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duggledog

Man you gotta hear the venom in Katherine Ryan’s interview with the guy representing ‘RentBerry’ – an app which (among many other features) allows renters to bid against each other to get the property:

“[For landlords] we automatically also pull credit reports, do background checks and do criminal reports on every single applicant.”

Ooh.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201844661/rent-bidding-apps-heading-for-nz

Naturally Ryan was openly hostile but the gentleman being interviewed explained it well, and that the bidding process is simply the right of the landlord. The app also allows the landlord to vet the applicants too.

I think this app will help landlords a lot especially overseas based landlords, but it’s possibly bad news for property managers and further bad news for shit tenants who can’t access the private market or (now) the state sector – as once you’ve been kicked out of a state house for bad behaviour, unpaid rent etc you can’t just apply for a new one the next day.

Once this app beds in, expect more bedding in – in the backs of Nissan Homy vans.
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May 23, 2017 8:01am
- doggone7
  
  “The venom in Katherine Ryan’s interview”?
  “Ryan was openly hostile”?
  
  Do you mean Ryan asked questions? I heard Alex Lubinsky being given ample chance to present and explain his rental apps. I heard Ryan asking questions from a consumer’s perspective.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:14am
  - lifesgood
    
    Come on don’t be cute. You know both Ryan and Kim Hill are strident lefties and will always be hostile to anyone who doesn’t carry the red flag. Kim Hill gave the nastiest of interviews to Alan Gibbs recently. Really painting him as utterly selfish and never once mentioning the millions he has donated to the arts or the fact that he opens his amazing estate to the public FOR FREE>
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:56am
    - krazykiwi
      
      I listened to the Gibbs interview. Hill was rude and nasty, and to his credit Gibbs just ignored the barbs and answered kindly.
      
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      May 23, 2017 10:54am
    - howitis
      
      Two words:
      Get Spotify.
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:39pm
krazykiwi

The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct, a hoax study has been peer-reviewed and published in a respectable scientific journal. Here’s the background:

Gender studies is a fake academic industry populated by charlatans, deranged activists and gullible idiots. Now, a pair of enterprising hoaxers has proved it scientifically by persuading an academic journal to peer-review and publish their paper claiming that the penis is not really a male genital organ but a social construct ::: The two hoaxers are Peter Boghossian, a full-time faculty member in the Philosophy department at Portland State University, and James Lindsay, who has a doctorate in math and a background in physics.

Here’s how they did it:

"We intended to test the hypothesis that flattery of the academic Left’s moral architecture in general, and of the moral orthodoxy in gender studies in particular, is the overwhelming determiner of publication in an academic journal in the field." ::: "We didn’t try to make the paper coherent; instead, we stuffed it full of jargon (like "discursive" and "isomorphism"), nonsense (like arguing that hypermasculine men are both inside and outside of certain discourses at the same time), red-flag phrases (like "pre-post-patriarchal society")" ::: No claim made in the paper was considered too ludicrous by the peer-reviewers: not even the one claiming that the penis is the conceptual driver behind much of climate change.

It’s an enjoyable read from Delingpole. Once over lightly and you’ll smile, but think about it a bit, and you may well become pissed off.
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May 23, 2017 8:01am
- mikenmild
  
  This is old hat:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
  Also, it depends very much on the journal. Predatory journals will publish anything, even papers from academics that contain nothing but the words ‘get me off your fucking mailing list’.
  http://www.scs.stanford.edu/~dm/home/papers/remove.pdf
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:09am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Sokal was 20 years ago. The peer review process was broken then, and it’s still broken. Yet it’s [ab]used to justify 10s of billions of dollars of my money and yours annually, combating so-called ‘climate change’
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:21am
    - Kimbo
      
      Leaving aside the particular and vexed issue (here on KB, anyway) of climate change, peer review ain’t “broken”. Like anything with human input it is subject to vagaries. Nonetheless, on balance it works, and is still the best system to try and safeguard academic integrity. But like anything it needs continual maintenance and scrutiny.
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:59am
      - krazykiwi
        
        The gradual politicisation of science has led to reduced integrity, reduced emphasis on scientific method, and increased evidence of tribalism and/or outright corruption of the peer review process.
        
        It’s broken, but apparently more so in some branches of science than in others. The scrutiny you call for is needed now more than ever.
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:13am
      - Kimbo
        
        Science, and the Arts have always been “politicised”. There is no such thing as neutrality, even in the hard sciences. Some may not like to hear that post-positivist assessment, but nonetheless what one chooses to study, and experiment are determined, in part, by political, economic and cultural biases.
        
        So the best thing to do is attempt to ensure all the cards held by the researcher and other stake-holders are on the table…
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:45am
      - stephieboy
        
        Krazykiwi,
        
        “..The scrutiny you call for is needed now more than ever.”
        
        Like in climate denial and creation” science ” ?
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:59am
    - SGA
      
      Speaking of broken – I can’t get that link of yours to work (404 error). Please can you tell me the name of the journal so I can see if it is, as you say, a “respectable scientific journal” (for a start, it’s an odd thing for a scientific journal to be publishing at all – looks more humanities to me).
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:01am
      - krazykiwi
        
        Sorry, link was munged. It’s here.
        
        The paper was published by Cogent Social Sciences – “a multidisciplinary open access journal offering high quality peer review across the social sciences”
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:16am
      - SGA
        
        For heavens sake, krazykiwi – “a respectable scientific journal”. What absolute nonsense.
        First, Cogent Social Sciences, despite its name, isn’t what most here would call a scientific journal. Second, it was founded in 2015, and doesn’t even have an impact factor (a loose, but widely used measure to determine the prestige of an academic journal). Third, it’s a pay-to-publish, open-access journal (such journals often have a token review system so that they can call themselves “peer reviewed”, but what they want is the cash).
        You want to discredit “climate change” research on the basis of this “hoax”? Please…
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:26am
      - krazykiwi
        
        A fair criticism. I didn’t research the journal as you have. Thanks for doing so. Also, I’d not heard of ‘impact factors’, so something to learn about.
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:37am
      - SGA
        
        I assume Breitbart/Delingpole didn’t bother either (or they did, and didn’t want to spoil a good story with facts)
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:42am
      - Kimbo
        
        Thanks, SGA
        
        Are you also able to confirm if “Prager University” is a university? 😉
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:52am
      - SGA
        
        All the best people have degrees from PragerU.
        While I think of it, Kimbo, are you still looking for an accessible physics/cosmology book for a layperson? If so (and it hasn’t already been recommended), you might try “The Big Bang”, by Simon Singh. Singh has a PhD in particle physics, but is now a popular science writer/TV producer. A little like Bill Bryson in his communication style (history and personalities as well as the science).
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:17am
      - Kimbo
        
        OK, thanks.
        
        I do have a need for more physics/cosmology knowledge, both theoretical and practical. No joking, I have a friend, very clever albeit unorthodox, wilful and self-taught in much of his problem-solving and analytical skill, who is now convinced that “flat earth” is the correct cosmology.
        
        As he is also a Christian with the pre-understanding that the Scriptures, of their very nature must also be scientifically accurate. I sometimes debate with Scott that the earth presented in Genesis is a flat disc on pillars, underneath a solid dome sky. But that is only belated corroboration for my friend (who used to think that genesis taught a heliocentric arrangement, although the hermeneutical scales have now fallen from his eyes!)
        
        …compared to the practical experiments he has been conducting to falsify curvature. And, of necessity, that means there is a conspiracy to keep the true knowledge of cosmology hidden.
        
        On the Scriptures I can agree (but not the application!), but when it comes to the arguments and data for an orthodox understanding of the Universe (flat earthers call it “ballism”! 😉 ), it is like a Jehovah’s Witness engaging with someone with just a passing knowledge of the Scriptures – I am getting my arse kicked! 😉
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:32am
      - SGA
        
        That book would be a very good fit for those needs, I think. It starts with why the ancients thought the earth was round, Eratosthenes of Cyrene’s efforts to measure its circumference (circa 276 BCE), why early scientists (not just the church) were reluctant to adopt a heliocentric model of our solar system, through to the battle between “steady state” and “big bang” advocates last century.
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:42am
- Random T Person
  
  Did you see the epic hoax perpetrated on the Huffington Post South Africa? Similar to the Sokal affair, a chap by the name of Marius Roodt exposed the lefty feminist nonsense machine of that title. Do some quick google foo if interested, it is a fascinating takedown.
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:13am
Paulus Gnome

Rohan Lord has withdrawn his candidacy for East Coast Bays after being placed 72nd on the labour party list.

Lord has repeated on rabid red this morning, one of the reasons as ‘no chance for white, middle class men – unless you’ve been around for a very long time.’

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11860861

Little denies this is true when later questioned by Fergusson at 7.45; ‘tried to find a place further up the list’ asked specifically if he was disadvantaged by being white or a male, Little obfuscated about ‘maori, people who have come before have tried before, only his first go, does not always happen the first time but will do better next time around’; blather, blather, blather.

Priyanca Radhakrishnan, at number 11 anyone? One try before in 2014 so Rohan Lord will be a shoe in on the list in 2020 for sure.

Good luck with the next labour candidate for East Coast Bays (double blue rinse territory), the one legged lesbian maori fluent in Gaelic but with a lisp will be a winner for sure.
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May 23, 2017 8:05am
- mikenmild
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  If you don’t like how they treated No 72 on the list; don’t vote for them.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:12am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    You seem to have just missed the point Mike, try again but no cigar this time round
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:20am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      mikenmild missing the point? Surely not…
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:24am
- MCos
  
  I’ve never heard of Rohan Lord.
  Maybe he’s useless despite his obvious ethnic superiority.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:27am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    He is batting for the labour team, useless is the default setting, nothing to do with your racist slur
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:33am
    - MCos
      
      Quite obviously the ‘racial slur’, as you put it, was sarcastic.
      There are numerous comments on this forum to the effect that being some sort of minority in the Labour Party trumps ability as represented by the white, middle class.
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:59am
Keeping Stock

All’s well in Andrew Little and Jacinda Ardern’s united Labour Party:

Labour’s East Coast Bays candidate has pulled the plug, because he’s not happy with being placed at 72nd on the Party list.

Former Yachting New Zealand and London Olympics team manager Rohan Lord was keen to use his business and fundraising background to knuckle down and make some changes in the seat, which has been held by outgoing-National MP Murray McCully since 1987.

But Mr Lord said he was left disheartened when he was told where he’d been placed on the list.

“I’ve got a lot of respect for the other candidates, for different reasons, getting up and giving it a go. But I can’t see anyone on the list with my business-like experience – and I think they need that.”

“People, with all due respect, who’re 21 [and have] limited experience, were higher on the list than me.”

Mr Lord says he fundamentally believes in Labour values, a fair deal for ever New Zealander, and says he would have given it a good go. But he believes the Party’s missing out on middle New Zealand.

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/labour-candidate-rohan-lord-drops-out-after-low-placing-on-party-list/.WSK7WbtSyRk.facebook

Lord is dead right about Labour missing out on middle New Zealand. Andrew Little specifically ruled that out last year when it was suggested by Helen Clark that a move to the centre would be good.

But Lord’s not done:

Mr Lord said in the end he couldn’t see a future for himself as a Labour candidate, but he respects all those who are.

“I know some of the reasons why. They talk about a 50/50 woman, man split in caucus and I agree with that. And I’m saying this in a real positive way. But if you’re woman, you’re ethnic, or Maori, you’re higher on the list than anyone who’s white, male or middle class. I just couldn’t see a path forward at all.

“If the current rules stay the same in the Labour caucus there’s no chance for white, middle class men – unless you’ve been around for a very long time. But that’s just reality, whether it’s good or bad, it’s reality.”

He’s right on the money. Labour is so obsessed with equality, that it has to introduce a quota system, and it seems that Lord has fallen foul of the Man Ban. That started under David Cunliffe, and has got worse under Little. The only exemption for white, middle aged men is to be like Greg O’Connor or Little himself, and come from the unions, the real power-brokers in Labour.

The Labour Party has made its equality bed, and now has to lie in it. Good on Rohan Lord for opening up on the can of worms that is the Labour Party.
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May 23, 2017 8:08am
- holysheet
  
  Liabore have given up on trying for the white male votes. Instead they are going after the weirdo vote. There must be far more LGBTwhateverthefuckyouare voters out there than what we ever thought.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:23am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    We are a Great big melting pot… and filled with Alphabet soup to nearly cover the nuts in the bottom.
    The rest of society has to pander to them.
    A pity that they can’t see the irony of demanding that they have the choice to be seen as however they want, but demand that the rest of society has no right to ignore them.
    And if you don’t do what they want, they will use the liberal press that feeds on controversy, however contrived, to attack you and shut down your views.
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:19am
- kowtow
  
  “Lord is dead right about Labour missing out on middle New Zealand”
  
  It’s a pity for middle New Zealand that the only option is Notional, an option which is the least worst , says more about Notional than it does about Labour.
  
  Attacks on private property (tobacco) ,embracing institutionalised racism through the Maori Party,pissing off licensed firearms holders and in today’s post we see the massive extension of the state and Maori issues in the new domestic violence bill.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:25am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    in today’s post we see the massive extension of the state and Maori issues in the new domestic violence bill.
    
    You may well see that kowtow. But if you do a little digging, you will find that what is being changed is the name of the Domestic Violence Act 1995, to better reflect the changes in family structures over the past 22 years. The fact that whanau are being specifically mentioned is surely a reflection of what a number of commenters here regularly suggest; that Maori are responsible for a disproprtionate amount of violent crime, both within a family/whanau setting and beyond it. It’s hardly a “massive extension of the state” to acknowledge something most of us know is happening.
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:55am
    - kowtow
      
      No this bill is extending undefined Maori culture into law. As such it is an extension of the treaty into legislation so is a constitutional matter.
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:10am
  - VicParking
    
    Sorry KowTow but thats the way politics works in NZ. Can you see the farce parliment would be if there was thirty parties, one for all the main points of view on politics in NZ. You just have to bite the bullet and vote for the one that best meets your views, or not vote at all. I appreciate you point of view but reality is reality.
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:59am
- KevOB
  
  We have tweedle dee and tweedle dum government in NZ. The dees (National) do and the dums (hard labour) are just that. They periodically swap with a long term middling effect. My mother didn’t believe she could trust Labour with money and that governments should get turns occasionally.
  Has MMP messed that all up? If Labour is going to go the US flakey social issues justice way they are doomed. Hopefully we are not going to be all casualties too. The House of Representatives is not the House of Representative Issues. Banging drums is not real banging and does not demonstrate productive ability or Cabinet capability. Snowflakes belong in a garden; they would complement the landscape in the southern Snares, if they could grow there.
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:03am
Left Right and Centre

Let’s play a game of *really ?* . . .

Due to ‘traffic jams’ – some Everest climbers are toast; waiting up to an hour etc extra in the ‘death zone’ to summit and losing toes.

It can literally cost an arm and a leg. Or worse.

*Really ?*
Ten Mill and a clear run wouldn’t get my arse up there – tell ya !!
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May 23, 2017 8:09am
- All_on_Red
  
  Apparently the ‘Hillary Step’ has collapsed, which is going to make ascent a lot harder.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:13am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Apparently it was hiding under a layer of snow, who would have thought at 8,848 metres
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:22am
  - holysheet
    
    You cannot trust that old bitch not to pinch anything not nailed down. She wanted the step for the big porch she is building for bill
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:11am
- Longknives
  
  Seen that film ‘Everest’? It’s well worth the watch-
  Doesn’t hold back with how brutal the Mountain is..
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:58am
Notsofast

This morning Arthur Taylor continues to do the work the police are paid to do, but refuse to, in the Wellington High Court. The witless New Zealand media care so little it is completely unreported.
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May 23, 2017 8:09am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  As it should be, coming from Arthur Taylor.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:20am
- fernglas
  
  What’s he doing?
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:21am
  - Notsofast
    
    He is appealing the decision by Judge John Fogarty to deny lifting name suppression for secret witness C
    in the David Tamihere trial in 1989 before C faces a charge of perjury for what he said in that trial.
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:26am
    - Longknives
      
      Oh Jesus don’t tell me Tamihere is innocent as well?
      Tell me Notsofast- Are there ANY convicted Murderers behind bars in New Zealand who weren’t framed by those evil Coppers?
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:00am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Next thing notsofast will be going in to bat for Clayton Weatherston…
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:08am
      - Kimbo
        
        Yeah he just happened to steal the vehicle the Swedes had rented while, at the same time in another part of the Coromandel they were being brutally murdered by someone else. Like David Bain, whose father seems to have bent over backwards to incriminate him (used David’s rifle, gloves, allegedly washed blood off himself)
        
        …David Tamihere was an unlucky bastard who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when gruesome crimes were being committed. /sarc
        
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        May 23, 2017 9:15am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Unlike Weatherston who is simply misunderstood
        
        Hope the shit rots where he is
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:08am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Well, to be fair, there is a reasonable element of doubt in Tamihere’s involvement in the murder itself.
        
        The original “story” used in court to convict tamihere suffered a serious problem when one of the bodies was discovered a long way from where the “reconstruction” had the crime committed.
        
        Tamihere may well be guilty, he’s got a fairly lengthy record of violent offences and there’s no doubt he had some of the victims possessions, but the original reconstruction of the crime is almost certainly incorrect. Maybe the story has to change, but to imply that Tamihere is definitely guilty overstates what evidence we have.
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:57am
      - Kimbo
        
        The original “story” used in court to convict tamihere suffered a serious problem when one of the bodies was discovered a long way from where the “reconstruction” had the crime committed.
        
        Overlooks that the Crown does not have to give an infallible account of how and when the crime was committed. As with Scott Watson, it only needs to present the evidence, with a possible scenario that best explains it to give context.
        
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        May 23, 2017 11:02am
      - Ed Snack
        
        Kimbo, sure, but if they create a narrative of the crime that ties the various parts of the evidence together and that narrative breaks, maybe the bits of evidence no longer provide such a convincing case.
        
        Like Lundy, the police case about how he drove from Wellington to PN in a basically impossible time means that their narrative is wrong. Lundy may (correction, probably did) still have done it and there are ways to fit it together that differ, but the faults in the original case as presented raise issues that need to be addressed. Taken at face value, the fact that Lundy could NOT have driven as described could lead to him being found not guilty because he is granted an alibi.
        
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        May 23, 2017 12:34pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Taken at face value, the fact that Lundy could NOT have driven as described could lead to him being found not guilty because he is granted an alibi.
        
        No, I think you are falling into the trap of fixating on the provisional scenarios (including timing and location) that the Crown presented in both cases, and ignoring that the Defence in both cases was given ample opportunity to challenge the evidence, whether it was individual items, or how it contributed to the whole. And they also continued to do it via appeal. In Lundy’s case to a second trial (and his appeal was not successful because of the problems of the trip from Porirua to Palmy, as I recall).
        
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        May 23, 2017 12:38pm
      - Notsofast
        
        To Kimbo, incredibly that is the only explanation that fits.
        There is a candidate who is now dead
        Two facts to consider.
        1. There was an attempt to saw off Hoglin’s head with a knife after he was stabbed to death.
        2. Huia George Foley lost an arm in a road rage incident where he drove too close to a truck.
        
        He looked pretty similar to Tamihere and was in the area at the time with no alibi.
        
        David Wayne Tamihere has shown remarkable skills of survival, coherence and sanity alongside egregious offending. Did he do the crime? Completely impossible.
        
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        May 23, 2017 1:22pm
    - Fletch
      
      He is appealing the decision by Judge John Fogarty
      
      I liked his stuff with Creedence.
      
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      May 23, 2017 11:25am
    - howitis
      
      Ed Snack 12.34pm
      
      The NZ police outright lied in court case one and made up such a ridiculous story I am amazed there was a conviction. While I suspect Lundy is about 70-80% likely to be the perp a huge drawback is killing your 7 year old daughter. There are people who have enough rage to want to kill a spouse, but the killing of your own 7 year old daughter goes against primal natural urges. It defies logic.
      
      The cops made up so much crap. They made up the driving at speed in commuter traffic that is jam packed for 30+ km and no one dialed *555. A novel thing then. Useless, but shiny and new.
      Mrs L was in bed at 7pm against all logic.
      Mr L was spotted in drag hundreds of metres from the house.
      Coppies went witness shopping to find someone half way around the world that would verify degraded brain?? tissue.
      Mr L dumped all evidence Except for a blood spattered shirt that supposedly had direct contact. Walt Disney calling.
      
      ESR were compliant in the lies. Maybe they should just concentrate on global warming or some other crap.
      It only takes one lie to be a liar forever.
      
      Why construct this whole fantasy then tell a different story in the second trail? Why not tell that story first time around. At least it approached credibility or plausibility.
      Scenario one under which Lundy was convicted was a complete web of lies. A litany of lies.
      That is contempt. Contempt of court. Contempt for the public. Contempt for justice.
      as we know the NZ cops never back down no matter how wrong they are. Peter Ellis; Teina Pora.
      
      For those who downtick, please tell where I am factually incorrect.
      
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      May 23, 2017 1:07pm
      - Notsofast
        
        You are factually correct in all the above.
        
        There is 100 percent certainty Lundy is innocent.
        There is an appeal slated for the end of October.
        
        Andrew Little will be obliged to deal with the fallout.
        
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        May 23, 2017 1:26pm
Stars And Stripes

Postcard From Vietnam(The Series Concludes)

S&S has always been a strong supporter of the ethnic communities in the local area where he has lived.
Mt Roskill was where I first began to show this support leading a voracious and ultimately successful campaign to banish the last white dairy owner from the suburb followed by an equally successful drive to have the teaching of English in local schools declared optional.
This work has continued apace in my new place of residence with S&S being at the forefront of calls for the wholesale removal of the local population to make way for refugee resettlement in the district so NZ can fulfil it’s obligations to the UN.
Another initiative I am currently promoting in the interim is for the government to have a witch doctor in every local school to deal with new arrivals spiritual and health needs.
With this kind of unwavering support comes regular invitations to attend cultural events and other ethnic related gatherings in a personal capacity and as a guest speaker.
One such invitation arrived a few weeks ago from the local Vietnamese community who were having a function to celebrate the recent marriage of one of their members.
Usually in circumstances like these an appropriate excuse such as being occupied extracting hair out of the shower plug hole would be made to pardon my absence but in this case due to either a temporary lapse of judgement or a more long term descent into madness S&S decided to attend.
Now being the kind of guy who is very conscious of making a cultural faux pas the job of selecting a gift presented a veritable minefield.
Giving a rice cooker could be construed as racist, likewise with a super wok so after a lot of agonising the relatively neutral choice of a mixed box of used lingerie from the opportunity shop was settled upon.
On arrival at the venue first impressions seemed positive as the party was in full swing and I was warmly welcomed which I can only put down to the exquisite choice of gift which I’m sure created a lot of envy amongst the invited guests.
Optimism quickly turned to suspicion however for S&S as it was noted something was slightly amiss with this crowd.
There seemed to be an over representation of old white guys with toupees, gold medallions and Hawaiian shirts.
Equally this was matched by a preponderance of young Vietnamese girls in hot pants, FM boots and makeup so thick even Michael Jackson would have looked out of place.
Not being sure what I had got himself into at this point the decision was made to keep a low profile and stay away from the toilets until it could be clarified exactly what type of party this was.
However very soon after this some reject of a guy called Bill with big side burns, a crooked nose and a very generous waistline approached S&S and struck up a conversation which clarified things.
Bill informed me that all the old guys were married to the Vietnamese girls and then proceeded to ask me in a rather relaxed fashion “Which bit of ass is yours?”.
Caught slightly off guard by the directness of the question I told him I was here unchaperoned where upon he looked at me with mild disdain and said “Best thing I ever did was get one of these girls as they can all just about suck a golf ball through a garden hose”.
Just as S&S was swallowing rather loudly and attempting to visualise exactly what the guy was talking about one of the girls sauntered over and stroked the back of Bill’s neck.
This was “Chau” his wife who by all accounts definitely struck me as someone who was a golf fan and whose favourite club was most likely a wood.
I thought this might be a opportune moment to ask Bill a direct question of my own something along the lines of whether he met Chau on Pornhub or possibly even a more upmarket forum such as a pop up advertisement on Kiwiblog but the call “Dinner is served” interrupted my train of thought.
Normally the mention of food being served at an Asian function would strike fear into the heart of S&S but careful precautions had been undertaken in the preceding weeks involving looking for any unusual spikes in the number of advertisements for missing pets in the local newspaper plus ringing the SPCA to check whether there had been any increase in animal adoptions.
Both methods had turned up no irregularities so with a high degree of confidence S&S grazed the offerings but did take the added precaution of checking for any registration tags round the neck of the cooked beast on display.
After dinner a band started playing and the serious drinking started so needing to make a phone call S&S went out to the carpark.
While talking on the phone I did occasionally notice some movement inside a Pajero parked nearby but did not really take much notice until the back door suddenly opened and out staggered a very drunk Chau followed by another guy doing up his trousers who I recognised as a British guy who helped serve dinner.
Unfortunately at this time Chau also noticed S&S and started to make a move my way calling out in slurred speech “I’m lorny and want to fluck you”.
Well knowing her passion for golf and the fact that Chau had just played in the British Open I decided there was no way she was going to play the US Open with Stars and Stripes as well so I determined it was high time to get the “fluck” out of there which I did in record time.
Now I realise that many readers will be disappointed by this act of extreme cowardice on my part but in my defence all I will say is that I do try at all times to stay focussed on the prescribed task and not get involved in mission creep.
However I am in no doubt that there are a couple of other regulars on this forum who would have had no such reservations about dealing with this problem and would have selflessly taken one for the KB team.
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- krazykiwi
  
  As always S&S, a great yarn 🙂
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:27am
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    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    As always S&S a great big yawn !
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:51am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Gosh, stephieboy has made a pun.
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:33am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Thanks for the feedback Stephieboy and your concerns have been noted.
      Just wondering if you managed to get through the piece on your own or did the lady at the library read it to you?.
      
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      May 23, 2017 10:54am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  ‘no such reservations about dealing with this problem and would have selflessly taken one for the KB team.’
  
  Anyone seen Dime this week?
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:28am
  - waikatogirl
    
    dime was talking about dime flying to Paris with his girlfriend. ?
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:58am
- Longknives
  
  Footage of your Vietnamese adventure has already hit You Tube S&S!
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BlpecFVIq8
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:04am
- Kimbo
  
  @ Stars and Stripes
  
  Thank you for that latest Postcard. Incredible and valuable work that will benefit the social sciences for decades. For the nay-sayers and critics, may I point out that, among the other data-rich insights presented in a readable and enjoyable style, that S&S’s notes from his ethnographic study have falsified forever the incorrect perception foisted on the Western world by Apocalypse Now:
  
  Charlie didn’t get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory.
  
  However, the $64,000 question that the more culturally and critically-astute readers on Kiwiblog would like to know from your time embedded in the Vietnamese community, are you able to confirm:
  
  Charlie Don’t Surf
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:36am
- Rachael Membery
  
  What is it about f.m. boots that scream f..k m.? Not to be taken literally of course.
  Are boots in a different category than clothing? Or are f.m. boots any that a woman can’t run in?
  In the day I could run in stilettos (jusy saying) 😉
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:15am
  - Nostradamus
    
    Rachael:
    
    In the day I could run in stilettos (just saying)
    
    Johnboy will be in shortly to see if you can still run in stilettos. Lucia Maria, sadly, scorned his love interest despite being reputed to have the sexiest black leather boots in town. The phrases “f.m. boots” and “scream f..k m.” tend to attract his attention in a very direct way!
    
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    May 23, 2017 11:28am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      “Love interest”? Perhaps she quite rightly did not confuse ‘sex’ with love. lol
      I am sure that I down ticked Johnboy for sexually harrassing Lucia. Unwelcome attention is unwelcome attention even if virtual and ‘fun’ to one.
      A stiletto on top of the foot can be quite effective also. 😉
      Amazing those women in the movies (especially cop) that keep up with their flat footed male counterparts while wearing heels, they are not saying f..k me, they are saying don’t f..k with me.
      To be fair some black leather boots have more to do with s.m. than f.m. Riding crop slapping against the side, the surrender of control, ball gag in mouth, being ‘taken’ like the simpering bitch that they really are, when really all that they have got is a pocket pussy and dreams of ‘real’ women. For those with callouses I guess.
      
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      May 23, 2017 1:04pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  S&S you are a genius. I’m in utter awe of your ability to paint such hilarious word pictures.
  
  Thank you!
  
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  May 24, 2017 5:32pm
Simon

Just caught up with James Shaw comparing Trump to Hitler. Ha ha ha what a mong.

James Shaw ha ha ha go print some money.
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May 23, 2017 8:14am
tvb

The Labour Party have these quotas for Maori and women but when you see how power is distributed in the Labour Party white middle class men dominate all the portfolio areas where the real power lies. Despite 80 years of support Maori in Labour have never held a Leadership position or a major portfolio such as finance.
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May 23, 2017 8:16am
- sooty
  
  Going to be a maori woman high up in the ranks if labour and the greens get elected. Poor Jacinda, been the bridesmaid.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:39am
Simon

Seth Rich. Don’t think he was killed by the DNC. The Dems are a party of whores. Just like John McCain. Hillary Clinton was brought and paid for.

Whoever paid for the DNC had Rich killed not the actual DNC.
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May 23, 2017 8:18am
- stephieboy
  
  Simon , stop chasing ghosts .
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:52am
zonic

No convinced by our prime minister here.
Alot of ramblings

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/87849/no-reason-change-migration-settings-construction-english-says-defends-inability#comment-921985
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May 23, 2017 8:20am
Hugh Pavletich

THE FOCUS OF URBAN PLANNERS MUST BE ON AFFORDABILITY & MOBILITY

How prepared are urban planners ? …

Self-Driving Vehicles and the Failure to Understand Capitalism | MishTalk

https://mishtalk.com/2017/05/21/self-driving-vehicles-and-the-failure-to-understand-capitalism/

Despite accelerating progress towards fully autonomous cars and trucks, many people still do not accept the obvious fact it’s going to happen soon.

For example, in response to Death Spiral for Car Ownership? End of Fuel-Powered Cars by 2024? one reader suggested it will not happen because of capitalism.

Failure to Understand Capitalism

“People who believe in this utopia do not understand capitalism. We own cars because consumers chose what they wanted and backed that up with their hard earned cash. … read more via hyperlink above …

… What Alain Bertaud, former Principal Planner, The World Bank, had to say within the Introduction to the 2014 10th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey …

2014 10th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

http://www.demographia.com/dhi2014.pdf

… extract …

… Even the Communist Party of China recently declared that resource allocation is best achieved through markets; why can’t urban planners in so-called market economies reach the same conclusions and let markets decide how much land and floor space households and firms will consume in different locations?

It is time for planners to abandon abstract objectives and to focus their efforts on two measurable outcomes that have always mattered since the growth of large cities during the 19th century’s industrial revolution: workers’ spatial mobility and housing affordability.

As a city develops, nothing is more important than maintaining mobility and housing affordability. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 23, 2017 8:39am
- All_on_Red
  
  “Does anyone actually think a Labour-led government would build 30,000 homes in three years. ”
  -David Farrar.
  Hugh Pavletich does!
  Hahahahahha- what a numpty
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:48am
  - stephieboy
    
    All on Red , Hugh and you birds of a feather ..
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:53am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Actually Stephie, you and Hugh are birds of a feather. Both silly trolls who post crap.
      To be fair to you though, (yeah, I know, but it’s early) you aren’t full of your own self importance.
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:57am
  - zonic
    
    I’m not sure Labour can, but I am more sure that National can’t. They have had 9 years. If they get another 3, well I guess the people will get what the people want, whatever that turns out to be…
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:14am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Zonic … 9 years is more than enough.
      
      Its a circus … not a government.
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:58am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        So right Hugh!
        
        How dare they make NZ a prosperous nation where people want to live!! We need Labour to fix that.
        
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        May 23, 2017 12:56pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Aw … they made New Zealand …
        
        The likes of Nick Smith … really ?
        
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        May 23, 2017 8:38pm
- cmm
  
  In the 1960s and 1970s we KNEW, with absolute certainty, that thee would be flying cars long before 2000.
  
  Urban planners were pushing for skyscraper cities with no roads surrounded on all sides by parks.
  
  Imagine how stuffed we’d be if we had listened to them.
  
  So why should we listen to this lot?
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:24am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    cmm … check out the Ton Tom research.
    
    Remarkably NZ scores the worst in the developed world.
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:40pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  With interest costs rising faster than rents and capital gains turning negative, many Auckland property investors will be facing some tough choices | interest.co.nz
  
  https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87858/interest-costs-rising-faster-rents-and-capital-gains-turning-negative-many-auckland
  
  By Greg Ninness
  
  It could be crunch time for many Auckland landlords, with the costs of rising mortgage interest rates likely to be greater than the extra income they are getting from rising rental income.
  
  The problem is likely to be particularly acute for property investors who borrowed heavily and were prepared to accept very low or even negative cash returns as they chased capital gains in a market where interest rates were at record lows and prices were rising strongly.
  
  But that situation has now reversed. Auckland property prices are slowly declining and mortgage interest rates are rising, a situation that could force some landlords to sell as they face a cash crunch. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
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  May 23, 2017 11:49am
Hugh Pavletich

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
9 YEARS OF NATIONAL-LED GOVERNMENT FAILURE IS MRE THAN ENOUGH ! …

Pavletich comment on Kiwiblog (National Party supporters) thread … note too … the extensive further comments above and below …

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/05/general_debate_22_may_2017.html/comment-page-1#comment-1934452

Hugh Pavletich

SAMPLE …NATIONALS SORRY & SORDID HOUSING HISTORY …

Just some of what I wrote late 2008 and early 2009 … and too … what then new Housing Minister Heatley said early 2009 …

7 October 2008 … Gosh the Labour people really hated me then ! …

“Kiwis Pay Price For ‘Cullen Housing Bubble’” … Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0810/S00090/kiwis-pay-price-for-cullen-housing-bubble.htm

30 January 2009 …

NZ Government Housing Commitment Applauded … Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0901/S00331/nz-government-housing-commitment-applauded.htm

20 March 2009 …

New Zealands Pragmatic Political Approach Welcome … Scoop News

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0903/S00467/new-zealands-pragmatic-political-approach-welcome.htm

At the time of the release of the 2009 5th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey, (as usual) late January of that year … then new Housing Minister Phil Heatley had this to say …

beehive.govt.nz – Bringing better balance to the housing market

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/bringing-better-balance-housing-market

Again … go back to the famous 5 IMPORTANT GRAPHS on my archival website http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org … and ask yourselves the question … why after near 9 years has this Government failed to deliver ?

If they can’t / wont … the only option of course is for a new Labour Government to do the job.

Labour in any event is the political party of reform in this country.

I think it would be fair to say the National Party is the place for political eunuchs.

Sad … but true.
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May 23, 2017 8:52am
- All_on_Red
  
  So Hugh, how are Labour going to build ‘Townhouses, houses and apartments for $500,000’?
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:53am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    They can build them AoR, but you’d have to be a Hobbit to live in one.
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:15am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Yep.
      $500,000 divided by $14,000 per sq metre = a 36 sq metre apartment.
      Labour is going to build shoebox apartments!
      Which no Bank will finance.
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:27am
      - Paulus
        
        And no builder will build as there would be no profit, so why do it.
        Buy ready made from China shipped in containers.
        
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        May 23, 2017 11:16am
      - RF
        
        Sounds like the size of a hall that Angrys followers meet in. Shoe box.
        
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        May 23, 2017 11:50am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    Really easy, we the tax payer will subsidise it as per usual, some low lifes will buy them and trash them and then flog them offshore for big bucks.
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:27am
  - KevinH
    
    The land component including development levies are the stumbling block to achieving supply of low cost affordable housing.
    To offset this a Labour led government would have to supply the land preferrably land that already has existing infrastructure such as state houses due for redevelopment i.e. knock them down and rebuild.
    The land would be offerred as leasehold land with long term leases at a modest ground rental with the option of freeholding.
    The homes would be of a standardised three/ four bedroom layout, perhaps less than a half of a dozen designs and modest in design. They are a starter house for young families that could be onsold but with caveats on price.
    It is not impossible to achieve but will involve a government organisation such as Housing New Zealand taking on a much more increased role in housing New Zealanders with a PPP finance package.
    
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    May 23, 2017 12:18pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “Labour in any event is the political party of reform in this country.”
  
  So Hugh, you are a jokester as well as being a terminally boring fuck.
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:05am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Labour is the party that, after its last two terms, has left the economy in recession.
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:06am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Capt Mainwaring … Why are you and others constantly defending Government failure ? …
      
      I have been pleading with our Tory comrades for years for the required political leadership with the broad housing consensus out there … NEW ZEALAND’S HOUSING CONSENSUS: WHERE IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP …
      
      http://pc.blogspot.co.nz/2017/01/auckland-worlds-fourth-hardest-to-buy.html
      
      … and please note what Bernard Hickey reported recently as well …
      
      https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/1629-newsroom-pro-s-8-things-at-8-trolling-millennials-is-easy-defamation-retrials-loom
      
      7. Just in case you missed it…
      
      One curious coda to the RMA debate that concluded last week was that the Opposition parties plus ACT and United Future all voted again during the third reading debate for amendments that would have abolished Rural Urban Growth Boundaries and allowed the financing of infrastructure bonds paid for with targeted rates.
      
      The amendments were defeated by National and the Maori Party.
      
      The irony of a Government that has railed against restrictions on land development by councils voting against removing those restrictions should be noted. And also that the proposal for infrastructure bonds was backed by the right-leaning New Zealand Initiative and voted for by the Greens and Labour. Strange times indeed.
      
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      May 23, 2017 9:39am
      - hmmokrightitis
        
        Hay-sus, your posts are bad enough but now quoting the self-proclaimed market guru, Hickey as well?
        
        Hickey has zero credibility. Im still awaiting the 40% Auckland market value plunge he swore blind was going to happen…6 years ago. The man is a master at self-promotion, and not much else.
        
        I wonder, who does that remind me of?
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:03am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        hm ,,, The comments regarding Bernard Hickey are too harsh. In this case he was simply reporting … not opining.
        
        I use to have some great rumbles with him on Interest Co, but he was always a very civil adversary.
        
        There is actually a very big story here … and what Bernard has touched on above is very much only part of it.
        
        The political parties coming together on this stuff goes back to early Sept 2016 with the HASHA extension legislation … and what happened recently with the RMA amendment legislation was a build up of the former, with ACT and Dunne coming on board as well … all supporting abolition of urban limits and the bond financing of infrastructure.
        
        A great credit to all involved on the political management front.
        
        I do hope some enterprising journalist gets to meet with Phil Twyford and David Parker in particular to discuss these issues.
        
        These are actually very significant political developments.
        
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        May 23, 2017 11:20am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Capt’n Capt’n where are you so early in the day when we need your wisdom words of sense to curb Hugh’s enthusiasm!
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:07am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    See my 9:05 above.
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:10am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Behind paywall …
    
    This is looking ominous …
    
    S&P downgrade greeted with stunned silence as borrowing costs jump – MacroBusiness
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/sp-downgrade-greeted-stunned-silence/
    
    In the past, whenever any international body has questioned Australia’s shiny bubble it has been greeted with great howls of protest and scorn from all corners. Yesterday and today we saw S&P downgrade Australia’s entire financial system, indeed country via the BICRA score (if not yet sovereign): … read more via hyperlink above …
    
    Future Fundie warns Aussie bubble as disastrous as Ireland, US – MacroBusiness
    
    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/05/future-fundie-warns-aussie-bubble-disastrous-ireland-us/
    
    … behind paywall … extract …
    
    … The fund’s senior researchers Matthew Wilson and Craig Shephard found that about half of all the nation’s mortgage debt was in the hands of borrowers whose debt was more than four times larger than their gross income.
    
    The same borrowers had paid off less than half of their loans, the team found, based on data from several official and private sector sources that adjusted for changes in incomes and the collateral values of their homes.
    
    The average loan-to-income ratio of these heavily indebted households was 6.4, or more than double the old banking “rule of thumb” that mortgage managers didn’t lend more than three times a household’s income “unless they were doctors”.
    
    …Almost a third of the most highly geared borrowers were professionals with pre-tax incomes of more than $250,000. While they accounted for just 2 per cent of total households, they held 17 per cent of mortgage debt, and an average mortgage worth $1.6 million. Half of these borrowers had an investment property loan.
    
    Other young households – dubbed “pretenders” because they had taken on large debts relative to their incomes – were also at risk. This group tended to have average incomes of $110,000 but an average mortgage that was an “eye-watering” 7.4 times larger at $840,000.
    
    The last group, young families, were slightly better placed with average incomes of $80,000 and average mortgages of $420,000. … read more via hyperlink above ….
    
    … WELL WORTH WATCHING THIS VID OF THE IRISH EXPERIENCE …
    
    Prof Bill Black & others discuss the Irish financial system performancve … Youtube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7zd5dRILBw
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:10am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Scroll down this Dr. Who-scarf-of-a-post, and it’s black text/blue link/black text/blue link/black text/blue link/black text…
  It just goes on and on…
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:20am
- MrTips
  
  Hugh. Let’s build them at Station Peak or Fettercairn shall we? How about up the Haka run? What would Jack say to that?
  
  For goodness sake, get a grip.
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:29am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Sorry … we are not discussing cows.
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:13am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Nah, more like your bullshit.
      
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      May 23, 2017 10:24am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Stephieboy … thank you.
        
        They are certainly extremely irrational and nasty as the ship is sinking.
        
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        May 23, 2017 11:32am
    - stephieboy
      
      Hugh Pavletich , a reminder you’re dealing with a chronic know it all and Professor of Everything .
      
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      May 23, 2017 10:35am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Says the Sickness Beneficiary who comments on everyone’s posts…
        I know enough about Property and Finance to know Labour and Hugh are full of crap. I suspect so do many others here.
        
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        May 23, 2017 10:45am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Stephieboy … Thanks to the gross incompetence of this Government, remarkably, housing is the number one issue in the polls.
        
        They had 9 long years to sort out the issue !
        
        Clearly they are going to get punished for this failure on 23 September … and deservedly so.
        
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        May 23, 2017 5:42pm
waikatogirl

It is well known the gangs supply meth to those who are stupid enough to partake. Apparently the gangs meth labs are producing larger quantities than ever before, and the cost has dropped significantly so it is now cheaper to purchase. Meanwhile the gangs are calling for help to get their whanau off meth.

Anyone else see the irony of demanding taxpayer funding to fix (only their whanau) the problem they are causing.
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- fernglas
  
  It’s not just the gangs. There is also a heap of meth imported, as well as the precursor chemicals, and that is largely sourced in China through people who have better contacts than the gangs. To give an indication of the scale of the problem;
  
  “More than 400kg of methamphetamine was seized by New Zealand Customs in 2016, which the agency says was 20 times the amount grabbed three years earlier.
  
  It’s on top of 1.1 tonnes of meth ingredients Customs also seized last year, which could have made 809kg of the drug.”
  
  Customs usually says they only catch about 10% of the imports (although that is pure guesswork) but if they are right, that means 3600 kg of finished product came in, with raw material for another 8000kg.
  
  So, 11600 kg of meth which the Police would give a retail street value of $11.6 billion dollars; $2500 dollars worth for every man, woman and child in the country. The problem is immense, under recognised and under resourced.
  
  There is hypocrisy in the gangs, for sure, but there is a lack of recognition of the problem in Government circles which also borders on negligence. All that fuss over a bit of medicinal cannabis, when the real evil is here and almost untouched.
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:14am
  - cmm
    
    Are those street values real or do the cops use inflated numbers to make things look impressive?
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:30am
    - fernglas
      
      They are probably a bit on the high side; I personally have no idea what a point (tenth of a gram) bag of meth costs on the street, but a recent study put the price at $681 per gram; if a gram is divvied up into point bags you would expect $100 per point bag or $1million per kilo retail to be within reach. If you would like it another way, a tenth of a gram is the smallest quantity usually sold on the street. That would suggest that it is at least a usable quantity. The amount I have mentioned above is enough for 116,000,000 of those bags. Is that impressive enough for you?
      
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      May 23, 2017 11:00am
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    Totally agree fernglas. There appears to be an epidemic of ostrich behaviour amongst those who could have done something to curb the meth problem years ago. Or is it just in the too hard basket? How do you stop idiots from using the evil stuff. The problem is only going to get worse.
    
    Meanwhile the rest of us taxpayers are asked to pay more and more toward cleaning up the mess of those who don’t have the brains or willpower not to use this crap. A sense of frustration does not cover how pissed off I am at the stupidity of some! And now the gangs are asking for taxpayer money to stop their own whanau supplying drugs to the rest of the whanau! ?
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:58am
    - fernglas
      
      Meth, like all drugs, is a fashionable thing. In the US, heroin usage dropped off drastically in the 80’s because kids were rebelling against their junkie parents. I personally favour a combination of strong border controls, eye-watering penalties for importers and high level distributors and the Portuguese approach to users; treatment rather than punishment. That doesn’t preclude intervention and sensible social leadership by whomever wishes to provide it.
      
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      May 23, 2017 11:04am
      - waikatogirl
        
        How much of the taxable amount on illicit money made by importing, cooking of drugs, selling of drugs does IRD collect? Probably very little as drug kings are not likely to furnish IRD with a tax return on their criminal activities.
        
        It seems there is very little going on to curb gangs and their illegal activities. After all the authorities have only had something over 40 years to do SOMETHING.
        
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        May 23, 2017 11:51am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It’s a wonderful perpetual make money cycle.
  
  How long before the poor tax-payer is pedalling furiously, keeping this cycle on the road?
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:31am
Monique Watson

Happy Mother’ Day. Yeah Right!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11860997

Totally unrelated of course, I learned recently from a junkie how to make a pipe bomb. Trick is to use a toothbrush to clean the excess gunpowder off the thread of the ends of the steel pipe. In case it sparks, you know.

And no, Labour is blowing wind out their red arse if they think they can build the 30,000 houses in thirty years let alone whatever their unrealistic target is.
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May 23, 2017 9:00am
Monique Watson

I can’t get a quote for less than $600,000 to build, wherever I’m looking at. $750,0000 for steep shitty land that I’ve already subdivided and serviced. And a lot of land that will have to be built on around the towns and cities in NZ to not swallow up valuable Ag land and to get the urban planning right is steep shitty land.
Ta ta, have work to do.
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May 23, 2017 9:05am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Average auckland building costs have gone up about 40% since 2013, roughly $2500/m² now. Mostly additional regulatory costs. As a result there are almost no profitably subdividable urban properties any more. Steep section is going to add a huge compliance overhead.
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:41am
Longknives

The ‘Find a Russian Wife’ ads on my Kiwiblog have lately been replaced by some weird site asking me if I want to date a hairy,leather-wearing ‘Metalhead’ fella!

C’mon David- I listen to Judas Priest and all but that’s really not my scene…
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May 23, 2017 9:09am
Captain Mainwaring

What’s this crap from Paula about tipping?
Are National trying to lose the election by stealth?
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May 23, 2017 9:11am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I think they are eyeing up the exit without any pretense of stealth, just hubris with a thin veneer of arrogance in taking their support for granted
  
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  May 23, 2017 9:39am
- marcw
  
  Maybe Paula is just setting herself up for her new employment after September.
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:03am
- Paulus
  
  Wants to increase the Black economy more.
  But small problem – example my wife presented a $20 note in a shop yesterday and they said they no longer do cash !
  EFTPOS or CC.
  I virtually carry no cash except for parking which is going to card when they get it sorted.
  I accept if you dine at a “top” Auckland restaurant you would be attracted by superb service which you expect, so a 10% gratuity is by no means out of the question.
  I cannot see my Asian restaurant expecting anything.
  It is a matter of degree, but in principle I rellies from overseas visitors and specifically rellies from the USA – WE DO NOT TIP, but if it makes them feel big so be it.
  
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  May 23, 2017 11:26am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Cash is legal tender, isn’t it illegal to refuse to take it as payment?
    
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    May 23, 2017 11:53am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      Isn’t it illegal to accept cash for services especially if it is untaxed?
      
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      May 23, 2017 1:13pm
    - Paulus
      
      Illegal or not they would not take cash !
      I was there and argued but !!!!!!!!
      
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      May 23, 2017 2:10pm
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        lol I meant tipping in lieu of wages.
        
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        May 23, 2017 4:55pm
GazzaW

What a flip flop from Andy this morning. Public-private partnerships are quite acceptable to Labour now. What a quantum change from their violent opposition to the sale of 49% of Meridian and MRP and the threat to renationalise should Labour regain power. Selling off the family silver, flogging off the people’s assets – we all remember the wild rhetoric. The harsh realities of funding their wild pre-election promises have obviously come home. Oh, the hypocrisy.

To put it in your own words Andy. “It’s time to cut the crap.”
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May 23, 2017 9:22am
MrTips

Dear Fairfax and NZME

Please, I do not care for the Slater/Craig trial.
It will be a non-event, Justice Toogood will get an ulcer or Tourette’s.

And the nation just does not want to know that much about it.

Please stop the headlines.

Please.
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May 23, 2017 9:32am
MCos

I wonder if the Queen will get one of those orb things for Donald Trump’s state visit?
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May 23, 2017 9:40am
Manolo

Sweden, former Nordic paradise:
https://www.rt.com/news/389260-sweden-explosives-landvetter-airport-report/

A Swedish airport has been evacuated after a bag found at the facility showed indications it contained explosives, according to local media reports.

Gothenberg-Landvetter Airport, just outside the southern Swedish city of Gothenberg, has been evacuated as police investigate the suspicious package.
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May 23, 2017 9:41am
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo ,
  
  NZ , former Southern paradise ,
  
  “Man arrested after bomb squad call-out”
  
  A 44-year-old man has been arrested after a suspicious package was found at the Wellington Central Police Station, prompting a major evacuation.
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/326585/man-arrested-after-bomb-squad-call-out
  
  Sigh ..
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:06am
Jack5

John Drinnan, in the Hooerald today, is interesting on funding for Radio NZ and on likely changes in the print media.

Drinnan speculates that the freeze on Radio NZ funding will end in The Budget, and among print changes he looks at it the possibility of an Otago Daily Times takeover from Fairfucked NZ of the Southland Times.

Worth noting also are National’s buy-off of the Maori Party with big cash for Maori radio, and advertising-free Radio NZ’s gains on non-State radio.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/best-of-business-analysis/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501241&objectid=11858661
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May 23, 2017 10:05am
stephieboy

Donald Trump drops phrase ‘radical Islamic terrorism’ on Saudi Arabia trip to soften tone on Muslims

“ President refrains from reviving important catchphrase from campaign trail in Riyadh address on global threat posed by extremism”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-saudi-arabia-radical-islamic-terrorism-muslims-soften-tone-iran-palestinians-israel-a7748541.html

Maybe the trip is bringing the President a much needed much more saner perspective on the world and reality .

Won’t naturally hold my breath when he gets back home .
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May 23, 2017 10:10am
- Inandout
  
  Why should he hold back? We all know Islamists tend to be terrorists.
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:23am
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    Inandout , ” tend to be ..” ???
    
    Like our Muslim community ?
    
    A bit of al right derangement sydrome there I believe
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:33am
Inandout

Explosion at a UK concert’

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/manchester-arena-explosions-two-loud-10478734
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May 23, 2017 10:16am
- stephieboy
  
  “ Manchester ‘explosions’: Police warn people to stay away from arena after loud bangs heard at Ariana Grande concert”
  
  Confusion over what caused reported ‘explosion sounds’ at the venue as people ‘seen ‘fleeing in tears’
  
  “….Majid Khan, 22, said: “I and my sister, along with a lot of others were seeing Ariana Grande perform at Manchester Arena, and we were all exiting the venue when around 10.40-10,45pm-ish, a huge bomb-like bang went off that hugely panicked everyone and we were all trying to flee the arena.
  
  “It was one bang and essentially everyone from the other side of the arena where the bang was heard from suddenly came running towards us as they were trying to exit Trinity Way and that was blocked so everyone was just running to any exit they could find as quickly as they could.
  
  “Everyone was in a huge state of panic, calling each other as some had gone to the toilet whilst this had gone off, so it was just extremely disturbing for everyone there.”
  
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-explosions-latest-news-updates-arena-ariana-grande-bangs-police-a7750381.html
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:40am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Have you come over all tingly?
    
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    May 23, 2017 11:00am
  - waikatosinger
    
    An unfortunate name – the “dangerous woman” tour.
    
    If this is an attack then it has to be the vilest choice of targets I can imagine. We are talking about a stadium mostly full of teenage girls carrying pink balloons. You’d have to be seriously sick and evil to want to attack that.
    
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    May 23, 2017 11:50am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Right up those arseholes alley, at least the IRA had the ‘decency’ to call in a warning before blowing the legs and other parts off the assembled masses.
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:27pm
- rangitoto
  
  Suspected suicide bomber from the religion of peace.
  
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  May 23, 2017 1:11pm
zonic

I love this site for its non-biased debate. Or more so, the way that anything said that is negative of National is downvoted by the majority for that reason alone.

Be interested to see how many downticks I get, because is this not a fact?
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May 23, 2017 10:36am
- Inandout
  
  The Standard is calling for your return.
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:38am
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    the other extreme is it? tks will head over there for a look.
    
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    May 23, 2017 10:52am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Bleach your mind if you come back
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:28pm
- Longknives
  
  You only get ‘Downticked’ here mate.
  Over at the Standard if you say anything ‘Pro-National’ it’s a Ban!
  
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  May 23, 2017 1:02pm
- rangitoto
  
  You have the right to say negative things but it doesn’t mean people won’t disagree with you.
  
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  May 23, 2017 1:18pm
stephieboy

From TM ,

“What a great guy !

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/hes-been-neutered-trump-supp
orters-melt-down-after-president-calls-islam-one-of-worlds-g
reat-faiths/

As President Donald Trump is getting hammered on the left for not using the expression “radical Islamic terrorism” during his speech in Saudi Arabia, he is also taking heat from his avid supporters who were drawn to him due to his anti-Mulsim rhetoric when he is in the U.S.

His crime?

Calling Islam “one of the world’s great faiths.”

That double hit — ducking “Islamic terrorism” while praising the religion — was not received very well on Twitter.”
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May 23, 2017 10:43am
- Inandout
  
  I wouldn’t start masturbating yet stephie. He still has Israel to visit.
  
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  May 23, 2017 10:55am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I thought we had covered homonyms yesterday.
  
  You need to learn the different meanings great can take.
  
  Did Trump use great faith to mean great in extent or great in quality?
  
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  May 23, 2017 2:57pm
Chuck Bird

Tourists need to be advised of NZ bush and mountains as well as the roads. They should be told never to go in the bush alone. They should also be told to be properly equipped. Mt Karioi is extremely rugged.

Lost tourist rescued from Mt Karioi after 10-hour ordeal

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92867421/lost-tourist-rescued-from-mt-karioi-after-six-hour-search
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May 23, 2017 10:53am
krazykiwi

Police confirm ‘there are a number of fatalities’ after reports of explosion in Manchester

♦ Reports of ‘explosions’ at Manchester Arena
♦ Police: ‘There are a number of confirmed fatalities’
♦ Police ‘responding to serious incident’
♦ Police warn people to stay away from area
♦ Emergency services rush to scene
♦ Panic as concert-goers flee the arena
♦ Ariana Grande was performing at Manchester Arena
♦ Singer ‘Okay’ following the incident
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May 23, 2017 11:00am
- Inandout
  
  The stadium is next door to an immigrant area. Looks like terrorist.
  
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  May 23, 2017 11:19am
  - Fletch
    
    Mhmm. But keeping immigrants out, even for three weeks, is racist or something. That’s the leftie sentiment in the U.S and probably the U.K as well.
    
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    May 23, 2017 11:34am
  - krazykiwi
    
    An eyewitness reported there there were two blasts. Bomb disposal team there now looking for more devices. Tragic.
    
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    May 23, 2017 11:46am
- krazykiwi
  
  They used Nail bombs, at a kids concert
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:03pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  Watching BBC having just arrived home. They are now talking about multiple deaths, and the “possibility” of this being a terrorist attack.
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:06pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The bomb or bombs went off as people were leaving the 21,000 capacity arena. They have just interviewed a survivor who was knocked off his feet by the force of the explosion; horrific stuff.
    
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    May 23, 2017 12:08pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      If there is a positive side to this horrific event, it might be a reversal in the recent drop in poll support for the Conservatives.
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:20pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Oldham hospital (nearby) in lockdown after a gunman fires shots, just moments after stadium explosion
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:11pm
Shaun the Sheep

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/may/22/manchester-arena-ariana-grande-concert-explosion-england

That Lone Wolf is at it again?
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May 23, 2017 11:39am
- stephieboy
  
  ‘He’s been neutered’: Trump supporters melt down after president calls Islam ‘one of world’s great faiths’
  
  http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/hes-been-neutered-trump-supporters-melt-down-after-president-calls-islam-one-of-worlds-great-faiths/
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:17pm
- David Garrett
  
  Godwin alert:
  
  How many attacks will it take before Western Europe wakes up to the ongoing threat Islam poses to its very survival?
  
  Back in the ’30’s the Brits eventually woke up to the threat of fascism…but it was very nearly too late…as anyone who knows their WW II history knows…
  
  As far as the threat of Islam goes, it seems to me Britain is now about where she was in 1934 – vaguely uneasy, but where the warnings are still being dismissed as overreactions at best, and the product of hysteria at worst…after all he had got Germany back on its feet hadn’t he? The people were back in work…government was functioning…a successful Olympic games were soon to be staged…
  
  In 1934 – and as late as 1937 – Members of the British Smart Set were still visiting Germany and reporting positively on what they had seen…Today, useful idiots fulfill that role, telling us these outrages are “lone wolf madmen” or “not representative of Islam as a whole”…
  
  When will they wake up? Will we wake up in time to stop the same thing happening here?
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:18pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    David Garrett , how can the 200 Syrian refugees living in Dunedin be held responsible for the latest bombing outrage, pray tell me ?
    
    Another deluded rant reminiscent of your desire to nuke the Middle East to solve the “final solution to the Muslim question “
    
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    May 23, 2017 12:23pm
    - Manolo
      
      The idea is not without merit! 😀
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:31pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Manolo, there you are deluded as ever with a dash of vile nastiness .
        
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        May 23, 2017 1:19pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      We only need one of those muslims to visit the local truck dealership and it’s all over
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:32pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      stephieboy,
      
      Have you any idea of what the British are capable of when pushed beyond their limits?
      
      The sea in which the terrorists swim ought to fear the wrath of patient gentlemen.
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:44pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      final solution to the Muslim question
      
      Quite a bit of Mosque-ready land on the Falkland islands. Expel some of the more radical Islamists there, add a nice bow, and gift it, lock & stock, to the Argies 🙂
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:47pm
    - Longknives
      
      “how can the 200 Syrian refugees living in Dunedin be held responsible…”
      
      Only 200?? Considering they breed like dirty flies and each one of them seemingly has a right to bring another dozen or so ‘close family members’ into the Country no questions asked- Wouldn’t there be a couple of thousand of them by now?
      Serious Bad News.
      And only a matter of time before it happens here..
      *My heart goes out to those poor kids in Manchester who went out to a Concert and never came home.
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:52pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Longkives , a vile and disgusting comment that takes you back to the Nazi years and their treatment of Jews
        
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        May 23, 2017 1:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        Stephie X tries to Godwin the debate by bringing in Nazidom.
        
        Not working, Stephie!
        
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        May 23, 2017 1:54pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    It is going to be interesting to see May’s response to this. I expect decisive, stern words. Mention of solidarity and commitment to the principles of freedom and tolerance. But not much more.
    
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    May 23, 2017 12:44pm
    - stephieboy
      
      krazykiwi, Theresa May unlike you is a sane person who will not call for the elimination of Islam
      
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      May 23, 2017 12:49pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        You have three options:
        1. Point to where I did that
        2. Retract and apologise
        3. Obfuscate or be silent – either confirming that you’re liar
        
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        May 23, 2017 12:55pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        The ball’s in your court Stephieboy…
        
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        May 23, 2017 1:04pm
      - waikatosinger
        
        Well why the hell not. Why not call for the elimination of Islam. Let’s knock down the mosques, ban the Koran, and close all the Islamic schools. Why not. It can’t be any worse than having teenage girls blown up with nailbombs. Teenage bloody girls with pink bloody balloons for Christ sake. That is just sick.
        
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        May 23, 2017 2:01pm
Manolo

Chancellor Merkel’s gift to Germany:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4530132/Rape-charge-Germany-Ghanaian-faced-deportation.html

A Ghanaian asylum seeker has been charged with raping a woman at knifepoint in front of her horrified boyfriend days after learning he was going to be deported from Germany.
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May 23, 2017 11:59am
- Inandout
  
  That animal would have been sheltered from Immigration by well wishers, had this happened in a US ‘sanctuary city’.
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:10pm
  - nasska
    
    When it happens in NZ that animal(s) will be sheltered by:
    
    1) The incompetent Minister of Immigration.
    
    2) His treacherous Department employees.
    
    3) Our weak crim cuddling judiciary.
    
    4) Bleeding hearts who will tell us it’s our fault for not being nicer to the refugees/invaders.
    
    Kick out the garbage……and now!
    
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    May 23, 2017 1:09pm
- holysheet
  
  “It was a sexual emergency your honor” didn’t work then?
  
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  May 23, 2017 12:18pm
big bruv

I’m really not sure what sickens me more, the fact that another rag head has decided to murder innocent people in the name of their stupid religion, or, the bullshit that has already started from the liberal elite about this being a ‘lone wolf’ and about Islam being a ‘religion of peace’.
Please liberals, no more love hearts with your hands pointing at the sky, no more lies about Islam being peaceful. We are at war with an ideology that hates us and wants to destroy us. It is about fucking time we started fighting back.
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May 23, 2017 12:46pm
- stephieboy
  
  bigbruv,
  
  “We are at war…”
  
  Whose we exactly ?
  
  Who and how will so and so fight back ?
  
  Prepared for once to get off your keyboards and do something ?
  
  Nothing will change . Mark my words .
  
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  May 23, 2017 2:41pm
- starboard
  
  Renditions of kumbaya would be a good start..that’ll learn ’em..fix ’em good
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:26pm
Inandout

I would expect a Yousoof Cat Stevens concert to be a pretty safe venue.
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May 23, 2017 12:49pm
- Lance
  
  Not necessarily
  Moderate Muslims are murdered by fanatics. In fact they tend to hate them even more
  
  Because they are twisted fucks
  
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  May 23, 2017 1:12pm
- stephieboy
  
  Inandout , and for you to have a piddle in protest at the ticket gate ?
  
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  May 23, 2017 1:15pm
  - Inandout
    
    He has arranged another concert for those faithful who couldn’t make his other shows. Still another chance stephie to see him.
    
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    May 23, 2017 2:19pm
- Longknives
  
  “I would expect a Yousoof Cat Stevens concert to be a pretty safe venue”
  
  Unless you are Salman Rushdie- Who Cat Stevens has said “must die”..
  *Cat Stevens was a Great Songwriter, But is an absolute piece of shit of a Human Being…
  
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  May 23, 2017 7:04pm
Manolo

The price of importing scum. 2017 Paris:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4529372/The-no-zone-women-PARIS.html

Women in Paris are too frightened to enter so-called ‘no go zones’ where migrants and drug dealers have been harassing women, it has been reported.

The troubled district of Chapelle-Pajol, in the east of the French capital, is said to have become more and more dangerous for women over the past year as young African and Arab men flood the area.

An 80-year-old woman from the district claimed she was sexually assaulted walking home one night while another, 38, said the cafe below her apartment has become an exclusively male venue.
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May 23, 2017 12:52pm
- Longknives
  
  The price of importing scum- Part 2
  
  http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2017/05/covert-footage-captures-14yo-girl-marrying-34yo-man-at-australian-mosque.html
  
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  May 23, 2017 1:23pm
  - Manolo
    
    It’s all good in the name of cultural diversity, shouts our bleeding-heart Muslim apologist.
    
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    May 23, 2017 1:37pm
  - Inandout
    
    Before the Aussie law change there were cases of under 10 yr olds marrying filthy old Muslims. What a disgusting bloody cult that these ‘marriages’ can happen at the back of the mosque. What other things go on in those buildings?
    
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    May 23, 2017 2:32pm
  - cha
    
    Shoulda tied the knot in the good óle US of A.
    
    We learned that in 38 states, more than 167,000 children — almost all of them girls, some as young 12 — were married during that period, mostly to men 18 or older. Twelve states and the District of Columbia were unable to provide information on how many children had married there in that decade. Based on the correlation we identified between state population and child marriage, we estimated that the total number of children wed in America between 2000 and 2010 was nearly 248,000.
    
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/10/why-does-the-united-states-still-let-12-year-old-girls-get-married/
    
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    May 23, 2017 6:08pm
    - starboard
      
      some ” as young as 12 “. Maybe 1 or 2 ?
      The remainder 16 plus probably so nothing to see here.
      With muslim 9 yrs seems to be the magic number. What filth. What sub human low life.
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:22pm
Manolo

A rat is removed by fellow rats:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/22/italian-mafia-killed-sicily-cosa-nostra

A mafia boss has been gunned down while riding his bicycle in Sicily, in what appeared to have been the sort of mob killing that has become rarer in recent years as dangerous figures have been locked up.

Giuseppe Dainotti, 67, was shot in the head as he cycled along a street in Palermo, almost 25 years to the day since anti-Mafia magistrate Giovanni Falcone was killed in a bomb blast on a motorway on the Italian island.
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May 23, 2017 2:16pm
- kowtow
  
  Da prick shudda beena wearing a helmet!
  
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  May 23, 2017 5:03pm
Inandout

Sounds like the Manchester bomber was a suicider.
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May 23, 2017 2:34pm
Happychappy

For all the people on here that think Bill English is a Weak Leader his three opponents today in Question time got a lesson at have your facts and know the rules of Parliament. He started with Peters then Little and finished with Shaw and not one of them made headway with their Questions.Winston tried to pin the blame on English for the Harrison fraud and whistle blowers beig dismissed and came up short, Little got a lesson about the housing Crisis when giving English the chance to reply with how can Labour build houses with no money or land especially 100,000 and how can you criticize National when Labour are opposing two housing areas that could accomadate thousands of houses, and then came Shaw trying to play with figures and policy that he was a part of when it was agreed to in Paris. Then to have Sweet Cheeks try to make out what a brilliant Finance Minister he would be for the coalition from hell wave his wand of unlikely facts and blatently lies in his assumptions it shows why these idiots should never get near our Treasury Bench.
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May 23, 2017 5:18pm
- wiseowl
  
  English is just a smart arse at evading the question.
  Frankly question time has become a joke and the most sickening part is the patsy questions that are asked and National members that chuckle away thinking they are very clever.
  It is the worst bunch of MP’s that have ever been in the house.
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:05pm
  - Happychappy
    
    You obviously don’t take notice of what Andrew Little and Winston Peter’s say then and if you can show what English was evading please explain and for National MP’s being smart arse maybe you are deaf when Peter’s and Little decide to throw their own shit at the start of the Questions they ask. Take your blinkers off and make sure your hearing aid is turned on next time you decide to Listen.
    
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    May 23, 2017 9:46pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 2009, Ladyhawke and My Delirium:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg
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May 23, 2017 5:40pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Classy gal, and classy track
  
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  May 23, 2017 5:45pm
- Fletch
  
  That doco on Dragon is on Prime tonight. I might have to give it a watch. Looks like a repeat tho. I may have seen it.
  
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  May 23, 2017 7:53pm
starboard

“”Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari””

Must be deported. Convicted child molester /kiddy fiddler and imported muslim Akbari must be removed NOW ! Why is he still here. He cant speak ANY english. He cannot control his sexual urges, he molests children. What benefit does this scumbag bring to NZ ?
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May 23, 2017 5:42pm
- dad4justice
  
  “”Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari”” should be fed to the pigs asap.
  
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  May 23, 2017 5:52pm
- nasska
  
  From what I’ve read, apparently his presence helps us to personify how it is a good thing that ministers can’t exercise the control of their departments that we vote in governments for.
  
  Or something like that.
  
  Get rid of the useless bastard & do it now!
  
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  May 23, 2017 5:55pm
- Longknives
  
  “He cant speak ANY english. He cannot control his sexual urges, he molests children. What benefit does this scumbag bring to NZ ?”
  
  He ‘Enriches’ us through the ‘Diversity Dividend’ Starboard- Get with the play!
  
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  May 23, 2017 6:57pm
- Longknives
  
  Woodhouse has made his decision- And he chose Political Correctness over safety of New Zealand kids!
  He simply must be held accountable next time Sultan Akbari attacks..
  
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  May 23, 2017 6:59pm
  - nasska
    
    Most of Woodhouse’s supporters will have daughters, nieces or granddaughters of the age that the scum Afghani prefers. Maybe when they tuck them into bed tonight they can reflect on how the gutless creep has put them or their schoolmates at risk.
    
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    May 23, 2017 7:10pm
krazykiwi

@stephie:

I’m still waiting for you to do the honourable thing.

In your own time now.
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May 23, 2017 6:02pm
- nasska
  
  Looks like he’s running with option #3.
  
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  May 23, 2017 6:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Honourable is a nice word….
  just in case some folks don’t know what it means, they could substitute with these alternatives:
  
  ethical, fair, truthful, just, trustworthy, principled, moral, good, noble, creditable, honest, decent.
  
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  May 23, 2017 7:24pm
dad4justice

“ethical, fair, truthful, just, trustworthy, principled, moral, good, noble, creditable, honest, decent.”

There wouldn’t be a politician in this country that has one of honourable traits embedded in their character.
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May 23, 2017 7:28pm
- Reid
  
  There’s possibly one or two who start out like that but they have it excoriated early on if they wish to be at all successful, not just by their veteran colleagues but by the media who are supposedly, in Western democracies, meant to encourage such but in fact do the precise opposite.
  
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  May 23, 2017 7:38pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I don’t think Krazykiwi is too worried about our honourable MPs and Judges.
  
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  May 23, 2017 7:43pm
  - dad4justice
    
    Finding an honourable mp or judge would be on par with expecting stiffyboy to do the honourable thing.
    
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    May 23, 2017 7:48pm
  - nasska
    
    krazykiwi is a tenacious bugger. I have a feeling that this issue will follow the pathetic Muslim enabler around cyberspace for a while yet.
    
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    May 23, 2017 7:54pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Mmmm perhaps. Stephie’s thunderous abuse of grammar generally, and his abuse of commas specifically, may yet deter me 🙂
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:01pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Just complain to DPF. His next strike means a month of peace ?
        
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        May 23, 2017 8:34pm
Maggy Wassilieff

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-when-you-come-across-with-the-ideas-that-you-don-t-like-and-even-hate-do-these-three-mehmet-murat-ildan-127-32-79.jpg
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May 23, 2017 8:06pm
- nasska
  
  Nice thought Maggy but no medal. It would probably make for a better world but would result in piss-poor blog debates. 🙂
  
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  May 23, 2017 8:18pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You prefer a low, base, venal, shabby, sordid, corrupt, perfidious, rotten, crooked, putrid, or ignominious method of debating, then?
    
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    May 23, 2017 8:31pm
    - nasska
      
      It’s what I’ve become used to Maggy. 🙂
      
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      May 23, 2017 8:35pm
Viking2

In June 2015, Swney was found to have stolen about $2.5m from Heart of the City over 10 years, as well as failing to pay about $1.76m in tax over the same period.

Swney was serving five years and seven months in jail for stealing from the Auckland business group because he felt he was not paid enough.

And just about on parole. 2 years for his swindle.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/92886920/bankrupt-alex-swney-will-live-a-downgraded-lifestyle-on-prison-release
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May 23, 2017 8:26pm
- kowtow
  
  Just in time to apply for that recent vacancy at the Ministry of Transport…….
  
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  May 24, 2017 5:41pm
Hugh Pavletich

… ESSENTIAL VIEWING …

ABC The Business Does Bank Re-Rating … Digital Finance Analytics
h/t JG

http://www.digitalfinanceanalytics.com/blog/abc-the-business-does-bank-re-rating/

The Business looked at the impact of S&P’s down grades on 23 smaller banks in Australia, and highlighted the impact on funding and competition, especially in the longer term. It will more than offset the bank levy the big banks will have to wear!

They also looked a funding costs and explained why mortgage rates may rise and the potential adverse impact on household debt. … VIEW & READ more via hyperlink above …

Sydney and Melbourne Home Price Slide … Digital Finance Analytics

http://www.digitalfinanceanalytics.com/blog/sydney-and-melbourne-home-price-slide/

Latest data from CoreLogic shows a continued slide in the major markets this month. Brisbane (inc. Gold Coast) are the only positive markets. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 24, 2017 2:01am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Global Housing Watch … International Monetary Fund
  
  http://www.imf.org/external/research/housing/index.htm
  
  The Global Housing Watch tracks developments in housing markets across the world on a quarterly basis. It provides current data on house prices as well as metrics used to assess valuation in housing markets, such as house price to rent and house-price to income ratios.
  
  – See more at: http://www.imf.org/external/research/housing/index.htm#sthash.2nyVvMKN.dpuf
  
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  May 24, 2017 5:47am
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 2010, The Phoenix Foundation with Buffalo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5rh4LR4dbI
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