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August 12, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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EAD

You’d have to be a moron to believe that the towers “collapsed” from a plane impact. Just look at the video of the explosions with your eyes and not your (brainwashed) mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3lq7nr6098

Cheney and Tenet and the generals are all complicit. And so are all the assholes who know 9/11 was a huge power grab. The bigger the lie the more people will believe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

and if you actually give a shit about this…

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36585.htm

So many people (not just on here) are so fucking stupid and scared to see what is right in front of them.
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August 12, 2015 8:04pm
wellygirl

“I just voted in an online poll that the boys that want to park their cars on an empty lot owned by the school and right next to the school, should be allowed to do so. Amazingly enough, 72% of online voters disagreed with me. I was so blown away by the orneriness of respondents that I wrote a post about it. ”

This is from the post you wrote:

‘By the time boys are year 13, they need to be treated more like adults than children…’

Being an adult means not having everything you want, many workplaces (you know, where adults work) have vacant lots which their employees are unable to park in. Many adults have to park miles from their workplaces and walk to work, many adults get public transport to work, most adults don’t run to the media when they don’t get what they want, and most adults don’t think that because they spent 4 years taking a bus that they are entitled to drive and therefore park on land just because their employer owns it.

You say that they should be entitled to park on the grounds like they are kids who need to have everything handed to them, but quote a book saying that at year 13 boys should be treated like adults, well in my view they are being treated like adults – they are being told to take responsibility for their own transport, something all adults have to do, and they are being told that just because there is some vacant land owned by the school that doesn’t mean they have the right to use it for what they want, just as an adult would not be expected to use vacant land for whatever they want.
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August 12, 2015 8:05pm
stephieboy

EAD, what is right in front of us ? A handful of perceived anomalies such as the security cameras at Dulles Airport with out a time stamp ?

Well just where are those hijackers captured on the cameras right now ? They must of turned up some where alive and their families exposing the alleged conspiracy / sham . Now there is a real anomaly that really requires answers from Massimo Mazzuccoa and Ray Griffen and you etc ?
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August 12, 2015 8:11pm
Reid

Note the highly distinctive boom, boom ,crack , crack , crack boom etc .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2A8VMg_B64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpcJyn3N5ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjmktbt-F_Q

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August 12, 2015 8:11pm
mikenmild

9/11. I can’t make up my mind whether it was a controlled demolition, mini nukes, a particle beam from space, or two hijacked airliners flying into the buildings.
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August 12, 2015 8:14pm
UglyTruth

What a controlled demolition really looks like ,

Looked just like WTC7 except for the light flashes.

Note the highly distinctive boom, boom ,crack , crack , crack boom etc .

Same as for WTC7, but not so loud on the reporters microphone.

Especially note the distinctive explosions at the base of the tower comspicuously missing from WTC 1, 2 and 7

They were not missing, you can hear the WTC7 explosions in my 7:35 video.

Also witnesses reported explosions before the twin towers collapsed.

http://911review.com/coverup/oralhistories.html
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August 12, 2015 8:17pm
Reid

Reid

Genuine question. A gas axe is a pretty efficient tool for cutting steel. Normally you have an oxygen feed with acetylene mixed close to the tip although LPG works well too.

My guess is that the steel core of the Towers would have been close to the lift shafts of the building. When the plane hit there was no shortage of fuel (kero), an initial heat source from the burning plane & an incredible air flow up the lift shafts.

The impact could have created a tool that did most of the damage. Your thoughts?

nasska, kerosene (jet fuel) plus office furniture, computers etc; cannot burn hot enough to melt steel or even come close. It’s about 700 degrees from it. That’s a hell of a difference. As a farmer you’ll appreciate how much that is.

So how was that overcome?

The official story says: it was magic. In other words, the official story says: it just did. Period. End of story. So there. Never mind. Move on. Nothing to see.

Seriously.

That’s precisely what the official story said.

So.

If you believe the official story, you’re a [fill in the blank]?

That’s my considered response.

If you want to know the details, from engineers, there’s hundreds in fact thousands, of quality resources out there to help you. I don’t even need to give you a site. You can find it yourself.

If you simply can’t bring yourself to believe those facts because in your mind the world could not possibly work like that and cover it up, then by all means continue your fantasy, and the best of British to you, in the years to come, as the world continues to wreck havoc upon you, your finances and your children’s and grandchildren’s futures.
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August 12, 2015 8:19pm
UglyTruth

So many people (not just on here) are so fucking stupid and scared to see what is right in front of them.

People of the lie. They can’t cope with what it all implies.
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August 12, 2015 8:21pm
stephieboy

Reid, the fire fighters did not describe that distinctive boom, boom, crack, crack etc associate with controlled demolition . The so ccalled explssions would of derived from the initial impacts of 11 and 175 and explosions followed by subsequent deep rumbles , explosions of the buildings beginning to sag and collapse .

The firefighters at WYC were in an unparalleled event with lots of different things happening and it’s a really stretching things to say that they were actually confirming it as an real controlled demolition . But Truthers would loved to cherrypick and quote mine i otherwise.

Ugly Truth , who is actually afraid / scared ??? the deluded like you.

Where are the witness / whistleblowers who e.g saw charges been laid ?
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August 12, 2015 8:23pm
UglyTruth

Ugly Truth , who is actually afraid / scared ??? the deluded like you.

See what I mean? An apologist for the conspiracy. Rot in hell, liar.

Where are the witness / whistleblowers who e.g saw charges been laid ?

What an utterly moronic question.
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August 12, 2015 8:28pm
Reid

Reid, the fire fighters did not describe that distinctive boom, boom, crack, crack etc associate with controlled demolition .

Yes they did and there are lots more clips, you just have to look for them, I’m not going to feed you like a baby. You need to grow up sillyboy and get your own info, it’s out there, but you have to want to read it, not reject it because it doesn’t suit your preconceptions.

The so ccalled explssions would of derived from the initial impacts of 11 and 175 and explosions followed by subsequent deep rumbles , explosions of the buildings beginning to sag and collapse .

Have you googled seismic date for that sillyboy? Or have you just simply assumed that whatever the official story said must be true and everything else was lies?

The firefighters at WYC were in an unparalleled event with lots of different things happening and it’s a really stretching things to say that they were actually confirming it as an real controlled demolition .

This is why there’s thousands of websites on the topic with millions of pages of evidence, both including and in addition to, the firefighter testimony. Why would you hallucinate the only evidence available was firefighter testimony? Do I need to upgrade you from sillyboy to idiotboy?

Where are the witness / whistleblowers who e.g saw charges been laid ?

They’re not there is you don’t look for them, but as soon as you do, there they are, in their thousands.

Isn’t that interesting.
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August 12, 2015 8:33pm
Left Right and Centre

It keeps me off the streets LR&C.

I almost dropped the book when Trisha is talking fencing and says she’s **48kg**. Looking at photos of two young boys and you realise – um – they must be 25-30 now – it’s an older book.
That’s the crap I think about instead of actually learning anything – hahaha
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August 12, 2015 8:34pm
mikenmild

Do the ‘whistleblowers’ all agree on what happened on 9/11. Did some of them lay the explosive charges, or do some say they operated the particle beam?
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August 12, 2015 8:37pm
Left Right and Centre

It’s petty and unreasonable to deny the boys parking. Good on them for going public with this.

Hahahahahaha – crack up. Hahahahahahahaha
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August 12, 2015 8:42pm
nasska

Weight’s not everything as you would well know LR&C. I’m starting to pack it on but my better half has never weighed more than eight stone in her steel capped boots. At 64 she can still flip a stubborn ewe on its back without effort.

A pocket battleship in mufti. 🙂
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August 12, 2015 8:50pm
Reid

mm do you believe the US’ story about the USS Liberty about how it was all a big accident?

Do you believe the US’ story about the Gulf of Tonkin being a vicious attack by the evil Vietcong?

Do you believe there were WMDs in Iraq and that’s why the UKUSA invaded?

Do you believe Saddam was involved in 911?

Just yes or no will do.

Thanks.
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August 12, 2015 8:51pm
Shawn Herles

Some brilliant and funny debunking of the 911 conspiracy loons.

‘There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons.’

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Five Stupid Things About the 9/11 Truth Movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItoGVLj8ZfE
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August 12, 2015 8:55pm
Shawn Herles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm90wY-LWXg
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August 12, 2015 8:57pm
stephieboy

Reid (18,628 comments) says:
August 12th, 2015 at 8:51 pm

mm do you believe the US’ story about the USS Liberty about how it was all a big accident?

No but Israel believed it was a grievous error and generously compensated the victims families !

” In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.5 million 2015) in compensation to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to Liberty herself plus 13 years’ interest.”
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August 12, 2015 9:03pm
Reid

Some brilliant and funny debunking of the 911 conspiracy loons.

Of course, the fact a simple reading of the thread can establish there’s been nothing of sort, matters not to Captain Bananas.
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August 12, 2015 9:06pm
Shawn Herles

Also Reid, this guy took up your challenge to watch the first 8 minutes of Nazi doco Hellstorm, and had this to say:

“Awww C-mon (112 comments) says:
August 10th, 2015 at 11:13 pm

Well I watched 8 minutes Reid, as you asked.

Not sure where to start really so I will just keep it simple,

Wars suck for everyone involved, but we knew that.

Germans died too, but no-one denied that.

However the intro to that movie is a crock of Nazi propaganda bullshit and you owe me 8 minutes arsehole”

Hehe, suffer in ya jocks Nazi boy! 🙂 🙂 🙂
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August 12, 2015 9:09pm
stephieboy

Reid ,
Where are the witness / whistleblowers who e.g saw charges been laid ?

“They’re not there is you don’t look for them, but as soon as you do, there they are, in their thousands.

Isn’t that interesting.Reid,”

Ok I haven’t found them . Can you point me to witnesses who actual saw the charges been laid ?? When did they actually come forward “spilling the beans “as it were ???
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August 12, 2015 9:13pm
Reid

Ok I haven’t found them .

This is why I call you sillyboy, sillyboy.

Look again.

This time, pretend you really are.
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August 12, 2015 9:16pm
deadrightkev

Inandout

Latest Maori child death – Taupo. I hear yuh.

How unbelievably desensitized and lacking in priority we have become as a nation of apathetics aye? The All Blacks are more important to people than anything. What if they lose the RWC again? Then we go back to being miserable 24/7.

It shits me to watch those dropkicks in parliament spending time and billions on dumb arse laws and PC crap when they should be addressing the real issues that cause real trouble in the community.
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August 12, 2015 9:21pm
stephieboy

Reid,

“Ok I haven’t found them .”

Oh wow true confession !

What else ?

The whereabouts of passengers and crews including hijackers of 11, 175, 77 and 93 ??
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August 12, 2015 9:26pm
mikenmild

That would be four ‘nos’ from me, Reid.
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August 12, 2015 9:38pm
Reid

Oh wow true confession ! What else ?

Why nothing, sillyboy. I just keep calling you sillyboy.

What else did you expect, sillyboy?

That would be four ‘nos’ from me, Reid.

Sorry, wha?

(I must have lost interest mm, don’t bother explicating. It’s normally a massive disappointment from you, so I wouldn’t expect anything different to occur this time…)
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August 12, 2015 9:52pm
mikenmild

Well, you asked the questions. It was an hour ago, so I suppose they’ve fallen out of your tiny brain by now.
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August 12, 2015 9:55pm
stephieboy

Reid, Conspiracy theory!

“A delusion is something that people believe in despite a total lack of evidence.”

Richard Dawkins
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August 12, 2015 10:23pm
Odakyu-sen

I have an honest question.

Why do we have these regular discussions of 911 each weekday night from around 7:30 after the dishes have been done and you’ve found that there’s nothing on TV to watch and you haven’t got a date or club meeting to go to.

The same old arguments seem to be rolled out, and the thread inevitably degenerate until about 9:30 or bedtime (whichever comes first). The whole exercise seems pointless…

So why do the same small group engage in this posturing almost every night?

BTW, Shawn. How’s the welding course going?
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August 12, 2015 10:26pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Odakyu-sen

You are the observer of human behaviour…

I reckon you could furnish us with a couple of theories….

Mine is rather nasty, so I’ll keep it to myself.
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August 12, 2015 10:39pm
Odakyu-sen

Maggy,

I don’t engage in debate unless I believe that I might be able to change the other party’s opinion or that they might be able to change mine.

To quote one of my favorite demotivational posters: “The mind is like a parachute. It won’t work until it opens.”
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August 12, 2015 11:00pm
Odakyu-sen

I don’t think that anything I can say will change the regular posters’ attitude.

I am very likely wasting my energy even commenting about these regular on-line arguments. But you never know who is watching, and sometimes the side-liners have interesting input.
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August 12, 2015 11:07pm
Odakyu-sen

Okay, Maggy.

A theory.

It could be something really basic such as they simply like the sound of their own voices. Maybe they’re lonely. Maybe they just like verbally abusing each other. (You’d think there would be sites out there specifically for that kind of hobby…) Maybe they’re a little drunk when they type. Maybe they like to rattle each others’ cages.

(Yawn.) Anyway. I’m off to bed.

Oyasumi nasai.
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August 12, 2015 11:13pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@Odakyu-sen

when you consider the numerous matters that could be discussed &/or debated here on KB, especially those that are daily being overlooked by the MSM, it seems a pity that GD descends into a weird lek display. Goodness only knows who or what is meant to be impressed…..

I’m here mainly to see other points of view….. I know the PC/Wgtn Bureaucrat/ trendy lefty view off by heart….
Anyway, about open minds…. Griff reckons my brains have fallen out…
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August 12, 2015 11:25pm
SPC

wellygirl 8.05pm, if an employer has unused land it is not prepared to let its employees use for a car park, when they ask for this, it deserves the loss of loyalty of its employees.
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August 13, 2015 1:09am
Viking2

New Zealand has 40 ideas for a new flag – and they’re awful

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/71071730/New-Zealand-has-40-ideas-for-a-new-flag-and-they-re-awful

So so true.
they are bloody awful.

But like the Emperor with no clothes no one has the balls to tell these people that. And of course Key will die in a ditch to change something.
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August 13, 2015 6:36am
UglyTruth

So why do the same small group engage in this posturing almost every night?

It’s not posturing on the part of people like Reid, EAD, and myself. The evidence of conspiracy is overwhelming – just look at way that apologists like stephieboy lie about the existence of evidence and argue inanities like “but no whistleblowers who placed explosives have come forward.!”
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August 13, 2015 8:14am
Lucia Maria

Wellygirl,

Sorry I didn’t notice your comment until now as you didn’t refer to me by name.

You say that they should be entitled to park on the grounds…

I never said “entitled”. What I did say was, It’s empty, what is the harm? Seriously, if it were a group of teachers that needed the car parking, I bet there would be no problem.”

SPC makes a good point, that “if an employer has unused land it is not prepared to let its employees use for a car park, when they ask for this, it deserves the loss of loyalty of its employees.

Most likely it’s because it’s teenage boys that are asking for this is setting everyone off.
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