and lucky not to get his fat head blown off.
  
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  June 26, 2017 5:25pm
KevOB

SUSAN EDMUNDS – Dangerous advice — my warning.

This woman appears on Stuff advising getting a home and mortgage now. The reason being the ultra high priced houses have collapsed.
She gives such trivia the intended audience should be wary. Is this just more tabloid filling?

There is very good reason to avoid buying at present. The global liquidity is now being reduced and we should be watchful. The most expensive properties feel this first.
This is the very time when those who have “missed out” enter markets and the sellers off-load to them to carry the ongoing corrective price drop. A time when a new mortgage becomes ultra risky: one may could eventually owe more than the value of the house after market correction.

I know its a gloomy prediction but we can’t stop the cyclical nature of markets. People seem to extend themselves to the limit of the available liquidity and when that is exhausted many speculators have to extricate or be extricated by lenders. Prices crash as cash is needed and forced sales have to be made: the unwilling seller becomes a price taker and so it spirals down. Wounds are licked and healing slowly occurs. People eventually re-organise and forget and a new cycle awaits.

The global Central Banks, the US Federal Reserve particularly, released enormous quantities of money at very low interest rates (some even minus!) which they are now calling in.

I have 49 years of research backing my opinion.
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June 26, 2017 9:51am
- MickMac
  
  It’s called History mate 🙂
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:02am
I've been to Mecca and you have not

Hone is advocating for the death penalty for Chinese P importers because they are in competition with Maori gangs.

-Hone enjoys the facade of ‘caring’ for the oprwessed Maori poor
-Hone appears to care about drugs
-Hone increases brown gangsters profits

Folks… it’s a sham scam.
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June 26, 2017 9:53am
MickMac

Mecca
I’m with you on this one.

– Let’s name the gangs.
– Let’s have a Kiwi map (both Islands) showing their Gang hideouts and businesess clear for all to see.
– Let’s see all the research up there as to their cost to society and to Maori….

no?
Why aren’t we serious about their cost to Maori?
No didn’t think so, they’re only brown aren’t they?
It doesn’t directly affect the voters enough.
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June 26, 2017 10:06am
- GoVege
  
  Unfortunately the gangs fulfill a social need.
  Where are all the legions of young unfathered Maori males gonna go when mum chucks ’em out for the new “cash cows”?
  Teenage boys cost a lot to feed .
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:43am
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/christchurch-life/94070472/chch-dilemmas-who-is-helping-the-children-of-east-christchurch

So here is a local folk-hero who is talking these kids up.

Quote: He tells them “they’re beautiful and they’re clever and they’re smart … all the things they might never have heard.”

Kisses and hugs with the girls coming out of school looks a bit “groomy” though.

Where are the useless loser parents?
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June 26, 2017 10:31am
- GoVege
  
  The sperm/egg donors are down the pub/pokies/TAB spending the money meant for the kids.
  Btw…if adult kids can be prosecuted for stealing their elderly parents’ money…can’t kid/adults be prosecuted for stealing their kids’ money?
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:26am
Keeping Stock

Rumour has it that Andrew Little is going to take two medium rare hamburgers to Question Time with him tomorrow.

I have to alert him that I have been advised that said hamburgers are leftovers from the BBQ at Grant’s place at the weekend, and he should act with caution 😀
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June 26, 2017 10:36am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Yessssssssssss, the mayo looks dodgy, the origin of the cheese is suspect and they may have used English beef!
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:47am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Just as well it wasn’t a Green Party BBQ, or they’d be vegetarian or “pretend” meat burgers!
    
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    June 26, 2017 1:00pm
    - VicParking
      
      Cooked on a solar barbacue, thats why they are rare
      
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      June 26, 2017 2:28pm
- 4077th
  
  The burgers should have a disclaimer:
  
  Assembled by intern fellows, may contain artificial opinions.
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:11am
  - KevOB
    
    Assembly of intern fellows.. diced and chopped in sausage meat chopper. Garner till done. Should be medium rare as these Yankee Burgers are devoid of taste except to own belittled ilk.
    
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    June 26, 2017 12:57pm
    - 4077th
      
      I should have said.. May contain artificial facts!
      
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      June 26, 2017 1:19pm
Notsofast

“A controversial scientific technique then linked him to the scene of the crime through what was said to be brain tissue on a shirt, while there was also doubtful evidence about Lundy’s supposed tampering of his home computer.

The Privy Council was unimpressed.

At the 2015 re-trial, the Crown presented a much-changed case and relied on different scientific techniques to argue Lundy was guilty. This evidence provides the basis of the latest appeal.

As tough as it is on Christine and Amber’s family and friends, Lundy has legal rights he can exercise.

If he is innocent or there was a major flaw in the case against him, the Court of Appeal is the place for him to make that case.

If the Crown case were robust, it should be defended as such.

Everyone’s entitled to a fair hearing, no matter what others think.”

Take note all as this trainwreck careers to the beehive, broadside into Adams and Collins who must deal with it. Jimmy Ellingham knows more than you lot, from a hostile locale.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/opinion/93338513/mark-lundys-appeal-might-not-be-popular-but-that-doesnt-matter
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June 26, 2017 10:48am
- Longknives
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flogging_a_dead_horse
  
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  June 26, 2017 10:55am
- VicParking
  
  Brains do not lie
  
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  June 26, 2017 2:29pm
  - Notsofast
    
    People lie.
    But this particular specimen was stated by Rod Miller as coming from a part of the brain with no neurons.
    How could this be? The critical point to understand is that the conclusion it was brain was in two parts
    1. It was central nervous system tissue.
    2. The rinse of the cut out patch contained Christine’s dna, confirming her dna was in the vicinity.
    
    It is a logical non sequitur to describe this as Christine’s brain. Morgan QC stating this 33 times in summing up does not substitute for the science that can prove he was wrong.
    I am happy to catalogue this here for prosperity. Keeping Lundy in jail does not change science but costs the state more and perpetuates the liberty of the killers who might be located.
    As it stands you have a rogue district commander in Sue Schwalger, who refused to seek the killers of Scott Guy.
    
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    June 26, 2017 3:20pm
Longknives

Glastonbury 2017- Johnny Depp drunkenly slurring away to the crowd about killing the President, Lorde warbling away with her horrible manufactured pop rubbish, and then Jeremy Corbyn ranting on about Socialism to the crowd!
Christ I don’t mind the Foo Fighters (Who were the actual headliners- NOT Lorde as reported by TVNZ) but I’m not sorry I missed that…
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June 26, 2017 10:54am
- dime
  
  yeah sounds like a terrible day out.
  
  Lorde steals the show haha every time she appears lol sad fucks.
  
  good on her for hitting number 1 though – 80,000 sold in the US. low number. shows how fucked that industry is.
  
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  June 26, 2017 1:16pm
  - Longknives
    
    Last week Lorde was claiming she is channeling the spirit of David Bowie as she alleges they had some kind of ‘spiritual connection’ or something.
    I wish someone in the gushing NZ media would call her on this garbage- maybe ‘pop quiz’ her and ask her favourite three Bowie Albums? I would confidently bet this silly little girl would struggle to name one..
    
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    June 26, 2017 2:00pm
- Flash
  
  Did it rain as well?
  
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  June 26, 2017 2:00pm
Fletch

Well, well, well… With all this talk of FBI investigations, etc, look who is likely under actual FBI investigation – Bernie Sanders and his wife, for bank fraud.

http://www.newsweek.com/jane-sanders-bernie-sanders-fraud-loans-burlington-college-628570
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June 26, 2017 11:12am
- dime
  
  bernie is like the hard core, anti-gay, religous senator who gets caught screwing men in his spare time.
  
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  June 26, 2017 1:16pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sir Ngatata Love fails to appeal his prison sentence
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/94076699/court-of-appeal-declines-former-iwi-leader-sir-ngatata-loves-appeal
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June 26, 2017 11:19am
- MickMac
  
  good.
  
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  June 26, 2017 11:26am
GoVege

Did the money get paid back?
The fella is 79 years old!
Surely home detention would do the job!
Just wish we would see the same punishment dished out to serial breeders pimping out their kids.
Now that would be worth throwing someone in the slammer for (plus stop them reproducing for a few years.)
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June 26, 2017 11:32am
Fletch

The people arguing for tax of fizzy drinks are at it again *sigh*. Hillary whatshername from Breakfast was arguing with a guy from the drink companies again this morning.
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June 26, 2017 11:44am
- Inandout
  
  You…watch…Breakfast..on One?
  
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  June 26, 2017 12:15pm
  - Fletch
    
    LOL, goodness, no! The story turned up in my Facebook feed.
    
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    June 26, 2017 12:33pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Equally repugnant.
      
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      June 26, 2017 1:03pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Dr Sunburn or something from FIZZ. They don’t even know what an acronym is. ‘Fighting sugar in soft drinks’. Huh ?
  
  It’s milk or water. No sugar – probably no artificial sweeteners. Milk or bloody water. They don’t mention tea. Is tea sinful ?
  
  Good luck making soft drinks illegal by 2025 idiots. Sugar and tobacco – not the same. Idiots. Coming soon – the Govt approved diet and rationing book. And report for your exercise class or we’ll find you and double it.
  
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  June 26, 2017 2:44pm
holysheet

Liabores slave policy in a nutshell.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/business-commerce-egypt-ancient_egyptian-egyptian-pyramid-worker-jsi0066_low.jpg
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June 26, 2017 11:56am
- Gabby
  
  Is Jordy Willy, retarded little brother of Jimmy Carr, sticking with the slave line?
  
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  June 26, 2017 5:11pm
big bruv

Just flicking through the TV channels on Sky. It seems that who ever decides on the schedule for the E channel has a sense of humour.
12.30 to day we have ‘I am Cait’ followed by ‘Botched by Nature’
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June 26, 2017 12:36pm
- dime
  
  BAHAHAHA
  
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  June 26, 2017 1:18pm
GoVege

I was perusing the June issue of Police News last night and was horrified to discover Elder Abuse Day and Week has come and gone with hardly a word.
In fact the only person to mention it on Kiwiblog was the much maligned Penny.
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June 26, 2017 12:42pm
- Longknives
  
  Yikes- Police News? Bit short of reading material Go Vege?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce2dfvDIMUk
  
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  June 26, 2017 12:50pm
- sooty
  
  Yer, we did not abuse her enough!
  
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  June 26, 2017 4:21pm
Manolo

Looking for a leader. Crooked Hillary put her hand up:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/string-defeats-democrats-rudderless-trump-era-065313902.html
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June 26, 2017 1:20pm
Left Right and Centre

Tutira mai nga iwi – *aue*
Yeah, good one. Really caught on well so far eh ?

Now where’s my 20-30 upticks bitches !!
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June 26, 2017 2:04pm
- Longknives
  
  Didn’t take Nostradamus to predict that ramming a dull Maori song down the throats of NZ Rugby fans and expecting them to all painstakingly learn the words simply wasn’t going to work!
  
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  June 26, 2017 2:34pm
  - doggone7
    
    Didn’t take Nostradamus to predict that most would be too thick to learn a few Maori words.
    
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    June 26, 2017 4:18pm
    - nasska
      
      Less of us could be arsed with making the effort.
      
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      June 26, 2017 4:34pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    What was truly ironic was the song that got everyone singing at Eden Park on Saturday night was Fred Daggs “Gumboot” song.
    
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    June 26, 2017 7:57pm
Happychappy

I guess all you NZ First fans will watching one of NZ’s finest soldiers
and his brother on Nigel Latta documentary Beyond the Darklands tonight on TV One. More Taxpayers money being used for Political gaiñ.
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June 26, 2017 2:32pm
- Jack5
  
  Careful, Happychappy, the English-Peters coalition may make him Minister of Defence.
  
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  June 26, 2017 3:33pm
  - Happychappy
    
    There will not be a NZ First, National Government and your faith is misguided Winston has already said there would be no deal if English is PM.
    
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    June 26, 2017 4:16pm
Jack5

More fruit from Radio NZ’s Maorification project ….

A report on Maori attitudes to immigration, including this, referring to Arama Rata, of Waikato University, who has been researching immigration from a Maori perspective:

She [Rata] points to 2007, when Dame Tariana Turia, then co-leader of the Maori Party, said the number of immigrants settling in New Zealand was stopping the ‘browning up of New Zealand’.

“I think Tariana Turia’s comments were really about exposing the inherent racism within the immigration system. So she was calling out the immigration policy for specifically privileging certain peoples over others, and I think it’s quite perverse that she was then labelled racist for the comments that she made.”

In other words a “Brown New Zealand” policy. “White Australia” bad, “Brown New Zealand” good?

Turia, herself of mixed parentage, might have been more accurate talking about the “lightening up” of Maori through intermarriage. Compare the hue of most present-day Maori with the duskier folk pictured by foreign visitors two centuries and more ago.

(Rata has a Ph.D. in psychology from Victoria University, and is a researcher in the arts and sciences department at Waikato. Her details on the university site say she is “currently involved with research relating to Maori health experiences, Maori in rural communities, as well as iwi consultancy.”)
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June 26, 2017 2:44pm
big bruv

Opps, John McEnroe is in deep shit again. This time it is for telling the truth.
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/sport/tennis/john-mcenroe-if-serena-williams-played-the-men%E2%80%99s-circuit-she%E2%80%99d-rank-%E2%80%98like-700%E2%80%99/ar-BBDet1r?li=AAaeXZz&ocid=ientp
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June 26, 2017 2:45pm
- Longknives
  
  Karsten Braasch was ranked in the 200s. He took on Serena and Venus in a ‘Battle of the Sexes’ Match a few years ago.
  He beat them both easily- While smoking a cigarette between sets!
  *This has pretty much been erased from modern sports history as we seemingly are being brainwashed the ridiculous line about Serena being ‘The Greatest Athlete in History’..(Her own ludicrous claim!)
  
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  June 26, 2017 4:22pm
- Fletch
  
  I guess all it would take would be for some mediocre male tennis player to claim he is trans, take on the Williams sisters, win, and become the number one female tennis player in the world. It’s been done recently in weightlifting and running.
  
  Having said that, almost the exact battle of the sexes has happened before in 1973 and the woman won –
  
  On September 20, 1973, tens of thousands of people crammed into the Houston Astrodome in the scorching afternoon heat. About 90 million more sat in front of their televisions in eager anticipation. Everyone was dying to watch what had been dubbed “the Battle of the Sexes.”
  
  Bobby Riggs, one of the greatest tennis stars in history, had challenged female tennis star Billie Jean King to a match for show. Riggs, who made no effort to hide his sexist disdain for women in sports, had been taunting King, who had collected ten singles titles before turning thirty, for some time. Riggs was constantly provoking King and other rising female tennis stars with misogynistic jeers like “the best way to handle women is to keep them pregnant and barefoot,” or “women belong in the bedroom and kitchen, in that order,” and “Women play about 25 percent as good as men, so they should get about 25 percent of the money men get.”
  
  One woman had already taken Riggs’s bait. Margaret Cook, then the highest-ranked woman in tennis, agreed to play him for a cash prize of $10,000. In what became known as the “Mother’s Day Massacre,” Riggs walloped her 6-2, 6-1. Making things worse, Cook told reporters afterward that she was outmatched. “We girls don’t play like that,” she said.
  
  But Riggs wasn’t satisfied; he wanted to beat Billie Jean King, whom he called a “women’s libber leader.” He challenged her repeatedly, saying, “I’ll play her on clay, grass, wood, cement, marble or roller skates. We got to keep this sex thing going. I’m a woman specialist now.”
  
  To everyone’s shock, King finally agreed to an exhibition match with a $100,000 purse. Before a combined live and TV audience of nearly 100 million, at the time the biggest audience for any tennis match in history, King entered the arena dressed like Cleopatra and carried by men in togas, while Riggs was wheeled in by half-naked women labeled “Bobby’s bosom buddies.” King gifted Riggs with a baby pig, and Riggs gave King a giant “Sugar Daddy” lollipop, which he described as “the largest sucker I could find for the biggest sucker I know.”
  
  But “the Battle of the Sexes” was not a circus spectacle. Despite the gimmicks, it was truly emblematic of women’s struggle to lay claim to a broader role in society and to establish whether new opportunities for them on paper meant anything in reality.
  In what many have called a turning point for women, Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs fair and square in all three sets. The History Channel later reported that “the Battle of the Sexes turned King into arguably the first superstar female athlete in the United States.” King went on to form a public truce with Riggs, and the two became lifelong friends.
  
  Sex Scandal: The Drive To Abolish Male and Female, Ashley McGuire
  – Regenery Publishing
  
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  June 26, 2017 4:53pm
  - sam green
    
    That’s a great story. I remember hearing about it.
    
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    June 26, 2017 5:05pm
big bruv

Jack5
RNZ and their maorification does at times annoy me, also, at times I find myself doubled over with laughter.
During the days after the Grenfell Tower tragedy I constantly heard the various PC announcers on RNZ follow some local story with news of Grenfell. As always the announcers went out of their way to pronounce NZ Maori names in the politically acceptable fashion only then to go on and murder the name of the head of the London Metropolitan Police. The thing that made me laugh is that it is not a hard name to get right, all they had to do is make a little bit of an effort but I suspect they spent that time making sure they got the name of some insignificant Northland town right.
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June 26, 2017 2:53pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  Yeah – they’ll never mispronounce ‘Whangarei’.
  
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  June 26, 2017 3:28pm
- doggone7
  
  There is no insignificant Northland town.
  
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  June 26, 2017 4:16pm
  - big bruv
    
    The entire fucking region is insignificant.
    
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    June 26, 2017 4:38pm
- mandk
  
  Nah, the Poms don’t know how to pronounce names: it’s Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Crissida Duck.
  
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  June 26, 2017 4:59pm
Jack5

To be argued in court: that a ban on begging is contrary to the Bill of Rights.

I guess that if Amnesty Aotearoa NZ, the Red Cross, and other Left-ified charities can plague us with young folk door knocking on commission, then Napier’s street beggars might have a point.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/94076760/beggars-go-to-court-arguing-that-begging-is-a-fundamental-freedom-of-expression
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June 26, 2017 3:30pm
Manolo

The Left defeated, and a clear victory for the centre-right in Italy’s local elections:
http://www.lastampa.it/2017/06/26/cultura/opinioni/editoriali/la-dbcle-del-centrosinistra-renzi-non-pu-fare-finta-di-nulla-7FoWsRYJitVhUqXtu04bHK/pagina.html
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June 26, 2017 3:50pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  But will this stave off a melt-down of the Euro?
  http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40400210
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:07pm
Jack5

Any NZ financial eyebrows being raised over the Bank of International Settlements (the BIS) talk about a global crash?

Here’s what Ambrose Evans-Pritchard says behind the paywall of the Telegraph:

The venerable Swiss-based institution says the financial system is about to be tested as the US Federal Reserve steps up the pace of monetary tightening.

A decade of ultra-loose money has kept the lid on debt service costs and masked risk.

“Policy normalisation presents unprecedented challenges,” it said in its annual report. It could “trigger or amplify a financial bust in the more vulnerable countries.”

Here’s what is reported in the site of Australia’s ABC news:

Australia and several other economies that escaped the worst of the global financial crisis are now threatened by their massive run-up in household debt, the BIS has warned.

NZ has moderate government debt. But the Hooerald reported recently that New Zealand’s household debt level, relative to the size of the economy, is one of the highest in the developed world.

The BIS is the Swiss-based central bank of central bankers has a record of giving valid warnings of financial crises.

http://www.cityam.com/267305/next-global-crash-could-come-vengeance-bank-international

The Hooerald on NZ debt levels:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11651662
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June 26, 2017 4:17pm
- Gruffydd
  
  Property will be the first to go.
  Money gets tight mortgage costs rise and the over leveraged investors go belly up.
  Investing on an expectation of endless capital gains with no added value is not sustainable.
  We are due for a recession.
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:20pm
Happychappy

The Herald have a Column up inferring this is Bill English and Dirty Politics, what a bunch of jumped pricks that we have as Journalists in NZ and there corrupt Journalism to try and change the Government.
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June 26, 2017 5:29pm
- doggone7
  
  You mean this?
  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11882180
  
  Being pedantic the Herald don’t infer, they imply.
  Readers infer from what is written. Readers probably infer that Bill is a liar. Readers probably infer there’s been skulduggery. They probably infer the whole thing is a bit of a kick in the guts to bill’s lot. (and you) A self-administered kick in the guts and you seem to be blaming journalists.
  Don’t do nasty stuff and there’d be nothing to report.
  
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  June 26, 2017 5:35pm
- Gabby
  
  We know Bingles is really covering the arse of the crappy chappy who suggested to Wee Toddy Baccy it might be a good asprayshn to tape some office convisashns going forward.
  
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  June 26, 2017 5:45pm
  - Jack5
    
    Gabby, the Clutha-Southland electorate will trash Labour totally in its section of the election. Put your money on that.
    
    Gabby, have you offered your garden shed as accommodation for some of Labour’s electoral slaves?
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:22pm
- Gabby
  
  Is Whine Evilson still squelching around the beltway?
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:47pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Another collection of links from Dr Bryce Edwards, formerly of the Alliance. He carefully selects what is included and what isn’t, to fit his narrative.
  
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  June 26, 2017 7:06pm
  - Jack5
    
    Edwards, as you say, a former apparatchik of the far-left Alliance Party, excludes, or at best minimises anything right of centre-left.
    
    Shame on the Hooerald for running Edwards’ biased crap as though it were an unbiased representation of the blogosphere.
    
    The gap in the media market is on the Right, and the hapless amateurs who own the Hooerald can’t see that.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:21pm
nasska

…..” there’d be nothing to report”…..

They’ll have that hole covered…..they’d just invent some anti-National tripe to fill in the gaps.
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June 26, 2017 5:42pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Essential reading …

Political Roundup: Is Tapegate Bill English’s 2017 version of the Dirty Politics scandal? – NZ Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11882180

… extract …

… According to Roke, the spin-focused politics and Barclay-type cover-ups mean a new type of politics is necessary: “He is only 27 and was already showing signs of a career liar in the making. Imagine what kind of sociopath he could have become with another couple of decades in the Beehive? As much as I despise the phrase and despise the man who said it even more – let’s drain the swamp. Time to get rid of these career politicians. The ones that have been in the game far too long and have forgotten why they are there in the first place. To serve the people of New Zealand. To look out for the best interests of the people in their electorate. Let’s get some fresh blood in there. Young minds with fresh ideas that aren’t there for the money, cars, travel and benefits. Fresh ideas to fix up the absolute mess the ‘experienced’ politicians have left us in with housing, immigration, water etc.”

Dirty Politics inside the National Party

The Barclay scandal also helps illustrate some of the internal National Party machinations and in-fighting that the public wouldn’t normally be aware of. After all, at the centre of this scandal was a war going on between, not just one MP and one staff member, but also between wider factions, officials and agendas.

The most interesting new aspect in this regard is revealed in Melanie Reid’s latest must-read Newsroom article, Barclay affair: What the board knew. This deals with some of the attempts that were made within the local Clutha-Southland National Party branch to get Barclay de-selected, and also some of the involvement of the National Party’s president and board members.

Apparently, prior to Barclay’s reselection as the National candidate in December last year, local activists made the party president and board aware of why they regarded the MP an inappropriate representative. According to Reid, “The National Party President Peter Goodfellow and its board allowed Todd Barclay to be selected as a candidate for the upcoming election despite knowing he was clearly unsuitable to be an MP.” She says that “In total, the board received at least nine letters outlining Barclay’s unsuitability as an MP.” … read more via hyperlink above …

‘I’ve got nothing to add’: Bill English on repeat over Todd Barclay controversy – NZ Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11882258
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- Keeping Stock
  
  Hugh Pavletich
  
  … Essential reading …
  
  Seems like the ultimate oxymoron to me; just sayin’…
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:18pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    … Meet THE NOTHING PARTY …
    
    ‘I’ve got nothing to add’: Bill English on repeat over Todd Barclay controversy – NZ Herald
    
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11882258
    
    … PM Bill ‘NOTHING TO ADD’ English of the (Policy – Free) NOTHING PARTY asked to produce copies of the Todd Barclay Tapes …
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp9BJxFHDYI
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:38pm
Rodney Randall

Anyone else see Emma Keeling’s (tvnz one) puff piece about POOR WEE MUSLIMS in the UK suffering from the threat of terrorist attacks during Ramadan??

TVNZ have successfully inverted the narrative to poor innocent Muslims under siege from white terrorism.

“Islamic extremists killed more than 1,620 people during this year’s holiest month for Muslims, marking one of the deadliest Ramadans in modern history, reveals a Breitbart News tally”

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/06/07/ramadan-rage-2017-complete-list-jihadist-attacks-around-world/

FUCK OFF TVNZ.
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June 26, 2017 6:32pm
- big bruv
  
  I did see that Rodney, this is the norm for Islamic scum. They and their compliant MSM are more than happy to paint them as the victims.
  Meanwhile their low life Muslim London mayor cannot bring himself to condemn Hezbollah.
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:40pm
- Inandout
  
  I haven’t watched TV news for months, and I still know what is going on.
  
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  June 26, 2017 7:36pm
dad4justice

TVNZ are muslim loving lickspittles.
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June 26, 2017 6:36pm
- Rodney Randall
  
  Aren’t they just!
  
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  June 26, 2017 6:41pm
V

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/94073397/murder-rifle-going-back-to-the-bain-camp

Old Bains getting his rifle back. I wonder if the Aussie authorities will let him have it.
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June 26, 2017 7:00pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  I hope his new family keeps a close eye on him, especially if he gets a paper run.
  
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  June 26, 2017 7:08pm
- noskire
  
  Apparently he has landed a new job in Australia as a photographer – specialising in family shots.
  
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  June 26, 2017 7:37pm
Lucia Maria

Trump’s Delusion Syndrome

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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June 26, 2017 7:00pm
nasska

Labour have pledged to invest in Auckland and create 100,000 jobs if they win the election.

The National Party now regard Mt Roskill as a safe seat.
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June 26, 2017 7:35pm
starboard

Scum marries scum

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/94107960/notorious-prisoner-marrying-disgraced-lawyer
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June 26, 2017 8:07pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Beat me to it starboard.
  I was going to add that to the one about Bain getting his gun back and ask what sort of a fucked-up country are we living in?
  
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  June 26, 2017 8:13pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    He’ll no doubt cradle it every night; stroking the barrel while whispering “Yesss preciousss. We tricksed them. Yesss we dids”
    
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    June 26, 2017 8:33pm
  - Jack5
    
    The social liberals have turned our justice system into a welfare scheme for criminals.
    
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    June 26, 2017 9:15pm
  - V
    
    Yes you have to wonder what kind of sick f*ck requires back possession of the implement that killed his whole family.
    
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    June 26, 2017 10:02pm
Captain Mainwaring

Item 9561 in the MSM’s ‘change the Government’ narrative.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11882181

Maybe not getting pregnant (again) and not falling out with your parents may have been a couple of suggestions.
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June 26, 2017 8:23pm
RF

Are the up tick / down tick boxes closer together.

My boss hogg fingers keep hitting the wrong box…..

Please separate them…..
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June 26, 2017 9:04pm
starboard

Bain gets out of prison and is asked what he plans to do first – “Go to Kentucky Fried, I could murder a family pack.”
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June 26, 2017 9:48pm
- Left Right and Centre
  
  keep that up – I need all the laughs I can get
  
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