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William of Ockham

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Man-made global warming/climate change is here now and will disrupt civilisation.

http://www.jamespowell.org
James Powell: “For 2013 and 2014, I found that only 5 of 24,210 articles and 4 of 69,406 authors rejected anthropogenic global warming, showing that the consensus on AGW is above 99.9% and likely verges on unanimity.”

Reality: Accepted by the global community of scientists as represented by the Royal Society, National Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science and every scientific institution and society on Earth …

Delusional? Please tick the right box.
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March 10, 2017 8:01am
- SGA
  
  But you’re ignoring the vast international conspiracy of scientists to extort money for personal gain. 🙂
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:05am
  - itstricky
    
    Not even the smiley face gave it away. Maybe they haven’t had their coffee yet.
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:42am
    - Griff
      
      No they really are that thick.
      
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      March 10, 2017 8:58am
- cmm
  
  But we all drowned last year just like Al Gore predicted.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:07am
  - itstricky
    
    Shit, that must mean it’s not real.
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:44am
  - kowtow
    
    And that climate refugee ,who didn’t exist when Gore made the claim was given the arse back to where he came from.
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:51am
  - RF
    
    cmm. While he drowned in his swimming pool full of money just like Scrooge McDuck.
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:11am
    - peterwn
      
      Which did not make sense anyway. The real Scrooge McDuck would have had a paddling pool only of cash if that. The rest would have been invested.
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:18am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yesterday, you asked whether extreme weather events were getting more frequent…
  the answer is no
  https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/08/24/extreme-weather-is-not-getting-worse-dr-roger-pielke-jr/
  
  (you can be damn sure, it would be splashed across headlines, all day, every day, if it was otherwise)
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:15am
  - itstricky
    
    Notalotofpeopleknowthat. Sounds like a reputable source.
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:49am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      If you visited it, you’d know that Paul Homewood is very reputable.
      Full of data…
      
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      March 10, 2017 8:50am
      - itstricky
        
        Lots of data doesn’t make something true. Sometimes it can mean the opposite.
        
        But I’m sure you know that, and it wasn’t a Freudian slip.
        
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        March 10, 2017 9:05am
      - Ed Snack
        
        But Maggie, you know that if you want to make cherry pie, you have to cherry pick the data. That’s why the alarmist “global warming” scientists don’t actually keep and provide their data, because you might just possibly find out what they’re NOT showing you.
        
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        March 10, 2017 9:35am
      - Griff
        
        Here is someone who visited Paul’s blog
        just to point out he was telling fibs .
        http://greatwhitecon.info/2017/02/not-a-lot-of-people-know-how-paul-homewood-propagates-fake-news-about-the-arctic/
        Another .
        http://dosbat.blogspot.co.nz/2015/05/the-bitter-irony-of-paul-holmewood.html
        Lots of numbers Maggy?
        ohhhh how sciencey that looks .
        To retards.
        
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        March 10, 2017 9:37am
      - Fletch
        
        Lots of data doesn’t make something true.
        
        You mean, like global warming? 😉
        
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        March 10, 2017 11:46am
- JIV
  
  Why on earth did there need to be 24,210 articles written about a science that was apparently settled. Are these the same people marching with placards because mean old President Trump might take their funding away?
  This is exactly why the opposition to AGW is growing as there is so much written in vague terms about what might happen if we don’t give all our money to the “experts”.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:16am
  - itstricky
    
    Let us pause now and take stock of Trumpie’s revelation that vaccines cause autism. Clearly the science isn’t settled on that one either?
    
    Should we expect US drug administration to lose funding any day?
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:53am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Cool – Leftard tactics 101 – the ole bait and switch approach.
      
      Ho ho ha ha – oh wait? You seriously thought that BS might work still.
      
      Gosh almighty – that’s so Clintonesque of you 🙂 so ‘failed approach of the 1990s!
      
      Wait I’ve got one for you – why are you supporting pedophiles?
      
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      March 10, 2017 9:53pm
- holysheet
  
  The difference between this year and last year is we have a pragmatic president Trump. He says no more money for the shyster pseudo scientists who for to long have had it all their own way.
  Things have changed now for the better.
  
  There are parallels with Agresearch here in NZ
  For years the scientists said zinc had no affect on facial eczema and stock. They even went as far as vilify the old lady who discovered the remedy.
  Now all farmers use some form of Zinc to help stop facial eczema. Guess who has the patent on the use of zinc in a bolus (large tablet) form ?
  Agresearch.
  
  I guess these science is settled on this just like we were told the science was settled on global warming in the early ’90s.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:17am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep, the money is running out for some of the Climate alarmists.
    The Australian Climate Institute is no longer supported and closes in a couple of months.
    http://www.climateinstitute.org.au/articles/media-releases/chair-of-board-announces-closure-of-the-climate-institute-a.html
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:26am
    - stephieboy
      
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      Maggy Wassilieff,
      
      Do vaccines cause Autism ?
      
      Yes or No ?
      
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      March 10, 2017 9:14am
      - G152
        
        No.
        Try to ask real questions
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:01am
      - Nev.
        
        Assuming you are vaccinated, yes.
        Nev.
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:04am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Not in my experience stephieboy.
        But why are you asking me?
        
        I have never posted anything supporting that view.
        
        Are you trying to smear me yet again with your slimy questions?
        
        Get it through your head…
        I am not an alt-righter
        I am not a Nazi
        I am not a racist
        I am not a homophobe
        I do not have saggy little tits.
        
        Any more filthy insinuations you want to level my way?
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:28am
      - waikatogirl
        
        Maggy, your intelligence confuses him.
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:51am
      - Griff
        
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        Dear magggy
        What you are is a climte change denying nut who post some extremely stupid dribble from some extremely suspect sources .
        
        Crank magnetism is a well documented effect for those who gibber stupid conspiracy nonsense .
        Stephieboy is just asking what other nutter conspiracy gibbering you believe in .
        rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crank_magnetism
        Do you agree with Booker that asbestos is not a health risk and evolution is rubbish for instance
        I link you with Booker because you have posted some of his nuttery on here .
        We could also include the views of Rog Tallbloke another whacko you have posted and his denial of relativity.
        Or Dr Roy and his creationist religious nonsense ?
        The physics denying dragon slayers another group you have posted dribble from?
        Roll with pigs you get shite all over you
        
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        March 10, 2017 11:01am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Stephie
        
        – The real question is does socialism cause mental retardation>
        
        Yes or NO?
        
        – oh wait the science is settled on that isn’t it – just come to KB and watch William of Ockham 🙂
        
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        March 10, 2017 9:55pm
    - realityczech
      
      Maggy is it really true what Griff says and that you don’t believe in slightly warmer weather in some places sometimes (once this 15 years cooling period finally ends) ?
      
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      March 10, 2017 1:05pm
  - Liberty
    
    Trump might not be around for long.
    But he has done some good.
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:33am
    - holysheet
      
      7.5 more years long enough?
      
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      March 10, 2017 8:40am
      - Liberty
        
        He will be lucky to last a term.
        
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        March 10, 2017 8:47am
      - MCos
        
        He certainly hasn’t been acting as though he’s feeling particularly lucky to be lumbered with the job.
        
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        March 10, 2017 8:57am
      - Fletch
        
        I want to see him last at least long enough to have Obama locked up…
        
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        March 10, 2017 11:51am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Hillary as an encore would be good as well
        
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        March 10, 2017 1:37pm
      - SPC
        
        Victims of ODS demonstrate that right wing blogs are not effective group therapy.
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:19pm
  - itstricky
    
    shyster pseudo scientists
    
    Do vaccines cause autism?
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:07am
    - Ed Snack
      
      No, but I’m sure if a sufficiently “authentic” lefty intellectual said they did you’d be first onto that bandwagon.
      
      The original vaccine/autism scare in fact closely models climate science tactics. The original research used data selected using invalid criteria (post result snooping) and the “scientist” had a political agenda. And it took a long time to disprove because he wouldn’t release his data.
      
      The parallels with climate alarmism are remarkable.
      
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      March 10, 2017 9:40am
      - trout
        
        Just be a bit careful about this one. Sure, the scientist who wrote the original paper on the relationship between vaccination and autism has been discredited and vilified. But it would not be the first time that a scientist has had a hunch and tried to prove it by fudging the numbers (global warning anyone). In my life I have knowledge of a teenager that developed autism after vaccination. Yes, there could be other causes but the ‘science is not settled’.
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:06am
      - Griff
        
        Yes Ed
        it has taken a long time .
        But not quite as you gibber.
        Considering climte change is supported with basic indisputable physics .
        
        1824
        Fourier calculates that the Earth would be far colder if it lacked an atmosphere.
        1859
        Tyndall discovers that some gases block infrared radiation. He suggests that changes in the concentration of the gases could bring climate change.
        1896
        Arrhenius publishes first calculation of global warming from human emissions of CO2.
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:14am
      - itstricky
        
        No, but I’m sure if a sufficiently “authentic” lefty intellectual said they did you’d be first onto that bandwagon.
        
        I’m sure pigs might fly one day too – so let’s talk just about what has been said and not what might be.
        
        So, about Trumpies – did he believe an “authentic” nationalist intellectual?
        
        Didn’t he pick it up from that red faced angry bloke that runs the conspiracy news site? Can’t quite remember.
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:14pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Does defending Islam make you a moron?
      Does asking ‘gotcha’ questions make you a simpleton?
      Does voting for Labour demonstrate you shouldn’t be allowed to breed?
      Are Jacinda’s teeth real?
      Is Andrew Little a plant by the Nats?
      Are anti-fascists really fascists?
      
      This is a fun game – but I win, because I could ask more silly questions than you could!
      
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      March 10, 2017 9:58pm
- SteveEEE
  
  Hello William. Thank you for your contribution to this thread and your interesting perspective, and especially for the link to Mr Powell. I plan to read one of his books, free to anyone, and now safely stored on my laptop as it waits to be transferred to my e-reader.
  
  Mr Powell is not a climate scientist, but a geologist.
  
  The statistics you quote from him seem pretty suss actually, but then – he is not a statistician. The way he counts may be quite different to the way I count, or you.
  
  Nor are these numbers relevant. Even if no one, scientist or otherwise, believes something, that doesn’t mean that something is wrong. It really does not help any argument to keep trotting out the numbers of people who agree about something scientific, as that in itself is not scientific. Science is about reproducible results, and is not a popularity contest. Expostulating as you do turns you into a bore when there is plenty to be excited about.
  
  Give it a rest. Thank you.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:25am
  - stephieboy
    
    SteveEEE. will these 36 Nobel laureates do instead of Mr Powell ?
    
    https://qz.com/444787/a-group-of-Nobel-laureates-have-signed-a-declaration-calling-for-urgent-action-on-climate-change/
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:20am
    - Rich Prick
      
      I’m afraid 36 doesn’t cut it. 78 is the magic number.
      
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      March 10, 2017 9:58am
      - stephieboy
        
        Rich Prick , how many Laureates endorse Trump ‘s climate change hoax ?
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:14am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Who cares. The great news is that Trump has made a fantasic appointment to the EPA and is stripping out its funding. Ain’t that a great start? And what Nobel laureates think won’t change a thing.
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:17am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Bearing in mind that the execrable Obama is a laureate – they shouldn’t be equated with anything of merit!
        
        Unless of course you’d like to emphasise the anti-science calibre of Islam given the staggering lack of muslims collecting laureates!
        
        Don’t you love it when you can use ‘alternate facts’ to take the piss out of socialists?
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:01pm
    - Fletch
      
      Stephie, being a Nobel Laureate doesn’t count for much these days, now that Obama is one. It’s all political now.
      
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      March 10, 2017 11:58am
      - krazykiwi
        
        That’s right Fletch.
        
        The Nobel Committee met and decided to decorate Obama after he’d been in office just 12 days.
        
        On presentation of the award Obama hawkishly talked up his decision to send an extra 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.
        
        A few years later the then-Nobel secretary Geir Lundestad said he regretted the choice of recipient and noted that “even many of Obama’s supporters believed that the prize was a mistake”.
        
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        March 10, 2017 1:20pm
- Random T Person
  
  Yes but have you considered if it will make things BETTER rather than WORSE for us? Why shouldn’t warmer be better for most of the planet? I know I prefer it.
  Plus, the planet changes all the time, sometimes for better, sometimes for worse (for humans, that is). And humans find ‘the environment’ so abominably shit that the first thing we do when we find ourselves in the damned thing is modify it. Like a LOT.
  Also, since when has consensus ever been a measure of fact? Only for complete idiots, I suspect. A criterion you certainly seem to satisfy.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:40am
  - jonar
    
    Is this better or worse?
    
    https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/
    
    U.S. regional effects
    Below are some of the impacts that are currently visible throughout the U.S. and will continue to affect these regions, according to the Third National Climate Assessment Report2, released by the U.S. Global Change Research Program:
    
    Northeast. Heat waves, heavy downpours and sea level rise pose growing challenges to many aspects of life in the Northeast. Infrastructure, agriculture, fisheries and ecosystems will be increasingly compromised. Many states and cities are beginning to incorporate climate change into their planning.
    
    Northwest. Changes in the timing of streamflow reduce water supplies for competing demands. Sea level rise, erosion, inundation, risks to infrastructure and increasing ocean acidity pose major threats. Increasing wildfire, insect outbreaks and tree diseases are causing widespread tree die-off.
    
    Southeast. Sea level rise poses widespread and continuing threats to the region’s economy and environment. Extreme heat will affect health, energy, agriculture and more. Decreased water availability will have economic and environmental impacts.
    
    Midwest. Extreme heat, heavy downpours and flooding will affect infrastructure, health, agriculture, forestry, transportation, air and water quality, and more. Climate change will also exacerbate a range of risks to the Great Lakes.
    
    Southwest. Increased heat, drought and insect outbreaks, all linked to climate change, have increased wildfires. Declining water supplies, reduced agricultural yields, health impacts in cities due to heat, and flooding and erosion in coastal areas are additional concerns.
    
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    March 10, 2017 10:30am
    - cmm
      
      Nasa… the ultimate troughers…
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:47am
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      so to prove the value of troughing… you quote the biggest outfit of troughers?
      
      I see what you did there 🙂
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:02pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Not biting. Sorry troll. Go away.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:42am
  - stephieboy
    
    code for I’m a alt right Trump climate hoax supporter amongst many other things .
    
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    March 10, 2017 10:20am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      No; code for yeah, nah, fuck off.
      
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      March 10, 2017 1:41pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      which is code for “I’ve got a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome – pity me”
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:03pm
- Peter
  
  I accept that some people are into doomsday religious movements, but the AGW one is getting very stale. Anyway, apparently it is “settled”, so why keep banging on about it?
  
  Buy your biodegradable lightbulbs, or whatever, and feel good about yourself. If you want.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:53am
Keeping Stock

Why has Denis Horne changed his name?
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March 10, 2017 8:01am
- SGA
  
  So long as he leaves his rhyming dictionary on the shelf, I don’t care 🙂
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:55am
Souvlaki

Shizer ! The bloody irony…….Green Party incensed all food not currently labelled with “country of origin”! Well, I’m cool with this…but as quid pro quo ….I insist all immigrants come with a label of country of origin/religion!
Can anyone see them agreeing? 🙂
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March 10, 2017 8:05am
- mikenmild
  
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  Especially those greasy Mediterranean types calling themselves ‘Souvlaki’.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:10am
- MCos
  
  A form of that was imposed in Germany . . . . . .
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:36am
wiseowl

I saw the headline
“The Achievements of Jacinda Adern”
I spent all day yesterday seaching on google and still can’t find any.
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March 10, 2017 8:06am
- cmm
  
  What she should do is say she was SAS like Ron Mark.
  
  When people Google “Jacinda SAS” and find nothing she can say “see how good I was, I didn’t blow my cover”.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:10am
  - Nookin
    
    I believe that she has been the leading light in a highly clandestine group of Aucklanders who have been totally devoted to keeping the Auckland sewers free of crocodiles. The success of this group has been amazing. There has not been one reported case of a crocodile in an Auckland sewer in living memory. I believe she deserves a community service award.
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:09am
    - Komata
      
      Nookin
      
      ‘Oi’ 🙂
      
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      March 10, 2017 11:24am
- stephieboy
  
  wiseowl, have a go and google your own name and tell us what you come up with ?
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:22am
  - wiseowl
    
    Morepork.
    The owl muzzies want to eliminate.
    
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    March 10, 2017 10:34am
    - cmm
      
      Beatiful. Could only uptick once.
      
      Upticks added here considered second upticks for wiseowl
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:49am
- krazykiwi
  
  stephie – “wiseowl, have a go and google your own name and tell us what you come up with”
  
  Translation: Please stop bringing Jacinda into the conversation. We’re worried about yesterday’s damage.
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:28am
  - stephieboy
    
    krazykiwi, you also have ago.The results could be spectacular.
    
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    March 10, 2017 10:22am
  - holysheet
    
    I googled stupiboy and got this
    
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cAS5h40Lhow/VPGimJ2gg4I/AAAAAAAAfi4/uBIvUJADaBk/s1600/1.jpg
    
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    March 10, 2017 2:13pm
- peterwn
  
  The answer is right here in Kiwiblog – read DPF’s item yesterday on this topic – she is not the ‘useless’ politician that some people make her out to be. Seems she is quite happy to roll up her sleeves and help put up election hoardings – I regard that as positive.
  
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  March 10, 2017 10:26am
  - Komata
    
    peterwn
    
    And hand out scoops of fush and chups full to over flowing (because she KNOWS all about small businesses) while doing so?
    
    (One has to ask these important questions…).
    
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    March 10, 2017 11:27am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Only the ones with her photo and just her Christian name on them though 😎
    
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    March 10, 2017 11:38am
- Fletch
  
  “The Achievements of Jacinda Adern”
  
  Sounds the title of a sleazy 1970s novel about a hooker.
  
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  March 10, 2017 12:00pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I would have thought ‘Confessions of the Tooth Fairy’ wold have been more her
    
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    March 10, 2017 1:46pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

It’s Friday, and still no vacancy for the position of labour party leader……despite the one finger salute from the Maori king……..well done Bill and Mr Finlayson.
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March 10, 2017 8:07am
waikatogirl

Hone brought his charming, swearing self to the political debate at Auckland uni last night, calling Chris Bishop out as a sell out for National.

Rolling my eyes! ?
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March 10, 2017 8:11am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Did he bash anyone?
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:38am
  - waikatogirl
    
    Only verbally. ?
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:47am
  - Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
    
    He has sons & nephews to do that sort of dirty work…..Hone much better at the other sort of dirty work
    
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    March 10, 2017 12:36pm
- Garbageman
  
  anyone there have the nads to ask that fkwit how much dot.crim bought his lazy ass for
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:50am
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id

Further bad news for labour, each teacher leaving takes away one vote and the influence on young minds……boo Hoo Hoo
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March 10, 2017 8:12am
Happychappy

Hell Jacinda will be burnt out by the time Labour get to the General Election if she has to front the Punch and Judy Show four days a week just to help Andrew Little keep his nickname of 8% Angry. It shows what a hypocrite he is when he goes against Labours Gender process and then has the audacity to use a women or young lady to help him keep his Leadership roll.
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March 10, 2017 8:14am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  By the time the election rolls around the Angry and Airhead team will have as much credibility as the shotgun marriage with the toxic Greens.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:20am
  - Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
    
    Airhead…….that’s gold !
    
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    March 10, 2017 12:37pm
Keeping Stock

This seems to have passed under the radar somewhat, but is significant in terms of Maori politics:

King Tuheitia has taken a significant step in this year’s election by endorsing Maori Party candidate Rahui Papa in the Hauraki Waikato seat which is held by the king’s cousin, Labour MP Nanaia Mahuta.

Papa chairs Te Arataura, the executive arm of Waikato-Tainui and is close to the king.

He has been widely tipped as the Maori Party candidate and is expected to be officially selected next week.

Mahuta has been an MP since 1996 and has held the seat since 1999 although last year she considered retiring at this year’s election.

The king made his comments yesterday at a private meeting at Parawera Marae, south of Hamilton, and he criticised Labour’s treatment of Mahuta.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11815576

This is a significant development, which was hinted at when Andrew Little relegated Mahuta to Labour’s back bench. Tuheitia should be congratulated on making good his threat to formally endorse the Maori Party rather than Labour.

One has to wonder what role Ms Mahuta has played in all of this. I suspect that she has kept Tuheitia and his advisers very much in the loop, and that yesterday’s announcement is a very calculated swipe at Little, barely six months out from the General Election.

Interesting times await us…
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March 10, 2017 8:16am
- waikatogirl
  
  KS, not to mention Tuku Morgan pulling the strings in the background.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:23am
- pdm
  
  Mahuta and the King are first cousins I think.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:26am
  - Komata
    
    Nanaia Mahuta is apparently the ‘King’s’ niece (ie, she is Tainui ‘Royalty’) , which makes one wonder if toes have been stood on and what is in it for ‘His Majesty’?
    
    The ‘investigative’ journalists will, of course, ignore this matter completely..
    
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    March 10, 2017 11:33am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Which makes Tuheitia’s withdrawl of support from Labour even more newsworthy. He’s clearly pissed that Little has damaged his whanau’s mana.
    
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    March 10, 2017 11:45am
- starboard
  
  murri king…lol.. *snigger* *chortle*
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:27am
  - itstricky
    
    Thailand… *Snigger*….*Chortle*….
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:36am
    - holysheet
      
      Sky fairies……*Snigger*…….*Chortle*……
      
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      March 10, 2017 8:43am
Paulus

I shall be accused of cynicism, but there is a large noise appearing in the USA – it is drip, drip drip where it appears that the so called US defence authorities such as the FBI and the CIA are now leaking like a sieve.
It is becoming more apparent that both, particularly the FBI, have been systematically using their many powers to deliberately use underhand electrical methods to undermine the US people – particularly those with whom they have a grudge instigated politically of do, but keep me out of it. That is why probably Obama hands can be seen to be clean. He is totally protected.
It is possible that with the Clinton/Soros organisation that they have instigated such as wire tapping and other illegal nefarious activities.
It is believed that they are skillful enough to ensure that any misdeeds are connected to Russia or China.
Watch this space as more leaks come forward, although the media will defend all malfeasance.
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March 10, 2017 8:19am
- Lance
  
  So the FBI and the CIA are the enemy of the people now?
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:35am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Well, to the left they always were, absolutely. Until they found that they could be used against Trump, then suddenly they’re the good guys…
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:44am
    - stephieboy
      
      Ed Snack , why do you think Donald deserves to be deified ?
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:24am
      - Fletch
        
        To the Left he deserves to be defied
        
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        March 10, 2017 12:04pm
- Inandout
  
  Obama wasn’t interested in what they were up to, he was a lazy President and let them do what they liked. For some employees this was a wonderful life, and would endear them to Obama no end. But amongst the spooks there were some who were aghast at the behaviour of their bosses and felt obliged to leak classified information. For the sake of stability, the intelligence agencies need to close the gaps or else chaos will ensue. Trump must use an iron fist on these agencies.
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:25am
  - stephieboy
    
    Sieg Heil !
    
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    March 10, 2017 10:25am
    - Inandout
      
      Allah Snackbar !
      
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      March 10, 2017 11:15am
    - calendar girl
      
      Still on your Nazi-connection crusade, stephie?
      
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      March 10, 2017 11:38am
      - Garbageman
        
        When you have nothing of substance to contribute its just a matter of rinse & repeat CG as he shows on an hourly basis
        
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        March 10, 2017 12:21pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Are you angling for another exile from Kiwiblog Stephieboy. Nazi slurs and analogies don’t go down well with DPF.
      
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      March 10, 2017 12:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

We are always being told how the World is getting warmer…
Here’s some newly released information showing the warmest days measured in Antarctica (a Peninsula island and on the Antarctic Plateau) were in the 1980s.
https://eos.org/features/evaluating-highest-temperature-extremes-in-the-antarctic
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March 10, 2017 8:41am
- Griff
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  ROFL
  Look over here squirrel.
  Stupid Dr Maggy Wassilieff PhD very stupid .
  Only an ignorant idiot thinks that the world will warm at an even rate and confuses one temperature measurement in one small part of a large content with Global warming..
  Global warming like this.
  https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:21am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    grow up or fuck off
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:36am
    - Griff
      
      Grow up or fuck off .
      How mature.
      That really addressees the point I made.
      I hope when a grow up I can tell people on the internet to fuck off just like you .
      
      Again slowly in simple language suitable for you to understand
      Only a fuckwit thinks the Antarctica temperatures are the same as global temperatures.
      Only an ignorant would think that global warming means ever where will rise in temperature at the same rate .
      
      We then add them together to make a good guess at what Maggy is.
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:03am
      - Nev.
        
        “…Only a fuckwit thinks the Antarctica temperatures are the same as global temperatures.”
        
        It’s interesting then that when global warming is mentioned, the Arctic and Antarctic floes and ice sheets are always referenced.
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:16am
      - Griff
        
        Not at present nev
        Wonder why?
        http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
        
        Albedo Feed back as ice declines the water exposed absorbs more radiation . This amplifying effect has caused the aortic to warm far faster than anywhere else .
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice-albedo_feedback
        The Antarctic is a continent covered in ice .
        The Arctic is a ocean formally covered in ice.
        They do not act the same under global warming .
        The distraction of Antarctic sea ice has been a talking point of denial nuts for years .
        All of a sudden silence.
        Because the sea ice in the Antarctica is below record levels .
        A reduction that scientist find interesting but dont blame on global warming .
        
        The record lows are not surprising, given Antarctic sea ice extent’s high variability. Just a few years back, extent in the region set record highs
        
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        March 10, 2017 10:29am
      - rangitoto
        
        The alarmists love their cherry picked and/or “adjusted” data.
        
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        March 10, 2017 11:46am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      I just made downtick number 31 so fuck off it is!
      
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      March 10, 2017 1:52pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        Thanks Paulus. If Griff engaged with some sense of decorum rather than calling people names I would have more patience with him. As a Paleaeoclimatologist ( Just a MSc, not PhD) I can see and value the points of view of both the scientists that refute the warming scenario as well as those who argue for it. I am prepared to be swayed by the best arguments and the best data. Name calling has no place here. Griff seems too immature to be able to enter into rational, adult, debate so he needs to remove himself from the forum. Or else an army of down tickers will be called upon!
        
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        March 10, 2017 2:07pm
      - Griff
        
        Actually I do engage with some level of decorum .
        Up to the point they start gibbering idiotic nonsense.
        You think the conspiracy nonsense needs some sort of reply other than look at the loony tune ?
        May be I should be like you Mr fuck off?
        Smeg off mr fuck off you are doing what is called tone trolling .
        Gibbering about the way I say things and totally avoiding addressing the points I make .
        It is another trick poor pathetic apes use on themselves to stop them having to confront the wobbly tummy their cogitative dissonance would cause .
        
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        March 10, 2017 2:20pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Actually I do engage with some level of decorum
        
        … followed by …
        
        May be I should be like you Mr fuck off? Smeg off mr fuck off
        
        Comedy gold 😀
        
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        March 10, 2017 3:00pm
  - Komata
    
    Griff
    
    Since you are obviously able to ‘top’ Maggie in respect of qualifications, one has to ask what YOUR academic qualifications would be (and please include your post-nominals BTW, just for clarity).
    
    Thank you.
    
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    March 10, 2017 11:38am
  - Fletch
    
    Griff, go to your link. Now click on the dropdown/link about the graph and change it to ‘Monthly Mean Global Surface Temperature’. See how much it has come down in the last 6 months? That is because El Nino has moved off. The Land-Ocean Temperature Index anomaly (in the red) is now 0.92 C, which is lower than the 0.96 anomaly in 2007. The Temperature currently is lower than that in 2007.
    
    The temperatures really haven’t changed much if you look at the actual scale at the left side of the graph. The whole vertical scale on the left from top to bottom totals 1.6 deg. Zooming in so much makes the changes look massive though.
    
    Mouse over the second temp in 1996 at it says the anomaly is 0.5 C. The anomaly at the moment is 0.92 C – so at the moment the temperature is 0.42 deg C higher than it was in 1996. My reaction to that is – so?
    Seems quite reasonable.
    
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    March 10, 2017 12:12pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Wasn’t it the 80’s there was concern the world was heading into an ice age and builders were encouraged to build black buildings to absorb the sun. Several were built in central Wellington.
  
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  March 10, 2017 10:59am
  - Griff
    
    No
    In the seventy’s There was different scientific opinions on the role of atmospheric particles.
    That question was resolved by 1980.
    
    Just another talking point feed to the ignorant.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
    
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    March 10, 2017 11:09am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Meow!
      Chill Griff.
      
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      March 10, 2017 2:35pm
  - Nev.
    
    Yes waikatogirl in the early 80’s, accepted wisdom was that the earth was entering a mini ice age and humanity was doomed.
    
    Based on climate scientists and NASA observations.
    
    As Griff appears to be a new convert to the climate change religion, (as recently as his last banning) he appears unaware of this reversal of “predictions”.
    
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    March 10, 2017 12:09pm
- howitis
  
  NZs hottest recorded temperatures were in February 1973
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records#Oceania_.5Bnotes_7.5D
  
  Now there are competing groups that want to ‘prove ‘ global warming or whatever they call it this week using ‘dodgy data’ and junk science. Baroness Thatcher was an ‘actual working scientist’ before law and politics. She knew there were plenty of scammers holding out for a bone i.e. research grants that lead to nothing.
  
  http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/4628072/Its-official-Sunday-was-the-hottest-on-record
  ” It’s official: Sunday was the hottest on record ”
  
  8 Feb 2011. Supposedly Timaru was ‘the hottest ever’ then a few paragraphs down it comes out with…
  …Niwa climate scientist James Renwick said the Botanic Gardens reading was only a degree off the highest recorded temperature ever recorded in New Zealand, at Rangiora on February 7, 1973.
  “I actually remember that day. I was in the sixth form and we all got half a day off school because it was just too hot,” he said.
  “So in a way, we all missed out this year – not only did Waitangi Day happen on a Sunday this year, but if [the hot weather] had happened on Monday, then schoolkids would have likely got the day off anyway.”…
  
  A simple analysis of 3 paragraphs:
  NIWA is full of gushing jokes who call themselves scientists It pretty much never misses more than hits correct long range forecast in over 15 years) . Court records show less than 50% accuracy so not even a School C pass.
  Niwa ‘scientist’ more concerned about missing out on public holidays and kids not getting extra time off school. Not a lot of dedication to knowledge then!
  
  NIWA has to be partially self funding and it resorts to junk ‘science’ to score research funds.
  It is good at manipulating lazy journos who want a fait accompli presented to them and since it is backed by ‘scientists’ the repeaters can publish it as is. Convenient for both parties.
  
  This is an example of junk science or just the sort of thing a 12 year old would write for a school project
  https://niwa.co.nz/news/wellingtons-summer-was-bad-but-not-as-bad-as-you-think%E2%80%94honest
  Read at your own peril.
  
  NIWA is a well funded sandpit for junk science esp. in weather matters.
  Their fish analysis work is an excellent standard i.e. world class; their Weather stuff is junk and should be closed down and the funding directed to one body perhaps Met Service.
  I use the international charts from MetVuw managed in NZ by James McGregor at Victoria University.
  
  NIWA is just one example of a body that promulgates ‘the convenient lie’.
  Convenient because it brings in funds. The only price is your soul but if you don’t have one well its free.
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:29pm
krazykiwi

I once considered our own Dear Leader as a master at stoking rick-prick envy from the general populous.

But even she wouldn’t have been as brazen as the UK Labour party:

“John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor,would grab 20 per cent of the assets of the richest 10 per cent of Britons if Labour got into power, it emerged today.
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“So we’re saying just collect the money and make those who created the crisis pay for the crisis and that way you overcome it.”
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He advocated placing left-wing economists in key jobs at the Bank of England and HMRC.

Forget Europe, Brexit, Frexit, whatever… those problems would be insignificant compared to the destruction of the UK resulting from a Labour government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/revealed-john-mcdonnell-calls-20-per-cent-wealth-tax-richest/
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March 10, 2017 8:42am
- holysheet
  
  With the fuckwit Gould, a failure at everything he has ever done, advising liabore here, we can expect the same if we are dumb enough to get a liabore govt in september.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:46am
- rangitoto
  
  But but look how wonderful things are working out in the socialist paradise of Venezuela. The UK could follow the same glorious path.
  
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  March 10, 2017 11:42am
- Komata
  
  KK
  
  Very interesting, but not surprising. The Post-1950’s UK Labour party has ALWAYS been determined to destroy the UK; it’s all to do with their socialist/marxist/ communist ideology and the determination to create the NWO. This is merely another example…
  
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  March 10, 2017 11:43am
Huevon

From what I’ve seen, the fatties can’t wait to get the packaging off so I don’t see how this makes a difference.
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March 10, 2017 8:44am
zonic

just listened to nick smith talk about the RMA reform Bill, that his introducing to improve effeciency. his whole talk is about supply. He does not once mention demand, which to me seems strange.it’s around the 7min mark if anyone is interested https://youtu.be/MxjWfQ_6gG4
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March 10, 2017 8:55am
BeaB

A new low for The Herald:

“As she carried the light umbrella, her golden tresses gently blew in the breeze and cascaded past her shoulders.”
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March 10, 2017 9:07am
- Inandout
  
  Article about Jacinta by any chance?
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:29am
krazykiwi

Oh the irony ….

Miami lawyer’s pants catch fire during arson case

A Miami defence lawyer’s pants burst into flames in court just as he began his closing arguments in front of a jury – in an arson case.

Stephen Gutierrez, who was arguing that his client’s car spontaneously combusted and was not intentionally set on fire, had been fiddling in his pocket as he was about to address jurors on Wednesday when smoke began billowing out his right pocket, witnesses told the Miami Herald
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March 10, 2017 9:09am
- RF
  
  Liar liar… pants on fire……
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:20am
  - cha
    
    Baghdad Sean is set to spontaneously combust.
    
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/09/us/politics/justice-dept-declines-to-back-claim-trump-is-not-under-investigation.html
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:40am
- Inandout
  
  Sexual emergency gone wrong?
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:30am
EAD

Reflections on the “March for Trump”

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2017/03/march-4-trump.html?m=0

One interesting thing I noticed was the enthusiasm with which the mainstream right have adopted the label “deplorable”. There were sweet little old grandmas wearing deplorable t shirts and the event organisers were doing a roaring trade selling :”deplorahats”. I had thought that the term deplorable applied primarily to the Alt Right. However, seeing the popularity of the self applied deplorable label made me realise that that even mainstream conservatives have had the views they have held for decades declared beyond the bounds of acceptable discourse. They have been rendered ideological outlaws, which is just pushing them towards us.

About a dozen Antifa made an appearance, at the pre march rally, and several were dotted along the route of the March. They were a pretty unimpressive bunch of badly dressed, out of shape, physical weaklings. I have seldom seen a less intimidating group of people. There were a couple of flashpoints. One when a member of Antifa made the mistake of trying to grab an ex-marine, who I had been talking to earlier in the day’s, US flag and was promptly decked. The police let the ex-marine go and arrested the antifa protester

These Trump marchers are like another planet to the Soros funded SJW marching rabble. The contrast between the respective supporters could not be greater which whilst we mock the SJWs and their assorted minority coalition United in theory hatred for traditional society, is a sad indictment on just how divided our countries have become after 50 years of Cultural Marxist brainwashing that we stand opposed to so much of our brethren.

“United we stand, divided we fall”, never rings more visibly than in America right now.
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March 10, 2017 9:52am
- MCos
  
  I would say NZ is less divided now than it has been in a long time despite the rabble rousing on the extremities.
  
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  March 10, 2017 10:04am
Garbageman

England rugby”slammed” over racist swing low sweet chariot by American academics good to see all other true racism has been fixed and they can now focus on the truly important things
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11815570
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March 10, 2017 10:10am
cha

Looks like an acute onset of recent memory loss so probably best Mr Farage consult a psychogeriatrician.

Nigel Farage visited the Ecuadorian embassy in west London on Thursday, where WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been living since he claimed asylum in 2012.

The former UKIP leader spent around 40 minutes in the building and left at noon, accompanied by Christian Mitchell, the head of operations at radio station LBC, where Farage hosts a regular show.

Approached by BuzzFeed News as he left to get into a car waiting round the corner, Farage said he couldn’t remember what he had been doing in the building.

Asked specifically if he had gone to the Knightsbridge building to meet with Assange, Farage said: “I never discuss where I go or who I see

https://www.buzzfeed.com/marieleconte/wait-what?utm_term=.nqkggg5G3D#.rf7JJJyNvx
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March 10, 2017 10:14am
Manolo

Bush and Obama’s legacy:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/391-cbo-says-us-has-highest-top-statutory-corporate-tax-rate-g20

The United States has the highest top statutory corporate tax rate—39.1%–of any nation in the G20, according to a study released Wednesday by the Congressional Budget Office.
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March 10, 2017 10:55am
Meatloaf

To EAD, Hi EAD are you still giving financial advice on gold? If you are I guarantee you will learn something about its value through these two links, and the site.

http://advantagestogoldandsilver.blogtown.co.nz/2017/02/21/gold-and-silver-why-its-so-safe-part-1-2/

http://advantagestogoldandsilver.blogtown.co.nz/2017/02/21/the-real-advantage-of-gold-and-silver-part-5/

To the rest of you, Keynes was a Socialist, in the German Preface of his book ‘the General Theory’ he said:

“‘Nevertheless the theory of output as a whole, which is what the following book purports to provide, is much more easily adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state, than is the theory of the production and distribution of a given output produced under conditions of free competition and a large measure of laissez faire”.

So there you have it Keynes was a socialist.
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March 10, 2017 11:11am
Griff

One from the Christian family values file.
Republican state senator accused of affair with cousin.
Republican state senator Joey Hensley of Hohenwald, Tennessee, is a family doctor and runs his campaigns on Christian family values.

However, the 61-year-old senator failed to appear in court last week to testify in the divorce proceedings of Hohenwald Vice Mayor Don Barber and his wife Lori.

Hensley refused to show up to the hearing, citing legislative and medical privilege.

“I didn’t have time to do it,” Hensley said when contacted by Nashville Scene.

“I had nothing to do with the court case, and any testimony I would have given wouldn’t have made any difference.”

The divorcing Barbers both said in sworn testimonies that Hensley has been having an affair with Lori since 2014. She is a a part-time nurse in Hensley’s medical practice in Lewis County, she is also his second cousin and his patient.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11815735
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March 10, 2017 11:48am
- rangitoto
  
  Why is such a domestic matter of any interest to a court.
  
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  March 10, 2017 12:03pm
  - nasska
    
    Apart from the fact that the USA don’t have a system of “no fault” divorce there’s probably not much of interest in the legal sense.
    
    But when you get a Grade #A Godnutter who pontificates at length on “Christian family values” involved with adultery then the stench of hypocrisy is sufficient to gag a maggot.
    
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    March 10, 2017 12:15pm
    - Tirebiter
      
      Divorce laws are determined by each of the 50 states, not the federal government. Many states do have ‘no fault’ divorce though they tend to be the more ‘liberal’ leaning ones; the ‘conservative’ states often believe that once married before god, forever married and make divorce, like birth control, very difficult to obtain.
      
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      March 11, 2017 6:17am
- Griff
  
  O0h dear I get down ticked .
  Now who would I have upset?
  
  The senator campaigns on Christian family values and is found to be a cousin fuckin slimball .
  
  At lest this example of christian family values was not fiddling with little wee girls as his “Christian Heritage”.
  
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  March 10, 2017 12:10pm
  - Nev.
    
    Says the person who owns a diesel powered tug boat and drones on and on about climate change.
    Nev.
    
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    March 10, 2017 12:30pm
    - Griff
      
      Nev
      Making stuff up now
      You do understand what a yacht is dont you ?
      Here is a hint it uses wind to drive it forward. The motor is to assist not the primary source of power .
      As well the “tug” has been my off grid home generating my energy from solar and wind .
      
      So you are getting even more stupid my friend .
      
      I should also ask what name you previously commented under.
      
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      March 10, 2017 12:36pm
      - Nev.
        
        Hmmm I am sure in the past you have mentioned you own (or have owned) a tug. If not, then my apologies.
        
        As for the latter, you know what the first rule of fight club is.
        Nev.
        
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        March 10, 2017 12:45pm
      - Kimbo
        
        The motor is to assist not the primary source of power .
        
        Oh, so when it comes to contributing towards AGW, is that like sprinkles on ice-cream? Because they are not the “primary” dessert, the calories don’t count? 😉
        
        But to be fair, I don’t think your hypocrisy is as great as being a fundamentalist Christian politician busted for adultery with his cousin 😉
        
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        March 10, 2017 12:46pm
      - Nev.
        
        I am just winding you up Griff, filling in time until a nice Cab Sav at the end of the day.
        And what Kimbo said, you’re a small fish in the ocean of people who should be ridiculed for their hypocrisy over the subject.
        Enjoy your afternoon!
        Nev.
        
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        March 10, 2017 12:56pm
      - Griff
        
        The old what are you doing ?
        As I sit using my own energy generated by my own recycled solar system on a recycled laptop .
        I just down sized my car .
        Not to electric as I do not have the capacity as yet to charge an electric car…
        Sorry the old hypocrite would still not work .
        http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
        Even if I was one .
        
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        March 10, 2017 1:09pm
      - thedavincimode
        
        As I sit using my own energy generated by my own recycled solar system on a recycled laptop .
        
        No doubt that isn’t all that grief recycles. Health & Safety tip: if you’re ever invited around to grief’s, don’t eat the lettuces.
        
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        March 10, 2017 1:44pm
      - RalphT
        
        It has become apparent that many see Griff as living in a world of his own. He obviously agrees and is in fact going further, claiming to have a solar system to himself…
        
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        March 10, 2017 1:55pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        I do not have the capacity
        
        At last we agree on something Griff 🙂
        
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        March 10, 2017 2:00pm
    - realityczech
      
      A dirty diesel powered pleasure boat that props endangered Dolphins for Griff’s pleasure and sport.
      
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      March 10, 2017 12:58pm
  - Duxton
    
    “Cousin fuckin slim(e)ball”
    
    Sorry, I’m confused. Are we still talking about Nanaia Mahuta?
    
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    March 10, 2017 1:57pm
krazykiwi

I see ztev (aka the Labour research unit) is closing in on a record uptick count for this comment. Only a few more and it’s yellow, baby! 🙂
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March 10, 2017 12:20pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Yellow it is, who would have thought?
  
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  March 10, 2017 2:00pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/90280917/howzat-for-poor-behaviour-35-drunk-and-abusive-people-ejected-from-dunedin-cricket-test

You just know where this is headed.
Because of a few drunken Students (is there any other kind?) Police will now be pushing to ‘Ban’ Booze at cricket matches- Mark my words.
Fancy living in a World where you can’t have a quiet beer at the cricket (or a Rock Concert for that matter!)
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March 10, 2017 12:41pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Speaking of cricket, why is it that the NZ team’s ‘whites’ are always a dirtier shade of white than those of every other international team?
  Are they washing them in an unswimmable river?
  
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  March 10, 2017 12:56pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Someones mum just doesn’t know what someones mum ought to know that Persil washes whiter whiter . . . . .
    
    Hands up those who recogise that.
    
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    March 10, 2017 2:02pm
- RalphT
  
  Simpler to ban cricket from student drinking activities in Dunedin.
  
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  March 10, 2017 1:57pm
Manolo

Better late than never, Kimbo mate:
A History of Pi by Petr Beckmann, a good book.
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March 10, 2017 12:58pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Former Australian Liberal (conservative) Party Leader & economist John Hewson …

… What are the consequences for the political and commercial establishments ? …

The risk is greater than the GFC if we can’t fix the housing crisis : John Hewson … The Melbourne Age

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-risk-is-greater-than-the-gfc-if-we-cant-fix-the-housing-crisis-20170309-guu4sf.html

… via …

John Hewson: Aussie housing “reaching crisis proportions” – MacroBusiness Australia

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/03/john-hewson-aussie-housing-reaching-crisis-proportions/

One of the main reasons why the anti-establishment movement is gaining considerable momentum in our politics is that key policy issues have been ignored and just left to drift, some now reaching crisis proportions.

Housing is a conspicuous example. The political class is finally catching up, with both NSW and Victorian premiers now making it a priority, and Treasurer Scott Morrison committing to a “housing package” as the centrepiece of the May budget. All probably very little, too late, with the issue complicated with overlapping federal and state responsibilities. … read more via hyperlink above …

Aylites ring hands over the rise of “populism” – MacroBusiness Australia

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/03/aylites-ring-hands-rise-populism/#comment-2825999
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March 10, 2017 12:59pm
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  The hyper-inflation of Australia’s land costs … Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Australia
  … behind paywall …
  
  http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/03/hyper-inflation-aussie-vacant-land-costs/
  
  … Australian capital city lot cost … $A250,000
  
  … Australian regional lot cost … $A151,000
  
  … CONTRAST WITH HOUSTON !
  
  Houston Association of Realtors … latest Monthly Report
  
  https://www.har.com/content/mls
  
  … Houston single detached median home price … $US210,000
  
  … Houston townhouse / condo median price … $US138,000
  
  … and …
  
  … From March 2015 …
  
  Inequality & Housing: Through the roof … The Economist
  
  http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21647349-rising-house-prices-may-be-chiefly-responsible-rising-inequality-through
  
  … extract …
  
  “Moreover, if housing is the biggest source of rising inequality, then the wealth tax Mr Piketty advocates is the wrong response. Policymakers should instead try to reduce the planning restrictions which, by inhibiting new construction, allow homeowners to earn such big returns on their assets.”
  
  Thomas Piketty’s theory on income equality wrecked by 28 year old … Breitbart
  
  http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/26/socialist-thomas-pikettys-theory-on-income-equality-wrecked-by-26-year-old-mit-grad-student/
  
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  March 10, 2017 1:01pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Having fixed Auckland’s property prices, Hugh is now going to sort out Australia’s
    
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    March 10, 2017 2:00pm
Manolo

A lawyer’s paradise:
The Government must pay compensation to a teenage Sudanese asylum seeker who immigration officers did not believe was a child.

The Court of Appeal has rejected a challenge by the Home Secretary after the High Court ruled the 16-year-old was entitled to damages.

The teen arrived in the UK to claim asylum in 2014 and was detained on the basis that officials ‘assessed him, on appearance alone, to be significantly older than 18’. He was deemed to have been deprived of his liberty because the officer said he ‘reasonably believed’ he was over 18 and not a child exempt from detention.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4297382/Government-pay-damages-Sudanese-asylum-seeker-16.html#ixzz4asPXwVfr
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March 10, 2017 1:06pm
Manolo

Hanky-panky and the sellers of smoke:
http://religionnews.com/2017/03/09/claims-of-sex-orgies-prostitution-and-porn-videos-shake-catholic-church-in-italy/

Lurid accusations of priests involved in sex orgies, porn videos and prostitution have emerged from several parishes in Italy recently, sending shock waves all the way to the Vatican.

In the southern city of Naples, for example, a priest was recently suspended from the parish of Santa Maria degli Angeli over claims he held gay orgies and used internet sites to recruit potential partners whom he paid for sex.
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March 10, 2017 1:30pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Doesn’t surprise me. Forced celibacy is unnatural, and unhealthy. The Catholic church bans contraception in order to breed more Catholics who are, in turn, encouraged to donate to the church. In much of the world this means Catholics giving money directly to their local priest, and a celibate priest has no legitimate heirs meaning that eventually Rome gets the lot. Rome might protest for the media’s sake, but the parties are fine just so long as no legitimate heirs surface.
  
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  March 10, 2017 1:55pm
  - MCos
    
    What a lot of crap. Priests can leave their money to whosoever they wish and there’s nothing the church can do about it.
    
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    March 10, 2017 2:53pm
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    On these matters, kk, you are full of shit – you haven’t got a clue what you are talking about.
    And just to let you know I do not have a bias, I agree with Manolo’s comment – but it has nothing to do with celibacy.
    
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    March 10, 2017 3:21pm
  - GoVege
    
    I just got back from my first ever trip to Europe and everyone was lovely….except for one Mother Theresa clone at the Vatican who kicked my bag.
    The kids say it was probably because I was resting on the prayer seat reading my phone instead of praying. ..
    
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    March 10, 2017 4:47pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Criticisms accepted. This isn’t a specialty area for me. I had read this analysis some time ago in, if I recall, a rather dusty book on the history of the Roman Catholic Church
    
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    March 10, 2017 5:52pm
krazykiwi

Cannabis boosts risk of stroke and heart attack, independent of tobacco, new study finds

Cannabis itself is harmful to cardiovascular health and increases the chance of early death regardless of related factors such as smoking tobacco, new research reveals.

Data taken from more than 1,000 US hospitals found that people who used the drug had a 26 per cent higher chance of suffering a stroke than those who did not, and a 10 per cent higher chance of having a heart attack.

The findings held true after taking into account unhealthy factors known to affect many cannabis smokers, such as obesity, alcohol misuse and smoking.
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March 10, 2017 1:43pm
- nasska
  
  Forget risks associated with marijuana krazykiwi……keep on with your religious delusions & you may live longer but you probably won’t know it:
  
  …..”In the United States, a number of studies have examined religious delusions in patients with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. The first of these reported results of a small study of 41 psychotic patients in New York City, finding that 39% of those with schizophrenia and 22% of those with mania had religious delusions “……
  
  I reckon that I’d rather take my chances with an ounce or two of good herb. 🙂
  
  http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0101-60832007000700013&script=sci_arttext&tlng=en
  
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  March 10, 2017 3:21pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Good for you nasska. Just don’t start gibbering. That market’s been cornered 😀
    
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    March 10, 2017 3:25pm
dime

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/227046.html

Kane Williamson, holy shit.

After today hes 52nd on the list of all time century makers in tests.

17 tons from 59 tests.

He could be on the all time top 10 list at the rate hes going.
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March 10, 2017 1:50pm
- Kimbo
  
  That’s a real-time link, so he’s still at 16 tons with today’s effort, equal with Ross Taylor, and one behind Martin Crowe.
  
  http://www.espncricinfo.com/new-zealand-v-south-africa-2016-17/engine/match/1020041.html
  
  But you are right. Still only 26 year of age, and with maybe another 10 years of test cricket in front of him and his best years to come.
  
  Good fight back today. Gutsy in that first hour, wearing them down so we can cash-in this session, and maybe even the next.
  
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  March 10, 2017 2:11pm
  - dime
    
    ah ok. either way, aint life grand ha
    
    Taylor also a star.
    
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    March 10, 2017 2:15pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …and Watling.
      
      They just put up this stat on cricinfo that tells of his value – features in all three of the top averaging NZ batting partnerships:
      
      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=fow_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=fow_innings;team=5;template=results;type=fow
      
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      March 10, 2017 2:20pm
- stigie
  
  How do they figure the “no ball” from Morkel but still gave Jimmy Neeson out, what the fuck are these pricks smoking..?
  
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  March 10, 2017 2:59pm
Kimbo

Bugger, dime, I knew we’d jinx it! Williamson out for 130. Still got a chance to get a good lead here of 50-100, maybe even 150 if Santner can get going.
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March 10, 2017 2:29pm
Manolo

For stephieboy, keen follower of these things:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/malik-obama-shares-photo-brother-baracks-kenya-certificate-birth/

An Obama has joined the birther movement.

Malik Obama, Barack Obama’s half-brother, tweeted image of what appears to be Barack’s birth certificate. Except it’s not from Hawaii, but rather Kenya.
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March 10, 2017 2:42pm
- stephieboy
  
  Manolo , our deluded amateur Astrophysicist Trumpists and the deluded Malik Obama , the trusty pro trump stepbrother who will give President Trump and Trumpists another reason for yet another flip flop .
  
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  March 10, 2017 3:26pm
Fletch

Five people injured in axe attack in Dusseldorf…

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/09/several-injured-axe-attack-dusseldorf-train-station/
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March 10, 2017 2:48pm
- Longknives
  
  Early indications are of yet another Mentally ill ‘Lone Wolf’..
  Nothing to see here. Nothing to do with Isl….
  
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  March 10, 2017 2:51pm
  - EAD
    
    “Nothing to do with Islam”
    “worried about the backlash”
    “lone Wolf attack”
    
    The whole state apparatus is geared toward keeping us in a cringing apologetic paralysis fawning over the minorities and repeating the slogans of tolerance.
    
    We are so pozzed at the moment but all it takes is one people to take their country back and it will shame the others into doing the same. Break the spell of the media and this ongoing disaster will end.
    
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    March 10, 2017 3:17pm
    - stephieboy
      
      EAD, how will Breitbart , Fox , Infwars , Irish Savant , CODAH or KB etc stop you presenting contary views?
      
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      March 10, 2017 3:22pm
      - Duxton
        
        Mohammed long meme na pikpik puspusim
        
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        March 10, 2017 5:19pm
- krazykiwi
  
  A German police spokesman said last night there were no indications the Dusseldorf attack was terrorism. “We are not using the words ‘rampage’ or ‘terror’,” the spokesman said.
  
  Love how the Polizei choose to use words to tell the world what words they’re not using.
  
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  March 10, 2017 3:22pm
rangitoto

A pity the Cassini mission has only six months left. Remarkable images of the small moon called Pan.

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2017/20170309-cassini-drops-amazing-images.html
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March 10, 2017 3:01pm
Hugh Pavletich

The Bank of New Zealand CEO and Chief Economist row contunued … Interest Co NZ

‘It is harder for young people these days to buy a house than it was for the Baby Boomers. This is not because of greed by older people,’ Tony Alexander says | interest.co.nz

https://www.interest.co.nz/personal-finance/86447/it-harder-young-people-these-days-buy-house-it-was-baby-boomers-not-because

BNZ chief economist Tony Alexander has sought to explain himself, further to his boss apologising for the “inflammatory” remarks he made in his weekly newsletter last week. … read more via hyperlink above …

… Auckland Median Multiple 10.0 … Sydney Median Multiple 12.2 …

Woman with $200,000 in savings can’t buy Sydney home | Daily Mail Online

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4258658/Woman-200-000-savings-t-buy-Sydney-home.html

• Successful entrepreneur with $200,000 in savings can’t afford Sydney home

• Wenee Yap, 30, currently spends $460-a-week in rent for inner-city studio

• Despite a good income and savings she is unable to buy ‘the smallest shoebox’

• Sydney is the second most expensive city to buy property in the world,

• The median house price is a severely unaffordable’ $1.1 million dollars

With that $200,000 ish she should be able to buy the median price house in Sydney … mortgage free !

Check Houston Association of Realtors latest Monthly Report …

https://www.har.com/content/mls

Single family median house price … $US210,000

Townhouse / condominium median price … $US138,000

Isn’t it well past time we stopped being cowering twits … taking this garbage from the idiot political and commercial elites ?

Denying people access to affordable housing happens to be a serious breach of basic human rights.
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March 10, 2017 3:22pm
- nasska
  
  The wheel’s still turning but the mouse is dead.
  
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  March 10, 2017 3:34pm
  - rangitoto
    
    The scroll wheel on my mouse overheats when Hugh’s posts appear.
    
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    March 10, 2017 3:55pm
    - holysheet
      
      My trackpad on my laptop uses the 2 finger salute every time one of his posts appears.
      
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      March 10, 2017 5:12pm
- starboard
  
  “Woman with $200,000 in savings can’t buy Sydney home”
  
  Probably wants to live in Vaucluse, Sydney.
  Wont buy the letterbox for 200K
  
  My nephew has just purchased his first home in Wollongong sth Sydney ( about 80km out ), for 350K..but lets not let facts get in the way of Hugh’s ravings eh.
  
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  March 10, 2017 5:39pm
gump

I read that Auckland faces its biggest interruption to water supplies in over two decades due to an inability of the infrastructure to cope with the recent weather.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11815871

I hope all the morons who campaigned to keep rates down and minimise infrastructure investment are feeling really good about this. Because it is entirely their fault.

I look forward to reading the spin and diversion. And then I’m just going to laugh at you all and water my garden.
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March 10, 2017 3:31pm
- rangitoto
  
  “I hope all the morons who campaigned to keep rates down”
  
  Don’t call Mayor Phar Goof a moron.
  
  Actually what infrastructure spend did you have in mind that would prevent the Hunua reservoirs from silting up in the event of a flood? I doubt there was any such expenditure ever proposed. In any case there is plenty of fat that Mayor Phar could trim and increase the infrastructure spend without increasing rates. He needs to start by replacing the Town Clerk with a fiscally responsible manager.
  
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  March 10, 2017 3:50pm
  - gump
    
    Goff has been in the Mayor’s seat for four months. Clearly the decades of underinvestment are entirely his fault.
    
    The Huia treatment plant needed replacing decades ago (it was built in 1929). But Watercare doesn’t have funding or consent to replace it, and DPF even ran a guest post opposing the proposed replacement only two days ago.
    
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/03/guest_post_watercare.html
    
    So yeah. You morons are reaping what you sowed.
    
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    March 10, 2017 4:00pm
    - rangitoto
      
      So you are saying there is not any real difference between Goof and PDB other that the cleaners have a less icky job to do in the Ngati Whatua room.
      
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      March 10, 2017 4:20pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Ps. The current problem has nothing to do with the Huia plant.
      
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      March 10, 2017 4:28pm
      - gump
        
        The WTPs across Auckland are all running beyond their design capacity.
        
        When one of them goes down – such as Hunua – the others cannot pick up the slack.
        
        That’s why the whole of Auckland now has to reduce their water consumption. Not just the suburbs beside the Hunua catchment.
        
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        March 10, 2017 5:19pm
      - rangitoto
        
        So it looks like Watercare have the dosh to upgrade the Huia one but are being blocked by the Green nimby’s.
        
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        March 10, 2017 7:20pm
Happychappy

Is the media going to have to grovel and admit that Obamas administration gave the all clear to wire tap Trump. So it seems President Obama is not squeaky clean after all, and this might come back to haunt him.
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March 10, 2017 3:50pm
- reid3
  
  might?
  
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  March 10, 2017 4:15pm
- Nev.
  
  Media are going to have to take up Labours trick of deleting embarrassing posts.
  
  Just kidding, they will double down on the hate.
  Did you see any withdrawal of the “Russian Hooker” or “Trump Rape” claims?
  
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  March 10, 2017 5:52pm
Fletch

Apparently, the FISA wiretapping warrants confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8qEkXOC-7U
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March 10, 2017 4:21pm
Maggy Wassilieff

South Korea’s Park Geun-Hye is a goneburger
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2017/03/10/2017031001296.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39202936
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March 10, 2017 4:29pm
reid3

You should watch this – 7 mins

Watching The Hawks co-host Sean Stone interviews former CIA agent Robert Steele about the future of the Trump Presidency and the Deep State and a possible impending economic crisis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZuzE3RYX0&feature=youtu.be

His website is here:
http://phibetaiota.net
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March 10, 2017 4:31pm
reid3

Dear Sir,

In a previously published letter I stated that I was no conspiracy theorists. However, the more I investigate some of their claims, one of which is that we are close to world domination by a few people through financial incarceration, or embroiling people or nations in the grip of debt, the less sceptical I become.

In 1865 a certain Rabbi by the name of Reichorn made a speech in Prague. This little known document was published eleven years later by Sir John Radcliff. That certain people were very alarmed by this publication is well seen by two things. First, Radcliff was assassinated shortly afterwards and second it is quite impossible to procure a copy of this document anymore.

Here are some of the principle passages:

“Gold in the hands of experts will always be the most useful weapon for those who possess it and the object of envy of those who are without it.”

“With gold one can buy the most upright consciences and we can fix the value of every stock the price of every merchandise, one can lend it to states that afterwards one holds at ones mercy.”

“The other great power is the press. By ceaselessly repeating certain ideas, the press in the end makes them considered as truths. By an indefatigable campaign in favour of the Democratic form of government, we shall divide the Gentiles among themselves in political parties, we shall thus destroy the unity of their nations, they will have to accept the law of our bank, always united, always devoted to our cause.”

“We will push the Christians into wars, by a judicious exploitation of their pride and stupidity. They will massacre each other and thus make more space where we can place our own people.”

“Let us use all our force to replace the circulation of gold by that of paper: our banks will absorb the gold and we shall decide then what value the paper money will have, this will make us masters of every man’s existence.”

Unless I’m completely naive, I think that even the most ardent sceptic would grudgingly concede, that the ideas Reichorn advocated a hundred and fifty years ago, have been carried out to this very day. In short the average person has unwittingly allowed themselves to become subtle slaves to the money power.

Yours Sincerely Thomas Paine

Personally, I think Thomas is a bit naive. He underestimates the stupidity of the sheeple, in the face of the endless repetition of fake news. Look how for instance the morons are responding like particularly stupid pavlovian dogs to the following lies in recent years:

911 was done by poorly trained Saudi Arabians so we invade Iraq, which had WMDs

Libya was ruled by an evil dictator so in the name of democracy we free the poor oppressed people from their free education, health and housing and accidentally, ISIS appears

Syria is still ruled by an evil dictator which its people hate, so we’re in the process of freeing them, but somehow whenever we free an area, the people run away from us and toward the “regime forces”

The Russians are coming and responsible for everything including ripping up my homework, because the media told me they were

And on and on and on and on.

Aren’t sheeple just the biggest dumbfucks in the whole wide world.
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March 10, 2017 5:30pm
- Nev.
  
  You know you can change your name back to Reid by going to profile and entering it in the nickname field, then selecting it from the drop down box?
  
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  March 10, 2017 5:55pm
  - AlphaBetSoup
    
    Like this.
    Nev.
    
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    March 10, 2017 5:56pm
    - Nev.
      
      Don’t tell Griff.
      Nev.
      
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      March 10, 2017 5:58pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Reid3:
        
        I think you should follow Nev’s advice quickly and change “Reid3” to “Reid” – otherwise Stephieboy might take advantage of the opportunity to become a Reid impersonator!
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:19pm
      - reid3
        
        You mean he’s going to start calling people sheeple and expose the true evil behind Killary Nosty?
        
        Or do you mean my cc is going to start showing debits to Soros Purple Revolution Inc, c/- Obama House?
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:43pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Reid:
        
        You mean he’s going to start calling people sheeple
        
        I think the bigger risk you should be worried about is that “Reid” suddenly starts commenting on St Lukes outings and posting pornographic links!
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:49pm
      - reid3
        
        stupidboy needs to get my email first Nosty.
        
        Actually considering “he’s” from DARPA that’s not a problem for them, but they have told me they actually hate this experiment, it was an Obongo idea you see, and they have positively responded to my alerts when he goes offline due to the defective Chinese wurzenflugels, so I’m fairly confident “stephie” won’t be coming anywhere near Reid.
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:59pm
  - reid3
    
    Yes Nev, and I could get my old account back simply by resetting my password. But I don’t care what my name is, I don’t care what my comment count is, that’s irrelevant. I only care who reads what I say, the accuracy of it and whether or not it makes people think twice about what they previously thought was the position on the topics I post on. And it’s irrelevant to me whether it comes from me or from someone else, you, EAD, stephie or anyone else. (I’m still waiting for stephie to say something like that, BTW.)
    
    Luckily I also don’t care about what people think as I do this, otherwise I’d probably get quite depressed about the whole thing. But I don’t care because I only post about 1% of what I read and talk about only about 10% of what I know, and the reactions I get when I touch on subjects that challenge the sheeple are nothing compared to what they’d do if I started talking about the other 90%
    
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    March 10, 2017 6:15pm
- SPC
  
  How come Jews allow themselves to be divided between different political parties – whether in diaspora or within Israel?
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:31pm
  - reid3
    
    SPC normally you don’t understand anything at all about a comment I’ve posted.
    
    This is another of those times.
    
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    March 10, 2017 6:40pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/90297569/five-kids-in-a-house-bus-with-nowhere-to-go

Just wondering who held a Gun to this couple’s head and forced them to have FIVE fucking children??
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March 10, 2017 5:35pm
- nasska
  
  Reminds me of a religious coot I worked with many years ago. He & his wife had eight kids & every time another one turned up he’d piously state that “the Lord will provide”.
  
  The “Lord” didn’t but the taxpayer did!
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:24pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Nasska:
    
    After about three years of living in a house bus as a way to get ahead with the family’s savings, Calder is now desperate to find a suitable spot to park the home she lives in with her five sons, aged 1-15 and husband Israel.
    
    They should park outside Farmers on Trafalgar St in Nelson. Lewis Stanton would love some extra company!
    
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    March 10, 2017 6:33pm
    - nasska
      
      It could become a proper little commune yet Nostra. We must find out how stigie feels about the possibility of an expansion. 🙂
      
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      March 10, 2017 6:38pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        And there’s this article:
        
        Nelson vagrant Lewis Stanton, who sleeps outside the Nelson City Council offices, has invited other homeless folk to spend Christmas with him outside Civic House.
        …
        Stanton has been joined by a travelling musician Leonard Saies-Allen.
        
        A travelling musician!
        
        We could arrange for Penny to advise all 9 of them (Lewis + travelling musician + family of 7) on how to live with a limited water supply. Let it never be said that Kiwibloggers are a heartless bunch!
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:42pm
    - stigie
      
      Yes Nostra, i can just imagine that, a fucking house bus with a chimney, more shit on the street and footpaths..?
      
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      March 10, 2017 6:41pm
      - nasska
        
        If you fenced off part of the road outside Farmers next to the housebus then Lewis could be reunited with his horse. 🙂
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:47pm
      - stigie
        
        Nasska:- Dont know what they would do in the middle of winter to keep warm unless the housebus with a chimney has an approved clean burning fire that doesn’t emit smoke, mine you Lewis has so much shit and blankets around him so nothing should be a problem. Just dont come in and shit up my back yard !~
        
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        March 10, 2017 6:58pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stigie:
        
        Dont know what they would do in the middle of winter to keep warm
        
        I imagine they’ll do the same thing to keep warm this winter as the thing they did in previous winters to produce 5 boys!
        
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        March 10, 2017 7:02pm
- howitis
  
  Cry cry cry. Folded arms pictures. Always a bad sign.
  
  A woman of 33 with her husband 27 and FIVE kids. One is aged 15 so either a)she was married before and had kids then started over again with a younger model or b) of she was sexually active with a boy of 12. (27 less 15). Either way she was breeding at 18 and at 33 still churning them out but it is not her fault.
  Kids 15,12,7,3,1.
  She is regular baby factory.
  
  They bought a house bus. Then spent two years in her dads driveway until he asked them to leave. Mmmmm.
  They went to a caravan park but ‘moved on after a dispute’. Several other sites mentioned.
  
  Few other facts are presented but this is MSM bread and butter BS. It would be even better if maybe she ‘won’ the second husband on ‘the bachelor’. In fact we don’t know how many fathers/sperm donors have ‘contributed’.
  
  I can’t be bothered looking up facebook but there will be a whole backstory. She has even churned out 2 more kids while living in a bus while ‘trying to get a head’.
  
  TOP Cat Gareth lived in a house bus. Maybe he can give her economic advice 🙂
  
  This chick has spring loaded thighs but is so stupid she actually lets the world know it.
  
  PS. is Blinglish going to look into WFF?
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:57pm
reid3

In a rare, candid conversation, Abby Martin interviews a former Israeli Army combat soldier who served as an occupier in Palestine’s Hebron City.

Eran Efrati spent years as a sergeant and combat soldier in the Israeli military, but has since become an outspoken critic of the occupation of Palestine and Israeli apartheid.

Efrati gives explosive testimony on the reality of his service and explains how war crimes are institutionalized, as well as how systematic the oppression against Palestinians really is in a war of conquest that will no-doubt be accelerated under the Trump Administration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLNAlnQ4hvLtTAJcIEcfvfHbMv2omP_rHC&v=1Rk1dAIhiVc
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March 10, 2017 5:57pm
- reid3
  
  What the bet the people who’ve downticked haven’t even listened to the interview.
  
  From my previous, above:
  
  “The other great power is the press. By ceaselessly repeating certain ideas, the press in the end makes them considered as truths.”
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:18pm
  - nasska
    
    ….”What the bet the people who’ve downticked haven’t even listened to the interview.”…..
    
    A prophet has no honour in his own country Reid. 🙂
    
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    March 10, 2017 6:33pm
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      I tell myself that about ten times every night nasska.
      
      Then I get angry.
      
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      March 10, 2017 6:38pm
reid3

1953 Moscow Coup Against The Jewish Oligarchs – Letter From the Soviet Union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0cjhN-cVdA
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March 10, 2017 6:33pm
- reid3
  
  What’s the bet the people who’ve downticked haven’t even listened to the interview.
  
  From my previous, above:
  
  “The other great power is the press. By ceaselessly repeating certain ideas, the press in the end makes them considered as truths.”
  
  Thanks to the downtickers BTW, for giving me another opportunity to embed that message into your subconsciousness.
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:54pm
- mikenmild
  
  Poor old Joe Stalin. Murdered by the Jews was he? Are you sure you haven’t alleged he was Jewish himself in another of your loony posts?
  
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  March 10, 2017 6:55pm
  - reid3
    
    slimey, if you had a choice between being a looney or an arsehole, which would you select?
    
    Oh wait, you already have.
    
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    March 10, 2017 7:02pm
    - mikenmild
      
      Are you sure you haven’t previously told us that all the Bolshevik leaders were Jewish?
      
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      March 10, 2017 7:08pm
      - reid3
        
        Boy aren’t you slippery mm. Why don’t you ask a question relevant to that post since you seem keen on it. Go on.
        
        Waiting….
        
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        March 10, 2017 7:22pm
mikenmild

I hadn’t been for a walk along Lambton Quay for a while, but today I noticed a new Vietnamese Restaurant – called ‘Where’s Charlie’. Really?
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March 10, 2017 7:00pm
sooty

The dirty little tabliod says that lordes new song will not play on the radio! Thank you lord! Edit to add new.
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March 10, 2017 7:06pm
- Nostradamus
  
  This one is for GoVege:
  
  CNN presenter eats human brain while filming with cannibal sect
  
  CNN presenter Reza Aslan has been heavily criticised after he ate part of a human brain while filming with a Hindu cannibal sect in India.
  …
  Aslan, an Iranian-born religious scholar, was with a group from the Aghori sect when he was invited to eat cooked brain tissue during a ritual.
  
  Aslan, 44, met the Aghori in the holy Hindu city of Varanasi in Uttar Pradesh, where they smeared the ashes from cremated human bodies on his face. He then drank an alcoholic drink from a human skull, before eating what he was told was human brain.
  
  At one point he fell out with the Aghori guru who shouted: “I will cut your head off if you keep talking so much.” The guru began eating his own faeces and then hurled it at Aslan.
  
  Wow – it sounds like an eventful dinner party!
  
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  March 10, 2017 7:12pm
  - Nev.
    
    The thought Kuru never came into his head, not surprised.
    Journalists these days know nothing.
    
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    March 10, 2017 7:19pm
Manolo

The aging philanderer is “worried”:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/bill-clinton-nationalism-235894

Making his first major public appearance since his wife lost last year’s presidential election, Clinton did not discuss President Donald Trump specifically, but warned repeatedly against “us versus them” thinking that he said has become such an active part of politics in America, in the Brexit vote, in the Philippines and throughout Europe.
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March 10, 2017 7:15pm
- reid3
  
  Yes well if I had all that evidence on that server Weiner had, and I knew Weiner and Huma were singing like canaries in exchange for a deal, I’d be pretty worried myself.
  
  Luckily however, according to the WaPo, the NYT and stephie, none of that’s happening, at all.
  
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  March 10, 2017 7:26pm
  - Nev.
    
    Huma must know some stuff.
    I predict suicide by 3 shots to the back of the head.
    
    Jilted lesbian lover remorse.
    Nev.
    
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    March 10, 2017 7:39pm
    - reid3
      
      They both do. Millions of emails on Weiner’s server. It was a backup lest they get burned.
      
      Point is, Trump is going after it, White Hats in the FBI are too.
      
      Will the Deep State shut it down.
      
      They’re trying daily as we speak.
      
      Will they succeed.
      
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      March 10, 2017 7:43pm
      - gump
        
        A backup?
        
        He didn’t even know the emails were on the laptop – they only got discovered because he was being investigated for something entirely unrelated.
        
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        March 10, 2017 9:58pm
    - reid3
      
      She was Mossad Nev.
      
      She started in the same intern intake Lewinsky did.
      
      One for Bill, one for Killary.
      
      Wikileaks is also Mossad.
      
      Thousands of pedo arrests at the lower levels since Trump took office.
      
      Trump had a presso announcing a crackdown on it recently.
      
      Media isn’t covering it.
      
      2+2 = what
      
      Apparently, the sheeple are awaiting the MSM to explain it to them.
      
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      March 10, 2017 7:46pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Reid’s maths: 2 + 2 = 17
        
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        March 10, 2017 7:49pm
      - realityczech
        
        mikenmild straight in there defending the pedos. Why is that ?
        
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        March 10, 2017 8:01pm
      - reid3
        
        Interesting she and Lewinsky were in the same intake isn’t it mm.
        
        That means nothing of course.
        
        What a coincidence.
        
        Are you a coincidence theorist?
        
        Or do you not even notice and just let it all fly over your pretty? little head?
        
        Then do some serious sneering later on.
        
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        March 10, 2017 8:02pm
      - Nev.
        
        Mikenmild isnt a coincidence theorist. Good to see you back mikey.
        
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        March 10, 2017 8:30pm
nasska

From: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/90225025/how-to-stop-devices-spying-on-you

…….”The exploits appear to emphasise targeted attacks, such as collecting keystrokes or silently activating a Samsung TV’s microphone while the set is turned off. In fact, many of the intrusion tools described in the documents are for delivery via “removable device”.”…..

My wife & I are going to have sex in front of the TV tonight.

Just to make any intelligence agencies who may be watching us through our TV a little nauseous.
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March 10, 2017 7:52pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Nasska:
  
  My wife & I are going to have sex in front of the TV tonight.
  
  It sounds like you’ve been planning this for a while?
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:01pm
  - nasska
    
    At my age spontaneity is a thing of the past Nostra. 🙂
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:04pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      Your timing is perfect.
      
      The rise of ‘clean sex’: Lubricants made from coconut oil, sex toys made of crystal
      
      They call it the “trillion dollar industry”, so perhaps it was only a matter of time before wellness – and the obsession that comes with all things “clean” – moved into the sex market, too. But from lubricants made from coconut oil to vegan condoms, crystal sex toys and even an aphrodisiac made from cannabis oil, clean sex has never been bigger.
      
      Let us know how you get on!
      
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      March 10, 2017 8:09pm
      - nasska
        
        I’m certain that the fact that no animals were harmed during the testing of these organic products will earn them the endorsement of both Johnboy & GoVege. 🙂
        
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        March 10, 2017 8:13pm
    - stigie
      
      You’ll need to keep up the pills and ointment Nasska ole chap..?
      
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      March 10, 2017 8:55pm
Nostradamus

The next battleground for social justice warriors – men’s toilets:

Albany bar and restaurant Six Degrees has responded to accusations of sexism by removing urinals from the men’s toilets which were criticised on social media on International Women’s Day.

How ridiculous…
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March 10, 2017 8:16pm
- reid3
  
  Point is nasska, media’s not ridiculing them, as it should. It’s encouraging them, more and more, as it has been for years. Not necessarily in this, but in other, ridiculous areas, till those became de rigeur, and they move to the next, and the next, and the next, and the next. Last one like this is the wedding cake for gays refused by the Christian bakers. BTW.
  
  Slice the elephant.
  
  How do you eat an elephant?
  
  A slice at a time.
  
  Social engineering.
  
  Been telling the sheeple for ages it’s always going on.
  
  You’re looking at it.
  
  Victim isn’t you.
  
  It’s your kids.
  
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  March 10, 2017 8:43pm
  - reid3
    
    Obviously I meant Nosty.
    
    To the downticker.
    
    Do you deny it’s been happening?
    
    Go ahead, if so.
    
    Go on.
    
    I dare you.
    
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    March 10, 2017 8:53pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Real life or a chapter from a John Le Carre novel?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/09/christian-candy-adviser-linked-to-litvinenko-and-his-alleged-killer
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March 10, 2017 8:58pm
- Nev.
  
  Next Bond film Maggy.
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:49pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    No gorgeous female in the plot yet….
    s’pose it is time for a gay Bond tho’
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:53pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Maggy:
      
      it is time for a gay Bond tho’
      
      You’re a bit late to the party. Hollywood has the gay theme all sorted!
      
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      March 10, 2017 10:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        oh no, I neglected to take my kiddies to gender-diversity movies.
        
        But somehow, I think the Care Bears and Rainbow Bright flicks were enough to corrupt their tiny little minds.
        
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        March 10, 2017 11:02pm
reid3

Attribution of cyber-intrusions and attacks is nearly impossible. A well executed attack can not be traced back to its culprit. If there are some trails that seem attributable one should be very cautions following them. They are likely faked.

Hundreds if not thousands of reports show that this lesson has not been learned. Any attack is attributed to one of a handful of declared “enemies” without any evidence that would prove their actual involvement. Examples:

Russian Hackers Blackmail US Liberal Groups After Stealing Emails And Documents, Report Says
US officially accuses Russia of hacking DNC and interfering with election
Iran hacked an American casino, U.S. says
Iran suspected for the attack on the Saudi Aramco
North Korea ‘hacks South’s military cyber command’
Official: North Korea behind Sony hack

In June 2016 we warned The Next “Russian Government Cyber Attack” May Be A Gulf of Tonkin Fake:

All one might see in a [cyber-]breach, if anything, is some pattern of action that may seem typical for one adversary. But anyone else can imitate such a pattern as soon as it is known. That is why there is NEVER a clear attribution in such cases. Anyone claiming otherwise is lying or has no idea what s/he is speaking of.

There is now public proof that this lecture in basic IT forensic is correct.

Wikileaks acquired and published a large stash of documents from the CIA’s internal hacking organization. Part of the CIA hacking organization is a subgroup named UMBRAGE:…

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/03/cia-leak-russian-election-hackers-may-work-in-langley.html

Aren’t sheeple stooooooooooooopid.
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March 10, 2017 9:06pm
Nev.

Reids back.
Must be a full moon
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March 10, 2017 9:10pm
Nev.

Bobbie Gentry M I S S I double S I double P I
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March 10, 2017 9:22pm
Viking2

Former Porirua Mayor and Labour exile Nick Leggett scraps plans to run for Parliament.

Former Porirua Mayor Nick Leggett says he has dropped plans to seek the National Party nomination in Mana.

Leggett said he no longer wanted to run for Parliament, but would help National with its election campaign this year.

“I’ve thought about it and I’m going to sit this one and focus on getting some non-political experience,” he said.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11815787

“I’m pretty keen to separate me joining the National Party from me wanting to be an MP.
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March 10, 2017 9:29pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Viking2:
  
  Former Porirua Mayor Nick Leggett says he has dropped plans to seek the National Party nomination in Mana.
  …
  “I’m pretty keen to separate me joining the National Party from me wanting to be an MP.”
  …
  Leggett said he wanted to “earn his political stripes” with National before deciding whether to run as a candidate in future.
  
  I really wish politicians would stop treating people like simpletons.
  
  Let’s tell it like it really is: Leggett has been told not to bother as he’s not National’s preferred Mana candidate. In other words, he doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:45pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Let’s tell it like it really is
    leg it, Leggett
    
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    March 10, 2017 9:56pm
- reid3
  
  I’m pretty keen to separate me joining the National Party from me wanting to be an MP.
  
  Given most people aspiring to politics sort that all by themselves without any involvement apart from family, either Nick’s a flake or he’s really saying that while he’s fine with whatever it is he’s attempting, he needs time to figure out how to “manage the message” so the voters don’t get “the wrong impression.”
  
  What a guy.
  
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  March 10, 2017 9:48pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Reid:
    
    “I’m pretty keen to separate me joining the National Party from me wanting to be an MP.”
    
    I’ve figured out a solution for this split-personality dilemma. Nick Leggett should remain a National Party member (since that’s clearly important to him), but stand in the Mana electorate as an independent (since that’s clearly important to voters). That way, voters won’t get “the wrong impression” since they’re probably already confused about what Leggett is doing, and (by voting) they get a chance to give him clear and unambiguous feedback!
    
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    March 10, 2017 10:05pm
Manolo

The US economy is picking up:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-idUSKBN16H0KA?il=0

U.S. employers hired workers at a robust pace in February, beating expectations, and wages grinded higher, which could give the Federal Reserve the green light to raise interest rates next week despite slowing economic growth.

Non-farm payrolls increased by 235,000 jobs last month as the construction sector recorded its largest gain in nearly 10 years due to unseasonably warm weather, the Labor Department said on Friday. February’s employment gains were revised up to 238,000 from the previously reported 227,000.
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