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thedavincimode

***gulp*** Stagefright
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November 5, 2016 8:05am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Well done for not mentioning climate change as that tends to screw the flavour of the board quite early on so you can have another go on another day
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:46am
Steve (North Shore)

Any connections of the Democrats suicide today? Or just gone missing? There must be a few in hiding.
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November 5, 2016 8:05am
DifferentPerspective

She’s not crooked, she’s a gangster

Who would ever trust the DNC after this?

Tricky Dicky was a nun compared to Hillary!

Someone who creates this kind of mayhem would be staggeringly dangerous to elect President. And if there is anything that Trump’s rousing “Drain the Swamp” call to arms is about – it is this!

There is good evidence floating around that a fix is in place and given the dodgy (oversampling DNC voters) ploy by the polling companies is well known – a sane person would have to say that Trump would be negligent to accept any result that puts Hillary in power.

No insane dictator in history has such an appalling record of corruption prior to gaining office – if she has any shred of integrity left, if she cares one jot about her country, if she has a single iota of understanding about what the DNC used to stand for – then she should step down.

But – she doesn’t. And she won’t.

The constitutional crisis she will create if she wins is going to make the French revolution look like a picnic!

Another nail in the coffin of the Left!
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November 5, 2016 8:05am
- mikenmild
  
  How, exactly, would Trump go about refusing to accept a result that is not in his favour?
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:09am
  - stephieboy
    
    “The constitutional crisis she will create if she wins is going to make the French revolution look like a picnic!”
    
    Will Trump help drive the Tumbrils ?
    
    http://www.d-barfield.co.uk/Assets/Girondists3.jpg
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:14am
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Trump, Trump. Trump !
  
  Make America Hate Again !
  
  http://rlv.zcache.com/anti_trump_election_bumper_sticker-r17e892c5e70f44a99ff6670250ab6979_v9wht_8byvr_324.jpg
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:11am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Oh, I see what you did there. Very, very clever.
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:07am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    “Liberals, you’re right. Trump support is largely motivated by hate. But it’s not hatred of minorities. It’s hatred of YOU.” – anonymous Trump supporter.
    
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    November 5, 2016 10:29am
  - cmm
    
    Stephie:
    
    Watch this and hang your head in shame:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dLuL8k_lyM
    
    I’m not seeing hate from Trump followers. All the hate I see is from lefties.
    
    Protecting your fellow citizens from an influx of illegal outsiders is not hate by any measure. If you believe that then you must call British WW2 haters for not rolling out the red carpet for the Germans.
    
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    November 5, 2016 10:52am
    - AgentBallSack
      
      FFS don’t get him started on the Germans.
      
      Whatever you do, don’t mention the war.
      
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      November 5, 2016 12:08pm
  - lilman
    
    Nope,just hate the middle east Muslim nut bars.
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:30pm
- fernglas
  
  Trump is anti-globalisation, pro-worker and wants to restrict immigration. Sounds a lot like NZ Labour policy to me, so who exactly is the Left in whose coffin this nail has been driven?
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:14am
  - stephieboy
    
    ferngalss, including 35% tariffs on all imports and at great cost to workers / consumers ,
    
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jun/21/donald-trump-has-floated-big-tariffs-what-could-im/
    
    Trump = a Polish shipyard economy !
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:18am
    - Ross12
      
      Whether 35% tariffs is the answer or not –it must be better to have USA people working instead of on food stamps when their jobs are “exported” to Mexico as is the case with auto workers which is where the 35% ( off the top of the head comment) from Trump came from.
      
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      November 5, 2016 11:36am
- DifferentPerspective
  
  This is easy Stephie and Mike.
  
  All you have do is explain (rationally) why you would prefer to have a corrupt criminal in the White House.
  
  And not the standard approach of the Left ie attacking the alternative. All it takes is for you to justify in reasonable terms why a major constitutional crisis triggered by a career criminal aided and abetted by a political party that is owned by foreign powers is the best choice!
  
  If you are in the right – that’ll be easy!
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:27am
  - mikenmild
    
    That’s not what I asked. You claimed Trump would not accept the election result. What alternative would he have when he is defeated?
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:33am
    - thedavincimode
      
      milky, you can’t be suggesting that any of these allegations are simply going to die a death (on either side for that matter). I’m thinking that this election is just the beginning. Keep your popcorn handy.
      
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      November 5, 2016 8:40am
      - stephieboy
        
        I maintain the claims of corruption and crookedness against her are at best high hyperbole and grossly exaggerated .
        
        “rump cult members should merely look the other way to their leader first .
        
        “Trump’s history of corruption is mind blowing ,”
        
        https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/05/trumps-history-of-corruption-is-mind-boggling-so-why-is-clinton-supposedly-the-corrupt-one/
        
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        November 5, 2016 8:44am
      - DifferentPerspective
        
        Lol – bearing in mind you responded to my original post, I think it’s a bit rich that you are suggesting I stick to the point.
        
        Again this is just the usual Leftist approach of diverting from the central point of a discussion and moving it to a more Alinsky-type attack direction.
        
        It’s old. It doesn’t work and it demonstrates the moral and intellectual vacuum that is driving the Left into insignificance.
        
        But thanks for proving my point (ie it’s not possible to defend the indefensible Hillary).
        
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        November 5, 2016 8:44am
  - thedavincimode
    
    stephie has already explained this. Trumpy grabs ’em by the pussy and Colin Powell wound up with two emails where they shouldn’t have been meaning that Hillary has done nothing wrong.
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:36am
    - stephieboy
      
      GW Bush lost 22 million emails ( many classified ) on a GOP private server ,
      
      http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html
      
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      November 5, 2016 8:50am
      - thedavincimode
        
        stephie, what the ferk has that got to do with Clinton?
        
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        November 5, 2016 8:56am
      - Zed
        
        Goes well with your pro-Islam argument. If Christians killed people 500 years ago it’s OK for Muslims to do this today
        
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        November 5, 2016 9:11am
      - cmm
        
        Yes, just like Bill Clinton, Bush was a corrupt moron too.
        
        So why does that mean USA should have another one?
        
        Surely it is time they break the cycle?
        
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        November 5, 2016 10:54am
      - GoVege
        
        Stephieboy….that was centuries ago!!
        Besides, he was a Republican. …it doesn’t count.
        
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        November 5, 2016 12:07pm
- EAD
  
  Indeed,
  
  Watching these revelations really underscores the level of brainwashing that takes place. How else could so called “Progressives” support Clinton? All those left-liberal, SJW, immigrant loving, capitalist hating, green supporting Milkmaid &Stephiegoy types, who work themselves up into such hysterical frenzy in order to promote the most corrupt, utterly cynical, criminally mendacious, lying, scheming woman, who would make war with Russia for the sole purpose of enriching herself and her family.
  
  You and I and everyone on the Alt-right know that these people – the Progtards – are fundamentally wrong and misinformed, but yet actually, for the most part, they are well meaning!
  
  They consider themselves to be nice people, and award themselves tenure of the moral high ground. Of course, there is an element of mental disorder present, but most of the cognitive dissonance on display here on Kiwiblog is a the result of the sheer refusal – nay, the inability – to connect with what is staring them in the face. And that shows the power of brainwashing.
  
  Its effect is to bring into being the Progtard army, who, after being subject almost from birth to a ‘Progressivised’ education, and immersed in the “on-message” media and entertainment industries, simply cannot compute when presented with the stark reality of left-wing politics and its evil machinations.
  
  Huge levels of criminality from poor down trodden Africans and Muslim refugees ? Nonsense! Marxism the tool of (((capitalist internationalist finance)))? Impossible! The Democratic presidential nominee an evil, dissembling, war-mongering crook? Get out of here!
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:49am
  - mikenmild
    
    Yes, it is all the Jews. What’s a good Nazi to do about them?
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:53am
  - Komata
    
    EAD
    
    Re: ‘They consider themselves to be nice people, and award themselves tenure of the moral high ground’.
    
    This is what I have found to be so odd about this election; the Hilary supporters are just as you describe, and many of them are uni graduates, entrepreneurs of considerable ability and supposedly very bright. Despite this, these self-same people are rabid supporters of murder, globalism and suppression of human rights by one of the most evil and corrupt individuals to ever walk the planet. They simply don’t seem to have given any real thought to what they are so-enthusiastically backing. To make it even more odd, Hilary is receiving the backing and support from actors and actresses; people who also seem to have not done any real analysis of the policies that their apparent ‘heroine’ is pedalling. Are such people willfully-blind, deluded or… ? I have no answers to this, but would be interested in your opinion as to why supposedly ‘sane’ turkeys seem so absolutely determined to vote for their own Christmas.
    
    Thank you.
    
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    November 5, 2016 1:32pm
- Lance
  
  Fucken hell!!!
  
  The anti Clinton ranting has reached the shrieking hysterically stage.
  Lets keep it based on reality huh?
  
  I dunno … maybe mention … God forbid….. some policies?
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:07am
  - Zed
    
    Policies, HA!! Why bother discussing border control or vetting refugees? We are all brothers and sisters.
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:18am
- jonar
  
  Speaking of insane dictators.
  
  http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/why-trump-is-different-and-must-be-repelled?intcid=mod-latest
  
  Trump is not normal. Nothing about him is. One need only look at his rallies, track the rhetoric they offer and the vengeful orgy of hatred and misogyny and racism they induce, to see just how different he is. His followers are not, shall we say, there to root on their favored libertarian in his pursuit of free-market solutions to vexing social problems; they are there to scream insults and cry havoc on their (mostly imaginary) enemies, to revel in the riot of misogyny and racism that Trump has finally given them license to retrieve from the darkest chapters of our past. (“Not politically correct” means openly brutal to minorities and women.) A ten-year-old screams, “Take that bitch down!” to laughter.
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:48am
  - Fletch
    
    A ten-year-old screams, “Take that bitch down!” to laughter.
    
    It may not be polite, but calling a bitch, a bitch is no indication of insanity.
    
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    November 5, 2016 11:09am
- Paulus
  
  Probably be the first President jailed, unless she pardon’s herself.
  Obama dare not because a) he and his wife cannot stand the sight of the Clintons, and it has been said that she has made her explicit views quite known in the White House about “ni..ers, and particularly in the Armed Forces.
  and b) he will find himself in very deep shit that he is already being implicated in many of the emails now available.
  
  The FBI will blow in a big way – they are being slandered by Clinton in a big way – her use of language is left to the most vile implications.
  
  But the criminally corrupt Clintons’ will get away with it.
  
  The US is a corrupt country where everybody is up for bribes as has been shown in this election over the last eight years.
  
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  November 5, 2016 12:29pm
- rightoverlabour
  
  I read that. The problem is, is it verified? If its true , its dynamite. If its crap, then who knows, as many will still believe it. But I can’t find corroborating evidence or other reliable websites running this. However, its not long till wednesday.
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:08pm
Captain Mainwaring

Bimbo reading the TV3 news last night about the fire on Brown’s Island tells us that Brown’s Island is off ‘Mussik’ Point.
Where do they get these people?
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November 5, 2016 8:10am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  The nepotism jobcentre
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:34am
- ross411
  
  The poor wannabe actress is just reading the script she was given.
  
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  November 5, 2016 10:15am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    To the best of her poor ability I believe, that’s what happens when kapa haka is on the syllabus instead of something useful like English and how it is spoke like
    
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    November 5, 2016 1:40pm
    - ross411
      
      Yes, the cost to our country because of the actions of a few virtue signallers..
      
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      November 5, 2016 4:02pm
Disaster Area

I don’t normally comment in here, nor do I post (or pay much attention to) stories like this, but Michael Buble seems to be a genuinely nice guy from what I have read and heard in interviews. Hope things work out for him and his family.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/86130290/singer-michael-buble-devastated-over-news-of-toddler-sons-cancer

Edited to add: please do not take this as an endorsement of his music!
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November 5, 2016 8:11am
Tauhei Notts

I had a glance through this morning’s NZ Herald and thought of a journalists’ function I went to years ago.
One wine addled reporter said then, that the worst part about democracy is that people who do not have the intelligence of journalists are allowed to vote.
There is a degree of arrogance amongst our reporters that I find reprehensible.
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November 5, 2016 8:13am
- gander
  
  Indeed, Tauhei Notts. The worst part about democracy is that people who do have the intelligence of (NZ) journalists are allowed to vote.
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:28am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Those who have the intelligence of a journalist do not tend to vote especially if polling day could be spent on the beach, it is raining, or the taxi didn’t turn up to take them to the polling station
    
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    November 5, 2016 8:38am
  - RalphT
    
    …the worst thing about democracy is that journalists who do not have the intelligence of ordinary people are allowed to vote…
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:22am
- Disaster Area
  
  “Think how stupid the average person is, and then realise that 50% are more stupid than that”
  George Carlin.
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:19am
  - holysheet
    
    Intelligence is like an underwear. It is important that you have it, but not necessary that you show it off.
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:45am
  - GoVege
    
    It doesn’t matter if you’re “stupid”.
    What matters is if you’re a nice person.
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:28pm
    - Left Right and Centre
      
      90%+ of them ain’t – not a problem.
      
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      November 6, 2016 4:13am
- Biscuit
  
  A superbly-expressed 2500th comment, TH!
  
  I’d offer you one of these here chocolates as a present for your milestone if I wasn’t so scared you might actually take it!
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:45am
Viking2

Souvlaki

Goff is no sooner in the saddle and already apparently backing ATEED spending a fortune of ratepayers money on supporting Parkers boxing match ! The rate payers are sick of being raped by these pricks squandering their hard earned money . ENOUGH !

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cmm

leopards spots change can’t

Make a sentence from those words…
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Apparently not as the funding is no longer available. Just will be spent somewhere else. Funding that was exactly for the purpose.
Oh Well.
The grinches win again for the moment. No wonder they are poverty stricken.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/86106097/auckland-funding-uturn-leaves-joseph-parkers-world-title-fight-on-the-ropes
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November 5, 2016 8:31am
BarryB

Ive been sent a silly little message from Airbnb – their new policy on discrimination and ‘Belonging’.

Ive told them to drop dead. I am not going to sign onto a corporate set of regulations – I see this as a typical example of what will come out of the famous TPPA.

Further there are people who should be discriminated against:
1. Indians – they treat their environment as a rubbish dump. (well most of S.E.Asia actually)
2. Wealthy Africans – they got their wealth by stealing as a government servant
3. Muslims.

and Im sure I could find others.
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November 5, 2016 8:33am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  For sure, continue on a separate sheet as required
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:41am
- mikenmild
  
  You’d better hope that no one starts discriminating against arseholes.
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:55am
  - Happychappy
    
    You would have to leave town in a hurry then
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:47am
    - Gabby
      
      What sort of chappy would make a remark like that? A crappy one. A chappy who is crappy.
      
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      November 5, 2016 6:20pm
  - Viking2
    
    Probably want you to identify them MM. What do they look like eh?
    
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    November 5, 2016 5:42pm
    - mikenmild
      
      A mirror can be useful for that.
      
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      November 5, 2016 6:54pm
- kowtow
  
  Connorposts take on it.
  
  https://medium.com/@TheConnorPost/airbnbs-new-official-cultural-marxism-db457431b36b#.tpru1ursp
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:31am
Manolo

A former ally of the crook Clinton speaks:
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/304218-susan-sarandon-the-dnc-is-completely-corrupt

Actress Susan Sarandon on Thursday tore into the Democratic National Committee (DNC), calling it “completely corrupt.”
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November 5, 2016 8:37am
- wiseowl
  
  Sky News Australia reported last night that when Gillard was in power they gave the Clinton Foundation $88 million.
  Further to that over a few years they gave the Clinton Global Partnership for Education $300 million.!
  Gillard now works for this organisation.
  The leftys take what they can and line their own pockets through deception.
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:54am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    In the same way, Helen Klark bought her job at the UN with our money.
    Crooks, the lot of them.
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:15am
- Komata
  
  How the might doth fall, and the worm turns. It wasn’t so long ago that Ms Sarandon was an enthusiastic supporter of the DNC. One wonders what went wrong – perhaps they didn’t give her as many accolades as a ‘star of her status’ thought she should have?
  
  Hell hath no fury etc. etc.
  
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  November 5, 2016 1:50pm
Manolo

The sexually-repressed are chasing German women:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3904490/Victims-Cologne-New-Year-s-Eve-sex-attack-mob-saved-raped-wearing-TIGHTS-cold.html

Women were only saved from being raped by migrants in the Cologne New Year’s Eve celebrations because they were wearing tights, according to a policewoman.

Police Commissioner Sonja E, 26, was giving evidence before a fact-finding investigative committee of the state parliament in Dusseldorf when she made the statement about the everyday garment sparing women from even worse ordeals.

The officer, whose surname was withheld in the public hearing, told how marauding gangs of up to 50 mainly migrant men surrounded victims as some had their skirts lifted as the attackers attempted to penetrate them.
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November 5, 2016 8:39am
- kowtow
  
  Extraordinary. The European elites are directly responsible for these crimes against their own citizens and for the continuing slaughter of the illegals on the high seas. If they did what Australia does the migration would stop.
  
  “As many as 239 people are feared dead in two shipwrecks off the coast of Libya, according to the United Nations refugee agency.”
  
  http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/hundreds-feared-dead-refugee-shipwrecks-libya-161103130925708.html
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:14am
- Zed
  
  You’ll need a thicker stick to get that through the liberal heads
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:24am
Manolo

Odds on, says our nervous Clinton supporter stephieboy:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6022.html
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November 5, 2016 8:55am
jcuk

What amazes/amuses me is the way those of the left blindly support Clinton and DNC because they are the left in American politics.
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November 5, 2016 9:20am
- jonar
  
  Um, which is different from the right blindly supporting Trump and the GOP?
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:42am
  - All_on_Red
    
    I think for many it’s simply Clinton is reprehensible and whilst they would prefer someone other than Trump, the simple fact is there has to be a choice made and to keep Clinton out the only choice there is, is Trump.
    
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    November 5, 2016 10:05am
    - mikenmild
      
      And for many others: they would prefer someone other than Clinton, the simple fact is there has to be a choice made and to keep Trump out the only choice there is, is Clinton.
      
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      November 5, 2016 10:09am
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Except that Trump isn’t a criminal – Clinton is.
        
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        November 5, 2016 10:50am
      - mikenmild
        
        Neither is a criminal, as they have yet to be charged and convicted.
        Anyone’s opinion that either is a criminal is, of course, rather subjective.
        
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        November 5, 2016 10:57am
      - Morrissey
        
        A Rumpista writes: “Except that Trump isn’t a criminal…”
        
        The revelations by scores of women he has assaulted show that faith-based statement to be untrue.
        
        After his humiliation on Tuesday, he may well be busy trying to explain himself in court….
        
        http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
        
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        November 5, 2016 11:24am
      - kowtow
        
        Morrisey
        
        If a Trump supporter is a “Rumpista” , does that make Hillary supporters , “Clitistas” ?
        
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        November 5, 2016 12:34pm
      - Morrissey
        
        kowtow ripostes:
        If a Trump supporter is a “Rumpista” , does that make Hillary supporters , “Clitistas” ?
        
        I have only one thumbs up to give you, my friend, but rest assured, that was a good one!
        
        http://www.jhocy.com/images/uploads/d3501b3a76babb6507b8390ef2031f4a.jpg
        
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        November 5, 2016 1:46pm
      - kowtow
        
        Morrissey@146
        
        Too kind , old bean.
        
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        November 5, 2016 4:49pm
- Paulus
  
  It is the women who fall over themselves with Clinton.
  First it was a Black President (and what a disaster) , now it is a woman (criminally corrupt that she is and should be jailed within 12 months – unless she can buy more people off – but not the FBI).
  
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  November 5, 2016 12:34pm
  - Manolo
    
    Obama has been the seven plagues of Egypt rolled into one unleashed on the United States.
    
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    November 5, 2016 12:36pm
    - Kimbo
      
      …um, pedant alert – there were ten plagues on Egypt
      
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      November 5, 2016 1:11pm
      - Manolo
        
        I stand corrected. Actually, I was counting in base 7. 🙂
        
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        November 5, 2016 4:28pm
  - waikatogirl
    
    Paulus, Not all women are sucked into the call for the sisterhood to support each other or else. Some of us vote for the best person for the job.
    
    Many of those A.type personality females are too scary for words.
    
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    November 5, 2016 12:41pm
kowtow

The diversity “dividend” will pay off big time in Germany.

Germany has had the equivalent of a full battalion operating with ISIS in the Middle east. Sadly only 140 have been killed but the returnees will be trouble.

“Almost a third of those who have travelled abroad have returned and 140 were killed while abroad, while around 420 are still in Syria or Iraq.”

http://www.thelocal.de/20161104/three-germans-jailed-for-joining-jihadists-in-syria
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November 5, 2016 9:28am
- kowtow
  
  Summary of recent dividends
  
  http://www.dw.com/en/terror-plots-in-germany-that-failed/g-36268475
  
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  November 5, 2016 10:06am
Salacious Crumb

An interesting analysis on the state of US politics;

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/forget-clinton-and-trump–americas-democracy-is-broken-and-they-cant-fix-it-20161103-gshl3c.html

The resonating line that should have all Americans taking notice “The US has dropped to 20th on the Economist Intelligence Unit’s ranking of democracies – down three places since 2007, it’s now tucked in below Uruguay.”
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November 5, 2016 9:58am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Import a large 3rd population into your country to replace a shrinking white population, then don’t be surprised when you get 3rd World politics.
  
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  November 5, 2016 10:44am
  - GoVege
    
    You’re probably right there, Jazz.
    The worst thing about these 3rd world populations is they’re virtually all sexists, and the many of them use our generous social services to fund their chauvinist impulses.
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:33pm
Captain Mainwaring

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/85996076/police-expect-influx-of-slow-driver-complaints-as-nelson-heads-into-summer-holiday-period

And about bloody time. But why only in Tasman?
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November 5, 2016 10:07am
dime

Does one serve up a spit roast when spirit cooking?
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November 5, 2016 10:26am
Southern Raider

20,000 protesters in Indonesia from the religion of peace are threatening mass and violent riots if the Christian state governor isn’t arrested for a apparent comment he made about the Koran. But the real reason seems to some Iman has told followers that according to the Koran Muslims should not be governed by non Muslims

What a tolerant religion
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November 5, 2016 10:39am
- Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
  
  Eventually this will be the story in NZ too, once the mohammedan population reaches critical mass.
  
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  November 5, 2016 10:42am
- Manolo
  
  That explains the cesspool Indonesia is.
  
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  November 5, 2016 12:38pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Killary’s propaganda machine is doing a smear job on the FBI now, its percolating all the way down to the NZ Herald:

“FBI described as ‘Trumpland’ as fallout over review of Hillary Clinton aide emails continues”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11742743

As usual the Herald’s “coverage” of the US election is all EVIL EVIL TRUMP!, the usual talking heads this side wailing about how, OMG! , could Trump have even made it this far.
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November 5, 2016 10:41am
- Inandout
  
  And so their readership drops..drops..drops.
  
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  November 5, 2016 10:53am
- Morrissey
  
  But… Trump is evil. So is Hillary, of course, but that doesn’t change the fact that Trump is an evil white supremacist (he’s endorsed by the KKK), a repulsive and slobbering groper—at the very least– of women, and mocker of the disabled….
  http://media.townhall.com/_townhall/uploads/2015/11/27/2.jpg
  
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  November 5, 2016 11:19am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Stop regurgitating hysterical (((Huff Po))) propaganda.
    
    So what if the KKK endorses Trump?
    
    Does that mean anyone who opposes (((globalism))) is a closet KKK member or sympathiser?
    
    Of course it doesn’t not by a long way.
    
    Funny how all those females suddenly come out of the woodwork 2-3 weeks out before the election.
    
    Killary’s hubby is a BIG TIME molester, women are accusing him of rape.
    
    Killary protected him, fought for Bill.
    
    Killary laughed and joked about the child rape victim of her client who she got off on a technicality.
    
    White people are allowed to be proud of their identity, culture and history too.
    
    White people are allowed to fight for their interests.
    
    Every other race is encouraged to by Leftist “Identity Politics”. How come whites are not allowed to?
    
    It is the Left who are the true RACISTS.
    
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    November 5, 2016 11:56am
    - Morrissey
      
      “So what if the KKK endorses Trump?”
      
      I nominate that as the funniest single sentence on Kiwiblog this year.
      
      (It’s even funnier when you consider it was written so earnestly, without even a hint of irony.)
      
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      November 5, 2016 11:57am
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        KKK opposes globalism.
        
        Does that mean anyone who opposes globalism is a KKK sympathiser?
        
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        November 5, 2016 12:08pm
      - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
        
        Saudis endorse Killary, not only that, they pay millions to her campaign, while they kill homosexuals etc.
        
        Two faced Morrissey has got nothing to work with.
        
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        November 5, 2016 12:10pm
      - Garbageman
        
        damn lad you really are as thick as your posts make you seem i thought u were merely a troll but i was so wrong
        
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        November 5, 2016 2:53pm
      - Don the Kiwi
        
        Rubbish.
        the KKK was started by the Democrats – the extremely Racist Democrats – like Margaret Sanger and all the other Dem annointed ones.
        
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        November 5, 2016 4:12pm
    - Fletch
      
      The KKK came about as the militant arm of the Democrat party. They killed blacks and republicans. They had no connection with the Republicans, so it is totally ironic that people are trying to connect them with the GOP now. Democrat President Woodrow Wilson even screened the racist film featuring the KKK, Birth of a Nation at the White House (it was the very first film to be shown there).
      
      Founded in 1866, the Klan was initially led by a former Confederate army officer, Nathan Bedford Forrest, who served two years later as a Democratic delegate to the party’s 1868 national convention.
      
      In the fifty-year period starting from the Klan’s founding through the late 1920s and early 1930s, every prominent Klan leader was a Democrat. In fact, Democrats were so prominent in the Klan that the group sometimes held its own primaries to decide which Klansman should receive the Klan endorsement in the upcoming election, and the Klan role was so central to the 1924 Democratic National Convention in New York that historians sometimes call it the Klanbake.
      
      Released in 1915, The Birth of a Nation caused a sensation with its dramatic scenes of ruthless northerner carpetbaggers looting the poor, honest families of the South as well as lusty black men preying with impunity on southern maidens. The night-riding Klansmen were the film’s heroes, finally taking on the northern malefactors and protecting the honor of the South.
      
      The Birth of a Nation was strongly protested by northern Republicans such as Harvard president Charles Eliot and the feminist reformer Jane Addams, but also by Republicans in the South, such as the black educator Booker T. Washington. By contrast, the film was vigorously defended by Democrats across the country, including the former chief justice of the Supreme Court, Edward White, who was a member of the original Ku Klux Klan.
      
      In the year of the film’s release, the Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson, arranged a private screening in the Oval Office for his cabinet and other invited guests. After the screening Wilson declared that everything in The Birth of a Nation was accurate. In Wilson’s words, “It’s like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true.” The film inspired a Klan revival, spawning Klan chapters not only in the South but also in the Midwest.
      
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      November 5, 2016 12:23pm
      - AgentBallSack
        
        Standard defence when people point out that it was the Democrats who started the KKK is :
        “But it’s the Republicans who are racist now”.
        
        Straight out of stephies playbook for the retarded and mentally infirm.
        
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        November 5, 2016 1:30pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Um, but who does the KKK support now?
        
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        November 5, 2016 1:41pm
    - DifferentPerspective
      
      Exactly Jazz
      
      And what a surprise, with the fascists Democrats fuelling civil unrest with their gangland BLM protesters accusing every cop of murdering poor blacks, it turns out that it is the NYPD who:
      – arrested Wiener
      – got his devices
      – cloned them when they turned them over to the FBI, and
      – when the infinitely corruptible Loretta Lynch started suppressing the FBI’s investigation,
      – pressed their own prosecutions along
      
      Reap the whirlwind Hillary! You throw cops to the dogs – it’s going to come back at you (especially if you are dishonest in everything you do).
      
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      November 5, 2016 1:04pm
- jcuk
  
  I have given up bothering about what the media says, mainly National Radio. What will happen will and we in NZ have no say in the result.
  
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  November 5, 2016 12:08pm
  - Komata
    
    jcuk
    
    Re: ‘…We in NZ have no say in the result’.
    
    Oh but we will, we will. New Zealand is such an absolutely incredibly important nation that EVERYONE on the planet simply has no choice but to listen to us. (At least, that is what Red Radio would have us believe; especially those erudite members of Morning Report who know absolutely everything about anything – and don’t mind telling us that they do – repeatedly).
    
    Big fish (at least in their own minds); small pond.
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:03pm
- Paulus
  
  Clinton should be very careful about he slanging of the FBI – even they have long tentacles when they want – silly move – should have shut up.
  
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  November 5, 2016 12:36pm
Morrissey

If, unlike the Key regime, you care about the credibility of our public institutions, you might like to sign this petition….
https://www.change.org/p/environmental-protection-authority-nz-remove-jacqueline-rowarth-from-her-position-with-the-epa
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November 5, 2016 11:01am
- wiseowl
  
  Rowarth is the only sane voice in the ag sector.
  She will also be the best person on the EPA.
  Disgusting move to try and get rid of her and shows how the left here want to shutdown anyone that has a logical science based view.
  She should replace Gluckman as the PM’s science advisor as well.
  
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  November 5, 2016 1:35pm
  - Morrissey
    
    “Rowarth is the only sane voice in the ag sector.”
    
    Congratulations, wiseowl! Earlier today I nominated a post by the inimitable “Jazz-Hands Mc Feels” as the funniest of the year…..
    
    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/11/general_debate_5_november_2016.html/comment-page-1#comment-1811762
    
    But your endorsement of Jacqueline Rowarth is even better!
    http://www.primaryteaching.co.uk/prodimg/B31_1_Zoom.jpg
    
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    November 5, 2016 1:52pm
Inandout

The Hooerald are now employing self admitted thieving journalists. Now I bet that journalist lives in Gwey Lynn.

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2016/11/nz-herald-columnist-megan-nicol-reed-admits-stealing/
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November 5, 2016 11:02am
- Morrissey
  
  Megan Nicol Reed is foolish and, undoubtedly, dishonest. But just look at who wrote that attack piece!
  
  When it comes to brass-plated hypocrisy and lack of even the slightest sense of irony, Cameron “Blubberguts” Slater is in a class by himself.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdYgBhF9-w
  
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  November 5, 2016 11:13am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    So you agree with Whale Oils article then.
    
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    November 5, 2016 12:19pm
    - Morrissey
      
      Whale Oil is a habitual liar, and if there was any justice in this country, he’d be in prison now. You should read Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, which shows how Slater and his cronies, including his hapless stooge/slave Jordan Williams, ran a character assassination operation out of the Prime Minister’s office.
      
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      November 5, 2016 1:42pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Fuck off Noddy
        
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        November 5, 2016 1:48pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Fuck off Noddy
        
        Is that YOU, Jordan Williams? Shouldn’t you be running an errand for Cam?
        
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        November 5, 2016 1:55pm
      - Garbageman
        
        waa waa he doesn’t agree with my thoughts therefore must be in prison, you need a rest from trying to figure life out lad your comments are becoming more and more deranged, but good of weasel boy to let off all those journos he thought could and should redeem themselves noticeably no one from the right of politics, dirty politics has nothing on these liars and cowards, hypocrisy thy name is Labour & half sucked throaties
        
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        November 5, 2016 2:27pm
      - Steve (North Shore)
        
        I don’t often throw insults here, but you are an A-grade wanker mate
        
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        November 5, 2016 5:45pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Dear old “Garbageman”: you certainly DO roll up your sleeves and do the dirty tasks no one else would be stupid enough to do—in this case gallantly, quixotically springing to the defence of one of this country’s most indefensible and reprehensible scoundrels.
        
        I admire your spunk, Garbageman, I really do, in the same way I admire this silly fellow….
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYlgrL7dPng
        
        So let’s have a look at what you’ve written in defence of Whale Oil’s saddest henchman, shall we?
        
        1.) waa waa he doesn’t agree with my thoughts therefore must be in prison,
        
        No, Garbageman, I don’t think he should be put in prison simply because he is a simple-minded Ayn Rand-worshipping numbskull. He should be jailed because he was involved in the illegal campaign of character assassination that was run out of the Prime Minister’s office.
        
        2.) you need a rest from trying to figure life out lad your comments are becoming more and more deranged,
        
        It’s “deranged” to point out that Cameron Slater is a despicable hypocrite, lacking a shred of credibility? Do expand on this intriguing thesis, please. PLEASE.
        
        3.) …. but good of weasel boy to let off all those journos he thought could and should redeem themselves noticeably no one from the right of politics, dirty politics has nothing on these liars and cowards, hypocrisy thy name is Labour & half sucked throaties
        
        ???? Could someone familiar with decoding the rantings of the insane please decipher this one for the rest of us?
        
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        November 5, 2016 6:01pm
      - Kimbo
        
        …you certainly DO roll up your sleeves and do the dirty tasks no one else would be stupid enough to do—in this case gallantly, quixotically springing to the defence of one of this country’s most indefensible and reprehensible scoundrels.
        
        I admire your spunk, Garbageman, I really do,..
        
        Adverb alert! x4!! Kimbo’s law: in blogworld the validity of an argument is in direct inverse proportion to the excessive and unnecessary use of adverbs.
        
        Plus, you win the award for the worst impression of a languid yet long-winded James Bond villain. “Just shoot him in the head!”, i.e., get to the fucking point without all the “Dear old “Garbageman”: you certainly DO roll up your sleeves…I admire your spunk, Garbageman,…Do expand on this intriguing thesis, please. PLEASE….???? Could someone familiar with decoding the rantings of the insane please decipher this one for the rest of us?”…~~shit~~ rhetorical tinsel.
        
        And on that last point, what do you mean by “us”, Paleface? On this blog you speak for no one but yourself…and in your case…more so
        
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        November 5, 2016 6:40pm
      - Sideoiler
        
        Whale Oil is a habitual liar,
        
        You should be careful, you could end up getting your ass sued.
        
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        November 5, 2016 9:37pm
      - Morrissey
        
        After overhearing me call Ol’ Blubberguts “a habitual liar” one “Sideoiler” warns darkly:
        
        You should be careful, you could end up getting your ass sued.
        
        There’s only one fit response to that….
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBQvt-t6NcA
        
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        November 6, 2016 1:58pm
EAD

Further to my post yesterday on GD – More on the Brexit legal pursuit and who is responsible:

https://twitter.com/Ironwand/status/794523395450867713/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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November 5, 2016 11:24am
- mikenmild
  
  It wuz dem, Joooz!
  
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  November 5, 2016 11:40am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Well if it talks like a joo and is named like a joo…
    
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    November 5, 2016 11:58am
  - Jazz-Hands Mc Feels
    
    Men are over represented in Computer Science – sexism!
    
    Whites are over represented in TV shows – racism!
    
    Joos are over represented in Finance – that’s because they are just super intelligent, you NAZI!!!
    
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    November 5, 2016 12:01pm
- EAD
  
  https://redice.tv/news/top-city-of-london-law-firm-mishcon-de-reya-working-on-stopping-brexit
  
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  November 5, 2016 11:57am
- Reid
  
  People who are programmed by the Holohoax meme halllucinate the instant one mentions the sinister connection between the evil few who control the worlds of media, finance, banking, defence, foreign policy, politics and entertainment with the remarkable tie-in to most of them being Jewish, thereby means one is most definitely claiming all Jewish people are like that.
  
  People who aren’t programmed by the Holohoax meme don’t see it like that at all, they simply see that most of the those evil people happen to be Jewish, and isn’t that interesting. But people who are programmed by the Holohoax meme can’t calmly and rationally think about that coincidence because they are so busy dealing with the emotional fallout invoked via Pavlovian reaction by their programming, of the accusation they’ve hallucinated in their own minds in conflating people who were merely pointing out an interesting fact with people who were making a vicious accusation.
  
  I’ll give you an example of your programming. Most of you think the term “Holohoax meme” means I’m another artifcact of your programming, a dreaded “denier.” Now there’s a meme, isn’t it. But most of you have already concluded that’s what I just did, didn’t you. Denied the Holocaust existed as a historical fact. Didn’t you. But no, I’m not. Not at all. But you can’t see that even when you re-read what I said, can you. This is your progamming, that’s an example of it.
  
  What I mean by “Holohoax meme” is the propaganda surrounding it, which is propaganda, just like AGW is propaganda. It is a meme, and like all good memes, it’s taken kernels of truth and twisted them, and it’s those twists which change fact into meme, and to which they anchor, using pavlovian techniques, emotional vignettes over decades of the inculcation, so your mind has this concept of it with pictures, sounds, colours and most importantly, emotions. And it’s those emotions that prevent one from seeing the rational statement and looking at it same way you look, completely rationally, at AGW. Which is why you can easily see the propaganda in AGW, but you can’t see it at all in the Holocaust. Ergo you can’t see what I’m saying rationally you are programed to view it only through the emotional lens and you then invoke your pavlovian programmed anchor your mind retrieves in such situations: he’s a denier.
  
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  November 5, 2016 1:00pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Reid usual bullshit of denying the Holocaust while denying that he’s denying the Holocaust.
    But more to the point, what would you and EAD do to rid nthe world of this pernicious Jewish influence?
    
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    November 5, 2016 1:45pm
Keeping Stock

What a week to be in Chicago. A crowd of several million packed the city today for the Victory Parade and rally. Wow!

https://youtu.be/q2MzyNIDuvs

Presently, we are en route to ToyotaPark for the Maori v USA match in Auckland-like traffic. And theIrish are pouring into Chicago for tomorrow’s match. Should be a fantastic atmosphere and it is officially a 61,500 sellout.
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November 5, 2016 12:14pm
- Kimbo
  
  Great postcard, KS. Once in a lifetime opportunity to be in a great spot at the right time. Let’s just hope the Ngati Irish don’t take a leaf out of the Cubs history-reversing story book and overturn 100+ years of tradition. And the Paddies are a funny team – install them as favourites or expect them to do well like at last year’s World Cup and they disappear without trace. Write them off and they will rise to the occasion.
  
  And I’d imagine as Chicago is an Irish settlement, they will have plenty of support.
  
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  November 5, 2016 12:59pm
- Kimbo
  
  …and by my reckoning the usually prolific tom hunter hasn’t posted since late Thursday night our time, so I’m guessing the celebrations – or post-party recovery – are still continuing in in his household! But then there was 108 years of delayed victory to make good on! 🙂
  
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  November 5, 2016 1:27pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Will be found in a ditch covered in green slime with Bill Murray . .
    
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    November 5, 2016 1:55pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Tempting thought – but sadly, no!
      
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      November 5, 2016 2:17pm
  - tom hunter
    
    When you’re gently floating through warm, gentle breezes, shielded in the golden armour of joy, why would you descend back to Kiwiblog any earlier than needed?
    
    But yeah! Won’t be drinking any beer during the AB’s game, even if it is from Soldier Field!!
    
    May not be drinking any more beer this month!!!
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:20pm
- tom hunter
  
  Fantastic stuff, KB. I’m am certainly green – WITH ENVY.
  
  Nah. I would probably have gone insane had I been in the city with old friends over the last week. Better to have kept my distance and some semblence of calm.
  
  Assuming the AB’s do the job tommorrow I’m tempted to assume that this may just all add up to the best AB trip you’ve ever had? Well – assuming you’ve not been on an AB World Cup winning tour.
  
  But what you’ve just gone through was truly a once-in-a-lifetime experience. It’ll never feel the same again.
  
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  November 5, 2016 2:22pm
  - Kimbo
    
    …and for Cubs supporters that means…they are now nothing special as they follow just another team.
    
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    November 5, 2016 3:09pm
    - tom hunter
      
      Yep.
      
      And for some people that can’t come soon enough!
      
      I speak of course of Cardinals and – especially – Chicago White Sox fans!!
      
      I found this yesterday and knew you would appreciate it more than most. The writer is Chicago Tribune journalist, John Kass. I’ve followed him for more than two decades as he shredded the never-ending corruption and bullshit of Chicago’s government. But he also went national on many occasions, regularly ripping into the Bush 43 administration. Naturally this endeared him to Democrats – until he did the same thing to Obama, who I think he considers as little more than another flack who rose out of the local cesspit, albeit higher than others. He recently called on the Democrats to remove Hillary. The guy has zero time for bullshit, but until today I never knew the following about him, and so…
      
      Sox fan asks: When is all this going to end?:
      
      Maybe a day or so longer, but no more.
      
      The big Cubs parade is Friday and editors have been forewarned not to expect me there. One said I would be assigned to the Tribune Happy Cubs float, so now I won’t even come downtown to see if this is true.
      
      Later, there will be the post-parade parade afterglow where everyone talks about how it felt to be there.
      
      Ahh. Ahhh. Hear the echoes of wistful Sox fans as we sigh.
      
      I figure that this must be how Cubs fans felt in 2005, when the White Sox won the World Series, dominating the postseason and sweeping the Houston Astros.
      
      There was a parade, wasn’t there? And Sox fans thought it would go on that way, another postseason, another World Series, for a few years at least. But it didn’t.
      
      And besides, does anyone remember the Sox won the World Series?
      
      Not ESPN, the sports network that forgot the Sox won the World Series. Also forgetful was a great metropolitan newspaper that has employed me for several years now.
      
      Bitter, darling. So bitter. I think it provides a great taste of exactly why White Sox fans hate the Cubs and their fans. The Sox have been in the city for over one hundred years also – so why are they not as beloved? Why?
      
      I ran into another Sox fan. I could tell he was a Sox fan because his eyes weren’t sparkly like those of Cubs fans who have turned Chicago into a cuddly paradise of smiles.
      
      Sox Fan Jim wasn’t smiling. His eyes were dull, and listless, like the beloved White Sox, the team that time and the media forgot.
      
      “This will never end,” sighed Sox Fan Jim. “It’s never going to end. Never. Cubs, Cubs, Cubs, Cubs. Cubs. It will be like this forever.”
      
      We stood there silently, mourning our fate, and I realized he was right:
      
      This Cubs thing will never end, and neither will the happiness and joy and proud spirit of the noble Cubs fans, who, like superhuman creatures, shoot out beams of joyfulness and delight that warm everyone near them and wraps the city in their good feelings.
      …
      “It’s never going to end because they are the Cubs and the White Sox are not the Cubs, and the Cubs are great and the White Sox are not,” said Sox Fan Jim.
      
      We stood there, saying nothing, silently contemplating the cruelty of life and the bleak future ahead.
      
      “And just when you think it’s died down, the baseball winter meetings start, and then spring training, and Cubs, Cubs, Cubs,” said Sox Fan Jim.
      
      Yes, the Cubs are great. And the Sox are not.
      
      Oh, the pain.
      
      🙂
      
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      November 5, 2016 3:20pm
      - Kimbo
        
        Thought I’d better post something from a long-time Cubs-supporter in the press corp:
        
        George F. Will: Gushing over the Chicago Cubs
        Wednesday
        Posted Oct 5, 2016 at 6:33 PM Updated Oct 5, 2016 at 6:33 PM
        
        By George F. Will
        
        The good news, a commodity in short supply, is that Americans are about to get a respite from the candidates’ blather. The bad news is that the respite will be a Cubs Gush, which will slosh from sea to shining sea. There is something about baseball, and especially about the Chicago National League Ball Club, that triggers incontinent rhapsodizing and nonsensical theorizing by otherwise sensible citizens.
        
        The mesmerizing arithmetic is that the Cubs last won the World Series in 1908, when Teddy Roosevelt was president. Today the nation that is selecting its 45th president is as distant from 1908 as that year was from the second presidency, that of John Adams.
        
        In the sport of the long season, after playing 162 games in 183 days, a team is what its record says it is, and the Cubs have baseball’s best record. This year’s team is vastly more talented than the Cubs were in their last appearance in the World Series, in 1945, when many of the major league’s best players were still wearing military uniforms. (The Tigers had enough of them to defeat the Cubs in seven games.)
        
        Ethicists say losing builds character. Cub fans, who are mostly scar tissue, say they already have quite enough character, thank you.
        
        Some Cub fans have taken a perverse pride in their team’s colorful failures, such as third baseman Don Hoak striking out six times in a 17-inning game. Or second baseman Glenn Beckert stranding 12 runners in a nine-inning game. Or Lou “The Mad Russian” Novikoff trying to steal third base — with the bases loaded. (He explained that he got “a good jump on the pitcher.”) Or shortstop Lennie Merullo making four errors in one inning. Or pitcher Dickie Noles being traded for himself. (Sent to the Tigers for a player to be named later, he promptly surrendered a bases-loaded triple, so the Tigers designated him the player named later and shipped him back to Chicago.)
        
        Some Cub fans seem to relish theories about how curses or karma have destined the Cubs for failure. Actually, for many years the team’s management, having inherited a dandy ballpark but having no clue how to build a good team, decided to market Wrigley Field’s charms: The grass would be so green, the ivy so lush, the beer so cold and the sunshine (there were no night games until 1988) so warm that no one would care what the scoreboard said.
        
        Then, in 2009, the Ricketts family, which did not make enough money to buy the Cubs by being indifferent to excellence, turned the team over to son Tom, who met his wife in Wrigley’s bleachers but who is agreeably unsentimental about the cult of futility.
        
        So, all you purveyors of Cubs Gush, listen up. Referring to Wrigley Field as a “baseball cathedral” should be a flogging offense. It is just a nice little place on the North Side where men (calling major leaguers “boys of summer” should be punishable by keelhauling) work hard at a demanding and dangerous craft. And Cub fans, loyal through thin and thin, you must remember this: Your team at least won the Cold War. For years, it held spring training on Catalina Island near Los Angeles. So, when a Des Moines radio sportscaster named “Dutch” Reagan went to report on them he stopped in Hollywood for a screen test, and the Soviet Union was doomed. So there.
        
        http://www.providencejournal.com/opinion/20161005/george-f-will-gushing-over-chicago-cubs
        
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        November 5, 2016 3:53pm
      - tom hunter
        
        I’d never heard the Dickie Noles story before: being traded for himself. Brilliant!
        
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        November 5, 2016 4:08pm
      - Kimbo
        
        But not the first! That honour belongs to Harry Chiti of (who else?!) the 1962 New York Mets!
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Chiti
        
        Same team made famous by ‘Choo Choo’ Coleman.
        
        “Casey Stengel once complimented Coleman’s speed, saying that he’d never seen a catcher so fast at retrieving passed balls”.
        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choo-Choo_Coleman
        
        While Coleman never had success as a player, he became somewhat famous for his malapropisms. Perhaps most famous was an interview on Kiner’s Korner, the Mets post-game show. Host Ralph Kiner liked to tell the story, during game broadcasts, about how Choo-Choo didn’t say much and was very hard to interview. Coleman also had a bad memory for names, and called everybody “Bub”. Ralph explained that he had run out of questions for Coleman, so he asked Choo-Choo, “What’s your wife’s name and what’s she like?” Choo-Choo replied “My wife’s name is Mrs. Coleman and she likes me, Bub.” Another time, Kiner asked Clarence how he had gotten the name Choo-Choo. “I don’t know, Ralph,” was the answer.
        
        Casey Stengel once referred to him as “the best low-ball catcher in baseball”, a commodity the early Mets staff probably needed.
        
        In 1963, during Duke Snider’s only year with the Mets, he told a reporter how Choo-Choo did not know his name, despite the fact that he and Snider had spent months on the same team. The reporter did not believe him. To prove his point, Snider said to the Mets catcher, “Choo-Choo, do you know me?” Choo-Choo replied, “Yes, you’re number 4.” Roger Craig once said: “Choo-Choo would give you the sign and then look down to see what it was.”
        
        The authors of The Great American Baseball Card Flipping, Trading and Bubble Gum Book, Brendan C. Boyd & Fred C. Harris, Little Brown & Co, 1973, had this to say about Coleman on p. 37, next to a picture of his baseball card: “Choo-Choo Coleman was the quintessence of the early New York Mets. He was a 5’8″, 160-pound catcher who never hit over .250 in the majors, had 9 career home runs, 30 career RBIs, and couldn’t handle pitchers. Plus his name was Choo-Choo. What more could you ask for?”
        
        http://www.liquisearch.com/choo-choo_coleman/quotes
        
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        November 5, 2016 4:21pm
      - SPC
        
        It will get worse as/when the Cubs return to the playoffs.
        
        It was simpler when those who walked in white sox could enjoy their winter walk over the ruined dreams of the bear cubs during the 100 year hibernation.
        
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        November 5, 2016 5:39pm
      - SPC
        
        As for the omens, they are all bad.
        
        The bull market post 45 ends with the bear cubs victory. The 71 year curse of the goat coincided with economic growth and global involvement. It may end with a return to the 1929 policy era isolationism that preceded World War reprise.
        
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        November 5, 2016 7:01pm
- Manolo
  
  I’m Irish green with envy. Enjoy it, mate.
  
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  November 5, 2016 4:25pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  And Alinea and Grace have retained their 3 Michelin stars
  http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/michelin-guide-star-awards-for-chicago-being-to-leak-out/
  some fine dining to be had in Chicago
  
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  November 5, 2016 10:19pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

Market Indicator Gives Trump An 86% Chance Of Winning The Election

“historically, the market performance in the three months leading up to a Presidential Election has displayed an uncanny ability to forecast who will win the White House… the incumbent party or the challenger. Since 1928, there have been 22 Presidential Elections. In 14 of them, the S&P 500 climbed during the three months preceding election day. The incumbent President or party won in 12 of those 14 instances. However, in 7 of the 8 elections where the S&P 500 fell over that three month period, the incumbent party lost.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/market-indicator-gives-trump-86-chance-winning-election
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November 5, 2016 12:25pm
Stars And Stripes

Countdown apologises for false shoplifting accusation that embarrassed teen
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/86102122/countdown-apologises-for-false-shoplifting-accusation-that-embarrassed-teen
“A supermarket chain accused of racial profiling has apologised to a Maori teenager after falsely labelling her a thief.”
“Her mother, Pania Kawana, who is a lecturer in Palmerston North, said there could have been some racial profiling involved.”.

Oh really.
Is their any evidence to support that assertion besides the fact you said so and have a feeling about it.
Interesting the mother is a lecturer at Te Tari Puna Ora o Aotearoa/NZ which when reading their website seems to go heavily for the Māori angle on things so I wonder if this is helping to stoke the mothers racial take on things.
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November 5, 2016 1:06pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  More that 50% of the prison population is tangata whenua so it is a more than fair chance that the supermarket is right; just saying
  
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  November 5, 2016 1:53pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Right to apologise, or right to assume that it was just another Maori family stealing?
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:02pm
    - AgentBallSack
      
      25,600 low calorie ~~comments~~ snarks and counting
      
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      November 5, 2016 4:30pm
Reid

So what does everyone think will happen to the media in the States over this?

It’s too much to hope that people will ask themselves how the hell the media could have possibly completely missed everything about Killary for decades, isn’t it. Do you think the American sheeple are bright enough to ask themselves that? Let alone that but to think that through as to if this is the case what does that say about our media and what else might they have missed?

That’s far too much to ask for, IMO. But what about you people who are currently in the process of vigorously swallowing wholesale the current war propaganda on Russia? Where do you stand on those questions? Have you asked maybe if the media can “accidentally” miss so much about Killary, what does that say about their veracity on other matters?

http://www.unz.com/article/an-obituary-of-the-new-york-times/
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November 5, 2016 1:11pm
- Komata
  
  Reid
  Part of the problem is that for a long time the media were actually really trustworthy. and were good at their job. Unfortunately, this ‘trust’ (and indeed media impartiality and competence) gradually eroded over time, yet long-standing and well-held residual memory still insisted that because they HAD been trustworthy, TV and newspapers were still going to be – especially when an election was involved. How could they NOT be? |As we have discovered recently, the question should really have been ‘Why SHOULD they be ‘trusted’? It has been an eye-opener for many in both the USA and elsewhere, yet there are still those die-hards who, for whatever reason, refuse to accept that their trust may in fact be misplaced. That may be the answer t0 your question; That to NOT trust (despite being given very good reasons that this really should be so) is more difficult than remaining with the status quo, and that to consider that the former may actually be a viable state is unthinkable. Mindsets can sometimes take a long time to change.
  
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  November 5, 2016 2:20pm
  - Reid
    
    Yeah it started happening in the 80’s. The 70’s was the last period we had real journalists and real outlets.
    
    Now it’s all just propaganda. Posted a good article some while back on analysis in readers in the states and they found most support was from older Democrats – 43 or so % of them still support it, for the very reason you outline.
    
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    November 5, 2016 4:25pm
Jazz-Hands Mc Feels

John Pilger interviews Julian Assange:

Julian Assange Says Trump Won’t Be Allowed To Win, “Clinton And ISIS Are Funded By The Same Money”

“My analysis is that Trump would not be permitted to win. Why do I say that? Because he has had every establishment off his side…. Banks, intelligence, arms companies, foreign money, etc. are all united behind Hillary Clinton. And the media as well. Media owners, and the journalists themselves.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/julian-assange-says-trump-wont-be-allowed-win-clinton-and-isis-are-funded-same-money
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November 5, 2016 1:28pm
- Komata
  
  A certain George Soros (well-known as a Clinton puppet-master) has said as much. although as it doesn’t fit the narrative, the media have been extremely-quiet in reporting this minor detail.
  
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  November 5, 2016 2:22pm
Reid

Senior intelligence insider announces a counter-coup against Killary. To save the Republic, patriots have engineered the takedown silently and bloodlessly using Wikileaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

Who Is Steve Pieczenik? Clinton’s Coup & FBI’s Counter-Coup via Wikileaks & FOIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kZ4tBx_IZ4
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November 5, 2016 1:40pm
- Komata
  
  This evidently occurred on Thursday (NZ Time) and is being studiously ignored by the MSM.
  
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  November 5, 2016 2:25pm
Reid

https://i.sli.mg/3Ay9ak.jpg
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November 5, 2016 1:54pm
Jack5

Strayed on to Maori TV late last night.

Wondered where I was. Red Indians opposing a pipeline in North Dakota, blue-eyed Sami (Lapplanders) attacking Norwegian financial institutions for investing in the pipeline.

“Indigenous solidarity” is the latest campaign on taxpayer-funded Maori TV.

Meanwhile, DNA research indicates the “indigenous” band-waggon has no wheels. Ancient movements of population before and after Ice Ages, seem to indicate the only true indigenous human beings are those in southern and central Africa. We all ultimately stem from there, even the Neanderthals, who contributed some of our genes.

The Sami are an example. Their language and their genes are of the Finno-Ugric group, which includes Finns, Estonians, and Hungarians, and a number of other ethnic groups in Russia. But they want to be seen as unique, and in far-off New Zealand, a taxpayer-funded TV channel supports them.

The Dakota pipeline protests are being fomented by anti-frackers and other environmentalists, all against Dakota Access Pipeline, a $US3.7 billion investment to move 470,000 barrels of domestic crude oil a day through four states.

The CNN report linked to below indicates local Sioux protesters are in a small minority. What is an NZ taxpayer-funded TV channel doing when it allies itself with these motley activists?

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/29/us/dakota-pipeline-standing-rock-sioux/
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November 5, 2016 1:56pm
- mikenmild
  
  So the aboriginal inhabitant of an area should enjoy no special regard, as we all descend from the same primates hundreds of thousands of years ago?
  
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  November 5, 2016 2:00pm
  - Jack5
    
    Milky, I think Leftists have more baboon in them and less chimpanzee and orang-utan.
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:16pm
- Kimbo
  
  On a brighter note, Jack5, today is Guy Fawkes, where we celebrate the deliverance of traditional Protestant-derived liberties from Roman Catholic-inspired terrorist oppression.
  
  Sorry, lapsed into stephieboy trolling-mode there for a moment 😉
  
  Remember, remember!
  The fifth of November,
  The Gunpowder treason and plot;
  I know of no reason
  Why the Gunpowder treason
  Should ever be forgot!
  Guy Fawkes and his companions
  Did the scheme contrive,
  To blow the King and Parliament
  All up alive.
  Threescore barrels, laid below,
  To prove old England’s overthrow.
  But, by God’s providence, him they catch,
  With a dark lantern, lighting a match!
  A stick and a stake
  For King James’s sake!
  If you won’t give me one,
  I’ll take two,
  The better for me,
  And the worse for you.
  A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,
  A penn’orth of cheese to choke him,
  A pint of beer to wash it down,
  And a jolly good fire to burn him.
  Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!
  Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!
  Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!
  
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  November 5, 2016 2:08pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Oh, but look, Red Radio and a Vic Uni history academic are wringing their hands suitably (adverb alert!) over it. 😉
    
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/afternoons/audio/201822383/guy-fawkes-an-'anti-catholic'-celebration
    
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    November 5, 2016 2:11pm
    - Jack5
      
      The Leftists don’t care much about Catholicism or Christianity generally except when they’ve got some sort of political bone to chew on.
      
      Obviously Guy Fox, for trying to blow up Parliament, was destined to be a Lefty hero, regardless of which Christian sect he was from.
      A 1605, Cockney Che Guevera.
      
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      November 5, 2016 2:23pm
      - GoVege
        
        I got a shock yonks ago to discover a NZ aid organization was full of Catholics.
        Look at any Catholic nation on this planet and the lives of their women and children are nearly as bad as in Muslim ones, overall.
        Imagine how different South and Central America would be if it weren’t tainted by Catholicism.
        
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        November 5, 2016 2:44pm
      - Kimbo
        
        @ GoVege
        
        You might think that. I couldn’t possibly comment… 😉
        
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        November 5, 2016 2:52pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”Imagine how different South and Central America would be if it weren’t tainted by Catholicism.”…..
        
        Why stop there? Think of the nirvana of peace & tranquillity we could all live in were our lives not blighted by the concept of a magic man in the sky!
        
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        November 5, 2016 3:09pm
      - mikenmild
        
        It has been arguably helpful for the development of humanity to be able to attribute voices in the head to divine benevolence rather than a mental illness.
        
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        November 5, 2016 3:14pm
      - nasska
        
        True…..but with modern understanding of mental disease we could afford to can the charades. Ditch the Sky Fairy nonsense & tell the afflicted to lick their cellphone batteries!
        
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        November 5, 2016 3:21pm
      - Jack5
        
        GoVege at 2.44 posted: “Look at any Catholic nation on this planet and the lives of their women and children are nearly as bad as in Muslim ones, overall.”
        
        If you’re talking abut wealth, GoVege, Luxembourg, on purchasing power per capita, is the second wealthiest country in the world (the richest is Qatar). Luxembourg is 87 per cent Roman Catholic.
        
        Still, money doesn’t mean women and children necessarily have great lives. I doubt they have a great life in Qatar.
        
        Interestingly, my source puts Singapore at third richest. This is an astonishing performance. Does anyone-else remember how dirt poor Singapore was half a century ago?
        
        Then for decades NZ gave Singapore trade preferences because it was a developing country, and hundreds, perhaps thousands, of young Singaporeans came to NZ to study.
        
        When we feel tempted to boast about how well NZ has done economically, we should consider Singapore’s performance, and shut up.
        
        https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world?page=12
        
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        November 5, 2016 3:25pm
      - Fletch
        
        Actually, it was Catholics who came up with the first hospitals, universities, etc etc, so yeh, you’d all be a lot worse off.
        
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        November 5, 2016 3:28pm
      - SPC
        
        Fletch, Tarsus was the one of the three top universities of the age when Saul went there and came out with enough learning to declare God to the Gentiles.
        
        By the time civilisation returned to Christian Europe universities and hospitals existed in the Moslem world.
        
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        November 5, 2016 5:13pm
    - Gabby
      
      For one, I always look forward to Better Luck Next Time Day.
      
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      November 6, 2016 9:40am
  - SPC
    
    Yes, but the continuance of James meant his divine right teaching to his son Charles and the continuance of Parliament led to the Civil War and that to Cromwell’s autocracy/tyranny in place of both Crown and parliament.
    
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    November 5, 2016 5:18pm
    - Kimbo
      
      Oliver Cromwell – a toss up between him and Elizabeth I for “the best king England never had”!
      
      Now, just counting who is going to be the first to post the words, “Drogheda” or “slavery in Jamaica”. And I think either Reid or EAD finger Cromwell for some nefarious sovereignty-sell-out deal with Dutch/Jewish bankers 5, 4, 3… 😉
      
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      November 5, 2016 5:26pm
      - SPC
        
        A pity the Levellers never took his head off for crimes against the revolution.
        
        But the Joos were useful to build networks to latter supplant the Dutch trading empire.
        
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        November 5, 2016 5:30pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Of course Cromwell was in league with duh Jewish bankers when he decided to let the Jews back in .Interstingly Charles II never overturned that decision so we can say from that time on the English Monarchy were also in cahoots .
        
        Right EAD und Reid ? !
        
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        November 5, 2016 5:39pm
mikenmild

The Maori All Blacks had a pretty easy win over the USA.
I see the US has John Mitchell as coach, to take them on a ‘journey’ to the next RWC. He’ll probably be ousted by another player revolt well before then, though.
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November 5, 2016 3:08pm
- Kimbo
  
  Does the stupid wanker insist on the American players referring to him as “the gaffer” like he did with the All Blacks?
  
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  November 5, 2016 3:13pm
- mikenmild
  
  I don’t know about that, or whether he is handicapping their best players by wanting to correct the way they hold the ball…
  
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  November 5, 2016 3:17pm
  - Kimbo
    
    I wasn’t aware of that story. What was the source? Christian Cullen? Granted some All Blacks of that era – Jonah Lomu – seldom seemed to run with the ball in both hands, or, if going for the line with it tucked under the outside arm so they could fend. Not that Jonah needed to fend that often! One of our greatest players and poorer wingers…
    
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    November 5, 2016 3:21pm
  - Kimbo
    
    Probably the thing that pissed me off so much about Mitchell was that, having dropped a number of senior players (fair enough, his prerogative) and also Colonel Martin (not ‘fair enough’!), he then bitched and moaned when he too was dropped for failing to deliver with a crew and set-up that was entirely of his own making. What comes around goes around.
    
    Also, for all the Robbie Deans supporters, the guy has written two books and in neither of them gave ~~an adequate~~ any explanation as to why they foolishly (adverb alert!) flushed the Colonel.
    
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    November 5, 2016 3:29pm
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Yeah such was Mitchell and Deans genius, that in a RWC semifinal they played a small fullback (MACDONALD) at center against one of the biggest and best centres in world rugby in Stirling Mortlock. This because Tana Umga was only 90% fit for that semi.
      Christian Cullen, one of our best ever full backs, was 25 when Mitchell & Deans ended his international career.
      As with the All Blacks, Mitchell’s coaching tenures have ended in disaster and controversy surrounding his behaviour. He promised much and delivered nothing.
      
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      November 5, 2016 4:05pm
      - Kimbo
        
        The Umaga injury I’m at least prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt as we have the wisdom of hindsight. Plus as Carlos Spencer’s goal kicking was so unreliable, they had to have McDonald in the team, and Muliaina was in very good form. And Spencer proved to be the crucial selection when he decided to throw that wide cut-out pass, contrary to instructions.
        
        But once that b&%$&#@ George Smith late-tackled Justin Marshall and he had to go off with a broken rib, we were stuffed. Not so much the backs, but more dominated for possession in the forwards. Which was Mitchell’s specialist area of coaching.
        
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        November 5, 2016 4:08pm
      - SPC
        
        That was a strange year. McDonald was FB but got injured. So the utility (had been a winger only but did so well at centre for the Blues he was picked as a utility back) Mils M played at FB. His counter-attacking made the team better so they decided to make him No 1 FB. But without Umaga, the natural move was to go back to McDonald at FB and play the utility at centre (as LM had never played centre at Super level).
        
        In the SF the Oz team could reliably get go forward at centre – LM while a good tackler found it difficult to cope with the position against someone of Mortlock’s capability.
        
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        November 5, 2016 5:07pm
- wiseowl
  
  No such thing as Moori all blacks.
  
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  November 5, 2016 6:08pm
Fletch

Clinton campaigners involved in the satanic practice of “spirit cooking” (I know, I hadn’t heard of it either).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfL5KwUuvMc
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November 5, 2016 3:43pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Embarrassing for everyone on the right who has to suffer through association with the credulous fools who believe in such supernatural ‘satanic’ mumbo-jumbo. Like those who profess belief in astrology or other irrationality it just makes them look like idiots and reduces their credibility.
  
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  November 5, 2016 4:04pm
Reid

Just as NATO decided to deploy over a dozen AWACS planes in Turkey to keep an eye on Syria, Russia rolled out several new aircraft allowing Moscow to jam NATO intelligence gathering operations at the flick of a switch. And that’s not even counting the jamming capabilities of ground-based systems already deployed. Whether Russia decides to use this equipment selectively or on a mass scale remains to be seen, but one thing is certain: NATO officials probably won’t be the ones to admit that their surveillance operation in Syria isn’t gathering as much useful info as they hoped they would get.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201611031047046141-russian-tools-against-nato-AWACS-planes/
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November 5, 2016 4:04pm
Reid

British newspapers react to judges’ Brexit ruling: ‘Enemies of the people’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/04/enemies-of-the-people-british-newspapers-react-judges-brexit-ruling
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November 5, 2016 4:06pm
Reid

Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/04/anthony-weiner-rides-through-sex-addiction-rehab-on-a-horse/
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November 5, 2016 4:19pm
Manolo

Scum and proud supporter of the uber corrupt Clinton:
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/jay-z-hillary-clinton-concert-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

Jay Z was entirely uncensored Friday night at a concert for Hillary Clinton.

The rapper repeatedly used the n-word and dropped the f-bomb as he performed “F — WithMeYouKnowIGotIt” and his hit “Dirt off Your Shoulder” song at a Cleveland rally.

“You’re tuned into the motherf—– greatest,” a voice said as Jay Z appeared onstage.
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November 5, 2016 4:35pm
Reid

Virtually the whole planet holds its collective breath at the prospect of Hillary Clinton possibly becoming the next President of the United States (POTUS).

How’s that humanly possible, as the (daily) Bonfire of The Scandals – relentlessly fed by WikiLeaks revelations and now converging FBI investigations – can now be seen from interstellar space?

Quite so, even stephie should be able to see it now. I bet he doesn’t though.

http://thesaker.is/what-does-it-take-to-bring-hillary-clinton-to-justice/
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November 5, 2016 4:46pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid. , your fellow Trumpists can’t wait to smell the uranium on Trump’s breadth come this Tuesday .
  
  And Trump divert resources from the Mexico border wall to help Putin te build the Berlin Wall .
  
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  November 5, 2016 5:45pm
Manolo

Ah, the Family. Al Capone would be proud:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/04/hillary-deleted-email-showing-she-forwarded-classified-information-to-her-daughter/

Hillary Clinton deleted a 2009 email in which she forwarded classified information to her daughter, Chelsea.

The email was released on Friday by the State Department. It is one of thousands of documents recovered by the FBI from Clinton’s private email server.
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November 5, 2016 4:58pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Insider trading is always illegal, but this is made worse because email had classified info related to greek debt crisis, (during crisis) and Chelsea’s husband’s (now defunct) firm traded in Greek debt.
  
  This is yet another agency (securities) that will be investigating, and they have a habit of hitting very very hard.
  
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  November 5, 2016 5:04pm
  - stephieboy
    
    UN, but this pales in comparison to Trump” legacy of failed business floats and operations including bankrupt casinos and not forgetting the scam of Trump University ,
    
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432826/donald-trumps-scandals-and-business-failures-roundup
    
    And is well known the times Trump has been in trouble with the SEC and find heavily for his dodgy stock dealings ,
    
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/donald-trump-fine-ftc-sec-stocks
    
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    November 5, 2016 6:09pm
Reid

Further on my 1.40 Steve Pieczenik vid, here he is on a much longer expansion. This is an intelligence community heavyweight saying that Hilary is being taken down by a counter-coup, he was one of the founders of Delta Force, Head of Psychological Warfare in the State Dept, Deputy Assistant Secretary under I think Bush 41. My 1.40 has a background vid too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zic64WhR14k
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November 5, 2016 5:49pm
- SPC
  
  Being taken down infers they can determine an election result. And a subsequent impeachment is only successful if there are votes in the Senate to convict – election result again.
  
  PNAC hubris and now this lot of Republican Trumpists … . International menace to domestic authoritarians.
  
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  November 5, 2016 5:58pm
  - Reid
    
    SPC as explained in the links I’ve given above on this, it’s a coup from the intel and other patriots to take down Clinton with everything including RICO charges using wikileaks.
    
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    November 5, 2016 6:03pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , is this the same fellow who claims Gadaffii is alive and other sundry conspiracy nonsense ?
  
  http://source1news.com/news-blog/2011/10/21/no-way-they-killed-gaddafi-obama-is-an-obsessional-pathological-liar-steve-pieczenik-reports/#.WB1sDHTXehC
  
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  November 5, 2016 6:23pm
  - Reid
    
    I don’t know stupidboy, since your link gives no details whatsoever.
    
    Why am I not surprised.
    
    In case you’re wondering, it has a gif and one sentence, and nothing else. I clicked on the gif, and nothing happened.
    
    I realise stephie this amount of data probably seems encyclopeadic to you, but it doesn’t to anybody else.
    
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    November 5, 2016 6:40pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , well he can’t get more bizarre than this ,
      
      FORMER CIA OPERATOR STEVE PIECZENIK: “NIBIRU IS REAL, AND HILLARY KNOWS”
      
      “..We have yet to provide Assange with all the emails,” Pieczenik told our source. “Nibiru is real, and Hillary Clinton knows about it.” A “top secret” email, siphoned from Clinton’s controversial private email server, paints a sinister picture, proving that Clinton helped orchestrate a Nibiru dis-information campaign while she served as Secretary of State in 2010.. “,
      
      http://www.someonesbones.com/blog/former-cia-operator-steve-pieczenik-nibiru-is-real-and-hillary-knows/
      
      I mean to say do you seriously believe in this kind of stuff ?
      
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      November 5, 2016 7:39pm
BeeSting

Hillary Clinton and Blow Job Bill

https://youtu.be/KiIP_KDQmXs

Even a Song

https://youtu.be/_ZfrLTD1PZ0

The White Wizard Reckons

Here Be Treason

https://www.rt.com/news/365299-assange-pilger-saudi-clinton/
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November 5, 2016 6:47pm
Reid

It’s an interesting point, that the Russian task force saved Syria from a US-NATO cruise missile strike by positioning herself where she now has.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/04/admiral-kuznetsov-carrier-group-saved-syria-from-us-cruise-missile-strikes/

and it left without this, possibly suggesting timing was important.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/04/russias-frigate-admiral-grigorovich-sets-off-to-syria/

This is a good article too:
http://thesaker.is/making-sense-of-the-russian-naval-task-force-off-the-coast-of-syria/
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November 5, 2016 7:17pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , Veterans Today and The Saker should try and stop chasing ghosts and put some focus on the US-led offensive against Mosul by Iraqi , Kurd and Shia militias ,
  
  Iraq and Kurdish forces enter Mosul .
  
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/317351/iraq-govt,-kurdish-forces-enter-mosul-city
  
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  November 5, 2016 7:46pm
  - Reid
    
    stupidboy, what the hell does any of that have to do with what I linked to or said?
    
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    November 5, 2016 7:52pm
    - stephieboy
      
      Reid , I believe you have in the past attempted to either belittle US efforts against ISIS or suggest that they help create ISIS .
      
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      November 5, 2016 7:57pm
      - Reid
        
        You mean like wikileaks does too stephie? Yes, I have done that. So evidently, I was right and you were wrong.
        
        Wasn’t I.
        
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        November 5, 2016 8:02pm
Reid

This is interesting, Jaguar Factory Tour – 1961

You see all the machining that went in which these days is done by the component manufacturers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKJPFRNO344
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November 5, 2016 7:47pm
- stephieboy
  
  Reid , why Jaguar is now thriving under Indian owner car maker Tata ,
  
  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/news/trans-canada-highway/why-jaguar-is-finally-thriving-and-rolling-in-cash-under-tata/article17678401/
  
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  November 5, 2016 7:53pm
BeeSting

Proof there is a God

https://youtu.be/qPuffyhHXgQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oy,_to_ne_vecher

https://youtu.be/bvAQvDvyvxk
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November 5, 2016 8:11pm
BeeSting

Old Cossack song

Black Raven

https://youtu.be/5g0rUiZ_FFU

Warning
If you do not like Beautiful Woman look away
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November 5, 2016 8:27pm
- Jack5
  
  Very good. Thank you, BeeSting.
  
  I enjoyed as well the next song in the series you pointed to.
  
  For others of us who haven’t yet heard him, here’s a great Russian bass, Boris Shtokolov, singing a much-loved Russian song, the setting of a Pushkin poem. Russian basses are great.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okcr7gcCM9o
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:21pm
nasska

Cheer up Hillary.

Nelson Mandela wasn’t elected president until he had served 27 years in prison.
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November 5, 2016 8:34pm
- sooty
  
  Hillary may have to spend 27yrs in prison before she can be elected president!
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:58pm
- stephieboy
  
  nasska , and released by the last white apartheid government Feb 11th 1990 ,
  
  http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nelson-mandela-released-from-prison
  
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  November 5, 2016 9:30pm
Manolo

stephieboy’s mates are as violent as their prophet:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/33102861/is-leader-urges-mosul-fighters/#page1

Al-Baghdadi called on his militants to transform into rivers the blood of the Iraqi forces attempting to retake Mosul in Nineveh province.
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November 5, 2016 8:37pm
Manolo

It would be wise to avoid Indonesia:
http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2016/11/04/indoislam5things/

Indonesia has had a tradition of moderate Islam in a culture influenced by Hinduism and Buddhism. But the tenor has changed in recent years, with conservative Muslims and hard-line groups gaining traction in pushing for stricter moral laws and social norms.
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November 5, 2016 8:41pm
- mikenmild
  
  What influences do you think have encouraged the rise of more conservative strains is Islam in Indonesia?
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:55pm
  - Manolo
    
    Very low levels of education among the masses, and a great deal of money from Saudi Arabia for mosque building and indoctrination. The escalation over the last decade is huge.
    
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    November 5, 2016 9:01pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    You should read V.S. Naipul 1979: Among the believers: an islamic journey.
    
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    November 5, 2016 10:06pm
    - stephieboy
      
      “If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home.” ― James A. Michener
      
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      November 5, 2016 10:21pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Yes, I can read the Wiki review quotes, too.
        
        Read the books.
        
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        November 5, 2016 10:22pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, another review ,
        
        “A good travelogue but a very very bad social science book. Filled with hate and prejudices which the author wants to complete with a confirmation bias.”
        
        Not very encouraging !
        
        http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54161.Among_the_Believers_
        
        I understand every Shia he encountered he either detested or displayed contempt .
        
        I have read dome of his other books though
        
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        November 5, 2016 10:25pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        stephieboy,
        
        you can choose to read the reviews, or you could read the original and learn to think for yourself.
        
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        November 5, 2016 10:45pm
      - Manolo
        
        Read, my Muslim friend. Follow Maggy’s advice and educate yourself.
        
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        November 6, 2016 6:00am
BeeSting

Thank you Manolo

I would just like to point out that Obama was educated there and since Indonesia was responsible
for the genocide of Christians in East Timor
about 220,000 I think it is safe to say looking at the mess him and Hilary have made of the Middle East

They Taught him well don’t you think?
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November 5, 2016 8:45pm
- Manolo
  
  Apparently the Messiah was an excellent student at the local madrasa before getting into the closet. He will resurface one day.
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:54pm
- mikenmild
  
  Not really an religious element to that slaughter.
  Like the mass murders of communists (and imagined communists) in the 1960s.
  
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  November 5, 2016 8:57pm
BeeSting

http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2009/01/08/a-dark-past-in-east-timor-for-obamas-national-intelligence-nominee/
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November 5, 2016 8:52pm
stephieboy

Beesting , so the President was responsible for the alleged Church killings by that Admiral back in 1999?
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November 5, 2016 9:16pm
stephieboy

Reid

You mean like wikileaks does too stephie? Yes, I have done that. So evidently, I was right and you were wrong.

Wasn’t I.

No , wrong !, A stupid conspiracy theory of yours and wiki leaks that originated with Iranian “news” sources ,

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/19/blog-posting/edward-snowden-leaked-nsa-documents-show-us-israel/

Obviously, it can’t explain the current US lead offensive against Mosul that includes Shia Militias . Not to speak of the thousands of USAF air sorties against ISIS in Iraq and Syria .
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November 5, 2016 9:47pm
BeeSting

See if you can figure this one out

OBAMA OSAMA

what letters change?
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November 6, 2016 12:14am
- stephieboy
  
  TRUMP HUMP
  
  What letters change ?
  
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  November 6, 2016 7:36am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Creepyboy Stephie
    
    Still the same letters -lol
    
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    November 6, 2016 7:44am
Left Right and Centre

Excellent – it’s the latest loser msm sob story . . .
No-hopers that want a taxpayer provided house for life . . .
This lot are *perfect* – what have we got ?
Mum passes on after renting state house **27 years**.
They get 21 days notice from HNZ – so far so good.
And then the whining to msm – the latest idiots.
And we go through the same old same old routine again of pointing out . . . it’s a bloody rental.
They don’t own it – and – it’s social housing. It’s not their farkin house.
Aaaah – we could’ve tried to get a deposit together to buy it.
Yeah, *right* . . . *losers*. Dream on with that delusion. Is that why two grown women (or one – who knows or cares) were planning on staying in mother’s state rental for the rest of time ? Because they’re onto it enough to work out how to buy it ? Whatever.
One idiot thinks because she was born residing at the state rental that it meant she didn’t need to be on the lease. That’s brown dumbarse non-logic.

One of them had a son – a grandchild to the named tenant – that died ten years ago. What of ? So – that’s three gens of welfare were living there – groovy.
What a shitarse grotty state rental to ‘be attached to’. That’s like someone saying they’re attached to some dogshit on their shoe sole. Incredible.
Two uncles – one retarded of course – live there. How many is that now ? Anyone keeping score ?
So what do they want ? Live there forever ? Pass it on forever to next gen ? It’s our social housing rental to hand down ?
You’re not meant to get attached to an ugly ‘where do we put these useless shitheads for the least cost’ unit.
Not many people stay in the same house or rental their whole life. They don’t know what normal is. Abnormal lives – I just want to do nothing but hang out in mum’s rental for my entire time on earth. That’s a full life never getting out of Titahi Bay. I wonder if they’ve ever seen Plimmerton and walked along the waterfront or been in the parks there ?
I’d love to see follow-up stories – see what happened to all of these dreamers.
It says that HNZ staff smirked at one of them. It’s hard not to smirk at mental cases who are laughably ignorant and thick as pigshit. They just come out with one breathtaking expectation after another – a mere smirk requires exceptional talent and restraint. Howling raucous laughter is the natural inclination.

Need some change like ten year limit then out. Review.
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November 6, 2016 2:57am
Manolo

Some people dislike the uber corrupt Mrs Clinton:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-presidential-elector-vote-hillary-clinton/story?id=43319247
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