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Keeping Stock

It’s pissing down. And as I was driving to work, there was a bloke with a long beard building a boat on the banks of the river 😎
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May 12, 2017 8:01am
- mandk
  
  Were his three sons helping him?
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:12am
  - VicParking
    
    No we are to busy getting all the animals together, two by two
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:13am
    - Biscuit
      
      Let’s hope the bloke with the long beard remembers to pick up the unicorns this time…
      
      He can leave behind the two Labour voters, though!
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:19am
      - pdm
        
        That will be Yoza and Ztev!!
        
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        May 12, 2017 8:23am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Heaven forbid those two breed.
        
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        May 12, 2017 8:30am
      - GazzaW
        
        Let’s pray that he doesn’t take a breeding pair from the stephieteam .
        
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        May 12, 2017 8:54am
      - holysheet
        
        Who will be the union rep. They must have been saved in the first flood for them to still be here now.
        
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        May 12, 2017 9:00am
      - Kimbo
        
        @ holysheet
        
        Who will be the union rep. They must have been saved in the first flood for them to still be here now
        
        Sorry, I’m confused as you now seem to be referencing the details of the book of genisis/genesis* in an not all-together pejorative and hostile manner 😉
        
        * the holysheet-school-of-wilful-and-capricious-spelling
        
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        May 12, 2017 10:35am
    - Liberty
      
      Don’t forget Kermit and miss piggy
      
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      May 12, 2017 11:17am
  - Fletch
    
    What about walking rock-people?
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:52am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  I wondered why I couldn’t find the cats this morning . . . . .
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:12am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    Didn’t have Gareth Morgan around for dinner did you?
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:21am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      vg! 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:38am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  Don’t be alarmed, that is Sa’ad Bin Muhammad, my cousin.
  He is New Zealand’s only Haalal boat builder.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:53am
KevOB

Trump hits: Stuff has 4 again this morning. Fresh dung from the cowshed. When is Min. Foreign Affairs going to get involved?
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May 12, 2017 8:01am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The Herald is the same. But nothing on all Jeremy Corbyn’s clusterf*cks in the last 24 hours.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:07am
  - fernglas
    
    Maybe that’s because Trump is the President of the most powerful country in the world and Corbyn is the leader of an ineffective opposition party in a less powerful one? Although by that yardstick, we would never hear Andrew Little’s name mentioned.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:13am
    - Milhous
      
      Radio NZ had corbyn (but of course had a sarcastic smirk at the Daily Telegraph), but fernglas is correct…. Corbyn could declare that the treasury would be run by a gender neutral collective of homeless immigrants and its relevance would be zero…..Trumps latest ham fisted attempt at governance has real implications for geopolitical events.
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:17am
      - All_on_Red
        
        ‘Trumps latest ham fisted attempt at governance has real implications for geopolitical events’
        
        Oh, you mean like how after pressure from Trump, Germany will now pay 2% of GDP on defence?
        Oh all the winning!
        http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/11/merkel-vows-to-meet-trumps-demands-on-nato-spending/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
        You snowflakes don’t get it eh.
        
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        May 12, 2017 4:08pm
  - Garbageman
    
    While I am in no way a fan of Corbyns to say the least the latest drama where his car has run over a BBCs cameraman’s foot is going to dominate his headlines for a while, you almost have to feel sorry for him their paparazzi are a particularly vile bunch of lowlifes that will go to any lengths to get their shot and then cry foul when shit goes wrong although im sure a bit of koha will help sooth the savage wounds inflicted
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:29am
    - Longknives
      
      Feel sorry for Corbyn? (who openly hates British Armed Forces and supports the Islamic Terrorists they are fighting?)
      Nah sorry…Cry me a river!
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:29am
- Inandout
  
  Duncan Garner has wheeled out the Trump haters, on cue. ‘Wrong timing by Trump they cry’, but fail to mention when is a good time to sack Comey. He was not a universally liked FBI boss, especially when he failed to take the Clinton email inquiry any further; staff walked out in protest.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:15am
  - Milhous
    
    The evidence that he was well liked and respected seems pretty convincing compared to the now retracted statement of a reality tv hosts spokesperson.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:18am
    - Inandout
      
      Poll the FBI staff then.
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:20am
      - Milhous
        
        are you now saying the acting head of the FBI has categorically lied to the Senate???
        
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        May 12, 2017 8:27am
      - All_on_Red
        
        http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/11/fbi-agents-say-good-riddance-to-comey/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
        
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        May 12, 2017 3:44pm
    - Ross12
      
      Quote from McCabe’s testimony
      
      “I think morale’s always been good, but there were folks within our agency that were frustrated with the outcome of the Hillary Clinton case and some of those folks were very vocal about those concerns.”
      
      Given the political nature of what is going on this statement suggests otherwise Milhous. Maybe not widespread discontent but it’s obviously not “a bed of roses”
      
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      May 12, 2017 10:02am
  - Scott
    
    Probably should have sacked him earlier but Trump has so many appointments to fill that he left the FBI director in place. People forget that Jim Comey was put in an impossible position by Hillary Clinton through the use of a private server to handle classified information and his boss the attorney general meeting with Bill Clinton to discuss the investigation.
    
    Also it is rank hypocrisy for the Democrats to be up in arms about Comey when they have been calling for his resignation for months. It is only bad when Trump does it??
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:12am
  - chiz
    
    The appropriate time to sack Comey would have been when the Inspector-General finishes his probe into Comey. The deputy AG claimed in his letter that Comey should be fired for his behaviour, but Comey claims he has reasons for it. Why not wait until the IG reports on this?
    
    If one of your employees, Jane, complains, say, that Bill has sexually harassed her would you fire Bill without at least checking out his version of events? That is, effectively, what Trump is doing.
    
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    May 12, 2017 12:55pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      politics is a different game – perceptions matter as much if not more than reality, fairness has little to do with it. Top civil servants in US are all political appointments.
      
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      May 12, 2017 3:41pm
- Pongo
  
  Cant seem to find much on the success Maduro is having with socialism in Venezuela either.
  
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  May 12, 2017 1:45pm
duggledog

Act’s David Seymour attacks Steven Joyce over waste –

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11854106

“$130 mil subsidies through NZ on Air for programmes such as The X Factor ($800,000), Mastermind ($685,000), Jono and Ben ($1.7 million) and Find me a Maori Bride ($590,000).”

“What do taxpayers really gain from funding research on ‘Cultivating chamber music in Beethoven’s Vienna: a study in socio-musicology,’ ($580,000); or anti-trade activist Jane Kelsey’s ‘Transcending embedded neoliberalism in international economic regulation’ ($600,000)”

F***ing disgraceful; and under a National administration too.

What an extraordinary situation. I’d say the vast majority of Kiwis would be against this sort of waste; yet only one in a hundred would vote for the one party dedicated to get rid of it.

Silly old kiwis zzzzzz ooh the rugby’s on
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May 12, 2017 8:01am
- kowtow
  
  Talking of Notional stuff ups , look at their tobacco inspired crime wave .
  
  And this too.
  
  “A Dunedin supermarket with a perfect record selling alcohol faces losing its liquor licence over the amount of tobacco products it sells.”
  
  Being less worse than Labour doesn’t make National good at government.
  
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/liquor-licence-doubt
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:08am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    “Being less worse than Labour doesn’t make National good at government”
    
    Quote of the year for mine. I’ll be using that one with my local MP.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:42am
  - peterwn
    
    Another side to the dairy ‘hold up’ coin. Looks like dairies will be forced out of business. Alternatively the choice is between selling alcohol or tobacco.
    IMO the test should be does the small dairy/ grocer have an appropriate of groceries, milk, etc available for sale to locals, regardless of tobacco turnover. This would be a modern day equivalent of the ‘hotel’ requirement – if you wanted to sell liquor you had to make beds and meals available to travelers – this helped ensure there was a network of accommodation providers in the days before modern roads or air travel.
    A few inaccuracies in the article. Foodstuffs owns the Four Square franchise, not the individual businesses. Also the Medical Officer of Health cannot over-rule a licensing decision – presumably he appealed it to a higher tribunal.
    Coming to think of it – Foodstuffs should be taking premises security seriously – even unfranchised business served by its Gilmours subsidiary.
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:08am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  only one in a hundred would vote for the one party dedicated to get rid of it.ACT used to have nine MPs. I doubt previous ACT voters have now decided they like their hard earned wages being taken and wasted on total crap. More likely it is because, just about every time an ACT MP has been in the news, it has been for something that has little or nothing to do with reducing the size of government.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:05am
- wiseowl
  
  Waste.
  What about subsidy.
  $240 million over the next four years to help bring international productions to New Zealand.Welligton left mayor says ‘we need to ensure the next generation of talent like Peter Jackson and Richard Taylor are supported.”
  Why?
  Why the hell does this sector get a subsidy when anyone else in private enterprise is out there in the free market.
  This subsidy ,picking winners , is reprehensible.
  Disgusting National.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:34am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Does NZ Economy end up bigger or smaller as a result of the subsidy? Honest question. IF bigger then subsidy is worth it, also some secondary benefits in advertising for tourism.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:58am
    - wiseowl
      
      That is not the point urban.
      Maybe we should subsidise dairy farms.That would make the economy bigger.
      Picking winners has always been argued against especially by National after farmers had subsidies removed.
      It is pure favouritism and and should not happen.
      
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      May 12, 2017 12:49pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        I would hope that govt decision on this subsidy is guided by economic benefit rather than chances for MPs to hang out with the cool kids. But I might be disappointed. At minimum I would hope that the people doing the economic analysis are at minimum neutral if not actively hostile towards film industry subsidy (not typical wellington beltway types with friends at Weta).
        
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        May 12, 2017 3:46pm
Manolo

Pay for play. Honest and transparent as Hillary Clinton:
http://circa.com/politics/clinton-pressured-bangladesh-prime-minister-personally-to-help-foundation-donor

The Office of Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina confirmed to Circa that Mrs. Clinton called her office in March 2011 to demand that Dr. Muhammed Yunus, a 2006 Nobel Peace prize winner, be restored to his role as chairman of the country’s most famous microcredit bank, Grameen Bank.

The bank’s nonprofit Grameen America, which Yunus chairs, has given between $100,000 and $250,000 to the Clinton Global Initiative. Grameen Research, which is chaired by Yunus, has donated between $25,000 and $50,000, according to the Clinton Foundation website.
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May 12, 2017 8:03am
Rich Prick

Strangest sight spotted in Shoreditch this morning, a woman in a full burka walking behind (presumably) her husband, breaks rank to look and feel a sexy little red dress from a street pitch. She did hang it back up and scurry off.
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May 12, 2017 8:07am
- kowtow
  
  Was it a woman though?
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:09am
  - VicParking
    
    Maybe she was looking for one of the younger wives. Was it a Pumpkin Patch stall.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:18am
  - holysheet
    
    It was stupidboy in drag.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:06am
- stephieboy
  
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  RichPrick, still having voices in your head ?
  
  All Auckland drenched in non stop rain this morning .
  
  What else do have tucked away in your hate filled armoury ?
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:37am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I don’t really care about Auckland’s weather, seeing as it’s half a world away from me. How’s that for “hate filled”?
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:40am
  - GazzaW
    
    The last I heard was that Shoreditch is in London and not an Auckland suburb. You need to get out more stephieboy. Maybe visions of Middle Eastern ladies in skimpy red dresses got you going.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:00am
    - Longknives
      
      Ha Ha I thought Shoreditch was just off Dominion Rd? On the Mt Roskill fringe??
      
      Love your work Stephieboy !
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:37am
- Inandout
  
  Dreams are free, poor bitch.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:43am
  - Rich Prick
    
    That’s exactly what I thought, and with a sense of sadness for her. Imagine living in one of the best cities in the world, but having to live like you’re still in the dusty open sewers Mogadishu?
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:51am
    - stephieboy
      
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      RichProck , have ever had the guts to go up to someone like her and try to communicate and without your paranoid and hateful bile ?
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:02am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        No cause the hubby then tried to stone us both, me for daring to talk to her and her for not turning away from me
        
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        May 12, 2017 9:07am
      - holysheet
        
        Unlike you perving at young girls from a distance?
        
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        May 12, 2017 9:07am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Do you know what her husband might do to her later for just looking at an infidel, let alone taking to one who came up to her? Shit stephie, you’ve not been exposed to full-blown pure Islam. I wouldn’t dare put the woman at risk.
        
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        May 12, 2017 9:09am
      - Inandout
        
        How can you communicate with a statue that has slits for eyes?
        
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        May 12, 2017 9:11am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        Clearly you know very little about Islam.
        
        For those females who adhere to strict interpretations of social behaviour, they are forbidden to communicate with non-believer men unless absolutely necessary (medical reasons, police matters).
        
        Any male trying to converse with a burqua-clad female is putting her in danger. (She could be subject to punishment, ostracism, or even divorce).
        
        If you want to be an advocate for Muslims in NZ, do yourself a favour and learn something about them and their beliefs and values.
        
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        May 12, 2017 11:56am
      - Jack5
        
        I think it’s untruth rather than ignorance on the part of the Stephieboys troll team.
        
        Taqiya gives Muslims moral permission to lie to non-Muslims.
        
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        May 12, 2017 12:34pm
      - Kea
        
        “Taqiya gives Muslims moral permission to lie to non-Muslims.”
        
        As does the Jewish Talmud to non Jews. It also gives permission to cheat and steal from non Jews.
        
        Not surprising as the two have far more in common than they do with the bastard off shoot of Christianity.
        
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        May 12, 2017 1:16pm
- Nermal
  
  Saw my first black burka clad woman in our local pools. Really pissed me off to be honest, as it appeared to be contrary to appropriate clothing standards posted everywhere. I won’t call it the weasel word “burkini” as it bears absolutely no similarity to a bikini.
  
  After watching the first two episode of “The Handmaiden’s Tale” on TV I felt pity for the woman and anger at the fundamentalist cult which requires her to dress like that.
  
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  May 12, 2017 3:00pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  A Muslim couple in Prestatyn, preparing for their wedding, meet the Mullah for counselling.
  The Mullah asks if they have any last questions before they leave.
  The man asks, “We realise it’s a tradition in Islam for men to dance with men, and women to dance with women.
  But, at our wedding reception, we’d like your permission to dance together.”
  “Absolutely not,” says the Mullah. “It’s immoral. Men and women always dance separately.”
  “So after the ceremony I can’t even dance with my own wife?”
  “No,” answered the Mullah, “It’s forbidden in Islam.”
  “Well, okay,” says the man, “What about sex? Can we finally have sex?
  “Of course!” replies the Mullah, “Sex is OK within marriage, to have children!”
  “What about different positions?” asks the man.
  “No problem,” says the Mullah.
  “Woman on top?” the man asks.
  “Sure,” says the Mullah. “Go for it!”
  “Doggy style?”
  “Sure!”
  “On the kitchen table?”
  “Yes, yes!”
  “Can we do it with all my four wives together on rubber sheets with a bottle of hot oil, a couple of vibrators, leather harnesses, a bucket of honey and a porno video?”
  “You may indeed!”
  “Can we do it standing up?”
  “No.” says the Mullah.
  “Why not?” asks the man.
  “It could lead to dancing.”
  https://jokesandhumourworld.wordpress.com/2012/07/15/muslim-couple-getting-married-joke/
  
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  May 12, 2017 3:50pm
Stars And Stripes

S&S has recently returned from a road trip to the Horowhenua/Kapiti region where I decided to stop in at Otaki and get cultural in the future bilingual capital of NZ.
Well unfortunately not much culture was found with only a “Hey Bro” mentioned in passing at the gas station and a Māori women giving me a “Kia Ora” in the café and promptly selling me a stale filled roll.
Yes well Kia bloody Ora to you too.
Anyway decided to pop in to Coastlands Mall at Paraparaumu for a spot of shopping later in the day and was looking at a jacket in a shop window when an old guy approached me and said “All this bloody chink stuff they have now, this all used to be made around here you know”.
Initially I thought he was a bit of a crank but after another couple of short bigoted remarks from him I decided this guy was good value.
Then completely without prompting(ok maybe a little bit) I got the cultural experience I missed in Otaki.
The old guy delivered one of the most faultless uninterrupted racial diatribes which S&S has ever had the honour of being witness too.
I am sure this guy must have been in Toastmasters at some stage because the passion with which he spoke was truly inspiring and obviously the work of a polished professional.
After a good 3-4 minutes the rant finally subsided and the ball was back in my court.
Well even with my extensive repertoire I was not going to be able to match that phenomenal effort so I took the easy way out and asked what any decent human being would ask “Are you on Kiwiblog by chance?”.
He said he was not so I told him he should be as he had a very valuable skill set and really it was a waste not to impart that amount of knowledge with a wider audience.
Anyway I never got the old guys name but I can report that a true NZ legend resides near Coastlands Mall and if you are in the area and extremely fortunate as I was he will approach you to discuss some concerns surrounding immigration he has.
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May 12, 2017 8:10am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  He wasn’t bearded was he S&S, older with an English accent?
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:25am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    You should become a psychic as you are correct on all counts.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:44am
    - hmmokrightitis
      
      I suspect I know the man you met (as you can tell), and his daughter would be both horrified and unsurprised.
      
      Hes a fairly well known local identity, used to have his own radio show, and world class curmudgeon. Also does a lot of charity work, which is how I know him.
      
      He has enjoyed quite a life, and has some amazing stories to tell. And yes, having spent some time on stage and radio, he’s a very eloquent old bugger as well 😀
      
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      May 12, 2017 10:09am
- stephieboy
  
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  ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz…
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:38am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    Squirrel!
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:04am
  - Garbageman
    
    And that will be your most intelligent contribution for the day guaranteed
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:06am
- Inandout
  
  He was probably a retired public servant, having spent years reluctantly absorbing the ‘principles of te treaty’. No doubt he also would have had to sit through Maori cultural re-education lectures, led by a barely educated kaumatua. Though he obviously had an excellent command of the English language, sadly his type is slowly becoming extinct. I like to listen to a good solid diatribe, whatever views the speaker holds.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:58am
  - hmmokrightitis
    
    If its who I think it is, and it appears it is, hes worked in the private sector all of his life, after military service, and at the highest levels in well known international brands.
    
    His children attended local schools, and immersed themselves, and are quite knowledgeable about, “locals” like me. He just hates seeing waste and laziness in general.
    
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    May 12, 2017 11:19am
- Kimbo
  
  Would Kiwiblog’s resident archivist, Nostradamus, please save the above S&S post for posterity, and we all agree that the date and time (May 12, 2017 8:10am) is written in gold.
  
  I also vote we make the “Postcards from Stars & Stripes” a regular feature on Kiwiblog. David Farrar in Antarctica is ok, but S&S doing a New Zealand road trip is what the punters really want!
  
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  May 12, 2017 10:43am
duggledog

Did anyone see the latest ill-advised Bill English stunt? Where he shows you where he goes for a jog.

Where are the handlers? And no, it doesn’t make him an ‘everyman’. It makes him look boring.

The sheep shearing, tick.
The spaghetti pizza and the jog, fail.

What images do they want people to take into the ballot box, when an extraordinary amount of voters know nothing about National apart from the fact its livery is blue?

Exhibit A: Shane Jones. Ask an average voter what they know about him.
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May 12, 2017 8:10am
- Keeping Stock
  
  The video you refer to has been viewed more than 284,000 times as of a couple of minutes ago duggledog. That’s the kind of reach Andrew Little can only dream of.
  
  As Oscar Wilde said:
  
  There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:29am
  - krazykiwi
    
    On the subject of being ignored, I saw the Herald lamenting the weather here in Auckland, and they embedded this tweet from Goff. He’d been re-tweeted by just one person. Quite the celebrity 🙂
    
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    May 12, 2017 2:28pm
- holysheet
  
  His minders are trying to create a John Key lookalike. Its not working. Let Bill be himself.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:11am
- GazzaW
  
  What do I as an average voter recall about NZF’s great hope, Shane Jones? Porno movies courtesy of Joe Taxpayer and the sponsoring of NZ citizenship of a very dodgy money launderer come to mind.
  
  Peters, Jones, Mark, Little, Ardern, Shaw and Turei around the Cabinet table. What a prospect to look forward to.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:11am
Keeping Stock

Scotland Yard has launched an investigation after a BBC cameraman’s foot was run over by one of its cars which was carrying Jeremy Corbyn to Labour’s General Election manifesto meeting.

Senior party officials met in London on Thursday to discuss and finalise Labour’s manifesto after a draft version was leaked.

But Mr Corbyn’s arrival at the venue was far more dramatic than he would have hoped as BBC cameraman Giles Wooltorton’s left foot was run over by the front left wheel of the vehicle carrying the Labour leader.

Mr Wooltorton had to be treated by paramedics and was subsequently taken away in an ambulance.

Mr Corbyn was driven to the meeting by officers from the Metropolitan Police’s royalty and specialist protection unit.

After the incident officers appeared on the scene to speak to journalists who witnessed what happened at the Institution of Engineering and Technology in central London.

A Met Police spokesman has now confirmed that the matter has been referred to the directorate of professional standards, which is responsible for the conduct of officers in the force.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/11/bbc-cameraman-run-jeremy-corbyns-car/

I wonder what all those like ztev, Morrissey and Yoza will have to say about this after their comments earlier in the week about Chester Borrows. Or is it REALLY ok when the Left does it?
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- Rich Prick
  
  Given the choice, I’d much prefer to have my foot run over by some one much better than a buck-toothed, beared hermit with no purpose on this planet other than to steal oxygen from the rest of us.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:22am
- kowtow
  
  Camera man, like so many of his vulture like colleagues, was too eager to get “footage” so was in a really stupid place . Not the drivers’ fault.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:23am
  - Dafixeruppa
    
    Footage… I see what you did there…
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:09am
    - kowtow
      
      Yeah but it’s hardly “stand up” comedy.
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:26am
      - Dafixeruppa
        
        I was thinking maybe… And he thought he could foot it with the big boys
        
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        May 12, 2017 1:15pm
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      😀
      
      Very good!
      
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      May 12, 2017 12:44pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  In the Corbyn incident, the cameraman actually had his foot run over, was treated and taken away in an ambulance; oh for the glories of the NHS and all the facilities free to all in an instant to be available here. The NHS has 1.4 million employees, and is the fifth biggest employer in the world.
  
  What did we get here after our scrawny protester walked in front of Chester Borrows car and she (was) ‘folded over the bonnet’?
  
  Nothing, not an ambulance or an aid worker, nothing. A helping hand to move her from harm’s way from a policeman who was standing there, the same policeman who had failed to stop her walking in front of the car in the first place, all the while shrieking ‘did anyone get that on camera?’
  
  Cue the little one to pop up when being interviewed to say ‘not doing enough’, again.
  
  Sigh.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:32am
  - peterwn
    
    As much as I detest Jeremy Corbyn, he had nothing do do with the incident. The matter is being investigated (perhaps by a Police force other than Metropolitan Police) and if appropriate the driver would be charged with careless driving causing injury or whatever the UN equivalent is.
    Chaster was the driver in his incident – it was not as if he was in a Ministerial car (as Jeremy was).
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:51am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I accept that completely peterwn. But the timing, just a couple of days after Borrows’ acquittal could not have been more provident for someone who enjoys sticking the oar in on occasions 😀
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:00am
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      Oops – should be UK not UN and Chester not Chaster.
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:02am
Happychappy

I didn’t hear you complain when NZ film society gave not quite a Million dollars of tax payers money to make a film on Dot Com and his trouble with the NZ Government.
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May 12, 2017 8:13am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You can check it out at your local International Film Festival
  http://www.nziff.co.nz/2017/film/kim-dotcom-caught-in-the-web/
  
  Oh, don’t forget “My year with Helen” – the 1 year in the life of Helen Clark.
  http://www.nziff.co.nz/2017/film/my-year-with-helen/
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:25am
  - Longknives
    
    Hmmm..What shall I go to at the flicks?
    ‘Guardians of the Galaxy 2’? Or ‘A year in the life of Helen Clark’??
    
    The agony of choice..
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:44am
    - sooty
      
      Talk about screwing the scrum!
      
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      May 12, 2017 4:10pm
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    I presume the tickets to “6 Months With Helen Clark” were twice the price.
    
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    May 13, 2017 1:33am
duggledog

Yeah that’s it Kowtow.

I wonder whether National know what percentage of their voters only vote for them because they know what would happen if National lost, as opposed to the percentage of voters who just think the administration is awesome.

I would worry about that if I was doing strategy. So hard to know. But just on this blog, over the last couple of years I have noticed more and more dissent and comments such as ‘Notional’ and ‘Labour Lite’ get an awful lot of upticks.

By the way Happychappy I didn’t know that. But I do now, and I am even more pissed.
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May 12, 2017 8:18am
- Biscuit
  
  Duggledog, I don’t follow your drift.
  
  You rubbish Bill English for pushing his profile.
  
  Seen any Wimmin’s magazine lately that hasn’t had a pic of Jacinda flashing her dentures?
  
  Like it or not, a lot of people tend to vote these days on personality rather than politics.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:23am
  - kowtow
    
    Restore the property franchise, seriously.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:33am
- Prince
  
  It’s the third term. Will get worse in the fourth.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:57am
- Happychappy
  
  Well I posted the story on two different occasions and by the way i guess you will be right behind Winston Peters and his plan to give small business owners more money and continue it for another 18 months. It seems into days world it is expected for opposition parties to promise other peoples money to collect a few votes. You rubbish Bill English for his Policy and think the sun shines out of the arse of another that does the same to collect votes. Remember Owen Genn.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:23am
  - wiseowl
    
    Happy refer to my earlier post re $300 million given to the film industry.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:43am
brett68

This in the final nail in the coffin of ACT.
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2017/05/12/breaking-exclusive-massive-online-act-party-data-breach/
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May 12, 2017 8:18am
- Keeping Stock
  
  That’s exceptionallt careless by Act. But remember all the hacking accusations and outrage from the likes of Bradbury, the Standard and other hard-core lefties when Cameron Slater discovered a vulnerability in Labour’s website and blogged about it?
  
  They can’t have it both ways.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:22am
  - DifferentPerspective
    
    KS lol – beat me too it by 2 mins with the WOBH connection…
    
    … but we both forgot, it’s OK when the Left do it!
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:34am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Ouch!
  
  Still, what would you expect for a party led by a child?
  
  On the other hand, wasn’t exactly this what the Labour party did a few years back and they accused WOBH of a hack? So if WOBH hacked Labour… then has Martin/Martyn Bradbury just hacked ACT?
  
  OMG Bradbury is Russian!!!
  
  (Sorry all, I thought I was a Democrat Hillary supporter for a second)
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:24am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The cure for even thinking like a Hillary supporter.
    
    Retire to dark room, lie down with warm wash cloth over face until all such feelings pass.
    
    Pay the receptionist on the way out
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:36am
    - RF
      
      How much extra is a “Happy Ending” Paulus ?
      
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      May 12, 2017 10:55am
      - Happychappy
        
        This is what happens when you allow Judges to let people profit by using stolen data provided by criminals. The crime of hacking is a roaring trade worldwide supported by the Media who believe they have the right to publish it to also make money from the proceeds of crime.
        
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        May 12, 2017 11:04am
Peter

No taxpayer money should be given to entertainment or toxic academia.

Neither are scarce.

I read that a well known NZ rock band have received over 350k in grants over the years. Why? They run a commercial business and aren’t even resident here.
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May 12, 2017 8:27am
rangitoto

Labour had the same issue with their website. Trying to do things on the cheap in both cases.
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May 12, 2017 8:28am
Monique Watson

Hi all. Sunny as fuck here. No boat in sight. Dog is sunbathing and I’m fondly remembering my fishing memories from NZ. May the snapper force be with you.
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May 12, 2017 8:31am
EAD

As I’ve been highlighting the last few days, it always pays to read the Jewish Press to see how different the narrative is between the Goyim Press outlets they control vs. the press outlets intended for Jewish eyes.

Case in point:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/24/french-jews-turning-to-le-pen-after-muslim-attacks/

In the above Breitbart article (Breitbart is owned by Larry Solov & formerly Andrew Breitbart) they tell the “right wing” Goyim audience that Jews are increasingly supporting Le Pen due to, you guessed it “Anti-Semitism”. They then proceed to fill the Goyim Press with stories on how “Jews are fleeing France” due to increased anti-Semitism from the dusky hoardes so that we feel sympathy for them and keep the crippled Goyim worrying about the “eternal victims”.

Contrast this narrative with the truth as revealed in the Jewish press where a staggering 96.3% of Jews voted for former Rothschild banker Macron who promised to open up the French people’s border and to punish Eastern Europe countries who don’t take in more refugees:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/french-israelis-vote-overwhelmingly-for-macron/

Voting (and acting) tribally in the best interests of your ethnic group is the most normal thing in the world – Muslims do it, Jews do it, Maoris do it – it is only in the brainwashed Goyim countries where we’re told to vote for “left” or “right” parties who carry out almost identical policies any way.

It is only due to the people behind the French revolution that we have a concept of left vs. right in order to divide and rule.
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May 12, 2017 8:39am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, consider this ,
  
  “I will insist the Hebrews have contributed more to civilize men than any other nation. If I was an atheist and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations …
  They are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.”
  
  John Adams
  
  PS Your solution to the Jewish Question ?
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:05am
  - EAD
    
    really Stephieboy – are you having a laugh?
    
    The reformation and the spread of the British Empire civilised more of the world than anything else. And what did the godfather (Martin Luther) of the reformation right about the Jewish diaspora?
    
    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1110423.The_Jews_and_Their_Lies
    
    The Jews have given us everything that is the opposite of civilisation – Bolshevism, Marxism, Pornography, Usury, multiculturalism, Hollywood amongst other things.
    
    Have another try.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:18am
- EAD
  
  ‘re Jewish involvement in the bloodbath that was the French Revolution – here is Sir Winston Churchill in his article
  ‘Zionism versus Bolshevism‘ in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 1920
  
  http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html
  
  In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:07am
peterwn

There is unusually little reporting on Craig v Slater currently running in Auckland High Court. I suspect that Cam was strongly advised not to report the case on Whaleoil even if the content provided by others such as Pete or Spanish Bride, although Whaleoil is reporting second hand what little news is appearing in MSM. Possibly there is a secret ‘super injunction’ in place but that would seem very unlikely. It would be interesting to see what MSM reporting there is on the next stage (after Mr Henry has finished cross examining Mr Craig). Perhaps the full story will not come out until after the trial is over.
There is a preliminary judgment on Courts Dept. web site concerning Mr Cleary as ‘MacKenzie Friend’. It appears that Mr Cleary is a fairly new minted lawyer who is doing his three year ‘apprenticeship’ and therefore cannot be a law firm partner or sole practitioner nor be a ‘lead’ barrister in court proceedings. It seems Mr Craig for whatever reason (financial or otherwise) wanted his services as ‘lead’ barrister and appointing him as a MacKenzie Friend seemed to be a compromise although he effectively has a hand tied behind his back. It does seem strange that Mr Craig is not represented in the usual way and must put him at some disadvantage.
Just to re-iterate if Mr Craig had not sued (or let it go when counter-sued) or published his tract, it is extremely unlikely that Cam would have sued – as far as I can see Cam does not want this but has no option but to defend and counter-attack. It seems one or the other is delusional, we will find out in due course. (I have not sat in on the case nor know anything about it not in the public domain).
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May 12, 2017 8:40am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  The MSM apply the ostrich approach to Slater – they think if they don’t report on him – he won’t continue to point out every time they spread fake news.
  
  It’s not a very good strategy and doesn’t seem to be working at all – but hey it’s all they’ve got right now. At least he’s encouraged them to be smarter when they pimp the poor – now they always make sure the poor they’re pimping is ‘anonymous’ so that it isn’t easy to find out that the “poor, helpless, homeless person who can’t find a home” has a criminal record, has 12 tenancy tribunal decisions against them and trashed the last two HNZ homes they were in.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:47am
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    And ensure the large expensive TV is not in any photos taken.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:53am
- fernglas
  
  The lack of reportage is more likely because the whole thing is a rather dull squabble between two small men than because of any restriction on reporting.
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:59am
- trout
  
  @peterwn From your comment it would appear that Mr. Cleary has not been ‘admitted to the Bar’ yet and is thus not permitted to act as a Barrister. Just another reminder of the closed shop that is the law profession; lawyers control entry, control education, control exams, control qualification, and control participation in professional practice. A study done in the UK some time ago rated the legal profession as the most protected of all service industries. (Remember the fuss when they fought to protect their monopoly on property conveyencing).
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:03am
  - peterwn
    
    ‘Admission to the bar’ allows someone to practice law, but there are restrictions on the practitioner for the first three years, in effect the practitioner has to serve an ‘apprenticeship’. I think anyone ‘admitted to the bar’ used to be able to act as a barrister straight off but the ‘three year’ requirement was put in place there following concerns with ‘car boot lawyers’ in South Auckland.
    In recent times many of the restrictive practices have been broken down, but the public expects legal services to be provided competently and professionally. I would argue the path to becoming a fully qualified anesthetist (or surgeon etc) is far longer and far more stringent than a lawyer (and the drop-out rate for wannabe medical specialists is significant). The anesthetist has a 15 or so year path (including a 6 year medical degree) before becoming fully qualified while a lawyer a 7 – 8 year path (including a 4 year law degree).
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:43am
  - alex Masterley
    
    Mr Cleary is a junior barrister at Shortland Chambers in Auckland.
    That apparent inexperience would not stop him from “leading” a case, but it appears that he will be sitting helping Mr Craig when it comes to cross examination time and when it comes to making submissions. I suspect he will learn a great deal watching Brian Henry go about his work.
    The three year period relates to Barristers and Solicitors (as opposed to Barristers sole) who wish to practice on their own account with a trust account.
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:11am
    - peterwn
      
      The way I read the judgment Mr Cleary was precluded from acting in the usual manner but the judge allowed the MacKenzie Friend arrangement.
      A comment by Spanish Bride (from memory) on Whaleoil seemed to indicate that Mr Cleary could not assist or discuss things with Mr Craig during the cross examination including during breaks.
      Link to judgment (tiny URL):
      https://tinyurl.com/mwsen9v
      
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      May 12, 2017 11:02am
      - alex Masterley
        
        The judgement says he can sit beside CC, take notes, make suggestions as to questions and submissions etc para 5(a) 1-5 of Justice Toogoods decision.
        There is nothing Mr Cleary can do for CC while he is being cross examined, which will be were his case stands or falls.
        
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        May 12, 2017 2:43pm
- Paulus
  
  Possibly both are delusional ?
  
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  May 12, 2017 10:55am
- Yvette
  
  Craig again denies harassment in court
  … Mr Craig said once the pair attended mediation, a sexual harassment case by Ms MacGregor was withdrawn with both agreeing they had at times acted inappropriately by kissing and exchanging intimate letters. – http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?ID=247553
  
  Everybody in New Zealand probably knows Ms MacGregor took a sexual harassment claim against Craig. The determination reached however is confidential and the public has no official statement of the outcome, except Craig is reported here as saying the sexual harassment case by Ms MacGregor was withdrawn.
  If there is no reported repercussion from that, is it accepted as true, or if not has Craig committed perjury?
  
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  May 12, 2017 12:36pm
  - peterwn
    
    Mr Henry would have been like an angler ‘playing’ a trout during his cross examination of Mr Craig. Perhaps MSM journos found it too excruciating to report.
    
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    May 12, 2017 12:46pm
Jack5

Are Bill English’s young, new Ministers out to fuck up the election for National?

I’m thinking of, first, Vicky Wagner in effect defending the crime-fuelling cigarette duty by saying perhaps cigarette sales should be transferred to liquor outlets. Second, I’m thinking of David Bennett raising the possibility of compulsory folic-acid in all bread.

For anyone who missed yesterday’s debate on folic acid in bread, here’s a summary.

1. When women consume folic accid before a baby is conceived and in early stages of conception, they reduce the risk of having a baby with a foetal neural tube defect, such as spina bifida or anencephaly.

2. In 2006, the Government mandated that addition of folic acid to bread would be introduced in 2009, and then said this would be delayed to 2012.

3. In the interim, major bakers agreed to add folic acid to one third of their range of breads, and at a greater rate that which the Government had planned to make compulsory (200 units per 100g compared with 140 per 100g).

4. A follow-up survey (link below) indicated that the voluntary addition of folic acid to bread, had, in the words of the survey linked to below, “contributed to the increased folate status of women”.

5. Other possible sources of folic acid for women mentioned in the study included breakfast cereals.

In the thread on Kiwiblog yesterday one poster even suggested plain packaging for bread that hasn’t had folic acid added. Hell’s teeth!

Raising the possibility of compulsory folic acid in all bread risks a blowback for National in the coming election. What does Bennett think he is doing?

Link to the study of the effects of voluntary addition:

https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/media/1603642/monitoring-fortification-of-bread-folic-acid.pdf
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May 12, 2017 8:44am
- GazzaW
  
  To the contrary, National is looking to protect its strong footing in the centre-left. I doubt very many National traditionalists will desert the party over folic acid and restricting tobacco sales to liquor outlets as daft as those suggestions may sound.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:31am
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    National traditionalists alone won’t get the party over the line.
    
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    May 12, 2017 12:31pm
Chuck Bird

FYI

Muslim Migrant Accidentally Eats Pork At Restaurant – You Won’t Believe What He Does Next

https://gopthedailydose.com/2017/05/10/muslim-migrant-accidentally-eats-pork-restaurant-wont-believe-next/
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May 12, 2017 8:48am
- Padriv Ustoev
  
  As an Imam I can’t help but call for the punishment if this Muslim. Man.
  What is he doing in an Infidel Pub in a first place. A n establishment full of uncovered women and alcohol!
  May Allah have mercy on him.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:03am
- Inandout
  
  None so dumb as a dumb Muslim. Does this prick not realise that just about any food, packaged or not, has been brushed by a bit of pork? Oh well, there go the 72 virgins.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:05am
  - mara
    
    Perhaps he will now only get one 72 year old virgin as punishment.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:43am
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      A 72 year old virgin vegan would be worse.
      
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      May 12, 2017 1:15pm
- stephieboy
  
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  Chuck Bird ,
  
  I see and I wonder if the Muslim Migrant happened to be Jewish ?
  
  What then with you and your sick link ?
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:11am
  - Padriv Ustoev
    
    How can a Muslim be a Jew Stephanie? That’s just silly.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:30am
    - stephieboy
      
      Padriv Ustoev , like Muslims Jews preclude pork in their dietary customs and laws .
      
      Furthermore Islam like Judasim and Christianity is an Abrahamic relgion ( sharing ,any beliefs in common eg monotheistic )
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:41am
      - Padriv Ustoev
        
        But a Muslim, can’t be a Jew like you are suggesting.
        
        One is a insidious political parasite that has infiltrated all branches of government and most areas of European civil life, and the other is from Israel.
        
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        May 12, 2017 9:50am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        One suspects that your average Jew would be intelligent enough to know what he was eating.
        Muslim, not so much.
        
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        May 12, 2017 1:02pm
- holysheet
  
  You should put a sign on the door stating “Muslim Free Zone” Pork only menu. That way you should be covered from being sued.
  
  What was a mussie doing in a place that sells alcohol anyway?
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:22am
  - stephieboy
    
    holyturd , I do enjoy my Thai Pork curries ,
    
    http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/thai-pork-stir-fry/f331e718-6817-44db-b70b-5ce26d9bab5d
    
    You ?
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:43am
    - Dafixeruppa
      
      Stephieboy, you get my down tick for the insult, but a comment as I like a nice Thai pork curry too.
      
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      May 12, 2017 10:35am
    - Jack5
      
      Porkies from Stephie X.
      
      No surprise there.
      
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      May 12, 2017 12:51pm
  - holysheet
    
    Look stupidboy, we all know you are a master of deflection, but trying to appear non moslem by saying you like pork, is just living up to the stoooooooopid in your name.
    
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    May 12, 2017 11:00am
- Longknives
  
  What was he doing at a Pub anyway? Alcohol is strictly forbidden under Islamic Law…
  And no devout Muslim would ever be a hypocrite about such things *cough..
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:47am
  - SGA
    
    meh – I think it’s probably a healthy thing if Muslims and Mormons, say, are willing to go to a bar/restaurant/clubrooms with their friends, workmates or sports team.
    And no devout Catholic would ever use contraceptives *cough..
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:18am
  - Nermal
    
    I don’t drink alcohol for health reasons but on occasion have a pub meal with friends. Having said that, I’m very careful what I drink, as that is my own responsibility
    
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    May 12, 2017 3:20pm
Jack5

Say it again Kathryn …

Kathryn Ryan, in previewing her Radio NZ show this morning broke up when she pronounced the surname of someone. His name sounded something like Mr Schitts.
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May 12, 2017 8:55am
- kowtow
  
  From the same guilt ridden white radio station that puts so much forced effort into Murri pronounciation.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:02am
- stephieboy
  
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  Jack5 , your typical puerile and inane best .
  
  Keep it up.
  
  Latest security analysis and dossier regarding Dunedin’s 200 Syrian refugees ?
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:14am
  - Jack5
    
    Stephie X: Remember to keep putting spaces between the end of the sentence and the full stop or question mark. Stephiestani style.
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:27am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It must have been Rob Schmitz’s name.
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201843593/to-the-heart-of-china
  
  I’m heading up to Auckland to hear him talk next week…. (Alas, one of his original co-speakers Ha Jin, is no longer coming to NZ)
  
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  May 12, 2017 12:11pm
- peterwn
  
  I received a discreet email some years ago that I had wrongly spelt the name Shirley on a web site I used to look after. ‘R’ and ‘T’ are adjacent on the keyboard. Fortunately Shirley had not noticed.
  
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  May 12, 2017 2:24pm
Keeping Stock

Speaking of hypocrisy and grabbing at straws, Labour is running some very interesting “attack” lines at the moment.

Robertson is claiming there are more people unemployed today than when National took office, and Lees-Galloway tweeted this yesterday (during Question Time):

Iain Lees-Galloway‏
@IainLG

More jobs Steven Joyce says. Yet there are still more people unemployed in New Zealand today than the day National came into Govt. #nzqt

Lees-Galloway and Robertson ignore of course the fact that New Zealand’s population has increased since they were turfed out in 2008; from 4.26m to an estimated 4.7m now. Jobs are at their highest number ever, and at 70.6% for the first quarter of 2017, the Labour Force Participation rate is the highest it has been since the measure was introduced in 1986.

And then there’s health. Labour is running the line that the Government has stripped $1.7b from health spending, despite the fact that the health budget has gone up every year since 2008. Their justification is that the budget increases haven’t kept up with – wait for it – population growth!

Oppositions exist to hold the government of the day to account. This kind of duplicity from Labour has little to do with accountability, and everything to do with political posturing.
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May 12, 2017 8:55am
- VicParking
  
  Thankfully the only people who can’t see through this shit are hard core liebour voters anyway.
  
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  May 12, 2017 10:43am
dime

im starting to think that our media are cranky with Trump HAHHAHAHAHAAHA

almost 8 more years lefties 🙂
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May 12, 2017 9:00am
- Inandout
  
  The Trump/Media marriage was made in hell, so the MSM wife is a very bitter bird, and won’t allow their husband to gain any good news.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:08am
  - trout
    
    Trump programs and policies are reaching out way beyond the beltway. That the Washington centred MSM are totally obsessed with bringing down the Trump administration by fair means or foul (fake news – latest installment from the NYT – that Comey was fired because he asked for more resources) – is largely irrelevant to the wider population (who incidentally have indicated they would still favour Trump over Clinton.) The media (Washington Post, NYT. CNN etc.) are doubling down because they still cannot accept they were biased in their election coverage and the destruction of Trump will somehow prove they were right- perhaps they will immolate in the heat of their self generated outrage.
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:35am
    - Inandout
      
      How ironic that one has to switch to Fox to actually get both sides of the story. The voters in the provinces don’t really care what the MSM say, and certainly don’t heed their ‘message’.
      
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      May 12, 2017 11:50am
Longknives

Using some poor Guy’s suicide for Political Pointscoring-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11854093

Stay classy Labour!
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May 12, 2017 10:04am
- VicParking
  
  Climbing into politics on the back of a suicide, just about as low as you can go.
  
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  May 12, 2017 10:46am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

Great relief in the mental health community today. Andrew Little was heard saying the current mental health system is in crisis ! This is fantastic as is the case with so many labour-called crisis, it will all be resolved by the end of the month…..phew !!! Keep it up Labour. Just wait for Andrew Little to proclaim that the US and North Korea are in Crisis…..lord help us if he says NZ Labour party is in Crisis !
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May 12, 2017 10:14am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Someone must have installed air conditioning in hell.
  I agree with Andrew Little. Who even knew that could happen.
  Our Mental Health system is very definitely in crisis.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92087103/wellington-hospital-creates-new-space-to-assess-mentally-ill-to-relieve-pressure-on-police
  
  Wellington Hospital creates new space to assess mentally ill to relieve pressure on police??
  Why wouldn’t Wellington Hospital create assessment space because Mental Health is ‘what they do’ and not what Police are there for?
  
  With this kind of “dumb think” its no wonder nothing improves.
  
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  May 12, 2017 10:30am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    “Of the $16.142 billion allocated to health in 2016/17, 19 per cent is to be distributed across disability support services, public health services, specific screening programmes, mental health services, elective services, Well Child and primary maternity services, Māori health services and postgraduate clinical education and training.
    
    What portion of this 19 per cent is dedicated to mental health and how can this be considered reasonable, with at least 10 Kiwis taking their own lives every week?”
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/share-your-news-and-views/14884954/Suicide-and-mental-health-NZs-quiet-crisis
    
    No crisis here, says Jonathan Coleman. Move along.
    Tell that to Chelsea Brunton – oh, wait …
    
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    May 12, 2017 10:42am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/92497265/Serial-Christchurch-child-offender-Margaret-Dodds-loiters-outside-Thorrington-School
      
      How much Vote: Justice will be wasted on matters that should be addressed by the Mental Health system that isn’t in crisis?
      
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      May 12, 2017 11:06am
  - Happychappy
    
    Don’t you find it strange that Andrew Little head is stuck with the figure 40,000. He uses the same figure for the homeless and now comes up with the same figure for needing help in Mental Health and I’m sure he has used the same figure in something else.
    
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    May 12, 2017 11:36am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      I agree with Andrew Little that Mental Health is in crisis.
      Am I convinced that Andrew Little understands the problem, and better yet has a solution?
      Nope, but admitting there is a crisis is a leap ahead of Jonathan Coleman.
      
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      May 12, 2017 11:44am
    - KevOB
      
      Not strange at all: easy to remember.
      
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      May 12, 2017 12:21pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      “I’m sure he has used the same figure in something else.”
      
      Probably the amount of equity he has in his $600K Island Bay bungalow.
      
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      May 12, 2017 1:09pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Because mental health and meth are not the same thing, police are ill equipped to ascertain mad or bad. the initial choice of whether or not to try meth is an individual choice, but the outcomes beome societies.
    I consider myself very fortunate that none of my three childrens have been caught in that particular vortex.
    Why do people think that they will be the one who won’t want more?
    
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    May 12, 2017 1:02pm
- Dafixeruppa
  
  I completely misread your comment and read Great Relief as Andrew little is committed into mental health today…
  
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  May 12, 2017 10:37am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    There was a time I would have laughed at that and moved on, but not now.
    
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/92177712/suicidal-patients-wait-two-weeks-for-mental-health-support
    
    Do you have any idea how long two weeks is if your kid has already tried?
    
    Mental Health is no laughing matter any more.
    
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    May 12, 2017 11:23am
    - Dafixeruppa
      
      STS, I was a volunteer ambulance officer for a number of years and had to deal with the fallout from some of the waiting… But that wasn’t the worst, a friend of mine was a self harmer and kept getting worse each time. I only found out about it when she called me one day to come and patch her up as she had cut far deeper than she normally did and was in trouble.
      When I called the CAT team, their response was simply, oh well if you are there now, then we don’t need to turn up!!! How the hell was I supposed to know how to help someone in her state? I can patch the wounds that show, but that was it!
      So I agree that the situation is no laughing matter.
      
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      May 12, 2017 1:22pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Thanks DFU. I keep prodding on this issue, but there is nowhere near the concern that there needs to be.
        We are all affected by this in some way whether its the distress over a family member, crime committed by untreated patients or just the bills for the constant clean ups when yet another one “slips through the cracks” and the endless benefit support for people who are unable to support themselves.
        We need some good old fashioned bloody outrage over this.
        
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        May 12, 2017 4:09pm
    - Happychappy
      
      The next thing you will have is the Labour Party Leader saying that people beat their wife or kids because they have a Mental Illness and need help.
      
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      May 12, 2017 6:39pm
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        Whoosh. Straight over.
        
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        May 12, 2017 7:30pm
Fletch

Trump trolls Dems (including Sanders) and the media with video of them saying Comey should go.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/862460991451344896
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May 12, 2017 10:59am
UrbanNeocolonialist

House prices definitely off the boil (particularly in Auckland) finally seeing end of the bubble?
http://www.interest.co.nz/property/87666/median-house-prices-slipped-11-regions-last-month-set-record-highs-five-auckland
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May 12, 2017 11:05am
- Dafixeruppa
  
  Ask Hugh, I am sure he’d love to comment about house prices, boils and bubbles.
  Edit: I was too slow, Hugh posted just below
  
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  May 12, 2017 1:22pm
Manolo

PM English would kill for a surplus like this:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-government-posts-182-billion-surplus-april-180943488–business.html

The U.S. government had a $182 billion budget surplus in April, confounding market expectations for a deficit, according to Treasury Department data released on Wednesday.

The budget surplus was $106 billion in April 2016, according to Treasury’s monthly budget statement.
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May 12, 2017 11:14am
Fletch

Sharyl Atkinson tweets on the acting FBI directer’s testimony before Congress –

Comey’s #2 unequivocally states that, contrary to widespread reports, FBI did not ask for more funding for Trump Russia probe before firing

— Sharyl Attkisson (@SharylAttkisson)

The Washington examiner reports the same thing, and also that Comey’s firing has not slowed down the so-called “Russia probe”.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/five-takeaways-from-fbi-director-andrew-mccabes-testimony-on-comey-trump-russia/article/2622812
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May 12, 2017 11:31am
Hugh Pavletich

Median house prices slipped in 11 regions last month but set record highs in five, Auckland sales volumes the worst in seven years: REINZ … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/87666/median-house-prices-slipped-11-regions-last-month-set-record-highs-five-auckland

There was a big decline in the volume of homes sold in April, with median prices also falling in most parts of the country, according to the latest figures from the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand.

The REINZ recorded 5845 residential property sales in April, down 32% compared to March and down 31% compared to April last year.

Median prices fell in 11 of the REINZ’s 16 regions around the country. The biggest fall was in Auckland, where the median dropped $50,500, or 5.6%, from the record high of $905,000 achieved in March to $854,500 in April. But it remained up by 3% compared to April last year. … read more via hyperlink above …
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May 12, 2017 12:01pm
- Happychappy
  
  Are you admitting Nationals comprehensive housing plan is working.
  
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  May 12, 2017 12:19pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I know!
    It must be an election year!
    
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    May 12, 2017 4:52pm
- Longknives
  
  You must get invited to a lot of Parties Hugh…
  Laugh a Minute.
  
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  May 12, 2017 2:35pm
Don the Kiwi

How do you FEEL ?
All snowflakes and lefties should hear this.
Are you listening Stephanie?

https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/facts-dont-care-about-your-feelings
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May 12, 2017 12:26pm
- Inandout
  
  The average US male is now maturing at age 34 so a deluge of snowflakes should be no surprise. Social engineering and ‘student rights’ can take most of the blame, together with indulging parents. Many countries that have escaped total war tend to produce soft generations.
  
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  May 12, 2017 12:48pm
- holysheet
  
  I must be a woman because I feel like one.
  Does this count?
  
  (Mrs Holy is away and I am all alone)
  
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  May 12, 2017 1:02pm
Stars And Stripes

Masturbating man flees Christchurch police
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/05/masturbating-man-flees-christchurch-police.html.
“Police say they had to abandon a pursuit after they caught a man masturbating in his car on Friday morning.
Members of the public spotted the man on Dyers Pass Rd at around 7am”.

Wonder how they spotted him?.
Maybe they were jostling for positions near the drivers window.
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May 12, 2017 12:55pm
- holysheet
  
  Once again another example of plod wasting their time and our money.
  He maybe was a homeless person living in his car. His home is his castle. If he cannot do this in his own home, where can he do it.
  Must have been cops from the stupidboy school of perving.
  
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  May 12, 2017 1:05pm
  - Manolo
    
    I expect a very strong rebuke from our multiculturalist Muslim, denying any interest in ogling girls.
    
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    May 12, 2017 1:10pm
  - Longknives
    
    “He maybe was a homeless person living in his car. His home is his castle.”
    
    Maybe- But maybe also he is an escalating Sex Offender who wanks off watching children from his car today..But is planning something more sinister tomorrow?
    I’m certainly not a fan of NZ Police but I don’t have a heck of a lot of sympathy for people that expose themselves in public..
    
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    May 12, 2017 2:30pm
- Kea
  
  I assume MadDad is helping police with their enquiries, again ? 🙂
  
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  May 12, 2017 1:13pm
  - dad4justice
    
    A truly cowardly comment from a timid freak with nothing better to do. Get a life creep.
    
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    May 12, 2017 4:29pm
Pongo

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/92510421/model-sophia-nash-discharged-without-conviction-for-stealing-handbag
So she is doing community work for amongst other things theft and she steals something from the Sallies while doing community work and gets discharged without conviction. Nice work judge, nice work.
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May 12, 2017 1:42pm
Michael

I reckon this woman might be right, but not for the reason she gives.
Indigenous means native or belonging naturally to a place as opposed to coming later. So one could say kiwi are indigenous to New Zealand [as too would the moa have been if Maori had not killed them all ] but Maori are not indigenous because they came later.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/92475284/Maori-are-not-indigenous-Playmate-says-in-online-post
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May 12, 2017 2:28pm
- Longknives
  
  Maori aren’t ‘Indigenous’.
  I know in New Zealand they have been given free reign to completely rewrite History- But I’m not aware ‘The Chosen People’ have been allowed to rewrite the English Dictionary just yet…
  
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  May 12, 2017 2:32pm
  - KevOB
    
    I wouldn’t class Maori as indigenous. By their own claims they migrated here from the mid Pacific about 700 years ago. They have a great deal in common with other scattered Polynesians. Their origins appear to stretch back into Asia. There may have been some visitation from South America to Polynesia too.
    
    NZ has no sacred mountains.
    
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    May 12, 2017 2:49pm
Michael

Longknives
Try telling the media that.
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May 12, 2017 2:43pm
Michael

National Geographic as well.
http://www.nationalgeographicexpeditions.com/expeditions/wellington-queenstown-auckland-new-zealand-tour/detail
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May 12, 2017 2:47pm
rightoverlabour

Once again Stuff talking shit and over egging the situation. The headline screams
“Rescued tramper tells of two nights stranded alone on Mt Taranaki”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92501549/search-and-rescue-operation-underway-for-missing-woman
In reality she got lost in the foothills. If she had spent two nights “on” Mt Taranaki she would probably be dead.

Now where’s that model I’d like to get lost with on the mountain……
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May 12, 2017 3:29pm
Viking2

Tin hat Brigade today.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/92529695/fluoride-campaigners-protest-at-peter-dunne-speech
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May 12, 2017 4:22pm
Brigitte

NZ MUSIC MONTH

From 1998, Weta and Got The Ju:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A51Te4fLiY
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May 12, 2017 5:36pm
Kea

➡ Fanatical views on race purity.
➡ Extreme nationalism.
➡ Marginalisation of other religions.
➡ Hatred of “race traitors”

Seems I have seen this before somewhere. The religion of hate.

Saving the daughters of Israel from the annihilation of intermarriage

the head of Hemla, Elyakim Neiman, described intermarriage between Jewish women and Arab men as a “national plague.” He said, “We are doing our best to save these girls before they reach [Arab] villages and give birth to ‘Ahmad Ben Moshe.’” A promotional leaflet boasted that the woman who runs the shelter, Rachel Baranes, has dedicated her life to “saving the daughters of Israel from the claws of the Ishmaelites,” which is a term referring to ‘Arabs’.

You would think it was the end of the world to live ‘abroad’ and marry a ‘shiksa’.

They taught us that at school. We were taught that assimilation was despicable, cowardly, treacherous to our people.

– See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/11/daughters-annihilation-intermarriage/#sthash.XZ86nBkv.dpuf
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May 12, 2017 6:06pm
Kea

No way a male sex predator would be allowed to wander around freely to molest little girls, like this evil woman !

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92524764/margaret-dodds-has-been-trespassed-from-almost-everywhere-and-couldnt-care-less
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May 12, 2017 7:08pm
rangitoto

Had to laugh at the TV1 “exclusive investigation” which turns out to be a Green party political broadcast.
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May 12, 2017 7:13pm
nasska

….”Three shepherd children in Portugal were jailed and threatened with being boiled alive in olive oil when they claimed the Virgin Mary appeared to them 100 years ago”…..

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/895994/pope-to-canonize-2-fatima-children-a-century-after-visions#ixzz4gqnWvp3X

I will not write another joke about Muslims being backward for a week.
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May 12, 2017 8:20pm
- Kea
  
  The whore Bethlehem was no virgin nasska. Your friends wrote plenty about her shenanigans and her bastard son the sorcerer and mischief maker.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvRqPzDQvTo
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:28pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”Your friends wrote plenty about her shenanigans”…..
    
    They’re no mates of mine. My stance involves wishing a pox on each & every religion on the planet. So long as one fool believes in a Skydaddy we’ll live in a world where hate & division rules.
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:33pm
    - Kea
      
      Oh dear. Bad night at the Synagogue ? They usually put on a good feed, did they run out of wine again ? 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:36pm
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      That’s a bit harsh Nasska because if religion was removed there will be heaps of people who would go through life and never get a sexual experience.☺
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:40pm
dad4justice

Talking of pox did you catch yours from playing with a maggot ridden parrot?
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May 12, 2017 8:37pm
- nasska
  
  You don’t sound very happy tonight Dad.
  
  Get your foreskin caught in the glory hole? 🙂
  
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  May 12, 2017 8:41pm
  - dad4justice
    
    I am very happy Hillbilly I am yet to decide who is more fucked in the head; you, mouldy, stiffyboy, slum green or that deranged cot case parrot?
    
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    May 12, 2017 8:43pm
    - nasska
      
      The parrot is a taonga Dad! 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:46pm
    - stigie
      
      Don’t leave me out Dad, i love being fucked but not around Hagley Park you understand..?
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:49pm
      - dad4justice
        
        stigfly sorry I forgot you, can you get over the Hagley Park stuff, as it’s a bit boring now ,because Chris T is dead with Aids and Peter D is visiting the park near you.
        
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        May 12, 2017 8:53pm
    - Kea
      
      “I am yet to decide who is more fucked in the head; you, mouldy, stiffyboy, slum green or that deranged cot case parrot?”
      
      Now how is that going to look in your Parole report Dad ? 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2017 8:58pm
stigie

This Peter chap, is he a good friend of yours Dad..?
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May 12, 2017 8:57pm
- Kea
  
  “Hagley Park stuff, as it’s a bit boring now ,because Chris T is dead with Aids”
  
  Is there something dad is not telling us ? 🙂
  
  Clearly it was more exciting, down the park, before poor Chris passed on.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:00pm
dad4justice

Where was Peter working around that time ? One guess eh. Say no more.

“2001 Former male prostitute Christopher Truscott held in “secure” care (he has escaped many times) in Christchurch after being prosecuted in 1999 for having unprotected sex with four men. Intellectually impaired, Truscott seemed unable to comprehend the implications of his HIV infection.”
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May 12, 2017 9:03pm
- Kea
  
  Where was MadDad working around that time ? One guess eh. Say no more.
  
  Dad seems awfully worked up and frustrated about all this. I think he might have loved Chris and is sad Chris is in Heaven now. With God.
  
  Some in the gay community had become aware of the arrested man’s behaviour more than a month ago and had tried to get officials to act. Frustrated by a lack of response they went public with their concerns on the GayNZ website.
  
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  May 12, 2017 9:13pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”Chris is in Heaven now. With God”…..
    
    I hope that some of our Godbothering friends mentioned in their prayers that the little bender was HIV positive.
    
    That’s all we need. A heaven full of cherubs & angels rotted out with AIDS. 🙂
    
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    May 12, 2017 9:24pm
    - Kea
      
      nasska, go easy on MadDad. He is clearly grieving Chris’s passing to the other side and is not his usual affable self.
      
      At least as a religious man Dad can take comfort in the certain knowledge Chris the, AIDS ridden faggot-whore, is sitting with Jesus in Heaven tonight 🙂
      
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      May 12, 2017 9:30pm
mikenmild

Republican Senator trolls everyone – suggests Merrick Garland would be a great choice as next FBI Director:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/11/mike-lee-merrick-garland-for-fbi-head.html
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Word of the day
Hompaddock
A sorry state of affairs: offence was given – or was it taken? – thanks to PM’s failure to foresee the effect of his choice of words
Point of Order
“Trans & Pregnant” – Biology trumps gender ideology
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
A MIRACLE
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
AUKUS under Trump is a political problem for National, not Labour
The Daily Blog
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on the US elections.
Kiwipolitico
How Trump crushed Obama’s legacy
NZCPR
This will not end well
Offsetting Behaviour
Top 14 Predictions for Round 10
Stats Chat
Pretty (il)legal
Croaking Cassandra
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker
Angie Warren-Clark: Meet the Newbies
Dan Moskovitz

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