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Kea

The rumble of a V8 still ‘turns me on’

Judith, this should get the juices flowing 🙂

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQF5hGL-Rf3mq0IvnjuYEXSq8T-1V9nPb3X4CoWyFH7YAo6eg-9
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May 4, 2014 6:03pm
Judith

@ Kea (10,977 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 6:03 pm

LOL – yeah, NAH!! Nice try!
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May 4, 2014 6:08pm
Rowan

I see the broken record is still spouting of her ignorance of the Bain case, which she clearly knows nothing about. The glasses argument is sooo last century and if reposting what a corrupt fraud of an ex lawyer (Guest) has to say then it shows the strength of the argument. I am just awaiting the cartoon of how DB ‘needed’ these glasses to shoot 3 people at point blank range (in bed) but his vision was good enough that he didn’t need them to shoot his father who was concious and standing upright. Given that they were Mrs Bains glasses with one lens adjusted for astigmatism then they would not have been of any assistance to David.
But Aunt Fanny knows all this already and that they are evidence of nothing but it doesn’t suit her fantasy story so overlooks the facts in favour of her conspiracy theories.
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May 4, 2014 6:08pm
mikenmild

I see Judith Collins has found herself in some more trouble, this time having to apologise for slanging off a One News reported. Sad.
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May 4, 2014 6:08pm
Judith

@ Redbaiter (6,489 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 5:20 pm

Actually when I was a teenager, many many many years ago, the guys were fond of buying old hearses which had originally been imported from the USA. They were reasonably cheap – but not to run, sometimes we have to all chip in a dollar each to fill the tank!

My next door neighbour had a Dodge – would probably be worth an ‘arm and a leg’ now.
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May 4, 2014 6:11pm
stigie

Didnt know you had a real V8 Reddy, we thought you had a Skoda ?
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May 4, 2014 6:11pm
Judith

@ mikenmild (8,991 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

I think Judith Collins is wanting to make a grand exit. She is getting close to being removed from the PM’s christmas card list, I should imagine.

What she did to Katie Bradford is not on – it doesn’t matter who your parents are, Collin’s actions were that of a prize cow. I think she’ll be gone by lunchtime! (just not sure which day!)
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May 4, 2014 6:13pm
Rowan

Shawn LH
Only clear facts in the case is the death of Muggins kiddie fiddling hero whose death scene is not consistent with anything else than a self inflicted shot, the crown unsuprisingly have absolutely no explanation of how it is a ‘murder’ scene’. The fruitloops put up quite a comedic clip on there website of their reconstruction, which is worth a watch for its sheer entertainment value only. I recommend you relieve yourself before watching it as the entertainment value is worth an A but it is utterly ludicrous! Maybe it should have been shown to the jury for entertainment!
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May 4, 2014 6:16pm
mikenmild

Nice to know a few folks still believe in David Bain’s innonence. Touching really, in a sad way.
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May 4, 2014 6:19pm
ShawnLH

Microwaves and TV’s don’t make up for this:

“The Trail of Tears is a name given to the ethnic cleansing and forced relocation of Native American nations from southeastern parts of the United States following the Indian Removal Act of 1830. The removal included many members of the Cherokee, Muscogee (Creek), Seminole, Chickasaw, and Choctaw nations, among others in the United States, from their homelands to Indian Territory in eastern sections of the present-day state of Oklahoma. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the Choctaw Nation in 1831.[1]

Many Native Americans suffered from exposure, disease and starvation on the route to their destinations. Many died, including 2,000-6,000 of 16,542 relocated Cherokee.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

The fundamental flaw in wat’s argument is that everyone else is as soulless as he is, or as most atheists are. Defining the good life based on toys and consumer choice displays a poverty of soul, a shallow and superficial idea of what makes a life good.

Moreover, the supposed pay off wat thinks was worth it really was not. The horrific suffering, genocide, and destruction of culture is not remotely made up for by consumerism, not by a long shot.
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May 4, 2014 6:20pm
wat dabney

ShawnLH,

If you look back in the thread, you’ll find that the debate was about the effect on today’s Maori ,as opposed to the effects on those who experienced colonisation.

Get back to us when you start to shave, eh?
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May 4, 2014 6:24pm
Kea

I see Judith Collins has found herself in some more trouble, this time having to apologise for slanging off a One News reported. Sad.

milky, so you consider it okay for reporters to ask favors of ministers ?

Why should the ministers who represent us grovel and scrape to the dirty corrupt gutter press of the left, or do you expect the minister to tell lies to protect the gutter press ?
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May 4, 2014 6:24pm
Fletch

Ugly Truth, who are the lost tribes of Israel? And if they are lost to history

Haven’t been following this thread at all, just picking through it for bits of interest, but (devoid of context, and out of interest) just mentioning that Israel has welcomed home one of the ‘lost tribes’ from India.

Indian Jews from ‘lost tribe’ of Bnei Menashe arrive in Israel

An Israeli chief rabbi recognized them as a lost tribe in 2005 and about 1,700 moved to Israel before the government stopped giving them visas; now that Israel has reversed that policy, 7,200 more are expected to immigrate.

Dozens more Jews who are believed to be the descendants of a lost biblical Jewish tribe immigrated to Israel on Monday from their village in northeastern India.

The Bnei Menashe say they are descended from Jews banished from ancient Israel to India in the eighth century B.C. An Israeli chief rabbi recognized them as a lost tribe in 2005 and about 1,700 moved to Israel before the government stopped giving them visas.

Israel recently reversed that policy, agreeing to let the remaining 7,200 Bnei Menashe immigrate. Fifty-three arrived on Monday.

Nearly 300 more members of the community will arrive in the coming weeks, said Michael Freund, of the non-profit organization Shavei Israel, and an activist on their behalf.

The community, which lives in India’s northeastern border states of Manipur and Mizoram have been practicing Judaism just as their ancestors did, including observing the Sabbath, keeping kosher, celebrating the festivals and following the laws of family purity.

“After waiting for thousands of years, our dream came true,” said 26-year-old Lhing Lenchonz, who arrived with her husband and 8-month-old daughter.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/indian-jews-from-lost-tribe-of-bnei-menashe-arrive-in-israel-1.489676
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May 4, 2014 6:28pm
Kea

The Trail of Tears is a name given to the ethnic cleansing and forced relocation of… blah blah… white guilt… blah blah… noble savage… blah blah

ShawnLH , how do you feel about the mass colonisation of the area recently renamed – Israel – and the forced relocation of its inhabitants ?
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May 4, 2014 6:29pm
UglyTruth

Would you identify the Jews as the Christ Killers.?

No, the plot by the Pharisees was not successful.

That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah’ — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not — nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself.
The Quran, Surah 4:157-158

Jesus, seeing that great was the multitude of them that returned to their heart for to walk in the law of God, went up into the mountain, and abode all night in prayer, and when day was come he descended from the mountain, and chose twelve, whom he called apostles, among whom is Judas, who was slain upon the cross. Their names are: Andrew and Peter his brother, fishermen; Barnabas, who wrote this, with Matthew the publican, who sat at the receipt of custom; John and James, sons of Zebedee; Thaddaeus and Judas; Bartholomew and Philip; James, and Judas Iscariot the traitor. To these he always revealed the divine secrets; but the Iscariot Judas he made his dispenser of that which was given in alms, but he stole the tenth part of everything.
The Gospel of Barnabus.
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May 4, 2014 6:29pm
mikenmild

Kea
Read the story and do try to keep up: Collins apologised for what she said – no favours were asked.
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May 4, 2014 6:34pm
Judith

@ Kea (10,978 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 6:24 pm

1. The minister wasn’t asked a question, she volunteered the information regarding a discussion she had with someone else.
2. The minister represents all of New Zealand, NOT just those that voted for her.
3. Do you know who Miss Bradford voted for, or are you just presuming she votes the same as her mother?
4. Do you approve of people being judged according to the values of their parents?
5. Bradford stated it was just a conversation and she did not ask any favours. Collins didn’t say she asked for a favour either, but she did roughly imply it.
6. Any New Zealander, regardless of their political views should be able to approach a Member of Parliament and ask whatever question they like without fear of having their names and the matter aired on public TV.

I am fully aware for a female to make in Politics they have to be one of the best ‘men’ but how many male MP’s have you seen publicly reveal the name and private business details of a member of the public on something that was not in the publics interest to know?

Collins was being a bitch – there is no justification for what she did.
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May 4, 2014 6:34pm
nasska

Nothing says “I’ve got a two inch cock & a credit card” quite like putting up a photo of your V8 Mustang. 🙂
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May 4, 2014 6:38pm
mikenmild

I have no V8 nasska…
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May 4, 2014 6:41pm
UglyTruth

The minister represents all of New Zealand, NOT just those that voted for her.

No, she only represents the state or the body politic. The state doesn’t speak for the people without a mandate from the voters, and the voters don’t speak for all of the people.
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May 4, 2014 6:41pm
Kea

Fletch @ 6:28, yes and they also taught this: [careful with religious fables]

The Toledot Jeshu (Book of the Life of Jesus), is a devastating Hebrew book to belittle the person of Jesus by ascribing to Him illegitimate birth, magic, witchcraft, and a shameful death. The main point of the Toledot is that Jesus is a deceiver and a heretic who was crucified by the Jews and his disciples stole his body and deceived others by proclaiming his resurrection. All the Toledot Jeshu editions declared Jesus Christ to be a bastard.

Virgin Mary is portrayed in the Toledot as a woman who conceived Jesus as a result of rape by a Roman soldier, Joseph Pandera.

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/+Doc-Jews-Catholics&Christianity/JewsTellTalesOnJesus.htm

Thus uncensored versions of the Talmud influenced early medieval attitudes toward Christianity. In addition, mention should be made of the vehemently anti-Christian Toledot Yeshu (The Life of Jesus), a Jewish biographical narrative about Jesus, which probably appeared in its complete form around the 10th century. In it, Jesus is presented as the product of a rape–a disrespectful rebel who achieved supernatural powers by stealing a holy name from the Temple.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issues/Jews_and_Non-Jews/Attitudes_Toward_Non-Jews/Christianity.shtml
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May 4, 2014 6:42pm
UglyTruth

A close tie between two brothers – one the president of CBS News and the other the White House adviser who now is at the center of the Benghazi email scandal – wasn’t discussed with viewers because top brass though it “wasn’t relevant,” according to a former reporter for the network.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/cbs-conceals-family-ties-to-benghazi-scandal/
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May 4, 2014 6:45pm
cha

Nothing says “I’ve got a two inch cock & a credit card

https://twitter.com/YeaYouRite/statuses/462696733277839360
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May 4, 2014 6:48pm
stigie

Might be better off with a huge cock, no credit card and a Skoda Nasska ?
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May 4, 2014 6:49pm
Kea

cha, I don’t think the lady in your link has a two inch cock. Looking like that she could have any size she wants !
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May 4, 2014 6:50pm
nasska

He plays the hand he was dealt stigie. 🙂
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May 4, 2014 6:53pm
Redbaiter

I was torn between the Mustang and the Porsche 911, which also wears a CR flag, but in the end KG decided the Mustang would piss you losers off the most.
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May 4, 2014 7:25pm
nasska

And a Porsche 911!

I’ve revised my estimates Baity…..inch & a half max. 🙂
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May 4, 2014 7:30pm
Redbaiter

That’s rich from someone who still drives a 57 Fergie into town and has sex with his sister.
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May 4, 2014 7:33pm
Kea

nasska, Red is being quite bitchy, I am not so sure Red is getting any cock at all.
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May 4, 2014 7:35pm
stigie

Was it a 23hp or a 28hp Fergie Reddy….makes a huge difference !~
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May 4, 2014 7:37pm
Kea

My car is such a tragic looking pile of crap that Red would call the cops if I parked it outside his retirement home. Its so bad car thieves would probably leave $20 on the seat to help me out. Its reliable and I have other ways to impress the ladies, though I am still not sure what they are 🙂
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May 4, 2014 7:43pm
nasska

He treated his lover of fifteen years to an expensive manicure yesterday Kea.

Although, his left hand is now looking pretty shabby next to it. 🙂
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May 4, 2014 7:45pm
Tom Jackson

Collins was being a bitch

What’s new about that?

What is up with National? They had all these really great, competent, intelligent female politicians like Te Heu Heu and Rich who everybody (even Labour voters) actually liked and respected.

So National scares them off and promotes authoritarian idiots like Collins and Bennett, along with incompetents like Parata and Tolley.

Are they trying to sabotage the progress of gender equality by stealth?
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May 4, 2014 7:49pm
Tom Jackson

Actually when I was a teenager, many many many years ago, the guys were fond of buying old hearses.

The only reason I could imagine purchasing such a vehicle is that it would be pretty easy to pick up cute Goth girls. Stick a casket in the back and it’s a veritable love machine.

If the coffin is a rockin’, it ain’t Dracula who’s knockin’.
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May 4, 2014 7:53pm
Kea

I was torn between the Mustang and the Porsche 911, which also wears a CR flag, but in the end KG decided the Mustang would piss you losers off the most.

Spoken like a true man of the people 🙂
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May 4, 2014 7:53pm
UglyTruth

In response to a freedom of information request made by Before It’s News friend and Attorney Orly Taitz requesting any and all documents in the possession of NSA regarding the missing Malaysian airplane MH370, the NSA has seemingly slit its own wrist by denying all information under the grounds of Executive Order 13526: “…the MH370 disappearance has been classified as a matter ‘to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign relations’….”

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2014/05/nsa-slits-own-wrist-classifies-mh370-info-what-do-they-know-the-rest-of-the-world-doesnt-know-2462386.html
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May 4, 2014 7:54pm
mikenmild

Orly Taitz? Loony alert!
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May 4, 2014 7:56pm
Tom Jackson

In response to a freedom of information request made by Before It’s News friend and Attorney Orly Taitz

Are you fuckin mad, bro?

Oily Taint is famous for being a certifiable lunatic.
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May 4, 2014 7:56pm
nasska

Why is it that skinny girls think that they’re a bit chubby?
Curvy girls think that they’re fat?
Fat girls think that they’re obese?
And Obese girls think they’re bloody supermodels?
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May 4, 2014 8:00pm
UglyTruth

Oily Taint is famous for being a certifiable lunatic.

How does that affect the response to the FOI request?

There’s reason to believe that they’ve got something to cover up:

THE ISRAELI TWIN – Why would Israel have a plane identical to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane in storage in Tel Aviv? The plane in this photo is Boeing 777 2H6(ER) first flown in July 1998, Construction No. 28416* (Original Reg. No. 9M-MRI), an identical twin of the missing plane, which was given a new registration number (N105GT) and flown to Israel in November 2013.
http://www.bollyn.com/are-the-israelis-planning-another-9-11-using-the-missing-777/
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May 4, 2014 8:01pm
mikenmild

A lunatic on one issue (birtherism) is likely to show nuttiness in other areas. No surprise to find Ugly considers her a reliable source though.
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May 4, 2014 8:03pm
Tom Jackson

How does that affect the response to the FOI request?

There’s reason to believe that they’ve got something to cover up:

THE ISRAELI TWIN – Why would Israel have a plane identical to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane in storage in Tel Aviv? The plane in this photo is Boeing 777 2H6(ER) first flown in July 1998, Construction No. 28416* (Original Reg. No. 9M-MRI), an identical twin of the missing plane, which was given a new registration number (N105GT) and flown to Israel in November 2013.

I guess she’s not the only lunatic. I think you’d make a lovely couple. Apparently she’s also a nymphomaniac, so you have a chance.
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May 4, 2014 8:03pm
Judith

@ Tom Jackson (2,298 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

There is an old saying, something about in order for a woman to be as successful as a man, she has to work twice as hard a her male counterparts, and be twice as tough, whilst at the same time wearing high heels.

That may have once been the case, but I think we have come far enough that we accept the difference between males and females, and appreciate each for what they can offer.

There is nothing wrong with her being tough, but there is a huge difference between tough and being bitchy.

I have always thought she was a very intelligent woman, however her behaviour today, on both the Bradford issue, and the answer regarding the swamp Kauri was extremely stupid. I’m pleased to see that Key was at least clever enough not to support her bad behaviour – which frankly came across like a mini tantrum.

It is going to be an interesting week – Labour on its own wouldn’t have got much kudos out of this, but if the media take it on board – then Key may have to sacrifice the ‘naughty child’ in order to appease the public.

Parliamentary TV might be screened on the comedy channel this week!
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May 4, 2014 8:06pm
UglyTruth

A lunatic on one issue (birtherism) is likely to show nuttiness in other areas.

Finished your ad hom yet?

It doesn’t matter if she’s certified five owls crazy, the FOI response says that they are hiding something.
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May 4, 2014 8:07pm
Kea

Ugly, why would you ask the NSA in the USA about a Malaysian plane that went missing in Asia with a bunch of Asians on board on the way to China ?

I know the US is a great source of conspiracy theories but it is not the world. The illusion that it is the world is largely due to your inability to access content in other languages from more intelligent countries.
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May 4, 2014 8:07pm
nasska

….”I think you’d make a lovely couple. Apparently she’s also a nymphomaniac, so you have a chance.”…..

We’ve got a bloke hanging around here with a V8 Mustang Tom. He hasn’t had any action for a bit so they might be up for a threesome. 🙂
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May 4, 2014 8:07pm
Kea

There is an old saying, something about in order for a woman to be as successful as a man, she has to work twice as hard a her male counterparts, and be twice as tough, whilst at the same time wearing high heels.

And here is another even older saying:

A woman place is in the home. 😉
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May 4, 2014 8:09pm
Judith

@ Tom Jackson (2,301 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 7:53 pm

The Goth fashion was still a few decades away when I was a teenager!

There were two reasons the hearses were popular – one they were cheap, and two there was plenty of room to lie down in the back – I’ll leave the rest up to your imagination! It was the 70’s!
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May 4, 2014 8:10pm
Judith

@ Kea (10,986 comments) says:
May 4th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know – my kids keep telling me I should be in a home too!!
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May 4, 2014 8:11pm
Kea

Why would Israel have a plane identical to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane in storage in Tel Aviv?

Bwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha 🙂

There are over a thousand in circulation. Maybe Israel brought one to fly people around and stuff ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777
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May 4, 2014 8:14pm
Tom Jackson

There is nothing wrong with her being tough, but there is a huge difference between tough and being bitchy.

Helen Clark was tough. Marilyn Waring was tough. Hillary Clinton is tough. Margaret Thatcher was tough. You can be tough without coming across as a mindless authoritarian. If you are going to be a tough politician, you need the capacity to laugh at yourself in public. Muldoon had that.

Yes, I do remember the 70s Love Wagons, even if I was too young to partake at the time. 😉
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May 4, 2014 8:15pm
UglyTruth

The illusion that it is the world is largely due to your inability to access content in other languages from more intelligent countries.

DERP

http://anewwe.org/dear-nsa/whistle-blowers-everything-nsa/sibel-edmonds-nsa-whistleblowers-coalition-boiling-frogs-post/
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May 4, 2014 8:16pm
mikenmild

Ha ha Ugly. I only ad hom on total fucking idiots. Even if Taitz was sane, how could you possibly know whether such a FOIA request was even made, or if it was in fact denied whether there might not be proper grounds for such a denial?
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May 4, 2014 8:18pm
Tom Jackson

We’ve got a bloke hanging around here with a V8 Mustang Tom. He hasn’t had any action for a bit so they might be up for a threesome.

I thought Russ plays exclusively for the other team, IIRC.
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May 4, 2014 8:19pm
Kea

Ugly, if there are hidden facts about 911 then all this focus on nutty conspiracy theories will ensure those facts never gain public acceptance, even if they were true.

The Truther movement would be an ideal cover.
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May 4, 2014 8:22pm
Tom Jackson

Ugly, if there are hidden facts about 911 then all this focus on nutty conspiracy theories will ensure those facts never gain public acceptance, even if they were true.

Everyone knows that it was the Jews in the Conservatory with the candlestick.
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May 4, 2014 8:24pm
UglyTruth

There are over a thousand in circulation.

So what? The planes are produced in pairs, it was one of two.

http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress3/2014/03/28/flight-mh370-in-tel-aviv/

Plane history: It was first leased by Malaysia airlines. Then purchased by GA Telesis. Then, FIVE FULL YEARS before the absolute MINIMUM life span, was scheduled to be scrapped for parts (makes no sense at all, it could have flown for at least 10 more years), and then for some mysterious reason it showed up in France, only to end up in Tel Aviv. This is where it all gets odd – WHY would it be slated for scrapping in America while still far too new, only to end up in Israel just sitting there?
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May 4, 2014 8:24pm
Kea

I thought Russ plays exclusively for the other team

Tom, only since the vile Jesus hating progs passed the compulsory sodomy and gay marriage Act in order to undermine all things good and decent in the world. [Red was never much good at statutory interpretation] 😉
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May 4, 2014 8:26pm
Tom Jackson

Plane history: It was first leased by Malaysia airlines. Then purchased by GA Telesis. Then, FIVE FULL YEARS before the absolute MINIMUM life span, was scheduled to be scrapped for parts (makes no sense at all, it could have flown for at least 10 more years), and then for some mysterious reason it showed up in France, only to end up in Tel Aviv.

And JFK’s reanimated corpse was seen piloting it, with Jimmy Hoffa as flight engineer.

I also heard they served peanuts with the Masonic logo on them.

ITS A CONPSIRACY!11!!
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May 4, 2014 8:26pm
mikenmild

Bill English warns the election could be close:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10006820/Election-will-be-close-English
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May 4, 2014 8:27pm
UglyTruth

Ha ha Ugly. I only ad hom on total fucking idiots.

So what? You’re the idiot who doesn’t have an argument.

how could you possibly know whether such a FOIA request was even made, or if it was in fact denied whether there might not be proper grounds for such a denial?

Well maybe you should read the link and find out for yourself, before you go full retard?
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May 4, 2014 8:28pm
Tom Jackson

Tom, only since the vile Jesus hating progs passed the compulsory sodomy and gay marriage Act

So he only objects to state-funded buggery?
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May 4, 2014 8:28pm
Kea

“There are over a thousand in circulation.”

So what? The planes are produced in pairs, it was one of two.

Ugly, so there is your answer I would have thought !

Where are you going with this ? You know I do not mindlessly defend Israel, but are you seriously saying they were behind that attack ?
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May 4, 2014 8:30pm
Tom Jackson

Well maybe you should read the link and find out for yourself, before you go full retard?

From the same site.

http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress3/category/the-aerosol-programme/

Do you believe in chemtrails, Ugly?

This is also epic:

http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress3/category/the-brotherhood-of-zeus-and-kronos/

It’s like the Wal Mart of lunacy.
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May 4, 2014 8:32pm
All_on_Red

Hilary Clinton doesn’t seem so tough when a shoe gets thrown at her. Poor diddums ducked and ran for her Secret Service minders.
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May 4, 2014 8:32pm
Kea

Tom, you make a strong point. Red has always been proud of his ability to be gay without the Nanny States help. He was gay long before it was made compulsory.
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May 4, 2014 8:33pm
mikenmild

Yeah All_on_Red, she should have stood tall and stared blankly at the assailant like George W did.
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May 4, 2014 8:34pm
All_on_Red

Tall and Hilary don’t go together. Shrunken old person that she is. If she’s the best the Dems have got ….
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May 4, 2014 8:37pm
itstricky

Bill English warns the election could be close:

We have to get the highest vote any incumbent has ever got, to win. The Opposition can be divided, it can have many leaders and co-leaders, it can have no vision, very little policy, be disorganised, but under MMP it can win. We need to remember that every single day,” English warned.

Hold on, it’s it all Labour with regards to releasing policy? When was the last time National released a policy?
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May 4, 2014 8:38pm
All_on_Red

Must go, Blacklist is on. Ugly probably thinks it’s a documentary!
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May 4, 2014 8:39pm
Kea

Ugly, my bad re the 777. I thought you were talking about 911 not Malaysia MH370. Though my point still stands. They are a common plane.

Anyway you were saying how Israel was behind that one as well…

Why would Israel do that ?
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May 4, 2014 8:39pm
mikenmild

All_on_Red
But who will the Republicans be able to agree on as a candidate. Anyone pure enough will be unelectable and anyone electable will not be pure enough.
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May 4, 2014 8:46pm
UglyTruth

Where are you going with this ? You know I do not mindlessly defend Israel, but are you seriously saying they were behind that attack ?

GA Telesys/Ultimate Aircraft Composites has got “Israeli front company” written all over it.
It doesn’t prove that the Zionists were behind the disappearance of MH370, it’s just evidence that they were involved.
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May 4, 2014 8:47pm
Kea

Ugly, yes I got that. My question is simply: Why ?
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May 4, 2014 8:54pm
UglyTruth

Why would Israel do that ?

To set up Iran. Something was going on, they shut down all their embassies.
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May 4, 2014 8:57pm
Tom Jackson

Hillary Clinton doesn’t seem so tough when a shoe gets thrown at her. Poor diddums ducked and ran for her Secret Service minders.

Hillary Clinton is the pre-eminent female politician of her generation. The only person who has a show of preventing her from becoming the first female President of the US is Elizabeth Warren, and I don’t think she has a show.

Like her or loathe her, Hillary is extremely smart, accomplished, tenacious and politically astute. She will humiliate whomever the Republicans put up. They would need someone of the stature of Eisenhower or the political instincts of Nixon to beat her, and they have no such candidate.
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May 4, 2014 8:59pm
Kea

Ugly I would not trust the Israelis as far as I could kick them regarding Iran, but what is the link with a ordinary passenger flight in Asia and Iran ?
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May 4, 2014 9:00pm
UglyTruth

Two “Iranians” with false passports. There were initially suspect hijackers then the story was they were political refugees.
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May 4, 2014 9:03pm
Tom Jackson

Bill English warns the election could be close:

I’ve been saying this for ages. National at it’s absolute peak has never been likely to get over 50% of the vote. The left parties at their peak have managed that in the past.

National’s exceptional poll ratings have come largely at the expense of its coalition partners, and even that is not enough.

My guess is that Winston will hold the balance of power and be bribed into a confidence and supply agreement with National. A Labour/Greens/NZF government just isn’t going to work.

To be blunt, most of the country would be happy with that. They like Key, but don’t want more privatisations and other far right shit. Winston would put a stop to most of it.
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May 4, 2014 9:05pm
Kea

Ugly, yes we know about them. A couple of young guys looking for a better life. They were cleared.

Is that it ?
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May 4, 2014 9:07pm
mikenmild

What do you expect from Ugly, Kea? Something that makes sense?
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May 4, 2014 9:09pm
Kea

milky, I was hoping for a good yarn but he seems strangely reticent. I never knew the Israelis were such a threat to civil aviation and were hoping for a bit of detail. I sat next to one on an international flight once. Seems I was lucky to escape ! 😉
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May 4, 2014 9:15pm
UglyTruth

Is that it ?

Apart for The Zionists history of involvement in general nefarium in the Middle East and their presence at Diego Garcia when access was restricted, you mean?
The same Diego Gracia that is near the Maldives where there were reports of a plane like MH370…
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May 4, 2014 9:17pm
mikenmild

Depressing forecast of how things will play out in Ukraine:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/05/vladimir_putin_s_strategy_in_ukraine_the_kremlin_leader_condemns_and_copies.2.html
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May 4, 2014 9:18pm
Kea

KB’s going to be a fun read if National does not get in. Though the ruling elite of homosexual Muslim communists will probably ban it soon after forming their coalition of pure evil. 😉
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May 4, 2014 9:19pm
mikenmild

I’m just looking forward to the Kiwibloggers praising the new co-PM, Sir Winston Peters, as soon as he inks a deal with John Key.
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May 4, 2014 9:23pm
Kea

Ugly, you don’t need to convince Kea of Zionist mischief. But I am asking you to focus on this one thing. Why would they kill a bunch of Asians on an ordinary passenger flight ?

The fact Zionists do some bad things does not mean any bad thing they are accused of is automatically true. Do they “conspire” ? Yes they do, but all groups conspire to improve their circumstances. Fiji and Kenya, Hindus and Buddhists do too, but the Zionists are just better at it. It does not follow they are uniquely evil. I find plenty to criticize without demonising them and making absurd unproven claims.
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May 4, 2014 9:26pm
UglyTruth

Why would they kill a bunch of Asians on an ordinary passenger flight ?

Who says there are dead? There’s no plane and no bodies recovered.

all groups conspire to improve their circumstances

No, some are honourable.

I find plenty to criticize without demonising them and making absurd unproven claims.

Who made an absurd unproven claim?
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May 4, 2014 9:32pm
Kea

I’m just looking forward to the Kiwibloggers praising the new co-PM, Sir Winston Peters, as soon as he inks a deal with John Key.

I predict Winston will attempt to win over the Asian vote by allowing mass immigration of China’s 20 Million Muslims and in a bold humanitarian move massively increase refugee quotas by allowing persecuted Gay Muslims sanctuary in NZ.

By 2020 I expect NZ will be the gay Muslim capital of the world with rigidly enforced Gay Sharia law.
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May 4, 2014 9:33pm
Kea

Ugly, okay so they may be still alive. What do the Zionists want with a bunch of Asians ? I know many are probably Muslim, but the Muslim folk there are pretty laid back and the ones I know do not like the ME Muslims much at all. Not least because of their appalling abuse of Maids in places like Saudi Arabia.
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May 4, 2014 9:38pm
TimG_Oz

1) Login to Kiwiblog
2) CTRL-F “Demerits”.
3) 0 Results found. Still alive in the sweepstake for closest to the date of Kea’s next departure
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May 4, 2014 9:40pm
UglyTruth

Who made an absurd unproven claim?

“all groups conspire to improve their circumstances” ~ Kea
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May 4, 2014 9:40pm
Kea

TimG_Oz, I know freedom of speech appalls you. Maybe you can get the ADL onto me ?

I reckon I am on about 70 now. What date did you predict ? 🙂
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May 4, 2014 9:42pm
Kea

Who made an absurd unproven claim?

“all groups conspire to improve their circumstances” ~ Kea

Ugly, so you reckon “zionists” are the only group to collude and conspire to improve their circumstances ? You must have done poorly in Social Studies at your care facility.
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May 4, 2014 9:44pm
UglyTruth

Resorting to a smear after you got outed as a hypocrite, Kea? How quaint.
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May 4, 2014 9:49pm
TimG_Oz

Nah mate just looking forward to getting my scroll finger back. Plenty of freedom of speech on the Internet. Get your own page.

But, if you can hold out till Wednesday, then consider it a favor for me 😉
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May 4, 2014 9:56pm
Kea

Ugly, still waiting for details on the Zionist plot to hijack a plane load of Asians ? Maybe you should check if Mossad has been buying more rice than usual ?
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May 4, 2014 10:15pm
ShawnLH

Oh cripes Kea, don’t you get it. EVERYTHING bad that happens in the world is the fault of Israel. They are Satanic Zionist Reptilian Shape Shifters, didn’t you know that?

Or the Queen.

Or the Pope.

Or both the Queen and the Pope, as according to Ugly they are both in the same secret Satanic ritual abuse cult. Well, when the Queen is not making Canadian children magically disappear at picnics that is.

Or whoever Peter Arnett and his International Tribunal says.

Or whoever David Icke says is an alien lizard person this week.

Or……

Nah, Ugly just needs to take his meds. 🙂
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May 4, 2014 10:16pm
Kea

Tim, have you found my recent posts on Jewish literature and Israeli news articles informative ? I have been swatting up 🙂

Though strangely they keep getting voted down. Probably from the Nazis ShawnLH has been telling me about.
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