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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/mar/22/global-warming-is-increasing-rainfall-rates#comment-95374239
A new study looks at the complex relationship between global warming and increased precipitation. Prof John Abraham, U St Thomas

[summary] The world is warming because humans are emitting heat-trapping greenhouse gases. We know this for certain; the science on this question is settled. Humans emit greenhouse gases, those gases should warm the planet, and we know the planet is warming. All of those statements are settled science.

Air will get moister as the Earth warms, provided there is a moisture source – so more intense rainfalls and snow events – and increased risk of flooding.

But warmer air can also more quickly evaporate water from surfaces. This means that areas where it’s not precipitating dry out more quickly. In fact, it’s likely that some regions will experience both more drought and more flooding.

At the highest temperatures, heavy precipitation events decrease. There appears to be an increase of precipitation with temperature up until a peak and thereafter, more warming coincides with decreased precipitation.

A new clever study made a surprising discovery. Peak temperature (the temperature where maximum precipitation occurs) is not fixed in space or time. It is increasing in a warming world. [graph]

There is a shift such that more intense precipitation occurs at higher temperatures, while the drop-off moves to even higher temperatures. There’s a strong relationship between the peak temperature and the precipitation rates – precipitation rates are increasing 5-10% for every degree C increase. The expected rate of increase, just based on thermodynamics is 7%.

In the tropics, there’s more than a 10% increase in precipitation for a degree Celsius increase in temperature. Precipitation releases latent heat, which can in turn invigorate storms.

In the United States, there has been a marked increase in the most intense rainfall events across the country. This has resulted in more severe flooding throughout the country.
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-heavy-precipitation
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March 23, 2017 8:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  On the stroke of eight, the village idiot strikes again.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:16am
  - jims_whare
    
    I think he takes his meds at 08:05 so has a moment at 08:00 where he is let lose on an unfortunate kiwiblog community.
    
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    March 23, 2017 10:38am
  - Biscuit
    
    We need a Kiwiblog roster, Captain Mainwaring.
    
    One of us gets to write some brilliant, witty opening General Debate post and the rest of us run interference, whether by electronic means or simply banging on his door to distract him, to prevent WoO from stopping that brilliant, witty post getting in first!
    
    Or am I getting petty, ha?
    
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    March 23, 2017 1:56pm
- mandk
  
  ” … the science on this question is settled”
  
  OK then, we can stop giving out research grants for “climate science”.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:33am
- krazykiwi
  
  The world is warming …
  
  At the moment, yes. Choose a different period and it’s cooling. Choose another and it’s warming.
  
  …because humans are emitting heat-trapping greenhouse gases.
  
  There is no science, zero, zip, nada that can successfully separate the multitude of currently known climate factors from anthropogenic ones. And there are likely to be many, many as-yet undiscovered factors.
  
  the science on this question is settled
  
  No it isn’t. To say the science is settled is to tacitly admit that it’s not science at all. It’s dogma.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:36am
  - jonar
    
    Choose a different period and it’s cooling. Choose another and it’s warming.
    
    It’s the rate of change that is important.
    
    To say the science is settled is to tacitly admit that it’s not science at all.
    
    Rubbish. It’s settled due to the evidence that backs it up.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:30am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Show me the irrefutable science that separates natural climatic variations from anthropogenic inputs.
      
      Unfair demand, because you can’t. No one can.
      
      The science is not settled, and the more we learn, the more unknowns we discover.
      
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      March 23, 2017 9:51am
      - jonar
        
        So explain if we’re not affecting the climate why we’ve never found another period with a rate of change that we’re seeing now.
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:07am
      - krazykiwi
        
        I said natural and anthropogenic signals can not be separated. This means the extent of any human impact is completely unknown.
        
        On what basis do you assert that “we’ve never found another period with a rate of change that we’re seeing now”?
        
        Around 1580 (in the middle of the little ice age – the period Mann tried to remove from estabished history) temperatures dropped at a much fast rate than they’re climbing today.
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:18am
      - jonar
        
        On what basis do you assert that “we’ve never found another period with a rate of change that we’re seeing now”?
        
        https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarming/page3.php
        
        Using this ancient evidence, scientists have built a record of Earth’s past climates, or “paleoclimates.” The paleoclimate record combined with global models shows past ice ages as well as periods even warmer than today. But the paleoclimate record also reveals that the current climatic warming is occurring much more rapidly than past warming events.
        
        Re. the little ice age.
        
        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120130131509.htm
        
        Scientists suggest that the Little Ice Age was triggered by an unusual, 50-year episode of four massive volcanic eruptions. This led to an expansion of sea ice and a related weakening of Atlantic currents that caused the cool period to persist for centuries.
        
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        March 23, 2017 11:16am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @jonar
        
        You need to read a wider selection of climate-change papers.
        You will discover that the present bout and rate of warming is not unprecedented.
        http://notrickszone.com/2017/03/09/30-new-2017-scientific-papers-crush-the-hockey-stick-graph-and-global-scale
        
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        March 23, 2017 11:31am
      - krazykiwi
        
        jonar, thanks for linking to the Nasa page. It highlights a recurring theme from the confirmation-bias afflicted scientists who are paid to pedal the alarmist case, and in this instance sullying the good name of their employer. A couple of points:
        
        1. In this instance the text invites you to believe that the measured warming in the last 100 measured years, subsequently extrapolated over 5,000 years is greater than any proxy 5,000 period from 10s of thousands of year ago. In short, Nasa provides no data to substantiate their claim
        
        2. Beware paleo-climatologists bearing data. One of the more famous corruptions of the data because the inputs didn’t show the desired warming was the Yamal tree ring ‘research’.
        
        Upon careful investigation, McIntyre and McKitrick discovered fundamental statistical method errors so profound that even random numbers fed into Mann’s program would produce a hockey stick curve.
        
        That wasn’t all. The Medieval Warm Period which occurred about one thousand years ago and the Little Ice Age (not a true Ice Age) between about 1300-1850 somehow turned up missing.
        
        And as for those Yamal tree samples, they came from only 12 specimens of 252 in the data set… while a larger data set of 34 trees from the same vicinity that weren’t used showed no dramatic recent warming, but warmer temperatures in those Middle Ages.
        
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        March 23, 2017 3:31pm
  - Random T Person
    
    People are nature, so anthropogenic causes, even if happening, are merely nature taking its course. Go nature :).
    
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    March 23, 2017 11:04am
    - wiseowl
      
      On Face TV last night I caught a very good piece fronted by Patrick Moore.
      The science is not settled and in this piece he covered the warming and cooling issues in a very descriptive but simple way.
      Well worth watching but I don’t know why it was on or what the programme was.
      Seemed very random.
      oops.Reported someone by mistake.
      
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      March 23, 2017 11:58am
oldpark

In London the” Quran” strikes again? surely not? who would believe it?.
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March 23, 2017 8:03am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Lone wolf, mentally disturbed, a good boy really just turning his life around, all the usual platitudes to be trotted out rather than say anything negative about the death cult religion.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:11am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Newstalk ZB has already had news headlines suggesting this was a “lone wolf attack”.
    
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    March 23, 2017 8:20am
    - Rich Prick
      
      Lone wolf? If reports of Islamic wackjob Abu Izzadeen being the terrorist are correct, I suspect he has plenty of mates quite ready to kick off as well. I hope not, but we all know it’s as sure as night follows day that there will be more of them itching for their 72 virgins.
      
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      March 23, 2017 9:57am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        ’72 virgins’ is a disputed translation, it might well be 72 grapes, or raisins:
        http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/01/the-great-koran.html
        The Koran says martyrs going to heaven will get “hur,” and the word was taken by early commentators to mean “virgins,” hence those 72 concubines. But in Aramaic, hur actually meant “white” and was commonly used to specifically mean “white grapes.”
        
        The exact number of virgins (or raisins) is not specified in Koran, but the number 72 comes from a quotation of Muhammad recorded in one of the lesser-known Hadith. (“Hadith” is an Arabic word meaning traditions.) After Muhammad’s death, several collections of his deeds and sayings were collected to form the Hadith, which is the second most authoritative document is Islam, after the Koran.
        
        The philologist “Christoph Luxenburg”, (who always uses a pseudonym for security reasons) notes that grapes would actually make more sense, because the text compares them to crystal and pearls, and because contemporary accounts have paradise abounding with fruit, especially white grapes.
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:08am
      - Rich Prick
        
        So, they kill infidels for a box of raisins? I’m sorry, but what a fucked up religion.
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:17am
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        On upside it means that all we need do to halt Islamic terrorism is hand out a few million boxes of sunmaid raisins.
        
        UrbanNeocolonialist Nobel Peace Prize 2018?
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:29am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        I like the slightly sullied rasin I have at home, most definitely one out of the box
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:51am
      - Jack5
        
        Boy, wouldn’t there be some pissed off suicide bombers.
        
        Into their hands are placed a carton of ever-renewing raisins, and they are told: “This is your treat for the next 3 billion years … no, this was always the promise – what are you burbling about, “beautiful virgins”? Just go through the gates please. Next!”
        
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        March 24, 2017 12:12am
  - CHFR
    
    And when that doesn’t work he will become a drug addict and not at all representitive of Islam.
    That said I really do think there is a difference between Muslims based on where they come from a Malaysian Muslim is very different to a Pakistani Muslim etc.
    
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    March 23, 2017 8:24am
    - Paulus
      
      But, But, But – No virgins
      Not worth the hassle for a bunch of 72 grapes.
      
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      March 23, 2017 11:02am
    - JeffW
      
      That said, Saudi money is tending to increase Wahhabism and the malignancy which goes with it across the entire Islamic world.
      
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      March 23, 2017 9:24pm
- EAD
  
  Here is the best cartoon I’ve seen so far.
  
  It’ll no doubt be labelled as “far right hate”
  
  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0608a7321b74e32be7323f12326f2885b8f05b878f0a2d7aac82e4d413f2cce7.jpg
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:41am
  - RF
    
    Beautiful. Sadly true.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:21am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Islamic car of peace.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:53am
- jims_whare
  
  I see the media are describing the attacker as an ‘Asian man’ in his 40’s.
  
  I have 50 cents that says that this ‘Asian’ happens to originate from one of a number of Middle East countries where followers of the prophet(iphile) are in the majority.
  
  The msm – distorting the truth since 1785.
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:41am
  - JeffW
    
    Pakistani would be my interpretation.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:25pm
Manolo

One thing for sure: Today on KB we can expect a spirited defense of “peaceful and lovely” Islam from the stephieboy brigade.
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March 23, 2017 8:05am
- Keeping Stock
  
  No we can’t. The Stephieboy brigade has been given time out on the naughty step.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:20am
  - sooty
    
    The whole lot are on the naughty step, because of the actions of one! Will he be taken around the back of the bike shed?
    
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    March 23, 2017 8:37am
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Again? What for this time? Surely not more porn.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:02am
    - krazykiwi
      
      http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/general_debate_22_march_2017.html#comment-1895878
      
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      March 23, 2017 9:28am
  - Rich Prick
    
    I have this image of a pasty bloke sitting in a darkened basement room refreshing the General Debate page every minute or so, and turning redder and redder with impotent rage at every new comment on Islamic terrorism. And I just smile a little bit.
    
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    March 23, 2017 10:10am
- itstricky
  
  One thing for sure:
  
  KBers will wax lyrical about who the offender is without having any knowledge or evidence.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:22am
Nostalgia-NZ

A couple of things have changed about the Dotcom case in the last few weeks in my opinion. Firstly, it was on Yahoo recently that a Filipino man, who was charged with American copyright offences, settled with the authorities for 34 million before being accepted as a NZ citizen last year. This week’s John Banks decision clearly show that the COA accepted Dotcom as a credible witness who immediately accepted that he had been mistaken about the dates of the meeting where the 2 men discussed donations. To some degree Banks disadvantaged himself from the former position he was in with this appeal, but may have advantaged Dotcom. In between these 2 events NZ Courts held that the copyright offences Dotcom faces are not offences in NZ but that however, the money laundering charges are. So, that puts more considerations on the table, should Dotcom be encouraged to settle with the American authorities ( even with the consent of NZ authorities) as the Filipino man did before moving onto become a NZ citizen? It would appear he at least should be given the opportunity, or be encouraged to do so. Lastly, I’ve been wondering about the situation as it stands now, of Dotcom facing charges and deportation that arise out of events that are not crimes in NZ, if that is fair or just? Herr Dotcom is not a favorite subject here, but nevertheless these are relevant issues.
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March 23, 2017 8:10am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I would be happy to see Dotcom settle with the US authorities, but the sum involved would have to be very, very significant.
  
  One the matter of his extradition is dealt with, the Government could then revoke his residence on the grounds that he knowingly provided false information about his convictions in New Zealand, then he could be deported.
  
  One no account however could he EVER be considered for New Zealand citizenship. He fails the good character test by a wide margin.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:33am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    And, he is very very wide!
    
    (Sorry Kimbo, I just could not help myself!)
    
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    March 23, 2017 10:58am
    - Kimbo
      
      No, no need to apologise. Indeed, I thank you for contributing to making Kimbo’s law* a meme.
      
      But just as satire is not a breach of Kimbo’s law, so neither is hyperbolic repetition because it is…hyperbolic repetition. And as KDC is ~~indeed~~ (unnecessary adverb!) large, the repetition of the adverb “very” was needed to convey the extent, and also mirror Keeping Stock’s original comment, “the sum involved would have to be very, very significant”.
      
      * in blogworld the validity of an argument is in inverse proportion to the excessive and unnecessary use of adverbs”
      
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      March 23, 2017 11:11am
Inandout

This clip is a study in how insane the US left has become. Tucker is so exasperated at the complete denial of this official that his city as a ‘sanctuary’ is sliding into chaos. Illegals seemingly have pushed the murder rate in Baltimore skywards. You will hear lots of ‘amazing diversity’.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5367662183001/?#sp=show-clips
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March 23, 2017 8:20am
waikatogirl

Young woman playing the 9 out 10 game on TV3.

Q: Name 9 present and past NZ PM’s.
A: John Key, Helen Clark……. blank………
Q: asked who do you think the current PM is?
A: As far as I know it is John Key
Told JK had resigned and left Parliament.

Young woman says, I thought it would be that guy from New Lynn, David Cunliffe (name supplied by Duncan), Yes, thats the one she said!

Told PM is Bill English and she replied, “I don’t know who that is”.

Unbelieveable!! ?

She gets to vote in September!!!
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March 23, 2017 8:21am
- kowtow
  
  And she gets to vote?
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:22am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Most likely have reproduced by now as well given her apparent awareness
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:25am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Yes, as you predict she had a 9 month old.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:03am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Just the one?
      
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      March 23, 2017 10:59am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Yet she gets to vote, and her vote is worth exactly the same as yours and mine…
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:29am
- G152
  
  Did you actually watch TV3?
  Was it that thing after the fake news segment?
  Your BS tolerance is so much higher than mine
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:32am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Use it to wake up while I have a good strong cup of coffee. ?
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:05am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I would rather lick the wall socket
      
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      March 23, 2017 11:01am
- waikatosinger
  
  She gets to vote, but with that level of disinterest I doubt that she will.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:34am
- Kimbo
  
  There is something to be said for a country with ordinary people with that level of political ignorance and indifference. After all, in highly-politicised nations, they tend to shoot one another. Just ask yourself – “what would NZ look like with 4.5 million Kiwiblog obsessives?”. Scaaaaaaary 😉
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:54am
cmm

Stuff still trying to give Hager’s book CPR:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/90745985/nicky-hager-brings-spirited-conversation-to-nelson-cafe

A whole day after the massive release and he’s still pulling a crowd of “about 100”.

Red Shed 99c here we come.
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March 23, 2017 8:24am
- sooty
  
  That’s good news! When the royalty gets split two ways, they each get bugger all. That’s better news! Working for less than minium wage!
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:42am
  - cmm
    
    “Working for less than minium wage!”
    
    You call that working?
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:13am
- Happychappy
  
  As much as labour and the Greens think they can win Nelson /Tasman people don’t forget the treatment dished out to Stan Whitehead and Mel Courtney by Labour to end there careers as MP’s for the District.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:50am
- alex Masterley
  
  The meeting was in Nelson where there seem to be a fair few nut jobs.
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:05am
- Fletch
  
  They were breathlessly reporting on it in the headlines of 1 News last night, complete with timelines of when what happened etc. I couldn’t believe it. You’d have thought they’d have learned after the last damp squib before the election but they’re right into it again.
  
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  March 23, 2017 11:30am
Happychappy

Why do the media get them selves in total delight when Nicky Hager produces a book that he hopes will influence the voting public to his choice of Government, They publish a story about the crowd that turned up in Nelson and jam packed the venue with people that had to stand at the back of the hall, the crowd was just over a hundred and they were delirious with the chance to meet Hager. Just over one hundred people in Nelson is 0.2127 of the Population of the City and how they think this will change the vote in Nelson is beyond belief.
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March 23, 2017 8:37am
- cmm
  
  Hardly a hall. It’s a cafe.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:14am
  - Liberty
    
    If he filled the Trafalgar centre like Muldoon did. I would be concerned.
    Granted those were the days before Muldoon became a dictatorial twat.
    
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    March 23, 2017 11:47am
sooty

Nelsons entire population of fruit loops, snowflakes, left wing liberals, never was and wanna bes.
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March 23, 2017 8:45am
- stigie
  
  Good grief, are we sooty..?
  
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  March 23, 2017 1:44pm
  - sam green
    
    Except you stigie.
    
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    March 23, 2017 3:26pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Gee Sam are you you OK it’s unlike you to show what a soft friendly person you are.
      
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      March 23, 2017 3:56pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Satan broadcasts a porn film on Islamic TV
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39359115
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March 23, 2017 8:46am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Yeah sure, it was that Satan guy. The tricky trickster.
  Let me guess; a sudden decline in rapes occurred as a result?
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:05am
Ross12

It really is a circus in DC but it looks like the knives are out —(still lots of if, buts and maybes.) Popcorn time.

“Update: House Intel Chairman Nunes spoke to reporters when he left the briefing at The White House and had some more stunning things to say:

*NUNES: BRIEFED PRESIDENT ON CONCERNS OVER INCIDENTAL COLLECTION
*NUNES: `PRESIDENT NEEDS TO KNOW’ THESE INTEL REPORTS EXIST
*NUNES: SOME OF WHAT I’VE SEEN SEEMS TO BE `INAPPROPRIATE’
*NUNES: TRUMP, OTHERS IN TRANSITION PUT INTO INTELLIGENCE REPORT
*NUNES: QUESTION IS IF TRUMP SHOULD BE IN THESE `NORMAL’ REPORTS
And the punchline: there are “multiple FISA warrants outstanding against Trump” Nunes also told reporters: ”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-22/nunes-trump-transition-members-and-possibly-trump-himself-were-under-surveillance-du
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March 23, 2017 8:58am
- VicParking
  
  It has come out that Trump was “accidentally” monitored for three months and that transcripts were distributed. I think the FBI director should be buying a cardboard box.
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:00am
krazykiwi

It looks like Le Pen dished out some treatment to Macron, her less experienced rival.

Mr. Macron, 39, has advanced more by offering a fresh face than by political savvy, and Ms. Le Pen, 48, sought to exploit his vulnerability, forcing him to define himself in opposition to her strident positions. She accused Mr. Macron of supporting the burkini the full-body swimsuit at the center of a rancorous debate last summer over displays of the Muslim faith.

We’ve got Islamists in our country,” Ms. Le Pen said. “The demands are incessant,” she said, citing food and clothing.

An unsettled Mr. Macron shot back: “I’m not putting words in your mouth. I don’t need a ventriloquist.

Today’s Westminster attack probably won’t have damaged Le Pen’s campaign.
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March 23, 2017 8:59am
- G152
  
  And for some strange inexplicable reason the British police protect these murderous swine..
  The question is Why ????
  Time to wrap them up and send them back to their particular hellholes.
  And do the same with the muslimes
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

President Erdogan warns Europeans and Westerners
“If you continue to behave like this, tomorrow in no part of the world, no European, no Westerner will be able to take steps on the street safely and peacefully,”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/erdogan-warns-europeans-risk-being-unsafe-feud-rages-001641623.html

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/03/22/515251/Germany-Steinmeier-Erdogan-Turkish-success
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March 23, 2017 9:03am
- Scorpion
  
  “tell your dictator President he can go to hell along with his ISIS terrorists, I will make Syria a ‘Big Stalingrad’ for him!”
  
  Some one should tell him to sit down
  SHUT THE F**K UP
  
  ALL EUROPE MIGHT JUST BECOME A BIG
  STALINGRAD FOR YOU
  
  AND YOUR SAVAGE SCUM
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:52am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Another troll identity from the Kea stable.
    
    See my list below for a number of the others.
    
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    March 23, 2017 10:21am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    So, you are using your own identities to uptick yourself.
    
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    March 23, 2017 11:05am
cmm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/90751329/london-attack-is-latest-in-which-vehicles-are-used-as-weapon

Time to ban automatic cars
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March 23, 2017 9:16am
- dime
  
  you mean attack drones?
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:41am
Stars And Stripes

Students’ white supremacist poster rips image from Surf Lifesaving NZ
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/90745133/white-supremacist-poster-rip-images-from-surf-lifesaving-new-zealand.
“The image is the same as that which heads the Summer Appeal campaign on the Surf Life Saving New Zealand (SLSNZ) website.”

We did not authorise it’s use, yeah yeah whatever surf life saving you bunch of nasty racists.
I have seen how you always let black people drown at the beach and how you fly white pride flags on the club house.
Time they were banned as a hate group?.
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March 23, 2017 9:17am
- EAD
  
  What is “supremacist” about a poster that says “White lives matter”?
  
  Have they not noticed a huge campaign accompanied with riots and violence over in America with a similar campaign name?
  
  But apparently a poster is “supremacist” – what a ghastly usage of the English language.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:24am
  - itstricky
    
    Oh, I don’t know EAD. Let me think…
    
    I could be completely wrong but maybe it has something to do with a history of slavery, oppression and racism?
    
    But you just keep going with your silly “touch the surface” rationalisations.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:28am
    - Longknives
      
      Because only White people have ever been involved in Slavery and Racism eh Itstricky?
      
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      March 23, 2017 9:44am
      - itstricky
        
        No, but EAD has used an example of Black Lives Matter, which is what I am also referencing.
        
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        March 23, 2017 9:54am
    - cmm
      
      Everyone was involved in slavery. Whites were the first people to stop slavery, so if anyone should get “brownie points” about slavery it should be white people.
      
      In USA:
      * Free blacks had black slaves too.
      * Black lives matter apparently, but not to blacks. Blacks kill blacks more than anyone else does.
      
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      March 23, 2017 2:14pm
- itstricky
  
  whatever surf life saving you bunch of nasty racists
  
  You’re really scrapping the bottom of the barrel this morning. Nothing better going on?
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:29am
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Not really as I finished off the cat which was annoying me a while back and the lesbians two doors down shifted last week so pretty quiet here.
    
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    March 23, 2017 9:46am
EAD

Incredible coincedence – Police in London were practising a highly publicised mock response just a couple of days ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/19/massive-anti-terrorism-drill-on-thames-cruise-ship
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March 23, 2017 9:21am
- itstricky
  
  GASP!
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:26am
- cmm
  
  Not really a coincidence.
  
  British cops, SAS etc do a lot of training.
  
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  March 23, 2017 2:16pm
JasonJohns

There’s a lot of hysterically anti-slavery nonsense around today. Cultural Marxists push it. For a balanced view of the pros and cons of slavery see
the book Southern Slavery, As it was
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/slavery/southern_slavery_as_it_was.htm

The belief that the typical slave was poorly fed is without foundation in fact. There was no deficiency in the amount of meat allotted to slaves. On average, they consumed six ounces of meat per day, just an ounce less than the average quantity of meat consumed by the free population. The high consumption of meat, sweet potatoes, and peas made the slave diet not only adequate, but it actually exceeded modern recommended daily levels of the chief nutrients.36

The clothing of slaves, though not lavish, was fairly standard for what the average free white man would have had. Many slaves had far better clothes than poor whites.

On the question of shelter, the most systematic housing information comes from the census of 1860, which included a count of slave houses. These data show that on average there were 5.2 slaves per house on large plantations. The number of persons per free household was 5.3. The single-family household was the rule.37

The quality of housing varied. Comments of observers suggest that the most typical slave houses of the late ante bellum period were cabins about eighteen by twenty feet. They usually had one or two rooms. Lofts, where the children slept, were also quite common. Windows were not glazed, but closed by wooden shutters. Chimneys were of brick or stone. Building material was either logs or wood. Floors were usually planked and raised off the ground.

Such housing may sound mean by modern standards but actually compared well with the homes of free workers in the ante bellum era. The typical slave cabin probably contained more sleeping space per person than was available to most of New York City’s working-class in 1900.38

The medical care was good. Generally, the slaves received the same medical care the family received. The doctor attending to the slaves was usually the same doctor who ministered to the planter’s family. Good medical care is reflected in the statistics for life expectancy. U.S. slaves had much longer life expectations than free urban industrial workers in both the United States and Europe.
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March 23, 2017 9:51am
- Tirebiter
  
  Sounds so good I have to ask: When are you going to sign up to be somebody’s slave?
  
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  March 24, 2017 3:09am
Stars And Stripes

Long-haired boy’s challenge to Auckland Grammar to scrap its above-collar hair rule
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11823481.

I think maybe the mum should be looking more into the schools rules around transgender students as the kid looks pretty feminine.
Maybe Epsom Girls would be a better choice.
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March 23, 2017 9:51am
- JasonJohns
  
  In the army they would sort him out.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:54am
JasonJohns

May a Christian own slaves, even when this makes him a part of a larger pagan system which is not fully scriptural, or perhaps not scriptural at all? Provided he owns them in conformity to Christ’s laws for such situations, the Bible is clear that Christians may own slaves.

Let as many bondservants as are under the yoke count their masters worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and His doctrine may not be blasphemed. And those who have believing masters, let them not despise them because they are brethren, but rather serve them because those who are benefited are believers and beloved. Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing… (1 Tim. 6:1-4a).

The slavery of Rome was anti-scriptural, and because of the evil of the slave trade, the larger system of slavery in the South was certainly sub-scriptural. Nevertheless, the Bible prohibits us from saying that slave-owning in such contexts is sin.

The Bible teaches that a man may be a faithful Christian and a slave-owner in a pagan slave system. If he owns slaves, then Scripture does put a series of requirements on him, which the church of Christ may and must insist upon.

But beyond those requirements, the church may not presume to legislate.
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March 23, 2017 9:52am
- Lucia Maria
  
  Jason Johns,
  aka, Kea,
  aka realityczech,
  aka Kriss X,
  aka the Legio XII/Witness duo and several others,
  is trolling.
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:05am
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Witness
    
    Well this was fun. I had loads of fun! No, really I did!
    
    Now, I need to consult my special friend. Did you have fun LegioXII?
    
    Legio XII
    
    “Now, I need to consult my special friend. Did you have fun LegioXII?”
    
    I DID have fun witness! Can you believe how gullible to idiots on this blog are???
    
    Witness
    
    “I DID have fun witness! Can you believe how gullible to idiots on this blog are???”
    
    I know! But, you know, it’s what happens when you have no job and no life, and spend your time on a fucking blog all day pretending that your pontifications are actually important when in reality we live in a universe that does not give a flying fuck about some insignificant bugs on an insignificant spot of dirt.
    
    Shall we move on now?
    
    Legio XII
    
    Yes witness, I think so. Hey, take a look at B.L.Zeebub, he is still buying into it! What a fucking tool!
    
    Lets leave with some music though, some real wisdom for all the poor fools here.
    
    Burp. Hiccup.
    
    Legio XII
    
    Nothing matters. We are just dust in endless space.
    
    Here endeth the lesson
    
    Witness
    
    Nothing matters. We are just dust in endless space.
    
    Here endeth the lesson
    
    Link to page 2 where this happened in December 2015. Go back a page to see Witness trolling, telling everyone they will burn in hell, and then being surprised that repentance might be needed because of the trolling.
    
    I have no doubt that the Kea stable of identities has at least 10 that could be used to down tick me. But I’m guessing more in the realm of 20 to 50. Most will be on ice, for now. Don’t want to burn them all at once.
    
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    March 23, 2017 10:57am
    - Stars And Stripes
      
      Well I will put my head on the chopping block and say that I don’t believe these people you mention as trolls are controlled by Kea as looking at their styles, grammar, obsessions, spelling and so on they vary widely.
      Some definitely look like the same person alright but I’m sure there are heaps of people in the world capable of trolling besides the suspect you nominate.
      As for having 20-50 identities I don’t even think that an unemployed bum would have the time or energy to do that I’m afraid.
      
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      March 23, 2017 11:45am
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Stars and Stripes,
        
        I’ve been commenting here at Kiwiblog since 2005 or 2006. More than enough time to notice the build up in patterns of behaviour.
        
        And to notice the occasional slip-up, such as the time that Kriss X and Kea got confused about which comment should be made by which identity. The comment was quickly deleted, but in that short window, I saw it.
        
        Which identities don’t you believe are connected?
        
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        March 23, 2017 11:56am
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        Scorpion and Beesting for starters.
        Same person but nothing to do with all the others in my opinion.
        
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        March 23, 2017 12:08pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        I’d forgotten about Beesting. That’s another one.
        
        Ok, so the Scorpion/Beesting personas are very specific and limited in their interactions on the blog. I can’t remember why I connected them to the whole stable, but I’ll keep them in mind in order to prove their involvement.
        
        BTW, I look forward to another rant by Kea on how evil I am.
        
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        March 23, 2017 12:15pm
Lucia Maria

Heads up, everyone with an iPhone!
Change your password and turn on 2-factor authentication!

Hackers threaten to wipe 200 million iCloud accounts unless Apple pays ransom

HACKERS who claim to have control of at least 200 million iCloud accounts have issued a public demand to Apple: pay ransom or we wipe them all.

The hacking group calling itself the Turkish Crime Family has provided video evidence of its claims to the tech site Motherboard, with a demand to Apple that it pay the ransom or face the consequences.

The hackers have listed the price of the ransom as either US$75,000 ransom in Bitcoin or US$100,000 in iTunes gift cards.

While the demands seem both outlandish and alarming, Motherboard confirms it has seen screenshots of emails appearing to be communications between the hackers and Apple’s security team.
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March 23, 2017 9:58am
- krazykiwi
  
  The hackers have listed the price of the ransom as either US$75,000 ransom in Bitcoin or US$100,000 in iTunes gift cards.
  
  Bitcoin: Virtually untraceable
  iTunes: Interpol on your doorstep in seconds
  
  Not too smart, these hackers.
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:22am
Jack5

Great cock-up on TVNZ news last night. Kiwiblog poster Hugh Pavletitch and Oliver Hartwich, the German born and educated head of the NZ Initiative were switched in pictures.

These guys would be fairly far apart in ideology. We know what Hugh Pavletitich thinks. He’s in the blog often.

The NZ Initiative is the cheerleader for big immigration into NZ.

Members (that is backers) of the NZ Initiative think tank include the Australian-owned mainstream NZ banks, the Japanese-owned Lion breweries, Google, Vodafone, and Imperial Tobacco.

Interesting local backers include taxpayer-owned Kiwibank and the NZ Government majority-owned Air NZ.

Then there are the co-operatives Fonterra and the North Island Foodstuffs supermarkets (the South Island Foodstuffs markets remain independent).

Tainui Group Holdings, representing Waikato Maori interests, is another surprising backer, given that the immigration which NZ Initiative champions, further ethnically re-engineers NZ.
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March 23, 2017 10:00am
- mikenmild
  
  If you look at Croaking Cassandra (on DPF’s blogroll), he does a very good critique of the NZ Initiative’s rosy take on immigration.
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:24pm
Jack5

Could this be what President Trump is on about when he talks about US intelligence services bugging the Trump campaign?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/22/trump-team-communications-captured-by-intelligence-community-surveillance-nunes-says.html
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March 23, 2017 10:14am
- Fletch
  
  Yep –
  
  House Intelligence Committee chair Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) announced on Wednesday that he had learned that members of President Donald Trump’s transition team had been under surveillance by the Obama administration, that individual names had been “unmasked” by the intelligence community, and that those names had been leaked to the media.
  Nunes’s information — which he said he would deliver to the White House later — vindicates the bulk of Trump’s claims earlier this month.
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/22/nunes-unmasking-report-vindicates-trump-claims-surveillance/
  
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  March 23, 2017 11:35am
  - cha
    
    So, did Nunes leak classified information about a Trump connection to an ongoing investigation into potential enemies of the state?.
    
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    March 23, 2017 11:44am
    - All_on_Red
      
      So, when Comey briefed Obama (Comey confirmed the briefings yesterday)and others in his Administration about the investigation, did those people leak it to the Press?
      I see Trey Gowdy is on the trail of the person who leaked about Michael Flynn- a Felony punishable with up to 10 years in jail.
      
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      March 23, 2017 12:22pm
  - Garbageman
    
    Wow it just got quiet in here the usual suspects that cry lies impeach etc have suddenly become rather noticeable by their absence
    
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    March 23, 2017 11:49am
Meatloaf

Istricky doesn’t like the idea of White lives matter. Well let’s take a look at things from this angle. From 1789 to 1913, the USA a nation predominantly established by Europeans, had three taxes, a tax on imported goods, domestic made goods and property tax.

In almost every year their was a budget surplus. In only a few years their were deficits, war years, and cause of the debt from the Civil War their was a small income tax of less than 5% to help pay down the debt. Now if that’s not an accomplishment I don’t know what is. Compare the amount of taxes their are these days, and yet still there are budget deficits in nation after nation. And now Gareth Morgan wants to tax people on their homes when they retire, they will be forced to sell their houses.

So it should be smaller taxes matter, cause everybody hates taxes.
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March 23, 2017 10:25am
Meatloaf

And while we are on the topic, its the inventions of Americans that save people time, making slavery obsolete. Slavery was before America, and it was stopped in America.
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March 23, 2017 10:32am
- Pateke
  
  You are a little off the mark there. Slavery abolished in England 1837, continued in America, and throughout Africa and the Middle East and many parts of Asia–some continue to this day. Only America stopped its slavery system following the Civil War.
  
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  March 23, 2017 11:08am
  - Tirebiter
    
    Lincoln only stopped slavery as a military necessity – not as a moral imperative. While he may not have personally supported the institution, he didn’t think that it was the US government’s role to outlaw it.
    In 1863 he signed the Emancipation Proclamation to free only the slaves in the south hoping to enlist them to turn on their masters. Some did, most didn’t. Make of that what you will.
    Slavery was still allowed in the north until the end of the war. With elections coming up in 1864 he wanted to break the military stalemate in 1863 and decided to make war on the southern society as well as the southern military to shorten the war that killed 600000 Americans and still divides the US.
    
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    March 24, 2017 3:24am
EAD

A picture paints 1,000 words:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d3094528667934cb432c177c7ad601bf377701443727d201d178a4bcd4ee1ba9.jpg

I saw this picture just after Theresa Marxist May was on the news reading her prepared speech talking of democracy and how London is a city of differing races/religions who come together to celebrate the diversity and freedom of speech etc etc etc, Jesus even when the truth is laid bare these bastards still carry on regurgitating the same old marxist Frankfurt school bullshit.
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March 23, 2017 10:35am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Perhaps she is just replying to friends/family that she is safe.
  Sometimes too many people hanging around a scene of trauma/destruction just get in the way of those providing help.
  
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  March 23, 2017 11:11am
Manolo

Australia’s attempt at protection:
More than 500 Iraqi and Syrain refugees bound for Australia have been denied entry after their names appeared on an international security watchlist.

The news comes after the Federal government announced it has welcomed 10,000 Syrian refugees and issued another 2,000 visas to people fleeing the war-torn Middle Eastern country.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4338898/More-500-refugees-barred-entering-Australia.html#ixzz4c5pExcYX
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March 23, 2017 10:37am
- Rich Prick
  
  So 5% are bad bastards? Sounds about right, although the margin of error is probably about +10%.
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:48am
Meatloaf

EAD you may be interested in this. Look at my review,

https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Political-Economy-Illustrated-Stuart-ebook/dp/B01LXV6HBL/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1490218761&sr=1-1&keywords=principles+of+political+economy

John Stuart Mill argued that so many economic problems including Malthus’ overpopulation concern would be solved by increasing the amount of capital equipment per worker. This is the opposite policy to opening the flood gates to immigrants, unless those immigrants come in with money and put that towards capital equipment.

Yet to restrict immigration is called racist.
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March 23, 2017 10:43am
- mikenmild
  
  John Stuart Mill of his own free will
  On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:30pm
- EAD
  
  Very good write up Meatloaf – I don’t feel like I’d need to buy the book after reading that!
  
  Mill obviously wrote is book in a different time and age and his findings hold true in that type of world.
  
  A world of infinite paper money produced as a debt as well as large scale migration make the world and economic theory Mill talks about seem very quaint and simple but the basic laws still apply.
  
  As to your point on immigration – there are 2 main fatal misconception that seem to dominate Political debate:
  – that population growth for population growth’s sake is good. Smaller countries, on average are far wealthier per head of population than larger countries. Why? Because their is less corruption, more accountability, more sense of community and economic activities are more specialised which means work is done higher up the value chain.
  
  – that we need more immigrants “to do the jobs” we can’t fill. This is wrong on so many levels but especially when those “vacancies” are not being created by capital accumulation but rather debt growth (borrowing from the future). Eventually the number of jobs must contract alongside the debt bubble and when that does happen, wages ratchet lower across all jobs as what supported them was illusory. As wages are “sticky”, what this normally means is mass unemployment. This phenomenon is why Key has had to double down on immigration and borrowing (although it has shifted from Public to private) to keep the illusion going
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:05pm
Stars And Stripes

Number of stranded whales successfully refloated plummets, DoC figures show
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11823863.
“The number of stranded whales being successfully refloated has plummeted in recent years, new figures show.
The survival rate was 70 per cent in the 1990s, and now it’s about 45 per cent, figures released to NZME from the Department of Conservation (DoC) show”.

I don’t find this unusual as during the same time period the amount of obese slobs at the seashore tripled as well.
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March 23, 2017 10:47am
JasonJohns

Lucia I am the voice of the majority at Kiwiblog.

Look how many upticks I get.

The Kiwiblog community is sick of being told it can’t say the truth about the differences between races the historically progressive role of slavery and the need to destroy Islam.

I am alt-right and so is the majority here.
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March 23, 2017 11:31am
- Kea
  
  The down-voters are unemployed. You will get lots of upticks latter, though the evil one might call DPF and have you banned.
  
  Back to work for me.
  
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  March 23, 2017 1:05pm
JasonJohns

Tommy Robinson hero ready for action in London
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/former-edl-leader-tommy-robinson-arrives-scene-london-terror/

We need a race realist like him in NZ.
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March 23, 2017 11:33am
Lucia Maria

Oh dear, more bad news for Trump

AP Exclusive: Before Trump job, Manafort worked to aid Putin

WASHINGTON (AP) — Before signing up with Donald Trump, former campaign manager Paul Manafort secretly worked for a Russian billionaire with a plan to “greatly benefit the Putin Government,” The Associated Press has learned. The White House attempted to brush the report aside Wednesday, but it quickly raised fresh alarms in Congress about Russian links to Trump associates.

Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and former Soviet republics to benefit President Vladimir Putin’s government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse.
…

Manafort and his associates remain in Trump’s orbit. Manafort told a colleague this year that he continues to speak with Trump by telephone. Manafort’s former business partner in eastern Europe, Rick Gates, has been seen inside the White House on a number of occasions, helped plan Trump’s inauguration and now runs a nonprofit organization, America First Policies, to back the White House agenda.

From CNBC, more of a summary of the story.

President Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned.
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March 23, 2017 11:49am
- All_on_Red
  
  Whoop de Doo.
  Trump hired Manafort in April 2016. When some of this info came out in August he was promptly fired.
  So Trump acted quickly to remove him.
  So, no, no bad news for Trump.
  You are so desperate.
  Hey, seen the latest about John Podesta? Lol.
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:25pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Actually just like how Flynn was quickly fired.
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:40pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      And Trump came out and said Flynn did nothing wrong.
      
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      March 23, 2017 12:53pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Manafort was replaced aka fired.
        So what if Trump speaks to him?
        There is no evidence of any collusion between Trump and the Russians. Despite all the now well known surveillance.
        
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        March 23, 2017 1:25pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Trump said he had confidence in Flynn and then about an hour later he was fired.
        Sheesh.
        
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        March 23, 2017 1:26pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Gosh, All On Red
        
        You are like Trump’s little yappy dog interference guy.
        
        No pausing for breath or taking in new info, it’s just yap, yap, yap.
        
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        March 23, 2017 3:10pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Manafort was not fired, he just tried to become wallpaper. And were you in such a hurry to reply to me that you didn’t notice the part of the article I posted that said:
    
    Manafort and his associates remain in Trump’s orbit. Manafort told a colleague this year that he continues to speak with Trump by telephone. Manafort’s former business partner in eastern Europe, Rick Gates, has been seen inside the White House on a number of occasions, helped plan Trump’s inauguration and now runs a nonprofit organization, America First Policies, to back the White House agenda.
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:56pm
- Manolo
  
  Ah, the Russophobe never misses one. 🙂
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:43pm
- Kea
  
  “Oh dear, more bad news for Trump”
  
  Trump is more popular now than ever. He does not care about the [fake] “news” and no one with any integrity does.
  
  He has already fulfilled most of his election promises and has prevented another dangerous cold-war with our Russian friends.
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:51pm
JasonJohns

Fake news.
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March 23, 2017 11:53am
JasonJohns

2 facts about Trump

1. He eats losers for breakfast.

2. He has the vision to complete his mission.
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March 23, 2017 11:54am
- Kea
  
  Yes he does JasonJohns aka me LOL 🙂
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:58pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Interesting comment from Maggy Wassilieff last week, who apparently knows you as a real person, in regards to people masquerading as others:
    
    Kea can multitask….
    
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    March 23, 2017 4:01pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      No Lucia Maria,
      
      I don’t know who Kea is..
      but there had been some mention on this thread by a couple of commenters that Kea is a female.
      
      and of course – females multitask.
      
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      March 23, 2017 4:06pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Maggy,
        
        You don’t know Kea?
        
        I’ve always remembered you being the one that confirmed Kea was a certain physics researcher.
        
        Maybe I misunderstood. I’ll have to find the comment.
        
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        March 23, 2017 4:37pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Lucia Maria
        
        You are very wrong.
        
        Dennis Horne and Griff have named Kea as a female Physicist who once ran a theoretical physics blog site under the pseudonym Kea.
        
        I found some old links.. but don’t know the person.
        The site was full of maths/fantasy physics that I couldn’t begin to comprehend.
        
        I tried a “cunning query” to Kea once about some aspect of abstruse physics to try and figure out if KB’s Kea is the theoretical physicist.. but his/her response was sort of meaningless.
        
        If KB’s Kea is this female theoretical physicist, then I’m mightily impressed…. I’ve never met a theoretical physicist who has as much knowledge about ecology/biology as our Kea has.
        
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        March 23, 2017 6:05pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Maggy,
        
        Maybe it was just the accumulation of comments over the years, that were like the multitasking comment. An apparent statement of fact as if you knew him/her.
        
        Then there was one that stood out to me, that you admired Kea’s fiery intellect. Can’t find that one, and in part, I blame the new paging system, hiding comments over multiple pages. It’s stuffed up the searching.
        
        Chiz is absolutely certain he knows who Kea is, you might find this thread interesting.
        
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        March 23, 2017 7:43pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Lucia Maria
        
        What the dickens are you playing at?
        
        I’ve just done a search back through this blog to determine how I first came across the possible identity of this Kea/physicist person… and it was you that had put out her name…
        
        It was from 2013.
        Does that ring a bell?
        
        I can post the link, but how ethical is that?…..
        This Kea person had denied she was KB’s Kea
        
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        March 23, 2017 7:47pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        For what it’s worth no doubt in my mind Kea is a middle aged male.
        
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        March 23, 2017 7:59pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Lucia Maria
        
        yes,
        I have read all that Chiz/Tom Hunter stuff.
        
        Obviously, that is the same person we are talking about.
        But I learnt her whole name from one of your posts.
        
        Actually, I wont post the 2013 link….
        I don’t think is a safe site.
        
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        March 23, 2017 8:06pm
      - Kea
        
        Maggy has shown her intellect once again.
        
        All of this speculation is fueled by bottom feeders who have nothing convincing to say about the issues I raise. Evil filth like LM are an offence to any decent mind, I should hardly need to point that out to those capable of understanding
        
        I am not this person. Its just a bunch of nested coincidences:
        
        http://kea-monad.blogspot.co.nz/
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:25pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It would be really quite sad if Kea were permanently banned for calling another commenter ‘evil filth’.
        Never mind, he always has his other aliases.
        Sad!
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:32pm
    - Kea
      
      It would be really quite sad if ~~Kea~~ milky were permanently banned for calling ~~another commenter~~ Hitler and child molesters ‘evil filth’.
      
      Note LM has denied official accounts of the holocaust and fiercely defended anti Slavic and Semitic Hatred in the Ukraine, both here and on her hate/conspiracy site.
      
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      March 23, 2017 10:40pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        Kea,
        
        Note LM has denied official accounts of the holocaust and fiercely defended anti Slavic and Semitic Hatred in the Ukraine, both here and on her hate/conspiracy site.
        
        That is a total lie.
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:47pm
      - Kea
        
        Why bitch about it here ? Have you written to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, Jerusalem Post, Times of Israel, with your denial ?
        
        Because they are the sources I cut and pasted.
        
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        March 23, 2017 10:54pm
AgentBallSack

I am not surprised Key left when he did. It’s becoming pretty obvious Five Eyes was used to spy on Trump at the behest of other nations, as Obamas bosom buddy, Trump would be looking at Key pretty closely.
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March 23, 2017 12:16pm
- mikenmild
  
  Doesn’t that rather assume that Trump knows who John Key is, or what New Zealand is?
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:32pm
  - AgentBallSack
    
    Lets hope he doesn’t and it stays that way.
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:49pm
  - dime
    
    the Don could sustain a bad head injury and still be smarter than you milky
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:54pm
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      Does that thing on top of his head already count as an injury?
      
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      March 23, 2017 12:59pm
      - dime
        
        dunno, but he chick who gives him head is hotter than anything you could ever get..
        
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        March 23, 2017 1:10pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Did you know that when Donald Trump bangs a supermodel, he fantasizes about masturbating?
        
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        March 23, 2017 1:12pm
All_on_Red

‘Rep. Louie Gohmert, an outspoken House Republican from Texas, is calling for a congressional investigation of John Podesta’s role with Rusnano, a state-run company founded by Russian President Vladimir Putin’
‘Podesta — Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign chairman and former President Bill Clinton’s White House chief of staff — first made contact with the Russian firm in 2011, when he joined the boards and executive committees of three related entities’
‘One potential legal problem for him relates to the time he joined former President Barack Obama’s White House staff in 2014 as a senior counselor and failed to reveal his 2011 Joule stock vesting agreement in his government financial disclosure form.
Further, he failed to disclose 75,000 common shares of Joule stock he received, as disclosed in a WikiLeaks email.’
Three months after Podesta’s arrival, Joule Unlimited accepted a 1 billion ruble investment from Rusnano, amounting to $35 million in U.S. currency. The firm also awarded a Joule board seat in February 2012 to Anatoly Chubais, Rusnano’s CEO, who has been depicted as a corrupt figure.’
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/21/exclusive-podesta-was-board-member-of-firm-linked-to-russian-investors/#ixzz4c6Ij58XJ

Oh dear. Podesta, DNC, Clinton, Obama, Putin, non disclosures , corrupt Russians.
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March 23, 2017 12:33pm
- mikenmild
  
  Louie Gohmert – snigger.
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:35pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    mikenmild- snigger
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:37pm
  - dime
    
    hillary clinton – snigger
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:55pm
SPC

Huxley was right? Birds descend from (one branch of) dinosaurs?

And the earliest dinosaur fossils are found to be on the island of Britain.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39305750
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March 23, 2017 12:42pm
Kea

Another terrorist attack killing over 30 innocent people !

Coalition will investigate own airstrike that reportedly killed 30+ civilians in Syria – Pentagon
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March 23, 2017 12:46pm
- dime
  
  tragic, just tragic lol
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:55pm
  - Kea
    
    Yeah next one might hit Israel lol.
    
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    March 23, 2017 12:59pm
SPC

Post-election communications of Donald Trump’s team were swept up in an “incidental collection” by intelligence agencies, a Republican lawmaker says.

House intelligence committee chairman Devin Nunes said individuals were named in “widely disseminated” reports, which he said was “totally inappropriate”.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39358363
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March 23, 2017 12:46pm
- SPC
  
  1. US intelligence agencies regularly monitor foreign individuals of interest, so if a member of the Trump transition team – or Donald Trump himself – communicated with a person under surveillance, it’s likely those interactions would be recorded (as per Flynn).
  
  That would constitute “incidental”, legal surveillance as described by Devin Nunes in his press conference on Wednesday afternoon. What that means, however, is open to interpretation. Trump supporters may point to this “startling revelation”, in press secretary Sean Spicer’s words, as evidence that the president correctly suspected his communications were being intercepted. They will also probably question who “unmasked” the names of Trump advisers, when the default is to avoid revealing the identities of US citizens communicating with monitored foreign nationals.
  
  2. Mr Nunes said the incidental collection was legal but his main concern was that people involved had been unmasked in the reports.
  However, Mr Schiff said it was “fully appropriate” to give the names of US citizens “when it is necessary to understand the context of collected foreign intelligence information”. What Mr Nunes had revealed did not indicate that there was any flaw in the procedures followed by the intelligence agencies, Mr Schiff added.
  
  3. The intelligence collection, which took place mainly in November, December and January, was brought to the attention of Mr Nunes by an unnamed source or sources.
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39358363
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:56pm
- Komata
  
  SPC
  
  ‘Incidental’? Really?
  
  Perhaps the oxymoron about ‘American Intelligence’ might have a foundation after all.
  
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  March 23, 2017 3:32pm
SPC

Twenty-sixteen saw a “dramatic” decline in the number of coal-fired power stations in pre-construction globally.

According to the authors of the study, the slowdown brings the possibility of keeping global warming under 2 degrees C since pre-industrial times “within feasible reach.”

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39342818
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March 23, 2017 12:51pm
- All_on_Red
  
  Or ECS is only around 1.3C as some current research indicates.
  The IPCC in AR5 gives a band of 1.5- 4.5C
  
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  March 23, 2017 1:04pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Or the climate-alarmists are beginning their backtrack.
  The temperatures are not rising anywhere as fast as all the global models predicted.
  Numerous scientific papers have now been published in the last couple of years that show warming in the last century is not global, and is not unprecedented.
  
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  March 23, 2017 2:42pm
Kea

Lucia Maria

Jason Johns,
aka, Kea,
aka realityczech,
aka Kriss X,
aka the Legio XII/Witness duo and several others,
is trolling.

I have enough trouble remembering one password !

This raving nut job thinks two or more people agreeing is a “conspiracy” unless they share her particular hatreds and prejudices, of which she has many.
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March 23, 2017 12:55pm
- SPC
  
  Why are they no longer posting while you are back on as kea?
  
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  March 23, 2017 12:58pm
  - Kea
    
    I don’t know… oh wait… they are retard and on this very thread. Shows how well informed your comments are.
    
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    March 23, 2017 1:00pm
    - SPC
      
      The last post was an hour before the name kea turned up.
      
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      March 23, 2017 1:03pm
      - Kea
        
        Using that logic, you must be Hitler, because we have not heard from him lately.
        
        It shows the level you bottom feeders work on.
        
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        March 23, 2017 1:07pm
      - SPC
        
        When did you last hear from him while you were on Kiwiblog?
        
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        March 23, 2017 2:19pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Well, that reminder will get Kea right on to it.
    
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    March 23, 2017 1:01pm
    - SPC
      
      His interactions between aliases will be slow though as he has to log off and back on to do it.
      
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      March 23, 2017 1:09pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Not if you use different browsers or run Google incognito.
        
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        March 23, 2017 1:49pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  I’m not the raving nutjob.
  
  From the Kiwiblog’s Comment Policy Page:
  
  Kea 1st strike – 2/10/14, 2nd strike – 4/10/14, 1st warning – 16/10/14, 2nd warning – 17/10/14, 3rd strike – 22/10/14, 4th strike – 24/11/14, 5th strike – 22/12/14, 6th strike – 6/2/14, 7th strike – 19/4/15, 8th strike – 27/7/15, 9th strike – 23/2/16
  
  I won’t copy all the links here, so if anyone would like to see the circumstances of Kea’s multiple bans over the years, each date has a link that will take you to the offending comment(s).
  
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  March 23, 2017 1:00pm
  - Kea
    
    Yes great. I encourage people to see the reasons I have been banned. I want people to see it first hand.
    
    I am proud of standing up and doing what is right. Every ban is a badge of honour and I do not care if I am permanently banned.
    
    Of course a moral cripple could never understand that.
    
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    March 23, 2017 1:12pm
    - Lucia Maria
      
      Of course, you don’t care if you are banned, you have so many other identities you can run with. This one must be tiring, having to fly off the handle with it at me, constantly. Risking banning.
      
      Yes, I saw the dance with words yesterday. You didn’t quite connect up the accusations so that each one by itself wasn’t clear on who was being denounced.
      
      Don’t worry, I won’t dob you in. I don’t think I’ve done a Kea dob-in since one of the middle strikes, when you really, really annoyed me. Since then, it’s always been someone else.
      
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      March 23, 2017 3:15pm
Stars And Stripes

Bank of NZ to bring in nuclear free, tobacco free investment policy
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11823983.
“Bank of New Zealand has developed a responsible investment policy which excludes companies involved in the production of cluster munitions, anti-personnel mines, nuclear weapons and tobacco or tobacco products from its international equity holdings, it said”.

But does the BNZ also invest in companies which are guilty of bigotry by not employing a quota of refugees, are discriminatory by not supporting transgender employees, are racist because they have more whites than blacks on the staff, produce alcohol which is a major contributor to rape culture and finally not support halal businesses so are islamophobic?.
If the answer to any of these questions is yes then sorry it’s back to the drawing board.
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March 23, 2017 12:58pm
- Paulus
  
  I am concerned at the degree of political interference in Kiwi Saver and what the Managers are told to do in terms of investment ie who and where they can invest.
  I am hearing various left wing politicians saying that the Government must interfere in this.
  I was under the opinion that the Government (including Cullen) had and wanted nothing to do with where the Kiwi Saver put their money.
  I keep reading that it is up to the saver where “THEY” decide where their investments should go.
  If they want a restricted investment policy then find a manager that does this and they then must expect a lower rate of return on their money.
  Keep Government out of KiwiSaver – its not their money.
  
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  March 23, 2017 1:40pm
Kea

I see the SPC/Lucy/Milky/ztev/stephieboy entity is talking to itself LOL 🙂
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March 23, 2017 1:15pm
- Lucia Maria
  
  Yeah, like that is going to work.
  
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  March 23, 2017 2:29pm
- EAD
  
  I see the SPC/Lucy/Milky/ztev/stephieboy entity is talking to itself LOL
  
  Post of the day!
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:30pm
SGA

Hat tip to the UK MP, Tobias Ellwood, who did his best to save that policeman’s life at Westminster.
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March 23, 2017 1:56pm
Biscuit

Anyone look at WhaleOil today?

The site owner, who could quite EASILY play Kim Dotcrim in a movie, is criticising Gerry Brownlee for being a Man Of Size…
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March 23, 2017 1:58pm
- Kimbo
  
  I’m intrigued that there has been nothing yet on WO directly relating to Hager’s latest book. Any suggestions why?
  
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  March 23, 2017 2:13pm
  - Stars And Stripes
    
    Probably because there are no references to resolution 2334 and Murray McCully in it.
    
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    March 23, 2017 2:32pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Outstanding point. Nor did Hager use and of Slater’s (hacked) emails. If I had a dollar for every self-promoting “I’ve been violated” post. Then again, a guy’s gotta earn a crust…
      
      But I was amused at his sarcastic post last week fare-welling John Key, and “no hard feelings” for Key cutting Slater loose over Dirty Politics. Well, Cam, you are the guy who has as one of your rules:
      
      Never hug a corpse – it smells and you end up smelling like the corpse too.
      
      https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/03/no-hard-feelings-john/
      
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      March 23, 2017 2:42pm
SPC

The odds on Northern Ireland leaving the union to become part of Eire-land are shortening.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-39328073
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March 23, 2017 2:03pm
Lucia Maria

The latest Seth Myers youtube clip

Trump’s Russia and Wiretapping Scandals Overshadow Supreme Court: A Closer Look 10:27min
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March 23, 2017 2:27pm
- EAD
  
  (((Seth Myers)))
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:30pm
Captain Mainwaring

Seems that Wellington Airport’s taking on the pilots about safety zones is going to bite them in the bum, and they might need the 350 metre extension just to provide the extra safety margin at each end for existing operations.
Worse, it looks as if Queenstown is going to be dragged in as well.
Both airports could lose jet services unless the extra safety zones are built.
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March 23, 2017 2:58pm
- krazykiwi
  
  A few years ago I asked an AirNZ pilot friend what it was like landing in Wellington in the city’s gusty northerly. He replied something like this:
  
  “The biggest risk is not getting on the ground at the right point and overshooting the runway. If that happens you, your crew and your passengers go through a fence, down a bank, across 4 lanes of traffic, slice through a set of 400 volt trolley bus lines, then large across boulders and finally into the sea. It’d ruin your whole day.”
  
  😀
  
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  March 23, 2017 3:51pm
Lucia Maria

The latest John Schindler piece

Putin’s Chekist Cover Has Been Blown

At every stage of their secret operation to influence our 2016 election, Russian spymasters could have used more subtle methods—for instance employing clean hackers who were unknown to Western counterspies or putting stolen emails online on a fresh new website—yet chose not to. This smacks of bravado and more than a little confidence that Washington would do little if anything to push back against Moscow—an assessment that proved sadly accurate.

To be fair to Putin, why would he not feel confident that he could get away with his brazen spy-game? He took the measure of Barack Obama and saw a man he could push around, so he did. Moreover, the Kremlin managed to convince millions of gullible Americans that the thief and defector Edward Snowden, who has lived in Russia since mid-2013 under the protection of Putin’s thuggish FSB, is actually an American patriot and defender of civil liberties. People dumb enough to buy that Moscow lie might fall for anything Putin threw out there, no matter how absurd.

…

Yet Putin’s boastful unwillingness to hide his aggressive spy-game against American democracy was ultimately unwise. Monday’s Congressional testimony makes it clear that our Intelligence Community is fully aware of what the Kremlin was up to in 2016—and that their far-reaching investigation into Russian interference will eventually go public.

Love how Brietbart, Infowars etc is going to be investigated as well.
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March 23, 2017 3:02pm
- SPC
  
  Snowden is a patriot of the free world, thus the irony that for exposing the lies of the “leader of the free world” he is no longer safe in it.
  
  Russia leveraged safe haven for him to undermine confidence in the free world governments regime (global market/immigration/EU/US led NATO policy).
  
  And in such an environment paranoia about Russian propaganda grew/grows. And so does Russian bravado.
  
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  March 23, 2017 3:43pm
Maggy Wassilieff

TVNZ discussing more staff cuts
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11823990
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March 23, 2017 3:04pm
Stars And Stripes

Pasifika urged to ban sugary drinks
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/327282/pasifika-urged-to-ban-sugary-drinks
“Auckland’s Pasifika Festival should follow Te Matatini and Polyfest and ban sugary drinks, a health advocacy group says”.

Ban sugary soft drinks and you get fights.
Ban bongo vans and you get a riot.
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March 23, 2017 3:04pm
- Manolo
  
  Pasifika should be urged to ban stupidity and ignorance. That would go a long way towards solving the problem.
  
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  March 23, 2017 3:12pm
  - nasska
    
    “Pasifika should be urged to ban stupidity and ignorance”…… & religion. It is the trifecta that condemns them to poverty & huge families that they cannot afford.
    
    Add in not remitting money they don’t have back to the Islands & before long they would be able to live like first world people.
    
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    March 23, 2017 3:42pm
Tauhei Notts

Mine Host,
May I suggest that you give some consideration to adding Olivia Pierson’s blog to your Blogwatch list. I have seen her on the Channel 85 Stirring The Pot programme. The woman is awesome.
What a welcome change from the usual whining women. And she is easy on the eye as well!
Gorgeous.
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March 23, 2017 3:33pm
Lucia Maria

US Officials: Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians

Washington (CNN)The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, US officials told CNN.

This is partly what FBI Director James Comey was referring to when he made a bombshell announcement Monday before Congress that the FBI is investigating the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, according to one source.

The FBI is now reviewing that information, which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings, according to those U.S. officials. The information is raising the suspicions of FBI counterintelligence investigators that the coordination may have taken place, though officials cautioned that the information was not conclusive and that the investigation is ongoing.

It’s getting hot!!
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March 23, 2017 3:41pm
- SPC
  
  Campaign chairman Paul Manafort
  
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39350007
  
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  March 23, 2017 3:48pm
- Don the Kiwi
  
  CNN ????
  
  Come on Lucia. You surely cannot believe them as a reliable source. They are a bunch of journalistic warped demented cripples.
  
  There is no Trump/Russia conspiracy.
  
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  March 23, 2017 5:05pm
  - mikenmild
    
    The man who frequently links to Prager ‘University’ doubts that CNN is a reliable source…
    
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    March 23, 2017 5:38pm
  - Lucia Maria
    
    Don,
    
    They’ve been pretty reliable so far. And I thought posting a CNN article would get some going. 😛
    
    If “There is no Trump/Russia conspiracy, then it seems odd that it’s being investigated. Or, are you confident that nothing will be found? Even though Manafort is under investigation, Flynn has already resigned and Sessions has recused himself because of the Trump/Russia conspiracy?
    
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    March 23, 2017 5:39pm
    - SGA
      
      Fake swamp, drain the news, nothing to see here people, move on.
      
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      March 23, 2017 6:15pm
    - Fletch
      
      Nunes said, “…none of this surveillance was related to Russia or the investigation of Russian activities or of the Trump team.”
      
      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/22/devin-nunes-trump-and-transition-team-members-surveilled-not-in-connection-to-russia/
      
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      March 23, 2017 7:27pm
      - Lucia Maria
        
        And Breitbart is being investigated as well. They’ll be spinning for all it’s worth.
        
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        March 23, 2017 7:48pm
      - cha
        
        Dubya’s man calls it.
        
        FBI uncovering evidence of treason. There is no other word for it.https://t.co/JLY7KZfQIY— Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) March 23, 2017
        
        Federal investigators are examining whether far-right news sites played any role last year in a Russian cyber operation that dramatically widened the reach of news stories — some fictional — that favored Donald Trump’s presidential bid, two people familiar with the inquiry say.
        
        http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article139695453.html
        
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        March 23, 2017 7:51pm
Stars And Stripes

Equal pay legislation welcomed by Human Rights Commission
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11824175.
“Women would get information about pay rates in their workplace to test if there is gender-based discrimination, under new legislation welcomed by the Human Rights Commission.
A private member’s bill by Green Party MP Jan Logie has been drawn from the ballot.
It would make all employers include gender when recording information about pay rates for different roles in their workplace”.

More bureaucratic legislation being forced on employers and society by bitter lesbians and other man haters.
Consign it to the garbage where it belongs.
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March 23, 2017 5:11pm
Don the Kiwi

So Trump and his team weren’t “wire-tapped ” eh??

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/22/trump-team-communications-captured-by-intelligence-community-surveillance-nunes-says.html#

They were definitely “surveilled”.
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March 23, 2017 5:30pm
- cha
  
  “I SAID I WAS BEING WIRETAPPED!!
  
  “They hoovered up your team by chance while they were investigating potential enemies of the state.”
  
  “CLOSE ENOUGH!
  
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  March 23, 2017 5:33pm
nasska

Slimebucket Barack can add using his country’s secret services to spy on a political adversary to his CV.

That is the dead rat the socialists have to dine on.
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March 23, 2017 6:00pm
DifferentPerspective

No post from DPF re the Terror Attack in London?

The significant news/political event in the world today and nothing from Kiwiblog???

There are some problems of course with mentioning the danger of welcoming a 6th century death cult into an otherwise peaceful nation:
a) National is gradually opening the doors to the parents of NZ’s future mass murderers as part of their Labour Lite strategy on refugees
b) It makes opposition to Trump’s travel ban look pretty bad
c) It continues to make Brexit look like a damn fine idea
d) Bit of a bummer about Hillary being sponsored by muslims

Come on Mr Farrar – you are one of the few voices of reason on most things – where’s your head at about this appalling apocalypse being slowly wrought by ~~muslims~~ “asians”?

The evidence is overwhelming, if there was a need for science on this issue – it’d be damn settled!
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March 23, 2017 6:32pm
- nasska
  
  Get real. DPF posted on it at 5.06 this morning!
  
  http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/terrorism_strikes_westminster.html/comment-page-1#comment-1896118
  
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  March 23, 2017 6:36pm
- SPC
  
  Fake news.
  
  http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/terrorism_strikes_westminster.html
  
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  March 23, 2017 6:37pm
- mikenmild
  
  What an egg…
  
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  March 23, 2017 6:54pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Oh wow – what a fail by me!
  
  In which case – well done for being so incredibly on the ball!
  
  I apologise and withdraw Mr Farrar. Please forgive me!
  
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  March 23, 2017 7:42pm
cha

No post from DPF re the Terror Attack in London?

Yeah, not a sausage.
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March 23, 2017 5:06am by David Farrar
Terrorism strikes Westminster

Stuff reports:

The British Parliament is in lockdown after a police officer was stabbed and witnesses reported seeing a car hit a number of pedestrians in a serious and still unfolding incident in central London.

London’s Metropolitan Police confirmed an incident at Westminster Bridge, outside the British parliament, on Wednesday (Thursday NZ Time) which they are treating as a “firearms incident”.

UK Commons Leader David Lidington has told MPs a “police officer has been stabbed” and the “alleged assailant was shot by armed police” following a “serious” incident within the parliamentary estate.

Terrible news. Hopefully there are no fatalities amongst the pedestrians or the Police.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/terrorism_strikes_westminster.html
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March 23, 2017 6:40pm
krazykiwi

TVNZ proposal would mean job losses

Even without reading the proposal I know it won’t be a sufficient number of job losses.

The figure of 100% springs to mind.
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March 23, 2017 6:43pm
Steve (North Shore)

Without reading all of the soft cock liberal’s comments today I post this:
Get ready. Here are the steps
1. This has nothing to do with Islam and he does not represent Islam
2 claim to be the religion of peace
3. It’s blow back for the west being in the Mideast.
FFS the Mayor of London said ‘this is a big city and these things happen’ (paraphrased)
Um the Mayor is muslim, but that is the standard response to a mass killing????
4. The guy was a mentally ill ‘.
5. It is ”lone wolf attack”.
6. It’s just part of living in a big city
7 claim Christians do these things too
8. Those who object are racist bigots.
9. Change Facebook profile to flag of inflicted country.
10. Light some candles, hold a vigil and go on a peace march.
11. Claim Muslims are the real victims.
12. Wait for the next Islamic terrorist attack to happen.
13. Go back to 1. Repeat as needed.
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March 23, 2017 6:48pm
- cha
  
  That’s very good but you didn’t think that up all by yourself, did you, Stevie.
  
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  March 23, 2017 6:52pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    No dick cha, I am a dumbarse, copy and paste. I just think along the same lines.
    Which of those 13 do you like? or dislike? son
    
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    March 23, 2017 7:06pm
    - cha
      
      Is it hard to say I saw this over at so and so and I really do agree with every word, link to the source, and post whatever the fuck you like?.
      
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      March 23, 2017 7:16pm
- mikenmild
  
  FFS the Mayor of London said ‘this is a big city and these things happen’
  
  Fake news tweeted by Donny Trump Jr.
  
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  March 23, 2017 6:58pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    For that you get no ticks Mike.
    Stop masturbating, Jacinda has a partner and it’s not you.
    Sorry Mike, but if you start then I will double down, be a good boy OK?
    
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    March 23, 2017 7:09pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Stop masturbating…Sorry Mike, but if you start then I will double down.
      
      That’s a bit creepy. When you masturbate, what do you imagine I look like?
      
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      March 23, 2017 7:34pm
    - itstricky
      
      Stop masturbating, Jacinda has a partner and it’s not you.
      Sorry Mike, but if you start then I will double down, be a good boy OK?
      
      That’s a bit creepy.
      
      Meanwhile, on the other channel, 100 KBers write letters to the speaker about how Steffan Browning is a nasty creep.
      
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      March 23, 2017 8:25pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        I thought it was only one letter writer but hey a bit of exaggeration helps to make a good comment.
        
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        March 23, 2017 8:30pm
      - itstricky
        
        You didn’t seriously think I meant 100 writers, did you?
        
        A bit of artistic license, my friend, to combine the 100+ comments on the thread with the (seemingly) 100 commentators who all have an opinion on the “nasty creepy lefties” mixed in with KS’ 40+ upticks for his letter and 60+ upticks for “downing” ztev.
        
        Biggest numbers I ever seen. He’s not an offended snowflake…he’s a hero. Oh, whoops, there’s more artistic license.
        
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        March 23, 2017 8:56pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        No that’s cool I will remember that one for the future.
        Exaggeration is now artistic licence or maybe even alternative facts.
        
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        March 23, 2017 9:03pm
      - itstricky
        
        Do you need some tips on fiction versus non-fiction, and the contexts in which they get used?
        
        I suggest watching a few comedies, to get your reps. up before diving into the heavy stuff such as trying to decide whether Trumpie is just pulling your teat when he tweets “I was bugged!”
        
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        March 23, 2017 9:34pm
      - Stars And Stripes
        
        No I realise fiction when I see it.
        In fact it appears most times you post something.
        
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        March 23, 2017 9:48pm
  - Fletch
    
    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/new-york-explosion-sadiq-khan-says-terror-attacks-are-part-and-parcel-of-life-in-a-big-city-a3347891.html
    
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    March 23, 2017 7:38pm
  - EAD
    
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html
    
    Looks like us “far-right” (i.e. normal people) are right and Milkmaid is making shit up again.
    
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    March 23, 2017 7:42pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Hah – you didn’t even read the story in your own link.
      
      In an interview about anti-terrorism, he ‘said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city”.’
      
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      March 23, 2017 8:21pm
      - itstricky
        
        Not sure why EAD is quoting… the…(GASP)…the…
        
        (((………………………………………THE………………………………………………………………………………………………..M.S.M……………………………………………………….)))
        
        anyway?
        
        Can we have one of Kimbo’s Laws for every time someone says “The MSM is left wing biased crap” and then proceeds to use the MSM in their arguments?
        
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        March 23, 2017 8:28pm
stigie

Easy Milky, you will get the rest of us going..?
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March 23, 2017 7:37pm
nasska

…..”what do you imagine I look like”…..

Medium height, medium weight, averagely dressed median appearance wearing grey shoes, long shorts & a cardigan.

Why did you ask? 🙂
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March 23, 2017 7:41pm
- stigie
  
  Im way off Nasska, i had Milky with a long ginger beard, tablecloth shirt, cardigan and sandles..?
  
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  March 23, 2017 7:46pm
  - nasska
    
    Could you put a recent photo up to settle the argument Mike? 🙂
    
    ( Average size & 50/50 quality okay. )
    
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    March 23, 2017 7:48pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      Average size & 50/50 quality okay
      
      Are you referring to the photo or the photographed “thing” (so to speak)?
      
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      March 23, 2017 8:16pm
      - nasska
        
        I wouldn’t want to put myself out on a limb there & answer one way or the other. Just trying keep to the middle ground,while not being too far away from the centre Nostra. 🙂
        
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        March 23, 2017 8:25pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Just trying keep to the middle ground,while not being too far away from the centre Nostra
        
        This is a political blog. No need to be shy about straying too far left, or right, old chap. We cater for all types here!
        
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        March 23, 2017 8:33pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Modesty forbids me from linking to a proper portrait, but I am in this photo:
      http://stadiums.in3sixty.com/gigapixelfancam/rugby/2011worldcup/20111023/default/
      
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      March 23, 2017 8:30pm
EAD

This will be Mikey when he is caught up in a terrorist attack:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/318cfc4eaa1439f2e1883737d88b4d6f1c902b4bc722396893b067250bbcd410.jpg
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March 23, 2017 7:44pm
- itstricky
  
  This will be Mikey when he is caught up in a terrorist attack…
  
  …right after the global financial collapse.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:20pm
rightoverlabour

Jet Star – who the hell would fly with these monkeys??

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/90791254/adele-fans-ropeable-after-jetstar-cancels-flight-to-auckland
What we need in here is a credible alternative to Air New Zealand to keep them honest. This bunch are hopeless.
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March 23, 2017 7:51pm
- Fletch
  
  I picked my brother up from the airport once when he flew Jet Star. I couldn’t find their arrival gate at first, and kept on walking along further and further to the right. At last we got to what seemed the end of the building and there it was. Kind of the metaphorical “broom closet” of the airport.
  
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  March 23, 2017 8:07pm
cha

Peak interwebs.

My new vagina almost ruined my partner’s penis

[…]

“It was like it had grown teeth,” she said. “His willy was bright red and spouting blood. There was a big red stain spreading between us on the sheets. After that, he was scared of my lady garden and approached it as if it was a Venus flytrap and he was a bluebottle (fly).”

http://nypost.com/2017/03/20/my-improved-vagina-nearly-cut-off-my-partners-penis/
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March 23, 2017 8:13pm
- pentwig
  
  Good grief! That is nearly, but not quite enough, to turn me into a gay person.
  Buggar.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:56pm
Maggy Wassilieff

What do internet trolls look like?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/mar/10/the-internet-warriors-meet-the-trolls-in-their-own-homes-video

(tldw)… but most of the “Chapters” seem to feature fatties…
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March 23, 2017 8:28pm
- Kea
  
  Where are the coloured people ? That video is racist as it does not represent minorities (who make up 92% of the global population)
  
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  March 23, 2017 10:59pm
  - Jack5
    
    👿 Good evening Kea.
    
    You didn’t watch the video closely. One of the internet trolls had an Asian wife, allowed into the UK only for six months apparently. Then a female Norwegian troll said she had an “immigrant” partner/spouse.
    
    They were a sorry bunch though, compared with the crazy fuckers who troll Kiwiblog.
    
    I wonder how the junior, teenage member of the Stephiestani syndicate is filling in time since he got the team suspended. I bet he is exploring porn sites. He will end up too cross-eyed to use a keyboard if he’s not careful.
    
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    March 23, 2017 11:57pm
nasska

A man walked into the information centre of a small town, obviously desperate.

Seeing someone at the counter, the stranger asks, “Is there a criminal lawyer in town?”

“Why yes there is sir”, says the attendant,
“but we haven’t been able to prove it yet!”
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March 23, 2017 8:55pm
Nostradamus

William of Ockham

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

Thumb up 4 Thumb down 52

Did I miss something important? Something about the end of the world is coming and we’re all doomed?
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March 23, 2017 9:08pm
- nasska
  
  Dunno Nostra. It was probably just a bit more cut & paste about the weather.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:09pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Build an ark…
  
  I think that was the central message.
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:13pm
- itstricky
  
  Did I miss something important? Something about the end of the world is coming and we’re all doomed?
  
  LOL, that’s a golden comment given your handle.
  
  Wish I could give you 100 upticks. (no S&S, I wasn’t being literal. Just in case you were wondering).
  
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  March 23, 2017 9:37pm
- Manolo
  
  No. Dennis Horne is an entertaining chap, but not well liked.
  
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  March 24, 2017 6:14am
RRM

OMG Bill English is such a social media whore.

https://www.facebook.com/pmbillenglish/posts/10155206177598982

Selfies from the Adele concert. Fucking hell.
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March 23, 2017 9:49pm
- Jack5
  
  You reckon from now on Jacinda Adern is the only MP allowed to take selfies, RRM?
  
  You better not call her a “social media whore”, though. That would not be nice.
  
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  March 23, 2017 11:52pm
RF

Not sure why Labour are crowing about Nationals vote dropping.

Labour is struggling to reach 30 and need the greens to get them over the line.

The genuine old labour members must be turning in their graves after they once had a very comfortable lead in the 40s.

Oh the shame……. slippery seconds.
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March 23, 2017 10:52pm
Jack5

The Hooerald prints an Associated Press report slating a tweet in which Donald Trump jun. criticised the Muslim Mayor of London over the latest terror attack in the city.

The report includes this:

British Member of Parliament Wes Streeting was among numerous Brits who responded to the tweet with criticism. He called Trump Jr. “a disgrace” and accused him of using a terrorist attack for “political gain.”

No problem with quoting Streeting, but readers should also be told Streeting is a Labour MP, an experienced Labour apparatchik, and a youth organisation activist. He’s a former president of Britain’s National Union of Students – elected as a Labour representative.

This is included in the Wikipedia piece on Streeting:

In March 2009 Pink News listed him as the 33rd most powerful LGBT politician in the UK.

No problem with that, but readers of the Hooerald (and of AP generally) should have been told a little of Streeting’s background. He’s highly unlikely to back a Trump junior tweet on anything.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11824345
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March 23, 2017 11:46pm
Manolo

Too late. Europe has lost the battle against the barbarians:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-security-france-lepen-idUSKBN16U0O2?il=0
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