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Keeping Stock

Morning all!

Just for a moment during the week it felt like summer had arrived. Oh well….
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November 26, 2016 8:01am
duggledog

I declare today to be David Garrett Day on KB.

Yesterday, a piece of shit got seven years for not believing the state would ever put its foot down. Ah ha ha ha ha ha.

Wish I could have seen the offender’s little face when Toogood handed down the stretch.

That’s what Three Strikes is all about I reckon. The dropjaw.

As with little children and stupid people, sometimes you have to follow through on the threats, which we haven’t done in New Zealand for an awfully long time. Thanks to Garrett, now we are.

Naturally, National Radio reported the story complete with a nasty, clearly partisan swipe at Sir David by reminding us all what an awful man he is what with the baby’s ID and the punch-up. Yawn.

Naturally – and in a way this is the best bit – they interviewed some big-noter from the legal fraternity, and Ardern, and a QC who all insisted the punishment was basically pure evil.

Guys. Listen and learn. What just happened in the UK and the USA?

The punters got f***ed off with the elite being way out of touch. You surely couldn’t find a worse disconnect. 90%+ of kiwis will be overjoyed by the 3S decision.
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November 26, 2016 8:02am
- Chuck Bird
  
  It should also be noted that David supported the judge’s appropriate use of his discretion in this case unlike the other judges who used their discretion to go soft on killers with a long criminal history.
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:12am
  - GoVege
    
    This guy is NOT a killer!
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:32am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      But he has little impulse control (in face of pretty serious consequences) and lack of respect for others = dangerous to society
      
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      November 26, 2016 6:17pm
- Viking2
  
  I see Blair and one of the other ex PM’s ranting about another brexit vote.
  
  Idiots forever.
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:40am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Yes – what that man said
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:41am
- cmm
  
  You can only uptick once. Bugger.
  
  Put your second uprticks here – kudos to d-dog.
  
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  November 26, 2016 9:31am
  - GoVege
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    What dorks would want to uptick a stupid comment commending a young guy getting 7 years for a 1-2 second pinch of a female guards butt?
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:16am
    - Awww C-mon
      
      Me, I’m the dork.
      
      Now fuck off and eat some steak, the missing protein from your diet has turned you into whining little bitch.
      
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      November 26, 2016 10:30am
      - GoVege
        
        Nah, all the fat from that mammal meat you dine on has stuffed up your blood flow to your brain.
        Go vegequarian and you might regain the ability to distinguish between dangerous people who should be locked up for the safety of the public, and troubled young people who need support and guidance.
        
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        November 26, 2016 10:36am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        What crock of shit,
        
        How do you know he’s just a young guy who made a few mistakes? None of other crimes have been reported.
        
        But the suits the story aye, use emotive language, blame the system, speak from a place of ignorance but sound knowledgeable, offer a shoulder to cry on for the poor crim.
        
        When and where are you standing for labour?
        
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        November 26, 2016 10:54am
      - holysheet
        
        GoVeg is not displaying his stratospheric IQ he professes he has. The more he comments on here the more he disproves his stratospheric IQ. More like that displayed by the stupidboys, in the minus range.
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:28am
      - GoVege
        
        Holy sheet: Fellas getting jealous?
        Go vege and you too can have an IQ in the stratosphere, not in a subterranean basement as at present.
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:47am
      - holysheet
        
        You are the fuckwit who said he had a stratospheric IQ. No good trying to deny it now.
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:54am
      - Gabby
        
        Who tweaked your tail feathers to make you squawwwk like that? You whining little bitchlike squawwwky thing.
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:55am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Gabby, do you know our mate Go Vege?
        
        One of you only eats veggies and the other is normally one by 2pm when the sherry bottles get hammered
        
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        November 26, 2016 12:03pm
      - GoVege
        
        Awww-C,mon:
        The other crimes are all over the net.
        Even the Criminal Bar Association is calling the sentence “barbaric”.
        You may lack any sympathy for the victim of this stupid law, but unlike the victims of your carnivorous habits, this young man and thousands like him will not always be powerless to exact revenge on the heartless dorks who sentenced them.
        One day they WILL get out, and there will be a lot of very angry young men on our streets.
        
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        November 26, 2016 12:09pm
      - GoVege
        
        I’m not denying it Aw-C’mon.
        All the greatest brains on the planet have been vegetarians.
        Richard Dawkins, Einstein, Voltaire.
        Not sure about Stephen Hawking but I know he like to refer to other animals as “persons”.
        It’s only the stubbornly thick who refuse to recognize that all animals on this planet are related, and we are just the mammal species currently in charge.
        
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        November 26, 2016 12:17pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        So what were his other violent crimes vege?
        
        Victim of the law? No the victims are the people he offended against, he is under the judgement of the law
        
        Streets full of angry young men? Bullshit, little fucking punks that need to learn to be accountable for their own actions, if you keep make excuses for them they will never change their behaviours. Get a fucking clue.
        
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        November 26, 2016 12:20pm
      - Northland Wahine
        
        Awww c-mon… and I’m a dorkette…
        
        This guy was already a strike 2 server (go vege, just in case it isn’t clear, 2 comes before 3), so what idiot would attempt to assault a female prison officer while serving time? Obviously a candidate for a 3rd strike.
        
        I for one am grateful the prison officer wasn’t seriously harmed and this idiot wasn’t on the outside to commit a much more serious offence for his third strike.
        
        David my friend, I owe you a very large drink.
        
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        November 26, 2016 3:28pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @GoVege 12:17pm
        
        Could you please provide your evidence that Richard Dawkins is a vegetarian.
        
        As far as I am aware, he has never been a vegetarian, and freely admits to eating meat.
        http://a-bas-le-ciel.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/richard-dawkins-eats-meat-and-makes-excuses-for-it.html
        
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        November 26, 2016 4:13pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        Eating meat makes you smarter:
        
        http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/eating-red-meat-improves-memory-by-boosting-key-compound-in-the-brain-535726.html
        
        We evolved as omnivores, and don’t produce some nutrients due to reliance on consumption of meat. Meat is an important part of our diet and it is wrong and silly to turn your back on it for some weird justification based on anthropomorphological projection of interpersonal human preferences onto animals.
        
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        November 26, 2016 6:22pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @Urbanneocolonist
        The early advocates for vegetarianism in the US favoured the vege-way-of-life as it suppressed their libido.
        http://nowiknow.com/the-curious-history-of-graham-crackers-and-corn-flakes/
        
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        November 26, 2016 9:13pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Sooo… vegetarians are soft cocks. What a surprise.
        
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        November 26, 2016 10:25pm
    - Peter
      
      “Campbell had committed two violent offences previously – and was now on his third strike, meaning he would have to serve out the full term of the maximum available sentence.The maximum for indecent assault is seven years.”
      
      He got it for failing to learn his lesson. The lesson is this “don’t assault people”
      
      I would have given anything to see his face – expecting to be crim-hugged by some wet and then laughing in the huggers face – instead, he got his ass handed to him on a plate.
      
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      November 26, 2016 12:41pm
    - GoVege
      
      Thank you for that link about Dawkins, Maggie.
      All I can say is I am astonished and very disappointed that he doesn’t “walk the talk”.
      
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      November 26, 2016 10:22pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I’m more interested in your views about how the “moral” high ground of vegetarianism has shifted from “don’t feed the animal within” (i.e. no sexual thoughts) to animals have rights.
        (and at what level of animal evolution do you draw the line….is it ok to kill mosquitoes, blow flies, …
        what about fungi?)
        
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        November 26, 2016 10:38pm
      - GoVege
        
        Urban neocolonialist: do you have companion animals?
        Would you eat them?
        If not, why not?
        Because of anthropomorphic projections?
        Or because you love them and you know they love you back?
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:01pm
- Biscuit
  
  Hmmm, 62 upticks after I just added mine … and only 7 downticks.
  
  Does that not give the ferals the feeling that maybe, just maybe, decent New Zealanders are a tad tired of far-left-liberalism…
  
  Sneeze at a dolphin or even glare at a kauri tree and the left are all up in arms. Commit three crimes against your fellow human beings, though, and those same leftists are all ‘Give him another chance!’…
  
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  November 26, 2016 3:51pm
  - GoVege
    
    Biscuit: did you know that nearly 50% of young Maori males go to jail?
    Maybe they were taught to steal and raised to be violent, but do you really believe that nearly half the males of one race are so bad they need to be locked up?
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:27pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      If they steal and are violent then yes. Jail.What do you suggest. Three verses of kumbaya and a group hug?
      Oh and it’s actually quite hard to get sent to jail. You have to consistantly badly behave. And get caught of course. That sometimes takes awhile.
      
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      November 26, 2016 10:33pm
      - GoVege
        
        I would suggest we take them out of the violent, crime-ridden homes and re-educate them.
        Or better still, stop paying gang members and associates and hopeless parents to breed.
        But that would probably upset the Nats’ mates in the Maori Party, who believe that gang membership is a lifestyle choice.
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:06pm
    - Northland Wahine
      
      Go vege, while I agree that a high percentage of those in prison are Maori, I’d love to see where you got the figure that 50 percent of young maori males go to jail.
      
      By all means, make a valid point, just don’t make up facts.
      
      And where do you suggest putting these young maori kids from violent and criminal homes? Into care? Where’s that care going to come from? Are we talking about boys homes? Junior prisons?
      
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      November 27, 2016 6:57am
Manolo

The Frogs are on edge:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/25/5-arrested-men-were-planning-imminent-attack-on-france.html

Paris prosecutor Francois Molins says that five men arrested recently in two French cities were planning a terror attack in France as early as next week, and that they were receiving their orders from an Islamic State group member based in Iraq or Syria.
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November 26, 2016 8:08am
Chuck Bird

I was a member of National when Don Brash was in charge after doubling the polling from around 20% to 40%. I resigned after Key changed on all of Brash’s good policies.

John Key v Donald Trump – the five similarities

Like Trump, Key has a long history of pragmatism over ideology – dating back to his early days as Opposition leader when he replaced Don Brash.

Key immediately dropped National’s opposition to the Maori seats in Parliament, promised to keep New Zealand nuclear free and pledged to keep Labour’s flagship policy of interest-free student loans.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11754436
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November 26, 2016 8:08am
- Pete George
  
  Some interesting similarities in that.
  
  1. Highly pragmatic – and willing to compromise
  
  Like Trump, Key has a long history of pragmatism over ideology – dating back to his early days as Opposition leader when he replaced Don Brash. For both Key and Trump, it’s all about the art of the deal.
  
  2. Both are independently wealthy
  
  As high net worth individuals, neither Key nor Trump are dependent on politics for income or status. Both have involved a high degree of financial risk and failure, as well as ultimate reward.
  
  3. Neither are career politicians
  
  There is a growing proportion of career politicians, who seem more intent on securing long term lucrative employment than risking rock the political boat. Key and Trump both buck this trend.
  
  4. Strange behaviour is part of their political brand
  
  One of the hallmarks of John Key’s enduring personal popularity has been his anti-politician style. It works for many, and it repels others. He gets it wrong sometimes – ie pony tail pulling and prison jokes, but gets away with it. Trump’s behaviour problems have been more extreme but he has got away with it too, so far.
  
  5. The answer is golf
  
  Trump recently said: “Golf is a great game for getting to know people…you can never ever get to know people at lunch or dinner like you can on a golf course”. Key, like Trump, has recognised the function of golf as an elite pastime to cultivate connections with people who matter – as proven by his success in ultimate success in gaining a tee time with Obama.
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:16am
  - PhilBest
    
    One dis-similarity is that Key comes from “Wall Street”, while Trump’s claims to hate the troughers in big finance might have some substance, given his love-hate relationship with financiers, and potential for scores to be settled against some of them.
    
    The media painted Don Brash as a cats-paw to the one-percenters but ironically he would have done something about house prices, which might be the biggest reality check about where a politician’s real allegiances lie. Yes, yes, it might seem to be about “protecting” the middle class incumbent home owners capital gains already enjoyed, but where might the interests of “big finance” lie in all this?
    
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    November 26, 2016 8:36am
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Gee Pete, cut and paste is working well for you.
    
    Now you don’t even add your own thoughts, just regurgitate shit.
    
    Blog going well?
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:32am
    - Pete George
      
      I posted similar in three forums deliberately without adding my own thoughts to see what reactions there were to what I thought was an interesting article.
      
      Is there a rule here now that you have to post comments in a particular way? Or is your comment just a lazy diss?
      
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      November 26, 2016 3:35pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        Well I hate to think you posted in 3 different forums by accident so I’m relieved it was deliberate.
        
        You can add to reactions across the three sites that at least one commentator doesn’t like cut and paste cowboys, at least Penny adds her own thoughts.
        
        You added absolutely nothing. I assume it’s because once again you actually have nothing of value to say, hence back to KB because the echo chamber was getting lonely.
        
        As for the lazy gibe, I’m not the one with the ctrl z, ctrl v fetish Pete.
        
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        November 26, 2016 4:47pm
      - Pete George
        
        I added more detail to Chuck’s initial comment, and there’s been quite a bit of discussion on it, so I think it’s been a good thread.
        
        You’re the one who’s added nothing apart from some petty pissiness.
        
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        November 26, 2016 5:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        We were discussing the simalarities between Key and Trump months ago…
        
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        November 26, 2016 5:45pm
      - Awww C-mon
        
        3:53 I posted without adding my old thoughts
        
        5:07 I added more detail
        
        The link was there, you just cut and paste with no purpose or benefit to other bloggers, you added nothing to the conversation, nice try though.
        
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        November 26, 2016 6:22pm
- PhilBest
  
  I very much doubt that Trump could be as “pragmatic” as John Key, and get re-elected.
  
  Firstly, Key did not run on anything like as outrageous a program as Trump, and certainly did not take on the whole media and the politically correct establishment head-on. Don Brash’s positions were closer to Trump’s, but Brash was a gentleman. Perhaps it takes an arrogant and self-assertive politician to pull it off – but I don’t think Kiwis take to this like Americans do.
  
  Americans won’t accept being “sold out” to the extent Kiwis have accepted. I can see very little of the same resentment in NZ, for the establishment and its “politically correct positions on everything” from immigration to minority-group preferences to “saving the planet”. Anyone in NZ taking anything like Trump’s positions, is way out in the political wilderness.
  
  Breaking the MSM’s stranglehold on the narrative might be the biggie. We don’t have anything like Breitbart here, and that is just one prominent example of alternative media. The USA has a whole sector of influential alternatives, in fact a whole new movement:
  
  http://veritaslive.com/jo/james-okeefe-main-stream-media-is-now-powerless.html
  
  http://projectveritas.com/
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:30am
- Viking2
  
  There is more Maori in Parliament than any other group.
  
  Sad but true so we whitey’s will just have to suck it up until the Chinese join us. No welfare then.
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:42am
  - Nukuleka
    
    In my electorate of Christchurch East there are 3 MPs representing constituents: Labour electorate MP Poto Williams, List MP Jo Hayes and the MP repesenting the Te Tai Tonga, Rino Tirikatene. All three are…. yes, Maori. Disproportionate?
    
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    November 26, 2016 9:32am
  - GoVege
    
    Aren’t we already paying “welfare” in the form of the pension to hundreds of older Chinese who have never worked here?
    We are probably the only country to be so dumb.
    Apart from that, Chinese are great: small families, strong on education, friendly, hardworking, don’t overeat and crash the health system.
    Everything some people are not in this land….
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:43am
    - kowtow
      
      Are you sure?
      
      Oldie pension based on how rong yew rive in San Seelan, therefore honorable Cerestrials not get velly muchee your monee, unress they rive here rong time , no different to any other ethnic gloup , you lacist plick!
      
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      November 26, 2016 11:31am
- stephieboy
  
  Chuck Bird ,
  
  John Key like most of his predecessors ( especially Sir Keith Holyoke ) has an acute and perceptive understanding of Centre Right and consensus politics .
  
  He Clearly understood that if he followed the dry right politics of Don Brash it would amount to political suicide . It also helps to explain why an ideologically based party like ACT struggles for political relevancy outside its citidel Epsom .
  
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  November 26, 2016 9:00am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Hell, did I just uptick stepieboy?
    He must have said something sensible for once.
    
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    November 26, 2016 9:34am
    - Don the Kiwi
      
      Me too – what’s happening?????
      
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      November 26, 2016 3:36pm
  - PhilBest
    
    And yet – ACT once had 7 seats.
    
    They were wiped out by Don Brash National in 2005.
    
    Brash very nearly became PM.
    
    One would expect the sitting government – Helen Clark’s – at that time, to lose its wafer-thin majority next time as a matter of course. I see it as completely unnecessary for National to have sold out on almost everything and have run NZ like Helen Clark’s 4th, 5th and 6th terms. They would have won in 2008 anyway even on the Brash platform, and by 2011 the country would have been doing even better than it was when Key got re-elected. We might have had a REAL economy of utilisation of resources and production of useful stuff, instead of debt-financed consumer spending on the back of house-price “wealth effect” Ponzi.
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:00am
    - RF
      
      Clark swung 2005 by her famous student loan bribe.
      
      As an aside those bloody teeth of hers annoy me.
      
      I have the urge to straighten them.
      
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      November 26, 2016 5:53pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    I did too. Hey said something rational. Must be a fuckup, someone hacked his comp
    
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    November 26, 2016 4:28pm
    - Flash
      
      I think it’s his Mum. She popped in when he left his comp open.
      
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      November 27, 2016 6:00pm
- Happychappy
  
  Chuck
  Isn’t New Zealand a great country when immigrants can come to our Country and start a new life and enjoy our way of life.Maori were here before you and me and what wrong have they done you, they like you have the right to form a Political Party and get thing put in place for their people. Don Brash is racial and he was not a great Leader and one policy did not win a election. John Key might have promised he would abolish the seats but like most political Leader he has bent the truth and it has not hurt his profile since winning two more elections by joining Maori and finding ways for to bring unity between our race’s. Most Maori are great people but like all race’s there are always those that are not and whether you like John Key or not every” Politician “lies and your bullshit won’t change it.
  
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  November 26, 2016 9:29am
  - PhilBest
    
    But for Pete’s sake, giving “Iwi” the power to extort before any little action of any real use to the economy can be done???
    
    http://www.nzcpr.com/bureaucrats-wallowing-in-cultural-correctness/
    
    Bob Jones says:
    
    “…sit down with a stiff drink and accept my assurance I’m not making this up…”
    
    This is how stupid this stuff is. NZ is overdue for a Trumpian backlash.
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:06am
  - GoVege
    
    Heaps of Maori are great.
    They just need to stop their misplaced loyalty to the idiots among them and tell their loser rellies off.
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:45am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Happychappy, I agree with you that most Maori are fine people. I also agree they they have a right to form their own political party. However, I do not think they are entitled to special racist seats in local or central government.
    
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    November 26, 2016 5:58pm
    - Happychappy
      
      Chuck, did they have these seats before you settled in New Zealand
      
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      November 26, 2016 8:06pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    why should who your great great great great grandparents were have anything to do with present day rights and privileges in a democracy? It is appalling that there legal privileges bestowed and enforced upon kiwis on this basis.
    
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    November 26, 2016 6:34pm
- cmm
  
  ” pragmatism over ideology”
  
  That’s what you learn in The Real World/free market.
  
  The only place you can put ideology over pragmatism is in political science ivory towers in academia and heavily protected workplaces where achievement is not important.
  
  Even Lenin understood this with his New Economic Policy in 1917-22. Russia was too economically screwed for communism to “work” so he allowed some capitalism to build up the economy until it was solid enough for full-blown Communism. Once capitalism got Russia back on its legs he switched back to Communism saying “look how great Communism is”.
  
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  November 26, 2016 9:40am
  - stephieboy
    
    cmm, Lenin did not abolish his NEP . Stalin did so in 1928 and replaced it with his centrally planned command economy which as history shows ( 1991 ) was ultimately a huge failure .
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
    
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    November 26, 2016 9:57am
oldpark

Talk about the dance of the desperate. The USA Democrats, still cant believe the beating they got from the Donald Trump party. Seems with crooked Hillary aboard,and to save face ,when they get another beating on electoral votes recounting in three states. They have sent in one of their associate puppets from the Green Party to call for a recount,at a cost of circa $NZ 5000.Wonder is some of that money from the “Clinton Foundation”,of which one our goody two shoes Government Dept gave around $7,000,000.
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November 26, 2016 8:09am
Paulus

I see it is reported that Hillary will challenge the results in three States – she wus robbed of course – good Socialist.
It was said months ago that New York Lawyers had been retained to do something should she lose – although this in no way was expected at the time.
Will the vote counters visit the local graveyards and check the voting validity of the voters who actually voted ?
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November 26, 2016 8:11am
- Richard
  
  I thought it was the US greens that were challengeing the vote, demand for recount filed, raised around $2 mill to fund? Pointless of course but it should keep a few more lawyers feed and watered.
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:10am
- fernglas
  
  Not Hillary, but the Green party Presidential candidate Jill Stein who is running the recount application.
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:10am
  - Fletch
    
    Yah.
    
    “Not saying this Jill Stein thing is a scam, but if it were a scam, it would probably look a lot like this.”
    – Nate Silver.
    
    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/802200073375510529
    
    If you look at the fine print, she “can’t guarantee” a recount will happen in any of the those states. So, the money will go to some other useful thing. It’s basically a money-making scam.
    
    http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2016/11/25/nate-silver-if-jill-steins-recount-fundraiser-were-a-scam-it-would-probably-look-a-lot-like-this/
    
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    November 26, 2016 11:36am
    - Ross12
      
      All sorts of stuff being reported on this. The Reddit guys reckon they have proved there is a bot working on delivering the funds to Stein’s recount account. Consistently giving US$160,000/hr. If true, it is not hard to imagine who has the central fund from which is coming ( no, I’m not suggesting the Clinton Foundation).
      In Stein’s application they are talking about hacking being behind the initial “false” counts –problem is Michigan has only a paper/scan counting system which is not linked to the internet in any way. Also they do an initial count and then follow it with their own certified recount ( results announced the other day). Similarly apparently Pennsylvania doesn’t have a way that would allow hacking.
      
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      November 26, 2016 2:40pm
      - Fletch
        
        Yeh, and Michigan’s final talley only came through yesterday. I doubt they want to go and do all that again….
        
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        November 26, 2016 2:45pm
DifferentPerspective

Democrats pizza problems continue

Major Democrat fundraiser – whose foundation authored the ‘transgender men in female bathrooms’ bill – arrested for pedophilia.

Timing couldn’t be better as it follows hot on the heels of fake news site NYT trump-eting why there is no problem with pedophilia in the Democrat party and that it was just ‘fake news’.

With Gallup surveys showing that confidence in ~~mass media~~ fake news sites like the NYT at an all time low their ‘official denial’ shows so clearly why no one trusts these lying whores (no offence intended to whores by the comparison – whores are purveyors of a trusted, transparent, time-honoured and valuable social service – unlike the MSM).
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November 26, 2016 8:16am
kowtow

As far as the international MSM is concerned only some black lives matter ie when a cop, preferably white , does the shooting. That’s why this story isn’t leading our news .

“Gunfire erupted near an annual Thanksgiving Day football event in Kentucky, leaving two people dead and five others wounded, Louisville Metro Police said.”

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/24/us/kentucky-football-game-shooting/index.html
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November 26, 2016 8:22am
duggledog

Pete George: Good to see you back here.

‘who seem more intent on securing long term lucrative employment than risking rock the political boat. Key and Trump both buck this trend.’

Yes and no. Key may not be relying on the $ but he sure isn’t risking rocking any political boats. He knows his constituency too well.

It’s this ‘incremental radicalism’ thing. Too incremental for my liking, and many others.
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November 26, 2016 8:23am
Southern Raider

600 fires in Israel caused by arson terrorism

I wonder how many mosques are celebrating this at Saturday morning prayers
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November 26, 2016 8:39am
- Viking2
  
  No doubt a few will burn in the next we while.
  
  Unintended consequences to actions.
  
  Every action has an opposite reaction.
  Funny that.
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:44am
  - Reid
    
    Yes it’s a universal law isn’t it.
    
    It’s strange though how some people hallucinate Israel has a special exemption from it.
    
    Some people seem to think Israel can simply do anything at all to its neighbours and populations living close to it and nothing at all will or should ever happen in retaliation.
    
    Isn’t that peculiar. Yet nevertheless, this is precisely what many seem to think. Isn’t it.
    
    It’s the sort of thinking that could only be induced by decades of propaganda, and one of course observes this sentiment exists only in the Western world so it must be propaganda that’s been confined to there. Whatever could it be. It’s a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma. Isn’t it.
    
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    November 26, 2016 11:57am
EAD

Irish Savant is pleasantly surprised in this weeks article:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/a-pleasant-surprise.html

The report goes on to say that “new systems which are being put in place are making the process of applying for refugee status, and of appealing rejection, harder and harder.” As a consequence “asylum seekers are now believed to be avoiding Ireland”.

And it gets better. “Ireland would also appear to be, statistically, ahead of other EU countries when it comes to deporting illegal aliens. Last year the State deported 3,500 people with the figure for this year expected to increase to around 4,000, about double the 2012 figure for deportations, according to figures supplied to the Dail by Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald.”

I must confess to being extremely surprised – and impressed – by this. By way of explanation I remember Rob McCarthy, a regular reader of this blog, pointing out some time ago that dedicated and patriotic civil servants were countering on the ground much of the damage caused by spineless politicians and traitors like (((Alan Shatter))). It looks like he might be right and could explain why an asylum centre in my town has been gradually emptied over the last few years. Maybe there is hope. However I should add that the correct rejection figure would be 100%. Because anyone fetching up here and claiming asylum must have travelled through other countries to get here. Ipso facto that makes them asylum tourists

He also links to a story which laughs at some SJW’s who are getting flumoxed at the never ending contradictions in the victim hierarchy

I close with a heart-warming story of two groups of ‘vulnerable’ parasites squabbling over taxpayer largess and celebrate the ensuing anguish of the SJWs as they grapple with the vagaries of the Victimhood Hierarchy. A group of Irish travellers/knackers/gypsies protested at the allocation of a public housing unit to a family of Syrian asylum tourists. Interestingly the comments for the article were closed off with an hour of its appearance.
http://www.thejournal.ie/protest-mayo-county-council-3097949-Nov2016/
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November 26, 2016 8:58am
- stephieboy
  
  EAD, for once the word (((Jew))) is not mentioned nor inferred .
  
  Or is it ?
  
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  November 26, 2016 9:03am
  - pentwig
    
    Fuckwit daffy.
    It wasn’t until you tried to stir the pot.
    Troll.
    
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    November 26, 2016 12:20pm
SPC

President Erdogan has once again threatened to flood the EU with refugees if they do not accept his emerging dictatorship and abide by the deal to give Turkey aid and visa free access to the EU.

Why did Merkel (it was her doing) make this deal? They could and should inform refugees if they arrived in Greece they would be held there and only get tents and food so they would be better off staying where they were in Turkey.

But there is an opportunity for the UK, if the EU is that weak under threats. So when the EU says no access to the common market if the UK leaves the EU (the way the EU bullies other nations of Europe to become members or be excluded from the free trade zone) unless they allow free movement of EU labour into the UK – then the UK should say: then we withdraw from NATO. Why defend people who deny you free trade?

The East Europeans would soon realise the EU without the UK offered little for their defence and this would make Trump an even more unreliable ally vs Russia and so they were screwed. So they would ask for the EU to back down (while they would stay in the EU if the UK left NATO, they might also then leave to placate Russia and acknowledge that NATO’s reach stopped at the German border).
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November 26, 2016 9:42am
stephieboy

Norman Fowler ( now Lord Fowler ) was Secretary of State for Health and Social Services under Margret Thatcher . His big claim to fame was identifying very early in 1986 the huge risk the AIDS virus posed if it got into and infected the main population . Everyone was at risk .

This led him and his advisers to initiate a vast publicity and preventive health campaign . It featured for the first time explicit sexual language to get the message across about the dangers the virus posed to the general public. “ Don’t Die of Ignorance “ became its famous catch cry . The public education campaign raised the ire and opposition of his Prime Minister and others with more traditional views .However he persisted and it subsequently paid off .It was the first such campaign ,world wide . It was highly successful and Britain achieved one of the lowest rates of infections in the developed world .It became model for other nations to follow .

A great listen from the BBC Witness series .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p044pwdf
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November 26, 2016 9:45am
- Inandout
  
  What are they worrying about stephie, Islam can cure AIDS in 24 hours.
  
  https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/ghana-muslim-cleric-says-hivaids-can-be-cured-in-24-hours-and-cars-powered-with-air-using-information-from-quran
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:18am
  - stephieboy
    
    Inandout , and famous Climate Denier Lord Christopher Monkton also claims to have a cure for AIDS,
    
    https://bbickmore.wordpress.com/lord-moncktons-rap-sheet/
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:56am
  - holysheet
    
    It’s called hot air. These fuckwits spout enough of it to power the whole world. If only there was some way of filtering out the shit and harnessing what’s left.
    
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    November 26, 2016 11:39am
Richard

I keep hearing the bogus arguement from the Left MSM that since we’ve had another quake tax cuts targeted at the lower paid are irresponsible and should be abandoned.
I take a different view: Tax cuts next year for the lowest paid should come before pay rises in the state sector. If someone really has to make a sacifice post quake it shouldn’t be the lowest paid, it should be those in secure, well paid, govt jobs first. After all why did they join the public service? Just to get a nice comfy job, with regular pay rises and benefits? Surely not!?
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November 26, 2016 10:05am
- mikenmild
  
  So no pay rises for nurses, police and firefighters because you think tax cuts are a priority?
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:13am
  - Southern Raider
    
    I doubt when people refer to the public service they include useful roles like nurses and emergency services in that grouping.
    
    I think you will find we are referencing the useless staff domiciled in wellington central
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:26am
    - wiseowl
      
      SR
      Our own swamp.
      
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      November 26, 2016 10:55am
    - stephieboy
      
      Souther Raider , like ” useless “geo scientists, seismologists and engineers , Meteorologists Court officials , Treasury economists , Labour and Industrial safety inspectors . Civil Aviation and Transport safety etc, etc ?
      
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      November 26, 2016 11:01am
      - Awww C-mon
        
        No desk jockeys who smash out 26000 comments on KB… we all know aye ?
        
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        November 26, 2016 11:05am
- oldpark
  
  Seems up to $45,000 ,when all is washed up ,WFF etc,etc, the lower paid dont pay any tax.
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:15am
- stephieboy
  
  Aww. cmon, yer mate Manolo is close behind by a nose !
  
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  November 26, 2016 11:52am
  - Don the Kiwi
    
    stephie
    Using “close nose” and “behind”
    are not appropriate to use in such proximity. 😉
    
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    November 26, 2016 3:45pm
Southern Raider

Can the Arab terrorists who have set Israel on fire be charged with treason and executed as such?

The NZ media channels seem to be ignoring these devastating fires, but they are on a massive scale and due to the small size of Israel significantly worse than any wild fires in the US or Australia, plus factoring in they have been deliberately lit and across the Middle East Muslims are celebrating this should be a front page story
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November 26, 2016 10:25am
- Manolo
  
  Twelve criminals already in custody. Suspected to be Lutherans:
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38102469
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:29am
- SPC
  
  4 of the 12 at least have been released and cleared of any charge.
  
  The initial fires were a result of drought and strong winds. There was a larger fire at Mount Carmel some years ago as a result of this.
  
  Some, such as one of homes near Jerusalem were more likely arson – and only after certain politicians said that starting fires was terrorism.
  
  That was hard for some, especially for those in annexed Jerusalem to take – as Jews have been burning down Arab olive groves in the West Bank before building settlements in the occupied territories.
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:41am
- stephieboy
  
  Southern Raider,
  
  well covered by MSM TVNZ One ,
  
  https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/those-responsible-punished-severely-tens-thousands-evacuated-in-israel-fires-rage
  
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  November 26, 2016 11:04am
- Gabby
  
  If they turn out to be fundy settlers you’ll still be keen to put them down, right?
  
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  November 26, 2016 12:10pm
Manolo

All guns blazing against Trump, says CNN:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tensions-rise-at-cnn-as-it-aims-for-trump/article/2608144
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November 26, 2016 10:40am
Manolo

They are asking for the almost mummified heads of these ancient politicians:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/for-democrats-to-recover-nancy-pelosi-must-go/2016/11/25/ec1c8944-b31f-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html?utm_term=.57e91e33252b

Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, will be 77 next year.

Steny Hoyer, her deputy, will be 78. Jim Clyburn, the No. 3 Democratic leader, will be 77.

Their current ages, if combined, would date back to 1787, the year George Washington presided over the signing of the Constitution.

It is time for them to go.
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November 26, 2016 10:55am
- mikenmild
  
  Donald Trump, aged 70, not too old?
  
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  November 26, 2016 10:58am
  - Manolo
    
    Fortunately, history is written by the winners. ?
    
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    November 26, 2016 11:01am
    - stephieboy
      
      Manolo, like Obama in 2008 and 2012 ?
      
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      November 26, 2016 11:06am
- Fletch
  
  In some respect, it’s not how old they are, but how long they have been warming the same seat. It will be good if Trump does limit congressional terms.
  
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  November 26, 2016 11:27am
  - stephieboy
    
    Fletch, so voters should have no say as to they may wish to represent them in Congressional districts ?
    
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    November 26, 2016 12:13pm
    - Fletch
      
      Well, they still have a say in who is president, and that changes at least every 8 years.
      
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      November 26, 2016 12:51pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Fletch , but there is no restrictions with terms like MPs here . Let the voter decide and not Trump
        
        The Republicans restricted the President to two terms to stop an FDR standing and winning again and again as a result of an out of touch GOP.
        
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        November 26, 2016 1:40pm
artemisia

Wayne Brown has a go at Wellington woodenheads and their loopy rules. Worth a read, and not behind the NBR paywall.

https://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/bouquet-and-four-brickbats-wellingtons-bureaucrats
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November 26, 2016 11:32am
waikatogirl

Long term swamp dwellers ?
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November 26, 2016 11:33am
- stephieboy
  
  “Donald Trump wants to ‘drain the swamp’. So why is he letting lobbyists appoint his government? ”
  
  “..Yet it is starting to look as if corporate America has less to fear from a Trump administration than one might have expected from his rhetoric on the campaign trail. There is every sign that his team will be pretty similar to previous Republican administrations despite his promises to offer something different…
  
  …Overall it looks as if Donald Trump, despite lambasting the Republican establishment for months, will be singing from the same hymn sheet when he takes office in January. Having railed against special interests and lobbyists as a candidate, he seems rather more accommodating as a president-elect…
  
  ..The president elect promised to clean up Washington and, as he put it “drain the swamp”. Within a week of the election it is already looking as if the swamp monsters are set to thrive under a Trump administration. ”
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/15/donald-trump-wants-to-drain-the-swamp-so-why-is-he-letting-lobby/
  
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  November 26, 2016 11:48am
Gabby

He’s draining the swamp to get at the kauri ‘tabletops’.
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November 26, 2016 12:12pm
wiseowl

Have to say I am feeling liberated, free, at ease.

Watched VOITV this morning and came over all caring and sharing.
Heads a bit sore though.

Watch out, Face TV is giving them the ability to ‘teach’ more kiwis.
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November 26, 2016 12:34pm
Fletch

Here’s a thought…

China has all these “ghost cities” with no one living in them. We also have all these migrants with nowhere to go. Hmmm, is there a solution somewhere?

http://www.dw.com/en/what-has-become-of-chinas-ghost-cities/a-36525007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPILhiTJv7E
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November 26, 2016 1:30pm
- stephieboy
  
  Fletch, why not make your own personal representations to President Xi Jinping ?
  
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  November 26, 2016 1:33pm
  - Fletch
    
    Maybe Trump could broker it. Take so many migrants in exchange for keeping the Apple manufacturing business in China.
    
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    November 26, 2016 2:24pm
- Reid
  
  They’re for the Japanese when they have to evacuate Tokyo and surrounding areas because of Fukushima, Fletch.
  
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  November 26, 2016 1:50pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Still waiting for the end of the world?
    
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    November 26, 2016 2:27pm
    - Reid
      
      mm you don’t just build whole cities that no-one lives in for no reason. Sometimes the odd big development fails for that reason, but never entire cities. But this really did happen, many times.
      
      So why are they there.
      
      Fukushima was deliberate, BTW. You need an open mind to understand why, that’s why you don’t think it was because you think it couldn’t have been therefore it wasn’t, without even looking into the question (with an open mind). But you haven’t done that, have you. And even if you tried, your closed mind will prevent you from assimilating the material, because you have to know a lot of stuff about other things before you can seriously assess it, all of which material requires an open mind.
      
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      November 26, 2016 2:34pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Reid, Fukushima deliberate ?
        
        A quake machine ?
        
        Intriguing !
        
        Evidence ?
        
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        November 26, 2016 3:16pm
      - Reid
        
        Who said anything about a quake machine, you moron?
        
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        November 26, 2016 3:43pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Moron calls moron a moron.
        
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        November 26, 2016 4:08pm
Manolo

Another victory for the progressive Left:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/world/americas/hungry-venezuelans-flee-in-boats-to-escape-economic-collapse.html

Well over 150,000 Venezuelans have fled the country in the last year alone, the highest in more than a decade, according to scholars studying the exodus.
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November 26, 2016 2:08pm
Manolo

Merkel brought this uncivilised mob to German soil:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3970740/Female-refugees-seeking-asylum-asylum-centres-Migrants-forced-seek-sanctuary-male-attackers-homes-domestic-violence-victims-Germany.html

Increasing numbers of female refugees are abandoning their accommodation centres in Germany to seek sanctuary in homes for domestic violence victims.

The distressing news about the plight of female refugees in Germany comes as the world marks the UN’s ‘International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women’.

In and around Stuttgart alone there were 105 rapes, assaults and robberies of women and 77 against children in the refugee centres last year, but the local government admits that the number of unreported cases is ‘significantly larger.’
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November 26, 2016 2:20pm
- Inandout
  
  Yet Muekel is still popular..unbelievable.
  
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  November 26, 2016 3:33pm
  - Reid
    
    No, the media say she’s popular. Not the same thing.
    
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    November 26, 2016 3:53pm
Manolo

The lying Greens know full well how to exploit the many gullible around the world:

Stein’s campaign has been raising money online to cover the costs of recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

She says she wants to make sure hackers didn’t skew the results in those swing states. The campaign had raised about $5.2 million as of Friday afternoon.
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November 26, 2016 2:29pm
- RF
  
  More bullshit from the water melons who are out to cause as much trouble they can for decent living people. I see they are hated in the US as much as they are hated here in NZ.
  
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  November 26, 2016 7:04pm
Reid

This is a great site:

http://ozmat.org
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November 26, 2016 2:40pm
- stephieboy
  
  Why ?
  
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  November 26, 2016 3:33pm
Reid

I saw mm make a passing reference to the Admiral Kuznetsov and as usual he was wrong.

Did you know that the Russian don’t even call the Admiral Kuznetsov an aircraft carrier. The official designation of the Kuznetsov is “Heavy Aircraft-Carrying Cruiser”. It is important to understand why.

What is, in your opinion, an aircraft carrier? Or, let me put it this way, why does the United States maintain a force of 10-12 heavy aircraft carriers? If you believe Ronald Reagan, it is to “forward deploy” and bring the war to the Soviets (that was, then, the rationale for a 600 ship navy and US carriers in the northern Atlantic). Nothing could be further from the truth. The reality is that US, British, French aircraft carriers are a colonial rule enforcement tool. You park one or two aircraft carrier battle groups a few hundred miles from a disobedient country, and you bomb the shit out of it until it rolls over. That is, in reality, the only rationale for these immense structures. And the beauty of it is that you can threaten most of the planet and that you do not depend on allies agreeing to your mission. So, we can say that US and other western aircraft carriers are a long range power projection capability to be used against weak and poorly defended countries.

Why weak and poorly defended only?

Here is the ugly secret that everybody knows: aircraft carriers cannot be defended against a sophisticated enemy. Had the Cold War turned hot, the Soviets would have simultaneously attacked any US carrier in the north Atlantic with a combo of

Air launched cruise missiles
Submarine launched cruise missiles
Surface ship launched cruise missiles
Submarine launcher torpedoes

I cannot prove the following, but I can just testify that I had plenty of friends in the US military, including some who served on US aircraft carriers, and they all understood that US carriers would never survive a Soviet saturation attack and that in case of a real war they would have been kept away from the Soviet shores. I will only add here that the Chinese apparently have developed specialized ballistic missiles designed to destroy carrier battle groups. That was then, in the early 1990s. Nowadays even countries like Iran are beginning to develop capabilities to engage and successfully destroy US carriers.

http://thesaker.is/making-sense-of-the-russian-naval-task-force-off-the-coast-of-syria/

But mm was talking about the engines. He should read this:

http://theduran.com/russia-deploys-kuznetsov-aircraft-carrier-to-defend-syrian-coast/
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November 26, 2016 3:15pm
- stephieboy
  
  Irrespective of the military efficacy or otherwise of aircraft carriers ( 19 vs 1 ) the US has the overwhelming back up and superiority with its Nuclear Triad – Ohio Class Trident Submarines , B1 and 52 Bombers and ICBMs.
  
  http://www.defensenews.com/articles/carter-nuclear-triad-bedrock-of-our-security
  
  Russia has no show !
  
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  November 26, 2016 3:21pm
  - Reid
    
    Neither does the US, Europe or the UK under a MAD scenario dummy. So what? What point are you making? Or did you hallucinate pointing out the obvious would add value to the discussion? If so, care to explain how?
    
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    November 26, 2016 3:33pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Russia now has the hypersonic missile. 7kms per second.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3948902/Vladimir-Putin-launches-4-000mph-supersonic-missile-reach-UK-13-MINUTES.html
      
      Not sure the Patriot system on land or the Phalanx system on ships can stop something that fast.
      
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      November 26, 2016 5:55pm
      - Reid
        
        Their anti-ship and other missiles have some key capabilities. One of them as you say is speed. Another is extreme terminal manoeuvring capability and another is networking so the entire salvo can all talk to each other providing for instance the capability for one to rise into the target’s radar horizon and take target position fixes and pass them while the others stay below it close to sea level.
        
        Russians are also extremely advanced electronically meaning they almost certainly have excellent electronic decoy, jamming and cloaking devices on board those things too.
        
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        November 26, 2016 6:23pm
Reid

The march to GLEXIT – Globalization Exit

The world, through the ballot box, is speaking out. From the British «Yes» vote on BREXIT – the United Kingdom’s exit from the European Union – to the election of the anti-globalization Donald Trump as president of the United States, the world is speaking out against the homogenization of the world into a super-state of blurred and overlapping governments, cultural identities, religions, and politics. The U.S. presidential election was not so much an election as it was a referendum on globalization in all of its malignant manifestations: free trade, open borders, and subjugation of national sovereignty to amorphous international organizations.

From every continent, there is growing popular support for «exiting» international contrivances, from the European Union and International Criminal Court to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and even the United Nations.

In August of this year, President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines threatened to pull his country out of the UN in what was the first such threat by a UN member-state since Indonesian President Sukarno successfully withdrew his nation from the UN in 1965.

Proponents of economic and political globalization have not only been dealt heavy blows in the election of Trump in the United States and the success of the BREXIT vote in the United Kingdom, but also in the decision by South Africa and other African nations to withdraw from the International Criminal Court in The Hague…

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/11/25/march-glexit-globalization-exit.html

About f…ing time.
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Reid

If US Can’t or Won’t Fight Terrorists, They Should ‘Stop Getting in the Way’

The Russian Defense Ministry commented on the US State Department’s calls not to help tankers shipping fuel to the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.

If Washington cannot or does not want to fight terrorists, it should not get in the way, the ministry’s spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Thursday.

US State Department’s spokesman Mark Toner urged other countries not to provide support for Russian tankers shipping fuel to the Russian aviation group in Syria.

“Such statements, unfortunately, only confirm our earlier estimates that fighting terrorism in Syria has never been on the outgoing administration’s agenda,” Konashenkov said.

Washington had impeded negotiations, did not separate terrorists and opposition and now openly called on other countries to hamper Moscow’s anti-terrorism fight in Syria “to somehow downplay the failures of US policies in the country since 2014”, the spokesman said.

Konashenkov said that the US-led coalition can only dream of a success comparable to the one Russia has achieved for a year: over 2,000 settlements have joined ceasefire, 86 armed groups have stopped fighting and hundreds of thousands of Syrians have returned to peaceful life to rebuild the country.

“So if you cannot or do not want to fight Daesh and al-Nusra Front — do not get in the way, at least. Our air group is Syria is sufficiently equipped to fight international terrorism in this region,” he said…

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201611241047796768-russia-us-syria-terrorism/
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- RF
  
  It’s interesting watching RT, Russia Today. They give a different perspective to CNN and clearly demonstrate someone is not telling the truth about getting rid of the terrorists.
  
  Recently a shipment of arms that the US had sold to their Saudi friends was captured from ISIS. The boxes of handheld missiles had serial numbers that were traced back to the US. Trump was correct.
  
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  November 26, 2016 6:54pm
  - Reid
    
    Which is why the MSM is now creating the “fake news” meme RF.
    
    To inoculate the sheeple’s minds against the very thought you just expressed.
    
    They’re too little, too late I sense.
    
    I hope I’m right but I suspect I’m not.
    
    Sadly.
    
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    November 26, 2016 7:26pm
    - RF
      
      Reid.
      
      Yes…. I suspect you are correct. The crap that MSM spewed out about Trump was an eye opener.
      
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      November 26, 2016 10:06pm
BeeSting

Question ?
Here is a test of general Knowledge and awareness

What did the last preventative raid in Melbourne
that we know of stop?

What event was it targeting?

Who and What? were the intended victims?

What cause or charity were they raising money for?

Who ever is in charge of o z security is good
they have done untold preventative raids and arrests but this one stands out?
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November 26, 2016 5:45pm
- Reid
  
  What’s the answers?
  
  I’ll advance you an uptick on the basis I’m curious.
  
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  November 26, 2016 6:32pm
Reid

Griff, stephie and mm will be devastated. Again.

Scott and Shackleton logbooks prove Antarctic sea ice is not shrinking 100 years after expeditions.

Sorry Griff, I’m only the messenger.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/11/24/scott-shackleton-logbooks-prove-antarctic-sea-ice-not-shrinking/

How long does the hammer have to hit before it finally sinks in that AGW is a windmill?

Sure.

It’s a super-elaborate windmill with all the bells and whistles even fireworks as well, with millions of bit-players some in white coats all scurrying round constructing the set, billions of other slack-jawed yokels swallowing it whole just so you guys won’t feel lonely, elaborate worldwide “consensus” reported from our oh-so “reliable” global media, etc, etc, etc.

But even so, those of us who are adults sitting in this Alice in Wonderland school-like production already know the wizard behind the screen is merely a powerless wizened old man.

So we’re not going to be surprised at all when the curtain is pulled away and all the children murmur in amazement as what we knew all along is finally revealed.
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November 26, 2016 5:53pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Fidel Castro dead, aged 90.
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November 26, 2016 6:46pm
- Reid
  
  R.I.P.
  
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  November 26, 2016 6:53pm
  - nasska
    
    About the only time I wish I was religious is when a murdering arsehole like Castro dies.
    
    I know he’s just dead……not burning in a make believe Hell as he deserves!
    
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    November 26, 2016 7:01pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Fidel dead! Fuck that evil piece of shit, appalling that a mass-murdering bastard like that should never be punished and be allowed to die peacefully (like most of evil mass murdering communist arseholes of 20th Century).
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November 26, 2016 6:46pm
- Reid
  
  Was he really like that or did they just portray him like that?
  
  I don’t know the answer but one thing I do know is that genuinely murderously ruthless thugs always get attached to that label lifelong. Amongst the crop include Amin, Mugabe, Taylor (from Rwanda), Burmese generals, the list is long. But he’s not been on it. The US pretended he was on it during the 60’s-mid-80’s period but since then not really. And people know. If it’s true as it is in all the aforementioned, they know. But with Castro, in my reading, public sentiment is he’s ok, he’s not in that club.
  
  But I’ve never researched him, I could be wrong.
  
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  November 26, 2016 7:03pm
Left Right and Centre

hmmm – it’s a poly woman parked in disable space.
They should be called poly spaces.
We have a chat and I call her a really dumb bad attitude poly.
I wish.
We had a chat after I gave her dirty looks.
In the shop nek minute –
Mmhmm – she’s a bit of a whopper – and her primary age poly boy – sheeit – damn – he had a full on space hopper belly – Homer Simpson styles. Child abuse too.

I’m celebrating diversity like that all the time.
Here’s your demographic stat – what percentage of NZ do the polys make up . . . . by *biomass*
Is it . . . . . 25% ?

Redneck disclaimer – I also saw massive space sucking white mother and daughter tubby twins. Their faces were closing in on themselves, yeah ? If I grab my face with my hand and squash it up – yeah. They didn’t need a hand though.
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November 26, 2016 7:12pm
- nasska
  
  They generally are disabled……usually by mountains of blubber which makes waddling from the disabled car park to the chilled cabinets containing mutton flaps & pails of ‘povi masima’ a test of endurance. No wonder they favour the ‘drive through’ at KFC.
  
  Ever notice how Islanders walk? It’s a matter of thrusting one leg past the overhanging belly flap then a pivot of the lower back on the pelvis to give the other leg the same movement.
  
  The only other place I’ve seen it done is penguin colonies! 🙂
  
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  November 26, 2016 7:24pm
  - mikenmild
    
    Fat people are disgusting. Unfortunately we can’t tell on the internet who the horrible fat bastards are on Kiwiblog.
    
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    November 26, 2016 7:36pm
    - holysheet
      
      We now know nasska and LFRC definately are not.
      
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      November 26, 2016 7:41pm
      - Left Right and Centre
        
        left front right centre ?
        Sounds like a dodgy wof inspection – hahahaha
        
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        November 26, 2016 8:48pm
    - nasska
      
      Feel free to put up a notarised recent photo Mike plus a BMI certificate from a registered medical practitioner.
      
      Let your peers of the blogaratti decide. 🙂
      
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      November 26, 2016 7:42pm
      - stigie
        
        It’s ok Milky, just from the shoulders down would suffice !~
        
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        November 26, 2016 8:19pm
      - mikenmild
        
        Since you asked:
        http://aaronashea.tumblr.com/post/127482150657
        
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        November 26, 2016 8:25pm
  - GoVege
    
    But if you ever have an accident in the big city, you will be glad to see some Polynesians, fat or not, because they are the only people who will probably stop to help you.
    
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    November 26, 2016 10:33pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Evidence?
      
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      November 26, 2016 10:36pm
- Awww C-mon
  
  Fat is a choice, or a serious of choices.
  
  The majority of those who need disability parking don’t have a choice.
  
  Besides it would help the human hippo’s to walk another 50m.
  
  Good work LRC
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:05pm
BeeSting

and in case anyone was un informed and unaware

In recognition and appreciation of everything the good people of melbourne have done for all cultures
they were going to show their particular gratitude by….

Wait for it
And the Answer was

Pipe b o m bing
A womans fun run to raise funds for breast cancer?

that is right they were going to target “mums” running for “fun” ???

Boston Marathon Style

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/teen-charged-in-connection-with-alleged-terror-bomb-plot-in-melbourne/news-story/5b4f028b34c024ec891687f59c11c256

and the next million billion trillion dollar question is
????

Let’s see if you can guess
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November 26, 2016 8:00pm
- Reid
  
  Do we have to?
  
  Why can’t you just tell us?
  
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  November 26, 2016 8:09pm
- BeeSting
  
  No
  
  Let’s listen to some real Music
  
  Black Raven – Cossack Song
  
  https://youtu.be/5g0rUiZ_FFU
  
  The Word Cossack come from the Turkish
  for
  
  “Free Man”
  
  Apart from Protecting the Borders of Holy Russia
  they invented the re moveable bee frame that made commercial bee keeping possible
  
  Sung as a Hym
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0wIfloHu14
  
  Some Beautiful Sword Art
  https://youtu.be/AN3uhImuy6E
  
  Some more Beautiful Sword Art
  
  https://youtu.be/2nCT93kiaxw
  
  Don’t you just love European Culture so much
  of it so practical and beautiful
  
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  November 26, 2016 9:56pm
  - Reid
    
    No
    
    I’m sulking.
    
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    November 26, 2016 9:58pm
Left Right and Centre

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/86866158/Victoria-University-fraudster-spent-almost-500-000-on-a-house-car-retail-and-beauty

The irony – At Vic fraud detection, financial controls, safeguards, prevention were lectures during ACCY225. Those who can’t teach – oy, cheeky.
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November 26, 2016 8:39pm
Left Right and Centre

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/86904317/Texan-Yoga-instructor-kills-two-burglars-in-Chile

There’s your three strikes justice – 1,2,3 – dead and dead, all three at once – there you go, thanks for playing. NEXT !! They won’t be pinching any prison guard bottys – eat lead mofos. Nothing sexier than a chick with a gun taking care of business.
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November 26, 2016 8:44pm
Jack5

The Maori activists who have poked their nose into the Dakota pipeline dispute may soon come up against the US Army.

The second link below is to a local news source that gives the opposite view to those who are trying to paint the North Dakota police as heavy-handed.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/26/us-army-orders-eviction-of-dakota-protesters-camp-tribe-says

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/opinion/other-view/4153534-other-view-pipeline-dispute-north-dakota-refuses-play-victimizer-role
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November 26, 2016 9:06pm
nasska

A priest was taking a shortcut through an alley one day and came upon a young boy who was masturbating. “My son, you shouldn’t be doing that,” said the priest. “You should be
saving that for when you get married.”

The embarrassed boy hung his head down low and simply said, “Yes, Father.”

About 10 years later, the priest was in his study when a young man in his early twenties came in.

“Yes, my son?” said the priest.

“Father, you may not remember me, but about 10 years ago you caught me masturbating in an alley, and I’ll never forget the advice you gave then.”

“And what was that, my son?”

“Well, you told me that what I was doing was wrong and I should be saving it for when I get married,” said the young man.

“That sounds like something I probably would have said,” said the priest. “Did you take my advice?”

“Yes I did, Father, but there’s only one problem.”

“What’s that, my son?”

“Well, I have a 44-gallon drum of the stuff in the
back of my ute. Now that I want to get married,
where do you want it?”
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November 26, 2016 9:07pm
BeeSting

Ok Reid you do not have to be

Nostro Farken Damus to figure it out

the no hopers in Melbourne have their orders

they attempted to behead a cop – and got shot in the head – strange that it really upset them

they attempted an incident on Anzac Day that got thwarted

Then the mums fun run shennigans was stopped

Then a heap decided they were going to go to
Syria on a christian beheading and rape and pillage holiday and now they are in prison
awaiting an expensive and prolonged trial

I expect they are getting a bit frustrated
and the scum who fund these scum from overseas
will be asking for their moneys worth?

So my prediction and I hope I am wrong
is they are planning on giving Melbourne A christmas present may be they will try a kinder

I mean lets face it raping people in Wheel Chairs
has already been done in Sweden?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/islamic-state-release-propaganda-video-showing-melbourne-landmarks/news-story/ae896399fd878c0b250f7a3005a488ac

Looks strongly like they are going for the Air port
or Anglican Cathedral maybe carols in the park who knows? these farkwits and their supporters
are capable of anything?

if oz security do not have squads on stand by there
they are not doing their jobs

What ever goes down I expect everyone
will blame

Donald Trump

80-100 we know of have gone from melbourne to syria – many are not returning

They have an organised cell in the City and State
security forces chase them and shadow them very well – so far

one thing I do pray is that they are onto it

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-04/army-black-hawk-helicopters-conduct-training-over-melbourne/7995052

They have not been doing this in the city on a whim they have intell?

I hope they get the info they need to prevent it
and if not they have a fully briefed and skilled team so we do not have an embarrassing

Sydney style farken debacle

Commandos or SAS not PC plod is what is required on permanent stand by so they can
move in minutes or seconds

Some reading

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/no-change-to-threat-level-despite-islamic-state-threats-against-mcg-brunswick-and-broadmeadows-20160906-gra2rh.html
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