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kowtow

Such enrichment ,such diversity.

“Members of a Rotherham sex gang today yelled ‘Allahu Akbar’ in court as they were jailed for abusing a girl who fell pregnant aged 12 after being groomed with alcohol.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4184966/Child-sex-gang-members-shout-Allahu-Akbar-court.html
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February 3, 2017 8:03am
- Inandout
  
  Such genetic retards.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:18am
  - mandk
    
    It’s not their genes, it’s their religion.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:28am
    - Nukuleka
      
      Please don’t insult ‘religion’ in this way- it is their ‘ideologogy’.
      
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      February 3, 2017 8:45am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        Religion is a subset of ideology, mandk’s statement stands.
        
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        February 3, 2017 8:53am
      - Odakyu-sen
        
        No, it’s their culture, social values and politics.
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:18am
      - mandk
        
        I used the word “religion” advisedly.
        
        The religion of Islam is an evil and perverted practice.
        
        Faith is something else entirely.
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:44am
      - cmm
        
        Sorry I reported Odakusen by mistake.
        
        He is correct. The only reason these people are prepared to embrace this religion/ideology is because of their culture/values.
        
        If they had a Western value set (freedom of speech, be gay if you want to, women aren’t chattels…) then they would not embrace Islam.
        
        It does however become a vicious circle: Islam teaches intolerance, so it makes those values stronger which means the religion gets stronger too.
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:44am
    - Liberty
      
      No you are wrong.
      You are condemning all muslims for the actions of a few.
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:37am
      - cmm
        
        It is not just the actions, but also the attitude.
        
        While very few (say 1%) might be prepared to commit Jihad or kill gays or whatever, there are at least 20% that think it is acceptable.
        
        That makes for an environment where the baddies thrive.
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:47am
      - mandk
        
        You are being sarcastic, right?
        
        Much the same thing has happened in Rochdale, Peterborough and Oxford. And I daresay that these places are merely the tip of the iceberg.
        
        Moslems don’t properly respect their own women and girls. And they have no respect at all for non-Moslem women and girls.
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:50am
      - Fletch
        
        The problem is that the founder of their religion (whom Muslims are exhorted to believe was the perfect example) had a penchant for young girls and ‘married’ a 9-year-old girl. There’s really no comeback from that fact. It would be different if he was just a follower, but he started the whole thing.
        
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        February 3, 2017 11:26am
      - Liberty
        
        Mandk
        
        “You are being sarcastic, right?”
        No
        I stand by my post
        Yes there are Muslim extremist. There is also some Christians who are total fruit cakes.
        So why is there no condemnation of all Christians? History is full of appalling acts.
        Done under the Christian banner.
        Only a few years ago in Trump heartland KKK members would be out terrorising
        on Saturday night and Then attend Church on Sunday.
        By all means condemn Muslim extremist. But by condemning all is unhelpful and intolerant.
        
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        February 3, 2017 4:52pm
    - Inandout
      
      Did you look closely at their mug shots?
      
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      February 3, 2017 10:25am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I’ve posted something on this down below… in reply to stephieboy playing “look squirrel”.
  
  During the investigations into how the Rotherham sex scandal developed, Home Secretary Theresa May blamed the failure of the authorities to investigate the numerous complaints on “institutionalised political correctness”.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
  
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  February 3, 2017 12:31pm
- BeeSting
  
  OINK OINK
  
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  February 3, 2017 11:58pm
Andrei

So Malcolm Turnbull helped Barack Obama lay a landmine for the incoming Trump Administration last November

No doubt he thought he was being very clever dumping “refugees” that Australia didn’t want on the USA

But the chickens are coming home to roost
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February 3, 2017 8:08am
- PhilBest
  
  Of course Turnbull and other “centre right” politicians around the world won’t see it this way, they were just participating in the great new enlightened era of cultural marxism triumphant. Trump was unthinkable. Now the same “centre right” politicians all around the world are trying to keep scoring brownie points from the lefty media talking heads and the beautiful people, by adding their voices to the chorus of outrage.
  
  Its a similar situation with that UN Resolution against Israel on which National here, did Obama’s bidding.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:16am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Exactly, they are all Globohomos worshiping at the Temple of Dildolech, a Progressive demon deity.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:55am
- Viking2
  
  Yep and given what they do to longtime Kiwi Australian’s they deserve that and much more.
  
  Trump has started doing the dirty work Key was too afraid off.
  
  Yey
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:17am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    And there is SO much more to come.
    
    Double yey!
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:57am
  - Sir Leslie Bottocks
    
    Yep and given what they do to longtime Kiwi Australian’s ..
    
    do I hear violins … diddums?
    
    Fuck a duck you’re a dumb, if admittedly persistent, cunt. What is it with this sense of entitlement that so many Kiwis think they deserve to have all the rights and privilege of being an Ocker citizen, without actually being one! They can get fucked as far as I’m concerned. Never heard of personal responsibility, eh? Geez wayne!
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:09am
- Lance
  
  Hell, since it’s Friday, lets just make shit up.
  Andrei leads the way
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:17am
- holysheet
  
  Yes I agree.
  What person in their right mind would agree to take another countries shitheads in exchange for lesser shitheads?
  They must have had an inkling that the end is in sight for both of them. Obumma was not very smart and this is more proof that his presidency was a total fuckup. Don’t blame Trump for any of this.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:17am
  - kowtow
    
    Bottom line is Trump is standing up for American taxpayers and national interest. Neither Obumma nor Tuncoat stand up for theirs.
    
    Nor does Merkel or any other “refugee” hugging pollie or celebrity.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:26am
    - Lance
      
      Hell yes.
      Time for the whole world to have one big arse pissing contest.
      What could possibly go wrong?
      
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      February 3, 2017 8:28am
      - kowtow
        
        What could go wrong , hmmmmm……
        
        tube and bus bombings, truck attacks , restaurants and theatre attacks, massive tax bills, budget deficits, sex attacks, social unrest , increased security, law changes ,court costs , unemployment…….,
        
        Anything else?
        
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        February 3, 2017 8:34am
      - rangitoto
        
        Kowtow. You forgot no go areas for police, ambulance and fire fighters.
        
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        February 3, 2017 10:28am
  - PhilBest
    
    I don’t think either the triumphant cultural marxists or the new PC “centre right” see “the end in sight” – everything they did was just part of the long term agenda towards global utopia. And outside of Trump’s USA, most are just trying to stay the course banking on Trumpism as just a temporary aberration, confined to the USA.
    
    Turnbull is paving the way for Pauline Hanson to pick up a lot of new votes.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:36am
- wiseowl
  
  It’s great watching the response to this terrible deal and it may help tip Turnbull out.
  
  The media turning themselves into knots because the story is not matching their left brain narrative.
  It gets better everyday and it is interesting more people are starting to grasp what Trump is doing and support him.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:21am
  - PhilBest
    
    One of the most interesting things in Aussie a few months ago, was that Dick Smith, who is anti-immigration, came out publicly to declare support for Pauline Hanson, and furthermore, he said he had satisfied himself that she was NOT a “racist” at all and this had been nothing more than media smears all along!
    
    Why did I find it relatively easy at the time, to believe him, and certainly very easy now? The MSM needs destroying, and Trump is showing the way.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:40am
    - MCos
      
      “The MSM needs destroying, and Trump is showing the way”
      Wrong.
      North Korea, Iran & China are showing the way. If that’s the type of society you want for New Zealand then you can include me out.
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:28am
    - stephieboy
      
      Phil Best , MSM needs destroying ? ‘
      
      Like this ?
      
      http://images.slideplayer.com/25/7955980/slides/slide_9.jpg
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:32am
    - MCos
      
      So PhilBest when you say “The MSM needs destroying, and Trump is showing the way”.
      What exactly do you you mean?
      Or is it just some sort of slogan you haven’t thought through without thinking of the implications?
      
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      February 3, 2017 10:04am
      - PhilBest
        
        Maybe that is too strong – the MSM needs to reform itself, cut out the bias and the agenda-serving, and report facts.
        
        http://theothermccain.com/2017/01/27/steve-bannon-andrew-breitbart-and-the-humiliating-defeat-of-the-elite-media/
        
        Steve Bannon, Andrew Breitbart and the Humiliating Defeat of the Elite Media
        
        “The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while,” Mr. Bannon said.
        
        “I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.” . . .
        
        “The elite media got it dead wrong, 100 percent dead wrong,” Mr. Bannon said of the election, calling it “a humiliating defeat that they will never wash away, that will always be there.” . . .
        
        Asked if he was concerned that Mr. Spicer had lost credibility with the news media, Mr. Bannon chortled. “Are you kidding me?” he said. “We think that’s a badge of honor. ‘Questioning his integrity’ – are you kidding me? The media has zero integrity, zero intelligence, and no hard work.”
        
        “You’re the opposition party,” Mr. Bannon said. “Not the Democratic Party. You’re the opposition party. The media’s the opposition party.”
        
        Get it now?
        
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        February 3, 2017 11:37am
      - Nigel Kearney
        
        Republicans have to get their message to the public without it passing through a filter controlled by people who support the other side. Trump is doing that. Whether you call it ‘destroying’ them doesn’t really matter. He is destroying their ability to control and spin debate on political issues.
        
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        February 3, 2017 1:06pm
      - MCos
        
        You may recall it wasn’t merely the big newspapers such as the NYT & Washington Post that hammered Trump prior to the election, but multiple papers all over America both liberal & conservative endorsed Clinton or at least refused to endorse Trump.
        Throughout it’s history the Washington Post has been Liberal leaning. I suggest you read the autobiography of Katherine Graham one time owner for an insight into the past political leadership of America over a long period.
        By contrast Brietbart is an extreme right wing, small circulation muck racking tabloid. This quote by Mitt Romney could well apply to Mr Bannon “There’s nothing as vulnerable as seemingly entrenched success”
        
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        February 3, 2017 1:27pm
- Gabby
  
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  Turribull sure grabbed ole Chumpy by the pooseh. He dint like it Worst pooseh grab. The worst.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:40am
- MCos
  
  I know it’s a concept that Trump apologists find hard to grasp, but this refugee swap was in the works for months before it ever appeared likely that their man would become President.
  I see someone refers to them as ‘shitheads’. There, but for fortune go you, mate.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:11am
- LisaGinNZ
  
  Daniel Greenfield believes Pres Trump right to be angry at Aus PM:
  
  “Turnbull just saw a way to get rid of an irritating problem and didn’t care that the arrangement would poison relations with the next administration. And he should have.
  
  It wasn’t Trump who torched relations with Australia. It was Turnbull who torched relations with America. He knew that the next United States government would hate the deal and that he was making an arrangement with a lame duck who didn’t really have the authority to make it anymore.
  
  With the phone call, Turnbull had the opportunity to drop the deal once he saw President Trump was opposed to it. Considering the dubiousness of the whole thing, it would have been the sensible thing to do. Instead Turnbull prioritized dumping Muslim illegal migrants on America over his relationship with the United States.”
  
  more here if interested:
  http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/265683/president-trump-right-be-angry-australian-pm-daniel-greenfield
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:25am
  - stephieboy
    
    LisaGinNZ, deary me .
    
    Frontapage , like Infowars and WND hardly the repository of balanced ,fair minded and objective reporting.
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:38am
    - BeeSting
      
      OINK OINK OINK OINK OINK
      
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      February 4, 2017 12:02am
- SPC
  
  No Andrei, wrong in fact.
  
  Oz refuses to take people who come by ship to jump the queue. To discourage people from trying to do this. It makes no determination of their eligibility as refugees.
  
  The deal with the US is for the US to take 1250 of these provided they pass the US vetting test.
  
  The largest group of them are the Iranians, the others are largely Iraqi or Afghanistan. Those fleeing Iran are the some of the least likely to be terrorists, they did not want to remain in an Islamist country governed by its laws did they? And there is no historic relation between Iranian citizens and terrorism of the Sunni groups like IS and al Qaeda.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:34am
  - srylands
    
    You are mistaken. All the asylum seekers on Manus and Nauru have their asylum claims assessed by Australia. So on Nauru 941 people have been recognised as refugees and 254 people have been determined not to be refugees.
    
    The 941 are eligible for the deal. The US vetting test is not about determining refugee status.
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:47am
    - SPC
      
      Did not say that it was, the US vetting is over their safety/security aspect.
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:57am
    - SPC
      
      On the first point I should have been clearer, I was just focusing on the fact they reject all of those on the boats regardless of whether they recognise them as genuine refugees or not with a valid claim for asylum.
      
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      February 3, 2017 10:41am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    To discourage people from trying to do this.
    
    It’s not very effective discouragement if you then make special deals where they get to live in the US.
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:59pm
    - SPC
      
      Sure. If Oz is taking refugees from Central America in return maybe these should be going to Central America … .
      
      The best approach would be for UNHCR to take over Pacific camps and tell the refugees they are in the queue with refugees in other camps around the world.
      
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      February 3, 2017 2:14pm
oldpark

Interesting to watch the below average Angry Andy Little,the trade union installed so called Liebour Party Leader,and how he is going about recruiting has beens from the trade union movement. When we see ratbags like Willie Jackson, and the guy from the Police Union Gregg O’Connor come out of the cupboard to stand for a future defacto trade union Liebour Party Government,as envisaged by Angry Andy Little and his trade union puppet masters. One thing in NZs voters favour,to stop such a trade union master plan, to take over a country,sneaky Angry Andy’s bunch of losers are polling around 26/27%. Thought O’Connor,and Jackson had a bit more nous,as even rats don’t swim towards a sinking ship.
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February 3, 2017 8:13am
- Gabby
  
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  Labour party with unionists. Shocker.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:41am
Viking2

Election slogans will be funny.

Vote for Willie evernazi ( 25% Azenazi Jew) of the nasty party.

Occonor shoot em down Plodder
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February 3, 2017 8:20am
BarryB

Have just been listening to a few comments on RNZ about the mess that the waitangi trustees (and various hangers on) are in.
Theyve been unsuccessfully trying to run the waitangi weekend programme for years and years and I am finally coming to the conclusion that these people are definitely of inferior intellectual capacity.
Its as thought they WANT to prove that they are morons and it proves that maori culture is something we should all avoid at all costs – because it seems to always result in pissing everybody off – both maori and non-maori.
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February 3, 2017 8:20am
- alex Masterley
  
  They are not the sharpest knives in the knife block.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:25am
  - pdm
    
    Cunning though!
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:28am
- holysheet
  
  Nah its all about the money. Their shitty little marae will be crying poor now the taxpayers largess will be going somewhere else this year.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:26am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  BarryB,
  
  Do you think the Waitangi Trustees might be from one iwi? The Maori they are pissing off might be those from other iwi.
  
  It is illuminating to look at things from the “iwi level” rather than the “Maori monolith” level, I think.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:21am
  - BarryB
    
    I dont think I mentioned any particular iwi. I think theyre all fuckwits.
    Maori are still in tribal mode and they need to get into a sort of society mode and forget all this crap about iwi and tribes and all that troublesome shit.
    Also they need to get rid of their ideas about komatua as most opf them are dribbling all guys who are about as disconnected as most politicians.
    
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    February 3, 2017 10:52am
peterwn

So Bill English says he is not allowed to live in Premier House because he happens to have a house in Wellington. It is rather like a USA President not being allowed to live in the White House or a UK Prime Minister not being allowed to live at 10 Downing Street because they happen to have a house in Washington DC or London respectively.
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February 3, 2017 8:21am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Didn’t the supreme trougher Pompous Palmer have a house in Wellington when he kicked the dental school out because he wanted to live there?
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:35am
- Gabby
  
  Happens to have? You rekon he just found it in the pocket of an old frock coat or sutin?
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:46am
Lance

Yea
Trumps sticking it up all the other nations leaders.
We all know the US is so strong (or shortly will be) it doesn’t need allies anyway.
It doesn’t need intelligence sources because Trump knows better anyway and to hell with trade.
The US will stamp it’s feet and the world will fall over themselves to gift the US anything it wants.
Murica will be great again… hell yea.
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February 3, 2017 8:23am
- kowtow
  
  Karma.
  
  Turnbull should know what it’s like to get a sticking. After all he knifed Tony in the back.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:30am
- holysheet
  
  Why not? Trump was elected by the american voters to fix the internal problems they faced. The fact that their economy is that big, that a sneeze can fuck up the rest of the worlds economy, should be a wake up call for the rest of us.
  Trump is doing exactly what he was voted in to do. He might not be going about it in the PC way we have been used to for so long, but do it he will.
  Time for a big deep breath and see what the fall out will be.
  He can rightly say “I did it my way”
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:32am
- BarryB
  
  Well it just might wake a few people up – like the idiots who think the TPPA is such a great thing – when they see just how lucky they are that Trump killed it off.
  
  Trump is doing what all leaders should do – support their own country – as so should all leaders. All the TPPA was going to do was make places like NZ effectively slave states.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:33am
- Happychappy
  
  Yes and Andrew Little the media and the Left thought they may have pushed their own agenda by organising people to demand Bill English ring Donald Trump and condemn his action over the immigrant policy implemented by him in the US. Well the weak Leader as Andrew Little likes to say turned out to be a wise seasoned Politician that new a lot more than the fly by wantabe.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:41am
- ross411
  
  Fake news.
  
  Mexico has issued a statement Trump didn’t threaten them with troops. Directly quoting the Mexican president, not rumour.
  
  Turnbull did an interview where he stated he had a cordial discussion of various topics with Trump and Trump did not hang up on him. Direct statement with audio recording from Turnbull, not rumour.
  
  Maybe wait for facts to react to, rather than rumours. You are the problem with fake news, because you parrot it like an mindless troll.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:36am
  - stephieboy
    
    ross411, wrong ! The MSM Associated Press made it clear that it was” reported” that Trump threatened etc . It never said it as a fact .
    
    The MSM Independent cleared the issue up and saying indeed that the Mexican President did say Trump hat not threatened with troops.
    
    That is called fact checking before something “reported “becomes a fact !,
    
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-tells-mexico-to-take-care-of-bad-hombres-or-america-will-a7558496.html
    
    Contrast that with say Pizzagate or the Clinton body bag conspiracy.
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:54am
    - ross411
      
      If someone puts a fbi-noted pedophile symbol on their menu, and has an instagram of bound children and talk about abduction and similar things… it’s hardly not creepy and suspicious. Of course, as a muslim if not muslim supporter, your idol was a pedophile who had sex with a nine year old “wife” who he married if I recall correctly when she was 6 or 3 or some equally immoral age.
      
      But hey, troll troll troll your boat.
      
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      February 3, 2017 10:21am
    - Garbageman
      
      Oh goodie and just how long after all the newspapers worldwide had reported the other bullshit did they bother to actually verify all the headlines were yet more made up crap all of our own msm had both issues as front page news masquerading as truth and as yet still no retraction or reporting of the actual facts so the ill-informed still remain that way and the media got their latest lies about Trump blasted across the world and some people wonder why they are so hated internationally
      
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      February 3, 2017 2:01pm
Lance

@kowtow
All joking aside;
Turnbull may have done this or that BUT he represents a sovereign nation. Whats more a staunch ally.
there will be many that note this appalling behaviour as a slap in face for Australia.
So next time Australian soldiers will be asked to go off and put their lives on the line for the USA, maybe there will be less enthusiasm to do so.
A smart politician would have achieved what they want without publicly pissing all over a nations leader.
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February 3, 2017 8:35am
- holysheet
  
  When will you realise that the times have changed. Trump is virtually pulling up the drawbridge. They are sick of the expense of being the worlds cop and the associated costs. Telling the rest of the world to get fucked and grow their own balls is all Trump is doing. Make America great again will be the call for the next 8 years.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:39am
  - fernglas
    
    There’s an interesting article in the Age that points out that the benefits of ANZUS have been pretty one way; that on the occasions that Australia has asked for US assistance it has been turned down, and that the US has consistently refused to put a “one in, all in” clause in the agreement. I am sure the same would apply with us.
    So let the Americans pursue their isolationist policies by all means, but in doing so, recognise that they are yielding their role as leader of the Asia Pacific region to the Chinese. Is that what Trump and America want?
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:48am
    - Lance
      
      Indeed fernglas
      And if that is what happens then the US will never get the Pacific back again.
      Trump seems hell bent on burning bridges
      
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      February 3, 2017 8:55am
      - Inandout
        
        Can you honestly see the Pacific people giving up KFC for dim sims? Nah, the Yanks are too entrenched in the Pacific, and more importantly they share a common language with the Pacific people.
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:07am
      - kowtow
        
        “…..the US will never get the Pacific back …”
        
        Let’s see , Hawaii ,Northern Marianas,Palau,FS of Micronesia, American Samoa,Guam, Midway,Johnston,Howland, Baker,Jarvis and Palmyra , not to mention the whole west coast of the Continental USA and the Aleutians.
        
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        February 3, 2017 10:08am
  - Gabby
    
    Loadsa money in being world’s cop. Nice little representative democracy you got there chum, shame if anything nasty happened to it.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:50am
  - Lance
    
    Yep
    “Telling the rest of the world to get fucked”
    That’s what Trump is doing all right, you have that nailed.
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:53am
    - holysheet
      
      Yep you got it in the end. Why did it take you so long?
      
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      February 3, 2017 8:59am
    - stephieboy
      
      Trump and his alt right followers contribution towards peace and stabilty in the world.
      
      Bomb the shit out of ISIS etc goes out with the bath water , eh ?
      
      History shows the world doesn’t quite work like that !
      
      http://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2013/09/usforpol.jpg?alias=standard_600x400
      
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      February 3, 2017 10:00am
      - BeeSting
        
        OINK OINK OINK OINK
        
        that is the sound of ISIS Corpses being processed
        by the HOGS
        
        OINK OINK OINK OINK
        
        There is another step after the pigs
        
        OINK OINK OINK OINK
        
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        February 4, 2017 12:04am
      - BeeSting
        
        OINK OINK OINK OINK
        
        that is the sound of ISIS Corpses being processed
        by the HOGS
        
        OINK OINK OINK OINK
        
        There is another step after the pigs
        
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        February 4, 2017 12:06am
EAD

Great news – Trump has removed so called ”White Supremacists” from the counter extremism programme.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-cut-white-supremacism-countering-violent-extremism-programme-neo-nazi-counter-extremism-a7558796.html

What this really means is that people will be able to talk about the many negative aspects of 3rd world immigration without landing themselves on court on spurious charges of “hate speech”.

Language has been so debased by the MSM, ridiculous hate speech legislation and Universities that it is now considered a “supremicist” view if one wants to live in a nation where the majority of people share the same background as they have done for millenia and as most of the world’s population does outside of European descended countries.

What many would have you believe is “supremicism” is really just “normality”
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February 3, 2017 8:35am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  OMG, EAD!
  That would make the vast majority of Japanese, Koreans, Chinese and Indians “supremicists.” (Feels a sudden need for a cup of green tea and a lie-down.)
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:23am
  - stephieboy
    
    EAD and Odaku-sen, is this the new ” normal”
    
    https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Br_YDTSCAAAFFuO.jpg
    
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    February 3, 2017 10:06am
- SPC
  
  All EAD has to do is to avoid open anti-semitism and then his out and pride nationalism receives a standing ovation.
  
  But he just cannot resist identifying Jews as the source of the multi-culturalism threat to nationalism – their wealth and their place in academia, media making them the most able and best placed proponents for (skilled worker) immigration. And as opponents of discrimination – equally well placed and able proponents for civil liberties and human rights.
  
  Thus the Jewish threat to discriminatory nationalism.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:55am
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  WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE
  
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  February 4, 2017 12:32am
G152

Trump is now the President of the US.
If he wants to renegotiate anything be prepared to renegotiate anything.
The Aussies got smacked.
Let that be a lesson our lot take to heart
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February 3, 2017 8:35am
- Lance
  
  The only conclusion other nations can take form that sort of line is;
  Avoid the US. Set up alternative arrangements and just leave the US to it’s own path.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:39am
  - holysheet
    
    Which is exactly what they want. But you snowflakes would have no one to beat up on if this happened.
    What part of “Make America great again” don’t you understand?
    
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    February 3, 2017 8:47am
    - stephieboy
      
      holysheet,
      
      What part ?
      
      >>> “Make America great again”?
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:12am
      - holysheet
        
        Stupidboy, if you want to come to the big boys room and debate with us, do try and bring some semblance of intelligence with you.
        Please get mummy to translate what you said above so we can understand what it is you are trying to say
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:32am
      - stephieboy
        
        holysheet , oh I now see what you mean,
        
        https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.199656711.4443/flat,800×800,075,f.u3.jpg
        
        Duh !
        
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        February 3, 2017 10:09am
Keeping Stock

So who is to blame for the fiasco with the ODI at Napier last night. One abandoned match is unfortunate, two is very careless, but three matches abandoned without a ball being bowled in the space of four years suggests there is an underlying problem.

There was only 6mm of rain yesterday, but instead of drying out, the outfield got wetter. The contrast of the outfield from aerial shots of unwatered ground around the park suggest that the outfield has had plenty of water applied in recent weeks as Hawkes Bay has wiltered in the hot, dry, windy conditions. Had it been over-watered?

NZC must now give serious consideration to immediately putting in a Plan B for the match scheduled for 1st March. I doubt that the punters of Napier and surrounds will shell out their hard-earned cash again this season to buy tickets for a match that possibly won’t take place, so transfer the match now to reduce the risk of possible embarrasment for NZ Cricket, not to mention financial disaster. NZC should immediately transfer the match to either Hamilton or Mt Maunganui, where there have been no issues with drainage.
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February 3, 2017 8:38am
- Don the Kiwi
  
  Or have Plan B – change of venue for the same day, or delay for one day,and stuff Sky.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:44am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I don’t believe Sky is the reason for there being no reserve day. It’s more likely the agreement that players’ associations have negotiated between themselves and their respective boards on the number of “down” days between matches.
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:52pm
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Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
Looking forward to a reply (on NBR – subscriber only) from Gareth Morgan to my following question:

“Gareth – do you and your Opportunities Party support transparency in the spending of public monies on private consultants and contractors (at both local and central government level)?

Do you agree that the following information on awarded contracts should be made available for public scrutiny?

* The unique contract number.

* The name of the consultant or contractor.

* A brief description of the scope of the contract.

* The contract start and finish dates.

* The exact dollar value of every contract, including those sub-contracted.

* How the contract was awarded – by direct appointment or public tender.

Kind regards

Penny Bright

‘Fair’, fiery and ferociously Independent future MP for Mt Albert 🙂 “
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February 3, 2017 8:41am
- fernglas
  
  Fair, fiery, ferocious! Alliteration is yet another tool in the hands of Ms Bright. Fairly fecking funny, folks. Feeble or flatulent? For a Friday, fantastic.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:52am
- Keeping Stock
  
  He hasn’t answered my questions either Penny, although to be fair, I haven’t sent them to him yet. But my questions are:
  
  * Should home owners pay their rates?
  
  * Should action be taken against home owners who wilfully refuse to pay their rates?
  
  * Should people who are engaged in legal action initiated by Councils to recover unpaid rates be allowed to stand for Parliament or Council?
  
  and lastly
  
  * Who you regard it as hypocritical to campaign as an anti-corruption and transparency watchdog when you are involved in multiple legal actions as a consequence of a decision to not pay your rates for more than eight years?
  
  I wonder what he’ll say 😎
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:55am
  - publicwatchdog
    
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    Missed this?
    
    Getting there ….
    
    ‘Activists – get things done’.
    _________________________
    
    2 February 2017
    
    “Speaking rights confirmed for Penny Bright at next Auckland Transport Board meeting 16 February 2017.”
    
    The next AT Board meeting is scheduled as follows:
    
    DATE: Thursday 16 February 2017
    TIME: 2.00pm
    VENUE: AMP Building, Level 17, Mairangi Room, 29 Customs St West
    
    “This is going to be, in my opinion, a HUGE development in ensuring that ratepayers’ and citizens’ lawful rights to transparency and accountability in the spending of public monies on private consultants and contractors, are fully implemented and upheld,” says ‘anti-corruption campaigner’ and 2017 Independent Mt Albert by-election candidate, Penny Bright.
    
    “My subject matter for this Auckland Transport Board meeting, is as follows:
    
    Having spent days over the Christmas break, studying the ‘Reasons for the Verdict of Fitzgerald J’, I wish to raise key concerns that arise from the facts and evidence, upon which Justice Sally Fitzgerald relied in her Judgment.
    
    ( https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/r-v-borlase-reasons/@@images/fileDecision )
    
    1) The need for Auckland Transport to fully comply with the Public Records Act 2005, particularly section 17, and to make transparent and available for public scrutiny the details of ALL awarded contracts, including those under $50,000, and including ALL those sub-contracted.
    
    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0040/latest/DLM345729.html
    
    17 Requirement to create and maintain records
    
    (1) Every public office and local authority must create and maintain full and accurate records of its affairs, in accordance with normal, prudent business practice, including the records of any matter that is contracted out to an independent contractor.
    __________________________
    
    (Please be advised that I have raised my concerns directly with the Local Government and Environment Select Committee, regarding the lack of transparency with Auckland Council Controlled Organisations (CCOs), which included Auckland Transport.
    
    Petition 2014/33 of Penelope Mary Bright and 55 others, and Report from the Controller and Auditor-General, Governance and accountability of council-controlled organisations.
    
    a) Here is the Local Government and Environment Select Committee’s Report on my above-mentioned petition:
    
    https://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/51DBSCH_SCR69296_1/924613ec7fb831c4e74bd062f73287ac2ceb5081
    
    b) Here is my evidence which I presented to the Local Government and Environment Select Committee:
    
    https://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/51SCLGE_EVI_51DBHOH_PET66634_1_A494444/90cd29f5accdd6dca8189fcddce8fa662e07a62b
    
    I would like members of the Board of Auckland Transport to please study both this Local Government and Environment Select Committee Report, and the evidence I provided, before I attend the AT Board meeting on 20 February 2017? )
    
    2) The need to cease the ‘collaborative’ model for contracting, given that it has proven to ‘breed corruption’.
    
    3) The need for the Board of AT to urgently review the ‘private procurement’ model for the provision of passenger transport services, and for related services provided by Auckland Transport, regarding ‘cost-effectiveness’, ‘transparency’ and ‘accountability’, bearing in mind the statutory obligations arising from the underpinning Act upon which Auckland Transport was established, namely the Local Government (Auckland Council) Act 2009:
    
    http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2009/0032/80.0/DLM2363310.html
    
    40 Operating principles
    
    In meeting its principal objective (as a council-controlled organisation) under section 59 of the Local Government Act 2002, and in performing its functions, Auckland Transport must—
    
    (a) establish and maintain processes for Māori to contribute to its decision-making processes; and
    
    (b) operate in a financially responsible manner and, for this purpose, prudently manage its assets and liabilities and endeavour to ensure—
    
    (i) its long-term financial viability; and
    
    (ii) that it acts as a successful going concern; and
    
    (c) use its revenue efficiently and effectively, and in a manner that seeks value for money; and
    
    (d) ensure that its revenue and expenditure are accounted for in a transparent manner; and
    
    (e) ensure that it acts in a transparent manner in making decisions under this Act and the Land Transport Management Act 2003.
    Section 40: substituted, on 1 November 2010, by section 31 of the Local Government (Auckland Council) Amendment Act 2010 (2010 No 36).
    …”
    _________________________
    
    Penny Bright
    ………
    
    ‘Anti-privatisation / anti-corruption campaigner’.
    
    (2017 Independent candidate Mt Albert by-election.)
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:25am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Mad, barking mad.
      And a thief of council resources.
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:51am
- simpleton1
  
  ….” transparency in the spending of public monies”…
  ….”available for public scrutiny?”
  
  In another brilliant showing of respect for democracy, Penny completely ignored the G.A. rules that it must approve all funds before they are released (over $100) by usurping the last $200+ in the bank account, without G.A. approval, ostensibly with the help of “Chris Glen” who was on the finance committee and was also a bank signatory.
  https://occupysavvy.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/penny-bright-fails-to-co-opt-occupy-auckland-again/
  
  “‘Fair’, fiery and ferociously” following the money
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:55am
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    Still relying on information from the, in my considered opinion, phony Suzette Maree Dawson, published on her own private website?
    
    Yawn ….
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:05am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      A predictable response Penny; all you do is abuse Ms Dawson, something which you told the NZ Herald in October 2014:
      
      I hate lies and I detest liars. I don’t do gossip or personal comments. I don’t do political dirt.
      
      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11350182
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:12am
      - publicwatchdog
        
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        ‘Abuse’ Ms Dawson?
        
        By giving my considered opinion, based upon my experience of Suzette Maree Dawson’s words and actions?
        
        🙂
        
        Nice try.
        
        Keep going ….
        
        Kind regards
        
        Penny Bright
        
        Proven ‘anti-privatisation / anti-corruption campaigner’.
        
        Future Independent MP for Mt Albert 🙂
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:29am
    - simpleton1
      
      Considered opinion of just take the money ! !
      Where are the minutes of the meeting passing the motion, approving the money for approved so called expenses?
      Corruption starts usually from small beginnings, a $ here and there
      Still rates unpaid
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:18am
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    Here’s my side of the story regarding the, in my opinion, totally phony Suzette Maree Dawson:
    
    http://www.indymedia.org.nz/articles/715
    
    Occupy Auckland wins Appeal against Auckland Council! | Aotearoa
    IndyMedia
    
    Penny Bright
    
    Proven ‘anti-privatisation /
    anti-corruption campaigner’
    
    2017 Independent candidate
    Mt Albert by-election.
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:11am
    - fernglas
      
      To be fair, ferociously fair, you didn’t really win the Occupy appeal, Penny. As I read the decision, the judge found that the injunction was too broad, but nevertheless should have issued, and the Judge said she would have amended it and left it in place but because the occupation was over, there was no point.
      Is that right?
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:29am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Don’t ask Penny for a fact fernglas; she only deals in “considered opinion”, which she thinks gives her licence to abuse people.
        
        Our Penny is not as lilywhite as she tries to paint herself; that’s my “considered opinion” anyway.
        
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        February 3, 2017 12:55pm
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  Ferociously fuckwitted.
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:58am
- Pateke
  
  Well, blow me down. Our Penny can afford the NBR!
  Pay your rates! Phoney, fanciful, foamer.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:07am
  - publicwatchdog
    
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    Should Auckland Council comply with its statutory obligations regarding transparency in the spending of public monies on private consultants / contractors?
    
    Or is Auckland Council effectively ‘above the law’?
    
    Penny Bright
    
    ‘CITIZEN – NOT SHEEPISH SLAVE’!
    
    Looking forward to working hard INSIDE the House, to help ensure the full and proper implementation and enforcement of the Public Records Act 2005 across NZ local and central government and the judiciary.
    
    Future Independent MP for Mt Albert 🙂
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:18am
    - Garbageman
      
      My guess is unless they need their water meters hacked you wont be seeing the inside of that particular House anytime soon, now speaking of houses…oh fk why bother
      
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      February 3, 2017 2:15pm
    - sooty
      
      Oh wouldn’t be great if someome starting asking Penny Bright questions when she is on stage at public meetings during the electioneering about her none payment off rates, watermeter tampering, etc. How is she going to fluster these questions in public. It would be an ideal time to serve any warrents, etc.
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:01pm
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  See?
  I Spray and Walk Away
  Rubbish Stays
  I walk away
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:30am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Why would even the eccentric Gareth Morgan want to waste his time replying to the likes of you?
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:49am
- rightoverlabour
  
  I have not yet, and will never read your drivel, but here’s a friendly”Fuck Off”, just in case you have missed my retorts recently. Thank god for “hidden due to low comment rating”!
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:29pm
Hugh Pavletich

AUSTRALIA: DELUGE OF (HOUSING) AFFORDABILITY DATA FORCES GOVERNMENT HAND … THE NEW DAILY

Deluge of (housing) affordability data forces government’s hand | The New Daily

http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/property/2017/02/02/housing-affordability/

Voter backlash and a slew of damaging data has made it impossible for the government to refuse to act on housing affordability, setting the scene for a May budget that unleashes superannuation fund money to fix the problem.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull pledged to the National Press Club on Wednesday that “ensuring more Australians can afford to buy a home is a priority”, although he warned there are “no quick fixes or silver bullets”.

It has been a tough two weeks for a party that until recently denied there was anything wrong, as report after report proved the ‘Australian Dream’ is getting out of reach. … read more via hyperlink above …

Sydney housing: New survey paints dire picture for Harbour City’s middle-income earners – ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-24/sydney-housing-affordability-nightmare-laid-bare-in-survey/8206676

Demographia in the news …

https://www.google.co.nz/?gws_rd=ssl#q=demographia&tbm=nws
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- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Housing affordability crisis: social divide affects a generation … Bernard Salt … The Australian
  (google search title if blocked)
  
  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/bernard-salt-demographer/housing-affordability-crisis-social-divide-affects-a-generation/news-story/56d1c6129f22442ea6cc38589fd92a30
  
  Men and women of Australia, we have a problem.
  
  That problem is housing affordability and the exclusion that this issue delivers to part of the community in our biggest cities. You will recall my October column in The Weekend Australian Magazine parodying the middle-aged tut-tutting of the spending priorities of the millennial generation. Perhaps it’s time to look at some of the facts behind the ¬affordability crisis.
  
  The best measure of housing ¬affordability at a global level is a ¬series of reports by the US-based consultancy Demographia. The 2017 report released in January looked at 92 cities with more than one million residents across nine countries comparing the median cost of housing with median household income. Sydney ranks second on this list after Hong Kong with a median multiple of 12.2, meaning that it takes more than 12 years of household income to buy a median house in the harbour city. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Big city house prices keep rising in double figures … The Australian
  
  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/property/big-city-house-prices-keep-rising-in-double-figures/news-story/849ada45f1a7a0ccc986d18d98a0296a
  
  Relentless price rises for homes in Sydney and Melbourne showed no sign of abating at the start of 2017, keeping the annual rate of capital city housing price growth above 10 per cent.
  
  The rises were widespread with prices during January increasing in all but one capital, Darwin. Hobart turned in the strongest ¬result with values rising 1.4 per cent, followed by Sydney (1 per cent) and Melbourne (0.8 per cent), according to researcher CoreLogic. … read more via hyperlink above …
  
  Aussie housing affordability far worse than Demographia claims – MacroBusiness
  
  http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2017/01/aussie-housing-affordability-far-worse-demographia-claims/
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:48am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    You may not have noticed Hugh, being so busy with your single issue campaign, but this is Kiwiblog, which suggests it is written mainly for a New Zealand audience.
    
    Or is the news that Auckland house prices are starting to soften inconvenient to your agenda?
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:03am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Couldn’t have said it better myself KS.
      
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      February 3, 2017 9:54am
  - Komata
    
    Ummm, Hugh.
    
    I’m sure that you are an ardent advocate for your cause , even a zealot, but, just so that you know (and yes, I have read several of your posts; but not recently) whenever I see your name and the ‘shouting ‘ all caps headline that accompanies it, I scroll past.
    
    Sadly, old chap, but you do come across as a ‘One trick pony’.
    
    Perhaps you need to widen your ‘interest base’?
    
    Just saying, for your edification.
    
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    February 3, 2017 10:47am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Sorry to disappoint you chaps, but the changes that occur in Australia on the housing policy fronts, are very relevant to us here in New Zealand.
      
      Put bluntly, if Australia gets on sorting out its affordability problem … and we fail to do so … this country is ‘toast.’
      
      Australia has a can do culture. We don’t … with just wind-bag politicians … such as the Minister of Hyperventilation Nick Smith.
      
      May I suggest you read The New Daily article from Australia posted above as well, very closely indeed …
      
      Deluge of affordability data forces government’s hand | The New Daily
      
      http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/property/2017/02/02/housing-affordability/
      
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      February 3, 2017 4:26pm
kowtow

Muslim men don’t like infidel wimmin having opinions.And of course the authoritarian Erdogan is right , you mustn’t upset Muslim petals by equating the religion of peace with terror, they might blow up in your face.

“This expression ‘Islamist terror’ seriously saddens us Muslims,” Erdogan replied, glancing sternly at the German chancellor.

“Such an expression is not correct because Islam and terror cannot be associated. The meaning of Islam is peace.”

Erdogan is another liar , Islam means submission.

https://www.thelocal.de/20170202/erdogan-tells-off-merkel-for-using-phrase-islamist-terrorism
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February 3, 2017 8:48am
Happychappy

I can tell you this not so bright penny I bet you don’t post the reply because he can’t stand people that think they are brighter than him.
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February 3, 2017 8:51am
- publicwatchdog
  
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  I would be more than happy to post Gareth Morgan’s reply (if he does) – except it will be on NBR ‘subscriber only’.
  
  My comment / ‘question’ is ‘mine’ – so I see no issue in posting it elsewhere.
  
  But in my view, I don’t have the same ‘right’ as it were, to post Gareth Morgan’s reply (if he does).
  
  I’m sure you understand 🙂
  
  Kind regards
  
  Penny Bright
  
  2017 Independent candidate
  Mt Albert by-election
  
  (Fearless user of ‘f’ words – eh fernglas? 😉
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:02am
  - simpleton1
    
    “But in my view, I don’t have the same ‘right’ as it were,”
    That never stopped Penny ripping things off or ignoring rules ! !
    
    In another brilliant showing of respect for democracy, Penny completely ignored the G.A. rules that it must approve all funds before they are released (over $100) by usurping the last $200+ in the bank account, without G.A. approval, ostensibly with the help of “Chris Glen” who was on the finance committee and was also a bank signatory.
    https://occupysavvy.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/penny-bright-fails-to-co-opt-occupy-auckland-again/
    
    Follow the money
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:10am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    But in my view, I don’t have the same ‘right’ as it were, to post Gareth Morgan’s reply
    
    You can parafraze it for us flat-broke folk.
    
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    February 3, 2017 10:28am
  - stigie
    
    I am so amazed that DPF lets the Aucklands biggest bludger Penny Bright post her narcissistic and deviant crap on here to make people think she is doing some good.
    You do have to feel sorry for the other decent ratepayers of Auckland who pay their way and the Auckland Council have done nothing to put this bitch away now for 9 fucking years. Pathetic !~
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:10pm
Southern Raider

So the snowflakes riot at UC Berkeley to distupt a public speaking event and no arrests are made. Windows of banks smashed, fires lit etc

Any Hollywood promotes this as the beginning of more to come.
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- B.L.Zeebub
  
  Just exercising their right to free speech, tough shit if you have a different opinion that they don`t like tho`.
  And Academia can`t figure out why no one takes them seriously anymore, they`ve lowered the bar so any gibbering simpleton can get a “university” qualification these days.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:03am
  - Ross12
    
    Another good one from Paul Joseph Watson, on the Berkeley riot
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwzffeICkP8
    
    Have a look at the middle aged git with the pepper spray.
    
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    February 3, 2017 9:53am
    - Komata
      
      Ross12
      
      Thank you. To me there are two very strange and usual aspects of this whole Berkley episode are that, despite it evidently occurring over a considerable time-period, there is a total absence of any police anywhere (or did I miss something) while none of the evidently large number of (supposedly) ‘strong’ males even tried to at least tackle one of the ‘thugs’ in an effort to try to at least remove his mask.
      
      Am I missing something, or is it possible that there was some sort of co-relation between these two points?
      
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      February 3, 2017 10:57am
      - Ross12
        
        Komata
        I saw a bit on TV last and the guy said the police were there, but as you notice, they must have been standing back.
        Also I read somewhere earlier that there were no arrests –unbelievable.
        
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        February 3, 2017 12:07pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Apparently mayor ordered police not to intervene. He could get in trouble over that.
        
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        February 3, 2017 6:13pm
Lance

Time for bullshit bingo
Let’s set the trigger level at say 50x “Snowflakes” and 20x “cucks”

Won’t take long
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February 3, 2017 9:01am
holysheet

Maybe the religion of peace has something when they ban the eating of pork.

The horror: Indian doctors remove 6-foot tapeworm through a patient’s mouth.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/2/14485176/six-foot-pork-tapeworm-taenia-solium-surgery-india-health

Look at the video of the removal.
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February 3, 2017 9:10am
- cha
  
  Maybe the religion of peace has something when they ban the eating of pork.
  
  Nah.
  
  It’s more they know not to shit where they eat.
  
  http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/vkvuknMxLInXEs3lXN1LDM/Muslim-mortality-paradox-and-the-importance-of-sanitation-fo.html
  
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  February 3, 2017 1:59pm
- B.L.Zeebub
  
  No, modern medical science has all but eradicated Trichinosis from the civilised western hemisphere.
  
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  February 3, 2017 5:17pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  The ancient proscription on pork was most likely due to Trichinoisis (a roundworm parasite) that is primarily caught from eating pork, it is so rare these days – only about 1 case per 10million per year in west) that there is almost no general awareness of it.
  
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  February 3, 2017 6:18pm
stephieboy

Israel also recognises this by restricting or banning its sale in certain Jewish and Muslim communities .
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February 3, 2017 9:18am
Manolo

The SMH on Turnbull-Trump:
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/wake-up-australia-the-us-alliance-has-never-been-our-security-guarantee-20170202-gu47hc.html

Adding insult to injury, the leak was swiftly reinforced by a hostile statement from the US president, in the form of his tweet that he’s still considering the “dumb deal” with Australia on refugees.
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February 3, 2017 9:19am
stephieboy

Manolo, as the US retreats further and further into pre WW2 isolationalism !

China and Russia will be very pleased .
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February 3, 2017 9:22am
Manolo

They never displayed an Obama flad, did they? 🙂
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2017/02/01/navy-special-forces-flew-trump-flag-convoy/97369810/
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February 3, 2017 9:24am
- Gabby
  
  He didn’t greenlight the big brave special forces murdering women and kids. Their pants are dripping in anticip
  
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  February 3, 2017 7:56pm
Manolo

The new Turkish sultan is taking the piss big time:
https://www.thelocal.de/20170202/erdogan-tells-off-merkel-for-using-phrase-islamist-terrorism

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Thursday rebuked German Chancellor Angela Merkel for using the expression “Islamist terrorism”, saying the phrase was not correct and saddened Muslims.

Speaking after a critical bilateral meeting with Erdogan, Merkel spoke of the need for Turkey and Germany to cooperate even further to fight against terror, including “Islamist terrorism” and Kurdistan Workers Party militants. Erdogan, sitting next to Merkel, was stony-faced as she spoke.

“This expression ‘Islamist terror’ seriously saddens us Muslims,” Erdogan replied, glancing sternly at the German chancellor. “Such an expression is not correct because Islam and terror cannot be associated. The meaning of Islam is peace.”
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February 3, 2017 9:28am
Jack5

Rotherham child-sex predators should “Allahu Akbar” in court.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4184966/Child-sex-gang-members-shout-Allahu-Akbar-court.html
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February 3, 2017 9:38am
- Manolo
  
  stephieboy reckons these animals are not Muslims.
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:45am
- stephieboy
  
  jack 5 and Manolo,
  
  like this sick “furry fetish ” pedophile ring ?
  
  Kenneth Fenske, 57, was arrested in Quakertown, PA and charged with rape
  
  5th suspect arrested in alleged pedophile ring in which men dressed up animals raped young boy
  
  Fenske allegedly dressed as a furry red fox and was called ‘Lupine’
  
  On ‘3 or 4’ occasions he stands accused of raping boy dressed as Tony the Tiger
  
  Four other men involved in the case have been arrested since last summer
  
  The investigation into the case is ongoing
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4170804/Pennsylvania-suspect-pedophile-ring-arrested.html
  
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  February 3, 2017 10:13am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    There is no need to play “oh look, other people commit sex crimes, its just not Moslems”.
    
    Yes, stephieboy, we all know atrocious crimes against young children are committed by perverts of all stripes and colours.
    We condemn them all – no excuses.
    If you want to be an advocate here for the Moslems in NZ., I suggest you swat up some facts…
    Check out how the British-Pakistan Muslim Council condemned the sexual abuses in Rotherham and the subsequent cover-up by authorities.
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:27pm
    - kowtow
      
      I was amused to read how the Hindus and Sikhs object to the broad brush term “Asian” when it comes to these Pakistani Muslim atrocities.
      
      They would like to see a bit more discrimination displayed in the descriptions and who can blame them?
      
      “Is it time to stop using the word “Asian”? In recent weeks Britain’s Sikh and Hindu communities have complained angrily about the use of the misleading term in reporting of the Rochdale grooming convictions of men of Muslim Pakistani descent.”
      
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html
      
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      February 3, 2017 1:50pm
Stars And Stripes

Killer released from prison just 38 days before murder, violation of pensioner
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11793247.
“In mid-2015 Stroobant was jailed on a raft of charges including burglary. He was released on December 8, 2015”.

This all sounds depressingly familiar really from a broken justice system.
Repeat offenders who then go on to commit an horrific crime.
In my opinion the government and courts need to take minor offending much more seriously instead of just wet bus ticketing it as just about all these psychopaths start at low level offending and work up to bigger things.
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February 3, 2017 9:44am
- waikatogirl
  
  Another COWARD attacking smaller, vulnerable individuals who can’t defend themselves.
  
  Put him in with that like minded arsehole who killed Blessie Platinko so they can fight it out. Let them worry about who is going to die first by violence they are happy to meter out to their vulnerable victims.
  
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  February 3, 2017 10:39am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    and just the one razor blade between them.
    
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    February 3, 2017 1:35pm
Scott

Is gay marriage now compulsory? Well yes it is.

Following an official information act request family first has received a reply from the Department of internal affairs stating the following –
“Since September 2015 the department has declined 22 out of 681 applications(marriage celebrant appointments) based on the intention of the part of the applicant not to solemnise same-sex marriages”

So you cannot have a conscientious objection to gay marriage. You either perform the ceremony or you lose your license. The only exception are for religious organisations whose governing body prohibits them from solemnising same-sex marriages.

Given Louisa Wall’s assurance that the redefinition of marriage would not accommodate against those who objected to same-sex marriages one wonders how long this exception will last?

The gaystapo will brook no opposition and no dissent!

http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=0cd68702160c587ec85116fce&id=a194d5afaf&e=17b35da938
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February 3, 2017 9:46am
- nasska
  
  …..’one wonders how long this exception will last?”….
  
  Wait until they get to the bit about compulsory sodomy & the annual re-education camps you’ll be attending every six months until you get to like it! 🙂
  
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  February 3, 2017 9:55am
  - RalphT
    
    Will Johnboy get a discount on the six months because of his work experience involving his flock?
    
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    February 3, 2017 10:46am
- wiseowl
  
  People who choose to be marriage celebrants should have every right to decline to marry Richard and Richard.
  The Registrar seems to be making judgements that a public servant should not be allowed to make.
  Legally I would say that it is discriminatory to tell someone they can’t be a celebrant because they don’t believe in same sex marriage.
  
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  February 3, 2017 10:20am
  - ross411
    
    You don’t force everyone who makes sausages to only make pork sausages. Some people just have more of an appreciation for pork sausages, and don’t care for beef sausages. This should not necessarily be conflated with hating or disagreeing with the right to make beef sausages.
    
    Substitute make sausage, for marry. Pork for male & female, and beef for male & male or female & female. And as long as you’re a private business, not a public funded one, you shouldn’t be forced to make tables, beef sausages, gay marriages or whatever.
    
    In no way should this post be construed as harbouring a hate and intolerance of tables, beef sausages or gay marriage.
    
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    February 3, 2017 10:26am
- Fletch
  
  Fixed. (Ok, it doesn’t quite make sense grammatically, but you know what I mean).
  
  “Since September 2015 the department has declined 22 out of 681 applications(marriage celebrant appointments) based on the intention of the part of the applicant not to ~~solemnise~~ sodomize same-sex marriages”
  
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  February 3, 2017 11:55am
- Fletch
  
  Seriously though – if these were a liberal business persons refusing to provide service for a Trump-related event, it would be seen as legitimate protest and the media would cheer them. Dissent is only fine when liberals do it.
  
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  February 3, 2017 11:59am
Manolo

Will liberals protest this ban?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/02/islamophobia-kuwait-imposes-visa-ban-on-five-muslim-majority-nations-including-pakistan

“The Kuwaiti Government has asked would-be migrants from the five banned nations not to apply for visas, as Kuwait City is worried about the possible migration of radical Islamic terrorists.”
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February 3, 2017 10:15am
- ross411
  
  Liberals have too much on their hands objecting to everything that Trump does, regardless of whether Obama did it first, or Clinton did it before him, or Reagan before him..
  
  It’s not about the issues, it’s about the inability to deal with not getting your way, and hating someone the group you identify chooses to irrationally hate.
  
  By the way, I have a message to you from the Liberals, straight from Berkeley. Shut your cake hole your dirty fascist, no-one want to hear your ideas, we’ll set something on fire and beat you with a metal pole and throw stones at buildings. 😆
  
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  February 3, 2017 10:28am
- Komata
  
  Re: ‘Will liberals protest this ban?’
  
  No chance; the Kuwaitii government won’t let them through the barriers, besides which they’re ‘Muslims’ so it’s quite OK for them to ‘look after their own’.
  
  It’s only ‘the West’ which is ‘offensive’ and should be targeted / destroyed .
  
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  February 3, 2017 11:43am
- stephieboy
  
  Jihad watch of course the most erudite , factual and fair of alt right media?
  
  Yeah right !
  
  http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.co.nz/2009/09/watching-jihad-watch_18.html
  
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  February 3, 2017 12:44pm
Dave Mann

Here is a neatly encapsulated illustration of American values and culture: they hold a political event called a ‘National Prayer Breakfast’ in which their president is involved. This in itself is ridiculous, but don’t lets dwell on this because it gets worse.

At this ‘prayer’ event their president – a man who used to be a reality TV star making fun of stupid people who literally asked for it – has mocked his successor who is a man who got to be the governor of California after making a name for himself killing lots of stupid people in films who literally asked for it.

The country where this happens has (still, just) got the biggest economy in the world and it also has the world’s heaviest armed military, backed up by the world’s most destructive nuclear arsenal.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/02/politics/donald-trump-national-prayer-breakfast/

I think it would be a very good thing if these people ‘pull up the drawbridge’ and let the rest of the world get on with their lives, frankly.
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February 3, 2017 10:29am
- Scott
  
  No it is not ridiculous. America was founded as a nation under God. So they pray.Apparently 80% of Americans would classify themselves as Christian.
  
  Also please do not think that secularism is normal. It is not. Most people throughout history have been religious. It is only more recently that we have decided that we are good enough to live without God. It is not working out too well in my opinion
  
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  February 3, 2017 11:18am
  - Fletch
    
    Yep, according to Pew Research, 84% of the world (5.8 billion people) are religious in some way.
    
    The demographic study – based on analysis of more than 2,500 censuses, surveys and population registers – finds 2.2 billion Christians (32% of the world’s population), 1.6 billion Muslims (23%), 1 billion Hindus (15%), nearly 500 million Buddhists (7%) and 14 million Jews (0.2%) around the world as of 2010. In addition, more than 400 million people (6%) practice various folk or traditional religions, including African traditional religions, Chinese folk religions, Native American religions and Australian aboriginal religions. An estimated 58 million people – slightly less than 1% of the global population – belong to other religions, including the Baha’i faith, Jainism, Sikhism, Shintoism, Taoism, Tenrikyo, Wicca and Zoroastrianism, to mention just a few.1
    
    http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/
    
    So if you’re not religious then you’re the one who is out of the ordinary.
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:13pm
    - rangitoto
      
      Thank goodness. I was worried being a pastafarian was a bit unusual.
      
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      February 3, 2017 12:34pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Fletch , I thought in your bubble chamber Muslims don’t count !
      
      Scott,
      “80% of Americans would classify themselves as Christian.”
      
      I suppose that might account for America’s ” low ” crime rate and Trump’s and Bill Clinton’s sexual indiscretions ?
      
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      February 3, 2017 12:36pm
      - Fletch
        
        Sure they do. I believe they still use the abacus 😉
        (sorry, cheap shot…)
        
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        February 3, 2017 12:38pm
    - Griff
      
      Argumentum ad populum (“argument to the people”) is a logical fallacy that occurs when something is considered to be true or good solely because it is popular. Undoubtedly many popular notions are true, but their truth is not a function of their popularity, except in circumstances where other factors ensure that popularity correlates with truth. The fallacy is the opposite of an appeal to the minority.
      
      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
      
      There are thousands of different religions.
      Only one can be right.
      What are the odds it is yours ?
      Billion or so to one .
      
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      February 3, 2017 12:41pm
      - rangitoto
        
        “Only one can be right.”
        
        True, but they can all be wrong.
        
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        February 3, 2017 12:51pm
      - Fletch
        
        I would pick the one where the religious founder proved himself by actually performing miracles, healing people, and rising from the dead. Of course, that is just my view.
        
        At least most people on the planet recognize that there is something greater than themselves out there – can see the fingerprints of a Creator.
        
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        February 3, 2017 1:12pm
      - Griff
        
        But Fletch
        You eat your god every Sunday.
        num num num
        Don’t it sound rabid when it is put like that .
        Cannibals gobbling zombie gods batman. .
        
        I am offline for another week or two .
        Cant wait to get back and see what nonsense has the trumpies all a twittered when I get back .
        More raving stupidity from the chief Orangutan without doubt .
        
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        February 3, 2017 1:34pm
      - kowtow
        
        “I am offline for another week or two .”
        
        Praise Jesus for small mercies.
        
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        February 3, 2017 1:52pm
      - Dave Mann
        
        Thank you. My point exactly.
        
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        February 3, 2017 2:25pm
      - rightoverlabour
        
        A bit like Gobal Warming?
        
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        February 3, 2017 9:38pm
    - Gabby
      
      Most of them are pretty bad at it.
      
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      February 3, 2017 7:52pm
  - rangitoto
    
    A quick search of the US constitution doesn’t appear to have the word god in it anywhere.
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:38pm
- cha
  
  a man who used to be a reality TV star making fun of stupid people who literally asked for it – has mocked his successor who is a man who got to be the governor of California after making a name for himself killing lots of stupid people in films who literally asked for it.
  
  Trump was plugging his own show. He’s the executive producer.
  
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  February 3, 2017 1:39pm
  - Dave Mann
    
    Yes, so I gather…. but this doesn’t in any way invalidate my point. Quite the opposite in fact; it tends to support my opinion that their society (and many of their leaders) are completely fucked.
    
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    February 3, 2017 2:47pm
Manolo

The battlelines are drawn:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/02/schumer-and-leadership-team-refuse-to-meet-with-gorsuch/

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and other Democratic Senate leaders refused to meet with Judge Neil Gorsuch Thursday.

The act appears to be an act of revenge against Republicans for holding the seat of the late Justice Antonin Scalia open and not holding a hearing for Obama Supreme Court appointee Merrick Garland.
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February 3, 2017 10:44am
- dime
  
  lmao losers.
  
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  February 3, 2017 10:54am
  - Gabby
    
    Gorsuck gonna geddis buster fillied.
    
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    February 3, 2017 7:50pm
SPC

Mexico wants a free trade deal.

An opportunity for us, to explore a CER deal with them, or include Mexico in an existing multi-party deal (P4 us, Singapore, Brunei and Chile).

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11794034
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February 3, 2017 11:02am
- Jack5
  
  Fine, unless it makes it harder for us to get an FTA with America.
  
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  February 3, 2017 11:23am
  - stephieboy
    
    Jack 5 , your serious about NZ getting a fair and serioius bilateral deal with Trump ?
    
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    February 3, 2017 12:41pm
Maggy Wassilieff

“We are awash with money up here”

-John Carter , Mayor of the Far North

How often have you ever heard a Mayor say such as this?

Time to put the money where it will do some good.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/323718/mayors-want-poverty-resources-targeted-at-zones
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February 3, 2017 11:46am
- Happychappy
  
  Maybe they listened to what Bill English said yesterday and has been saying for a while people are not targeting the right place with the money they are delegated. There needs to be better decisions to where the money should be targeted.
  
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  February 3, 2017 4:11pm
Stars And Stripes

A Wellington restaurant which employs refugees at its catering business has seen a spike in orders since US President Donald Trump’s ascension to power.
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/323707/wellington-business-open-to-refugees.
“”I said to the cooks yesterday, ‘There’s been a lot of news from the States, and it’s scary for you, but we’ve seen a really big spike in lunch orders.'”
That showed Wellingtonians wanted refugees here – and they wanted to help, Ms Stewart said”.

Easy to make nice claims such as this but due to the lack of any hard information such as numbers of orders in the article the conclusion is dubious at best.
If for example your orders have gone from 15 to 20 does this equate to a “really big spike” and if yes how can you ascertain that Trump is the cause?.
The piece is so soft on detail it looks more like a free advertisement.
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February 3, 2017 11:48am
- Inandout
  
  No mention that shitty weather makes people hungry.
  
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  February 3, 2017 2:04pm
- MCos
  
  Ring them up and ask them if it bothers you that much
  
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  February 3, 2017 3:59pm
Manolo

Will it change?
http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-02/democrats-permanent-outrage-at-donald-trump
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February 3, 2017 1:00pm
Fletch

Paul Joseph Watson on the Berkley riots – violence is all that liberals have left…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwzffeICkP8
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February 3, 2017 1:01pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch , a 32 year apparently shot and seriously wounded by a Trump supporter ,
  
  http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2017/01/21/man-arrested-following-shooting-at-uw-campus-demonstration/
  
  Rate a mention by Watson ?
  
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  February 3, 2017 1:15pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Trump supporter? Where does the article say that? I equally could guess at “friendly fire” from a fellow leftie comrade.
    
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    February 3, 2017 2:34pm
  - Manolo
    
    Reading comprehension problems, stephieboy?
    
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    February 3, 2017 2:37pm
cha

Going to be fun watching the two state solution contortions..

http://live.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446
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February 3, 2017 1:33pm
Manolo

RINO Arnie has an idea:
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2017/02/02/arnold-to-trump-lets-switch-jobs-so-nation-can-sleep-comfortably/
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February 3, 2017 2:18pm
- Lance
  
  Hell yes
  Arnie for Pres
  
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  February 3, 2017 3:25pm
skyblue

Just signed Labours petition to stop the Muslim Ban under Adolf Powell.
However, I cannot see the word ‘Muslim’ being mentioned specifically in the ban from 7 countries.
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February 3, 2017 2:45pm
JasonJohns

‘America was founded as a nation under God. ‘

It’s a Christian state, not a secular state. I don’t know what Trump thinks on the topic, but Mike Pence is a firm and long-time opponent of the fraud of evolution. Under his influence the indoctrination of children in this cultural Marxist ideology will hopefully be rolled back. Ken Ham has some good advice for the new administration on all this.
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February 3, 2017 3:12pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Sorry JasonJohns, you are wrong.
  
  The USA is not a Christian State…. ask any American Jew/Muslim/Hindu/Atheist to explain why.
  
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  February 3, 2017 3:34pm
  - JasonJohns
    
    Maggy America is a Christian and Christians have preeminence over pagans and atheists
    Read http://chalcedon.edu/faith-for-all-of-life/citizen-christian/americas-christian-foundations/
    
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    February 3, 2017 3:58pm
- SPC
  
  Learn the difference between nation and state.
  
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  February 3, 2017 4:17pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Not into Nation states then?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_state
    
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    February 4, 2017 5:31am
JasonJohns

Here’s Ham’s petition for a nationwide moratorium on the teaching of evolution in US schools. It is addressed specifically to Mike Pence and not Trump because while Trump still has some NYC values Pence has a solid record of opposing liberalism and supporting authentic science. https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/moratorium-teaching-evolution
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February 3, 2017 3:16pm
- stephieboy
  
  JasonJohns,
  
  the closing of the American mind courtesy Chrisitian Fundementalist theocratic Jesus land
  
  Pence can be regared as even more rightwing than Trump.
  
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  February 3, 2017 3:38pm
- nasska
  
  To be fair there’s a solid basis to Creationism.
  
  Man created God.
  
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  February 3, 2017 4:01pm
  - SPC
    
    While its plausible that God created the universe in which man evolved, the only gods we have “knowledge of” are those created by man (and in their own image, thus the nature of the Zionist and Islamist confrontation over territory on earth, rival tribalism).
    
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    February 3, 2017 4:15pm
SPC

Trump vs Berkeley.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/89053251/donald-trump-threatens-berkeley-funding-cut-after-snub-of-breitbart-writer-milo-yiannopoulos
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February 3, 2017 4:10pm
CharlieBrown

So why did we vote in nanny national over the previous socialists?

http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/146431-pool-fencing-rules-go-awry.html

National are f’ing hypocritical commies. At least labour were open about their stance, national are just two-faced dickheads.
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February 3, 2017 5:14pm
Jack5

Possibly helpful background.

On TVNZ news tonight, a Dr Huhanna Hickey, in a wheelchair, was speaking about her difficulties getting a marijuana product to ease her multiple sclerosis symptoms.

Dr Hickey has a Waikato University Ph. D. in law and “tikanga Maori” (something like “Maori way of doing things”). Her multiple sclerosis ended her early career plan – she had begun nurse training.

Besides practising as a lawyer she sits on the Human rights Review Tribunal. Dr Hickey’s biography details at Unitec, the 16,000-student tertiary institution in Auckland, where she is a research fellow, says: “Her work with the United Nations Adhoc group prior to the signing of the UNCRPD has led to indigenous people with disabilities being included within the preamble of the convention.” [UNCRPD is the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.]

Dr Hickey’s biography on the Law Society web site includes:

For her doctorate, she undertook a legal analysis exploring national and international treaties and perspectives from a Maori disability framework.

Her study looked at traditional Maori views on disabilities or whanau haua, which, she explains, translates to being more like family members with a unique difference than the English term disabled.

She also looked at how colonisation and Christianity have altered the way many Maori view disabilities in a contemporary context.

Good on Dr Hickey for not letting MS hold her back. Many will welcome her activity on medical marijuana.

A possibility for research arises for her. One theory is that MS incidence may be influenced by a vitamin D deficiency, and vitamin D generation is affected by exposure to sunlight and a person’s skin colour. It would be helpful to know if Maori suffered MS before colonisation and changes such as in clothing.
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February 3, 2017 6:26pm
- nasska
  
  We may never know the answer to that. A web search reveals that “People with multiple sclerosis (MS) tend to have their first symptoms between the ages of 20 and 40”.
  
  Due to constant warfare & poor nutrition few Maori made it past 30 in pre European settlement days. Thanks to the evil white man they now live long enough to succumb to diseases such as MS.
  
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  February 3, 2017 6:40pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There is a strong genetic component involved in some cases of MS. The incidence of MS in northern Scotland is very high … Orkney Is. especially.
  https://theconversation.com/mystery-in-northern-scotland-that-is-baffling-multiple-sclerosis-experts-59834
  
  The fact that Scottish Highlanders and Islanders settled in the foggy, bleak southern South Island is probably a factor in the relatively high incidence of MS amongst Otago and Southland folk.
  
  Many Maori have Scottish ancestry… and it is possibly from this route that some have acquired genetic factor(s) that predisposes them to MS.
  
  The incidence of MS in people who identify as Maori is low.
  Prevalence of MS in NZ
  http://www.msnz.org.nz/Document.Doc?id=6
  
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  February 3, 2017 7:27pm
- Southern Raider
  
  Not related to MS but in regards to marijuana I heard on the radio a company listed on the Canadian stock exchange today with a valuation of 1.5 billion
  
  What do they do? They make medical marijauna
  
  Why is National so bloody thick and not setting NZ up as the premier global manufacturer of medical marijuana and hemp. All the places with the highest unemployment are prime locations for large scale crop farms
  
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  February 3, 2017 8:53pm
Steve (North Shore)

Seems like the Govt has stopped subsidies for anti psychotic medication.
Spray and Walk Away has been on the warpath (electioneering and spraying bullshit)
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February 3, 2017 7:00pm
Jack5

Crooked British lawyer who hounded thousands of British soldiers on false allegations from Iraqis is struck off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4186554/Troops-demand-disgraced-tank-chaser-lawyer-faces-courts.html
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February 3, 2017 7:24pm
Southern Raider

Some google employee has written a piece about how Trump is preparing to do a coup on America as take supreme power

The Herald has this as one of their main stories as if it has substance
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February 3, 2017 8:47pm
Jack5

The Hooerald is going to make martyrs of the Indian students in NZ illegally and defying deportation.

This will be a re-run of the Leftist bullshit that got the former Algerian Islamicist politician and illegal gatecrasher Ahmed Zaoui established in NZ.

The journos won’t be looking at the case of the recently deceased secretary of the Refugee Council. Is it a coincidence he had the same name as a man deported from Canada for criminal gang activities?

The Hooerald is basically for open borders. It and State TV will be full of emotional pictures of heathen refugees crying and clinging to altars and crosses.

Amazing how our anti-Christian Left thinks our Christian churches should be safe houses as they were in the Middle Ages. But were they ever refuges for people breaking the law?

You can bet Dame Devoid will be there, playing politics.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11794333
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February 3, 2017 11:49pm
- Jack5
  
  A lawyer for the Indian students under deportation orders has explained why NZ is being inundated with so many Indian students.
  
  As reported in the Hooerald article:
  
  McClymont said the qualifications earned by most Indian students here were “worthless” back in India.
  
  “They would get much better qualifications than that in India,” he said.
  
  “They come here and do a Level 5 diploma. It’s not because it has any value, it’s a pathway to residency.
  
  So the whole foreign student business is a vast rort?
  
  Bill English needs to axe the Immigration Minister, Woodhouse, from Cabinet – pronto.
  
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  February 4, 2017 12:05am
cha

When you’ve lost turd blossom….

Amateur hour at the White House, writes @KarlRove: https://t.co/0BgPVVMk9D— WSJ Editorial Page (@WSJopinion) February 3, 2017
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February 4, 2017 12:08am
Manolo

Another lone wolf:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4187460/Lovre-evacuated-Paris.html

A terror probe has been launched in Paris after a machete-wielding man was shot while attacking four soldiers outside the Louvre. The suspect was shot five times in the stomach and is in a critical condition.

He was shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ – Arabic for ‘God is the greatest’ – according to the Paris chief of police, and reportedly had paint bombs in his backpack.
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February 4, 2017 6:41am
Manolo

A deep chasm:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/40_say_election_has_hurt_a_close_relationship
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