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Azeraph

Has the Toronto mayor resigned yet?
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November 20, 2013 8:11am
big bruv

Has Len Brown resigned yet?
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November 20, 2013 8:13am
flipper

Con*liffe [sic] and his union cronies – dancing on the Pike River grave.
What sick sonzabitches they are!
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November 20, 2013 8:14am
Pete George

Cunliffe’s interview with Duncan Garner on heavying ‘corporates’ to pay or he’ll take them to court.

Cunliffe: Whether you go the corporate route or whether you go the Government route the Government has a role to play, and of course having underwritten the 3.4 million, we will recover it, from the corporates who received tens of millions of dollars of insurance money, and gave none of it to the families.

Garner: So you’ll take them to court, you’ll take them to court to track down the money?

Cunliffe: Honestly Duncan I don’t think, I don’t think if the Prime Minister calls and says we’d really like you to think about this, I don’t think it’s going to end up in a court case., cause if they look in the prime Minister’s eyes and see that he’s serious, it wouldn’t be smart for them to go down that route.

Garner: So you would ring them up and threaten them as Prime Minister?

Cunliffe: …we’re talking about a trivial amounts of money, trivial amounts of money in the scheme of things and I would say to them “Hey fellas, there’s two ways we can do this, the easy way or the hard way. Which would you prefer?”

Full interview: http://yournz.org/2013/11/20/cunliffe-on-pike-river/
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November 20, 2013 8:17am
nickb

So David Corleone is basically making blackmail and extortion a central plank of his election policy.

You’re tuned to Labour folks!
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November 20, 2013 8:21am
iMP

New Washington poll out today has Romney ahead of Obama as preferred President. If polling day was today, Romney would win.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/ya-miss-mitt-romney-yet-poll-has-him-ahead-of-obama/
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November 20, 2013 8:24am
burt

Protesters having paid Labour minister for immigration attack National government
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November 20, 2013 8:32am
kowtow

Shit,I missed that it was International toilet day yesterday.

I don’t reckon any country that has such a shortage of shitters is a world power.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/11/india-faces-stinking-reality-toilet-day-201311189452589714.html
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November 20, 2013 8:37am
bhudson

nickb,

More like Josef Cunliffe.
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November 20, 2013 8:43am
burt

I don’t see why Labour are making a fuss of compensation – in their coalition deal with the Green’s they could just print the Pike River families a cool $2b each.
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November 20, 2013 8:47am
lilman

Piss off Bernie Monk,you have way to much to say.
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November 20, 2013 9:01am
kowtow

Conservatives in name only.

How queer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10460505/Tories-must-shout-about-gay-marriage-to-win-next-election.html
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November 20, 2013 9:14am
Pete George

Bernie Monk is clearly close to Labour, but another monk is on National’s side.

Monk tells Key of an eternal future at political helm

The Opposition may as well pack up and go on holiday: next year’s election is already won and John Key will be the Prime Minister for all eternity, says the monk at Thailand’s Wat Pho temple.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11159738
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November 20, 2013 9:15am
iMP

I can’t believe this. The Nazi party running a canadian school…?

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/nazi-party-at-school/
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November 20, 2013 9:27am
Ed Snack

I wonder if this story has much behind it: http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report/

Yes, it’s the NY Post and it’s open season on the Obama administration, but it certainly would fit with their modus operandi. Use the whole mechanism of government in any way possible to gain re-election, regardless of the legality or ethics of those actions.
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November 20, 2013 9:32am
Fletch

Another day, another Obama scandal.

The favorable report on job numbers in the U.S that was released before the 2012 election was faked and the Census Bureau knew it.

In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.
The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.

And the Census Bureau, which does the unemployment survey, knew it.

Just two years before the presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report, which is one of the most closely watched measures of the economy.

And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.

http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report/
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November 20, 2013 9:39am
Pete George

For the first time a majority in the US favours legalising marijuana according to Pew Resaerch.

Do you think the use of marijuana should be made legal or illegal?

Legal 52%
Illegal 45%

And when broken down by generation it’s easy to see where the trend is headed.

– Silent (born 1928-1945) 32%
– Boomer (born 1946-1964) 50%
– Gen X (born 1965-1980) 54%
– Millenial (born 1981-now) 65%

It would be interesting to see what opinion in New Zealand is, my guess it will have moved more towards favouring legalising than the US, or at least decriminalising use.

US now favours legalising marijuana
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November 20, 2013 9:42am
Fletch

Opps, Ed Snack, I didn’t see your post before I posted…
Just reported on the story I’d “Pocketed” on my iPhone.

Didn’t mean to double up.
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November 20, 2013 9:46am
Fletch

New Washington poll out today has Romney ahead of Obama as preferred President. If polling day was today, Romney would win.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/ya-miss-mitt-romney-yet-poll-has-him-ahead-of-obama/

iMP, and the Tea Party support is not far below that of Obama.

The ABC News – Washington Post poll released just after midnight has generated headlines for the sharp decline in Obama’s favorability ratings by just about every measure, and the growing unpopularity of Obamacare.

But there is a hidden gem in the poll that is not receiving much attention.

Support for the Tea Party movement is at 38% for all registered voters, not far below the 41% approval rating and 46% favorability rating for Obama.

Moreover, 46% think the Tea Party has too little/just about right influence versus 43% who think it has too much influence. 49% think the Tea Party political views are about right or too liberal, versus only 40% who think too conservative.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/11/hidden-gem-in-abcwapo-poll-strong-tea-party-support/
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November 20, 2013 9:49am
Dirty Rat

Has Ricky Herbert resigned yet ?
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November 20, 2013 9:53am
nickb

Remember this when John Campbell goes off on a leftist tirade. His employer has left NZ’s tax coffers out of pocket by $22m by the use of aggressive tax planning.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11159987
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November 20, 2013 9:58am
Gulag1917

Don’t fly certain airlines
http://www.watoday.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/pilots-losing-flying-skills-due-to-modern-plane-technology-20131119-2xt4t.html
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November 20, 2013 10:00am
Keeping Stock

@ Dirty Rat; unlike Len Brown, yes; he has. Unless the All Whites pull a rabbit out of the hat tonight (and as yet they don’t even have a hat!), he has confirmed that this will be his last match at the helm.

Len Brown could take a leaf out of his book; after all, Herbert is only being judged harshly on one bad performance, whereas Ms Chuang didn’t rate Mr Brown’s performances very well throughout.
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November 20, 2013 10:12am
Ed Snack

More interesting news out of the USA. Apparently the Health Department (and White House senior officials) were briefed way back in March by McKinsey & Co about the huge risks associated with the ACA roll-out with regard to progress on the development. And after receiving these and ongoing warnings, the secretary and other officials continued to testify to Congressional Energy and Commerce committee that all was well and proceeding well.

There are in fact significant penalties on false testifying before Congress even when not under oath, which surely this would qualify for. One problem though, these offenses would have to be prosecuted by the Justice Department under Eric Holder. There would seem to be two chances of this happening, fat and slim. Laws, you see, are for the little people and the opposition.

Has there ever been an administration quite so blatantly self-serving and corrupt as this one, really ? And how badly is the US public being served by the main stream media who stubbornly refuse to highlight this sort of behaviour. Surely equality of all before the law is one of the absolute cornerstones of a functional democracy (or republic in the US case) ? Nothing undermines this quicker than exempting those in power from the consequences of breaking the law that they apply to others.
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November 20, 2013 10:15am
Manolo

Some army follows Griff’s advice: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11160003

The Norwegian military said Tuesday it plans to put its troops on a vegetarian diet once a week in a bid to fight a new kind of enemy – climate change.

The army said its new meatless Mondays are meant to cut its consumption of ecologically unfriendly foods whose production contributes heavily to global warming.

“It’s a step to protect our climate. The idea is to serve food that’s respectful of the environment,” spokesman Eystein Kvarving told AFP.

Ah, those self-immolating Scandinavians, who at the same time embrace multi-culturalism.
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November 20, 2013 10:26am
igm

I see the infamous Gareth Morgan is becoming an expert on deep sea oil drilling. Best he sticks to being a latter day socialist and spend the money his son made him . . . keep his effen nose out of politics, it is about as worthy as comments from the obese criminal dotcom.
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November 20, 2013 10:29am
dime

“Best he sticks to being a latter day socialist and spend the money his son made him . ”

to be fair, he did make a shit ton of money offloading his garbage kiwisaver company to kiwibank. now he is off enjoying a kiwicoffee and a bike ride on his kiwibike.

fuck i hate how they through kiwi at the front of everything
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November 20, 2013 10:35am
Jack5

What John Campbell won’t be talking about on TV3 tonight – the tax rort companies of TV3’s owner MediaWorks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11159987
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November 20, 2013 10:35am
Weihana

Pete George (19,799) Says:
November 20th, 2013 at 9:42 am

For the first time a majority in the US favours legalising marijuana according to Pew Resaerch.

Since Obama has little to lose perhaps he can come out of the closet and “evolve” on this issue as well. On the other hand is there not a bigger case to be made that the federal government’s power under the commerce clause has become virtually unfettered since the New Deal.

I support Obamacare but perhaps it would be interesting to trade removal of Obamacare for removal of cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act. Not going to happen of course.
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November 20, 2013 10:36am
peterwn

igm – you mean like Winston Peters becoming an instant expert on ships. Took Winston an awful long time to wake up to what Maritine NZ latched on to straight away – that if metal fatigue was the problem then the other shaft could be waiting to fail. Hence the effort to look for the propeller and bit of shaft.

If it is found to be something else, then perhaps the Aratere can do freight runs.
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November 20, 2013 10:39am
igm

Jack5: If they succeed with the winding up, I hope it means the end of the effeminate little weasel Campbell.
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November 20, 2013 10:49am
MH

Len Brown lies a smouldering in the grave y.He wasn’t doing it on the sly,it was at the Sky. They both have tax receipts and parking validation to prove it, if only there had been a cop asking for sexual flavours instead of a gamboling habit he might have got away with it until the next erection. Probably a security picture in the Tower of Dotcom,Banks,Brown and his cohort all in a lift together.
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November 20, 2013 10:50am
Pete George

Isn’t Peters already an expert on ships? Or at least the running aground of ships?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Mikhail_Lermontov
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November 20, 2013 10:54am
MH

win-some peters – the poet of caucasus – very apt. Unlike Cunninglips or Rudderless, the self destructive Bismarcks of Labour.
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November 20, 2013 11:16am
Ashley Schaeffer

Wow, Toronto mayor Rob Ford. What a trainwreck. I’m surprised that they haven’t tried to section him already.
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November 20, 2013 11:40am
stephieboy

iMP (1,756) Says:
November 20th, 2013 at 8:24 am

What do you expect from a rabid right wing conservative blog. Their still bitter and twisted after 14/11/2012.?
What next a military putsch from the Tea baggers and the GOP extreme right.?
I see Winston Churchill is featured. Interesting and retained the NHS created by the Attlee government completely intact . Real treachery there I believe.
PS You might like to consider the Benghazi Hoax perpetuated by the GOP extreme right .!
BTW do they favour legalizing Dope.?
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November 20, 2013 11:57am
backster

Don’t blame David for giving away another three and a half million dollars to the families of the dead miners. They were Union members and he owes the Unions, anyway he says he is going to get it back from the filthy rich corporates minority owner of NZOG and the two major Indian companies who will tremble when they get a call from him.
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November 20, 2013 11:58am
greybeard

I think the Pike River families have received enough.
I also think the public deserves to know what has happened to the millions of dollars given in aid from the time the event occurred.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/pike-river-2010/64634/distribution-decision-pending-on-mine-donations

https://www.facebook.com/PikeRiverDonations

http://fightback.org.nz/2011/02/06/pike-river-update-compensation-and-investigation/

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1101/S00127/mccully-thanks-samoa-for-pike-river-mine-donation.htm

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pike-river-mine-disaster/4385386/Pike-River-donations

etc etc
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November 20, 2013 12:37pm
srylands

Gareth on oil exploratory drilling. 10 years ago I thought Gareth was quite a sensible chap, but he has lost the plot.

http://tinyurl.com/jwb6yzd
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November 20, 2013 12:40pm
Fletch

It’s looking like 60% – 70% of the healthcare.gov (Obamacare) website still needs to be built?!

The revelation came Tuesday during a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on the possible security risks surrounding healthcare.gov.

“The committee’s been reviewing materials that indicate that some parts of healthcare.gov were not completed before the launch, as we’ve discussed here,” Rep. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) said. “What portion of the website remained to be created when you launched on October 1st?”

“I don’t have an exact percentage,” said Henry Chao, deputy chief information officer of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. “I look at it in terms of overall marketplace systems.”

“I think it was a set of priority functions that needed to be in place,” Chao added.

“Well, how much do we have to build today?” Gardner pressed.

“Just an approximation, we’re probably sitting somewhere between 60 and 70 percent,” Chao said.

“Sixty to 70 percent that needs to be built still?” Gardner said.

“We still have to build the payment systems to make payments to issuers in January,” the Obamacare official said before adding, “the online application, verification, determination, plan compare, getting enrolled, generating enrollment transaction – that’s 100 percent there.”

“But the entire system is 60 to 70 percent away from being complete,” Gardner said.

“There’s the back office systems, the accounting systems, the payment systems … they still need to be done,” Chao said.

[from 2:40]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCQBDxMV48Q

That is incredible, really.
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November 20, 2013 12:46pm
Manolo

Marie Antoniette intervenes: http://washingtonexaminer.com/first-lady-rallies-on-obamacare-there-but-for-the-grace-of-god-go-i/article/2539422
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November 20, 2013 12:53pm
srylands

So this is the Labour response to a law chnage to better allocate Housing NZ houses to those most in need?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9421177/State-house-for-life-no-longer

“State house for life no longer”

Labour’s Housing spokesman Phil Twyford accused Smith of hypocrisy by pointing out he had remained in his ministerial home for six weeks after being sacked as a minister, saying Smith had claimed he did not want to move as it would disrupt his childrens’ schooling.

“That is an outrageous double standard,” he said.
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November 20, 2013 1:17pm
Paulus

I hear that Gareth Morgan will get his top off after tonight’s game, and become the new Manager of the Team he owns.
After all he knows everything doesn’t he ?
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November 20, 2013 1:23pm
wikiriwhis business

Published on Nov 19, 2013

In today’s video, Christopher Greene of AMTV explains why the U.S. Ponzi scheme of debt will collapse the dollar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R60M8-5c0j4
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November 20, 2013 2:31pm
wikiriwhis business

The 188 Ministers of Finance and Development on the Board of Governors of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund are dragging their feet in the transition from fiat currencies, and there is grave risk of permanent backwardation. Ever since July 7, 2013, the difference between the nearby futures price and the spot price of gold, and GOFO (the difference between the rate offered for future leases and the rate that applies to leases already in force) have been negative. (See the attached explanation by Antal E. Fekete).

It is imperative to replace fiat currencies with asset-backed currencies while time remains. The authorized signatory on the Global Collateral Account has allocated the 170,500 MT of gold in the vault of the Bank of Hawaii and the 12,000 MT of gold in the vault of the Bank of Tokyo for this purpose, but these banks are refusing to honor his instructions. Instead, they are wasting time with unsolicited proposals in order to perpetuate their illegal domination over the world’s currencies.

Under this sad state of affairs, physical gold and silver is the best alternative.

Best,
Karen
Acting General Counsel
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development
http://www.kahudes.net
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November 20, 2013 2:33pm
Samuel Smith

Another Tory Party fck-up:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11160102
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November 20, 2013 2:35pm
MH

Clint Eastwood as goalie. Them Mechycarnoes wouldn’t stand a chance. But Garth has the mo for it, if only he could pour oil on water (see Psalm 107 KJV) without fracking himself- he just can’t sing” My sister belinda….aye yi yi yi”. What’s an adze worth these days anyways? He’d be better employed defending Rangiriri, the pub not the battleground.
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November 20, 2013 2:36pm
wikiriwhis business

Quote from you tube on comet Ison

The websites I checked said that the tail is “186,000-Mile Long” also described as “a faint ion tail more than 7° long” and this quote “captured by Austrian astrophotographer Michael Jäger, is aligned to highlight the 10 million-mile (16 million-kilometer-long) tail. “The tail of the comet stretches more than 7 degrees across the sky,” Jäger told SpaceWeather.com.””

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbjIZbimaxY
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November 20, 2013 2:46pm
mandk

@ Samuel Smith,
How is that a fck-up?
All that can reasonably be concluded is that the govt got a good price from selling the shares it didn’t need, while still retaining a controlling stake in the company.
Sounds pretty good to me, but then I don’t do lefty economics.
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November 20, 2013 3:03pm
Scott Chris

fuck i hate how they through kiwi at the front of everything

Yeah us Kiwibloggers won’t stand for it.
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November 20, 2013 3:19pm
wikiriwhis business

‘All that can reasonably be concluded is that the govt got a good price from selling the shares it didn’t need, while still retaining a controlling stake in the company.’

There’s a huge bitter aftertaste Wit the ANZ sale which will compound the other sales.

Mums and dads got nothing.

This is why National has stopped selling. to give them breathing space for 2014 hoping the after taste will wear away.

Not going to happen
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November 20, 2013 3:27pm
wikiriwhis business

Bennett has got to go. This is ridiculous. Fascist thought policing

The bill includes compulsory vetting of 376,000 government employees working with children, tougher restrictions on abusive parents, and the child harm prevention orders.

The orders can be slapped on anyone deemed a “high risk” of offending against children for up to 10 years, even if they have never been convicted of an offence.

They could be used to restrict contact with children or places frequented by them, such as schools or swimming pools.

The orders have already been criticised for eroding the presumption of innocence.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9418735/Concern-at-move-against-suspected-child-abusers
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November 20, 2013 3:43pm
Nookin

This concept looks interesting. The argument seems that there should be a basic tariff in relation to any particular sentencing and that this will be multiplied by a factor which is race-based. In the case of Maori, the factor is 0.9. I wonder if anyone is minded to establish a table of race based factors to be applied to the basic tariff?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9422033/Mongrel-Mob-member-seeks-shorter-sentence-for-being-Maori
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November 20, 2013 4:43pm
EverlastingFire

Noonkin – I find it more interesting that the lawyer is pleading that “colonialism” is the primary factor for high Maori imprisonment, yet he fails to mention Maori history of brutal tribalism during and long before colonialism. I would have thought that would be a bigger factor if we’re blaming historical events on an individual’s behavior.
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November 20, 2013 5:07pm
burt

I think we need a quota system for white people in prison. We can just make up the numbers to 85% by locking people up for anything to get the ratio right.
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November 20, 2013 5:09pm
wikiriwhis business

‘I think we need a quota system for white people in prison. We can just make up the numbers to 85% by locking people up for anything to get the ratio right.’

Paula Bennet is working on it right now with thought policing laws.

Big Brother conspiracy is widening
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November 20, 2013 5:14pm
big bruv

“Big Brother conspiracy is widening”

It’s got fuck all to do with me.
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November 20, 2013 5:26pm
MH

It’s not how many brown cells you have its how many brown cells you can build to keep up with the relaxed criteria for entry into these schools of higher learning.
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November 20, 2013 5:42pm
MT_Tinman

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9422033/Mongrel-Mob-member-seeks-shorter-sentence-for-being-Maori

Now the bastards want a bulk discount!
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November 20, 2013 5:53pm
liarbors a joke

Alan Titford…24 years in the clink ?! But if you murder someone you may only get 10 years. NZ ‘justice’ is a sick, sick joke.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9421979/Titford-sentenced-on-rape-and-arson-charges
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November 20, 2013 5:58pm
Viking2

Cat Lover or Not, this is funny !

We’ve all had trouble with our animals, but I don’t think anyone can top this one:

Calling in sick to work makes me uncomfortable. No matter how legitimate my excuse, I always get the feeling that my boss thinks I’m lying.

On one recent occasion, I had a valid reason but lied anyway, because the truth was just too darned humiliating. I simply mentioned that I had sustained a head injury, and I hoped I would feel up to coming in the next day. By then, I reasoned, I could think up a doozy to explain the bandage on the top of my head. The accident occurred mainly because I had given in to my wife’s wishes to adopt a cute little kitty.
Initially, the new acquisition was no problem.

Then one morning, I was taking my shower after breakfast when I heard my wife, Deb, call out to me from the kitchen.

‘Honey! The garbage disposal is dead again. Please come reset it.’

‘You know where the button is,’ I protested through the shower pitter-patter and steam. ‘Reset it yourself!’

‘But I’m scared!’ she persisted. ‘What if it starts going and sucks me in?’

There was a meaningful pause and then, ‘C’mon, it’ll only take you a second.’

So out I came, dripping wet and butt naked, hoping that my silent outraged nudity would make a statement about how I perceived her behavior as extremely cowardly.

Sighing loudly, I squatted down and stuck my head under the sink to find the button. It is the last action I remember performing.

It struck without warning, and without any respect to my circumstances. No, it wasn’t the hexed disposal, drawing me into its gnashing metal teeth. It was our new kitty, who discovered the fascinating dangling objects she spied hanging between my legs. She had been poised around the corner and stalked me as I reached under the sink. And, at the precise moment when I was most vulnerable, she leapt at the toys I unwittingly offered and snagged them with her needle-like claws. I lost all rational thought to control orderly bodily movements, blindly rising at a violent rate of speed, with the full weight of a kitten hanging from my masculine region.

Wild animals are sometimes faced with a ‘fight or flight’ syndrome. Men, in this predicament, choose only the ‘flight’ option. I know this from experience. I was fleeing straight up into the air when the sink and cabinet bluntly and forcefully impeded my ascent.
The impact knocked me out cold.

When I awoke, my wife and the paramedics stood over me.

Now there are not many things in this life worse than finding oneself lying on the kitchen floor butt naked in front of a group of ‘been-there, done-that’ paramedics.
Even worse, having been fully briefed by my wife, the paramedics were all snorting loudly as they tried to conduct their work, all the while trying to suppress their hysterical laughter……and not succeeding.

Somehow I lived through it all. A few days later I finally made it back in to the office, where colleagues tried to coax an explanation out of me about my head injury. I kept silent, claiming it was too painful to talk about, which it was.

‘What’s the matter?’ They all asked, ‘Cat got your tongue?’
If they only knew!
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November 20, 2013 5:58pm
Viking2

A farmer was in a bar drinking and looking all depressed.

His friend asked him why he was looking depressed and he replied, “Some things you just can’t explain. This morning I was milking the cow. As soon as the bucket was filled the cow kicked it down with her left foot so I tied up her left foot to a pole.

I began to fill up the bucket again and she kicked it down with her right foot, so I tied her right foot to a pole too.

As soon as I finished milking her again she knocked down the bucket with her tail, so I took off my belt and tied up her tail with my belt.

As I was tying up her tail, my pants dropped down, then my wife came out and well, trust me, some things you just can’t explain!
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November 20, 2013 5:59pm
Manolo

In bed with the crook Bill. Literally: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/linda-bloodworth-thomason-bill-clinton-657625
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November 20, 2013 6:39pm
Manolo

@MT_Tinman: That Stone Ager deserves nothing less than life behind bars (a bullet would do, of course).
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November 20, 2013 6:41pm
nasska

In recent news Google and Microsoft have agreed to British government proposals to block searches using phrases associated with child pornography.

Although both companies expressed surprise when they learnt that paedophiles frequently use code words like “MP’s expenses” and “government sleaze”.
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November 20, 2013 7:08pm
liarbors a joke

“Christchurch defence lawyer James Rapley said Maori should receive shorter prison sentences because they come from an environment of social deprivation and inequality.”

get fucked James Rapley…
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November 20, 2013 7:09pm
liarbors a joke

…and will somebody tell Bernie Monk we have had enough of his constant moaning and groaning …
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November 20, 2013 7:12pm
Johnboy

Titford should rediscover his murri roots and get the beak to knock his sentence down to 16 years! 🙂
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November 20, 2013 7:16pm
meh

Ipsos are polling at the moment, going by the questions it’s the Green Party/greenpeace who have commissioned it… Lots of poorly framed questions about c02 emissions.
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November 20, 2013 7:17pm
Johnboy

If, like Bernie, I thought I hadn’t milked everybody for all the cash I could lij I would keep on whinging too! 🙂
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November 20, 2013 7:18pm
Johnboy

Where the hell is Red?
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November 20, 2013 7:20pm
Johnboy

Wasn’t Bernie Monk the Pike River Health and Safety officer or am I misinformed?
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November 20, 2013 7:28pm
Johnboy

Thank Christ the moustachioed idiot has sold my Kiwisaver scheme to the Anderton bank! 🙂

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9421395/Gareth-Morgan-comes-out-swinging
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November 20, 2013 7:47pm
nasska

A young journalism student at the University of Tennessee was assigned to write a human interest story, so he went up into the mountains were he found an old farmer sitting on his porch. He introduced himself, explained his mission, and asked, “Has anything ever happened here that made you really happy?”

The farmer thought for a moment, then said, “Yeah, one time my neighbour’s daughter, a fine looking gal, got lost. We formed a posse and went to look for her, and when we found her, we all took turns to screw her.”

“I can’t print that!” the young man exclaimed. “Can’t you think of anything else that happened, which made you happy?”

The farmer thought for a while longer, then smiled. “Yep! One time a neighbour’s sheep got lost. We formed a posse to look for it, and when we found it, we all took turns to screw it.”

Again, the young man said “I can’t print that, either! Let’s try another approach. Has anything ever happened around here that made you really sad?”

The old farmer dropped his head in shame. After a couple of seconds he looked up timidly at the young man and said, “This one time, I got lost…”
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November 20, 2013 8:01pm
stigie

Johnboy says
Where the hell is Red?

We think his Skoda is broken down somewhere Johnboy,

Do you think we should send out a search party, cause his fan base may be getting a bit worried perhaps ?
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November 20, 2013 8:08pm
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9422033/Mongrel-Mob-member-seeks-shorter-sentence-for-being-Maori

This is absolutely fucking absurd.

But scarily when we get our shiny new ‘Constitution’ such things will be commonplace…
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November 20, 2013 8:13pm
nasska

He’s off line having a wank stigie…..would you like to leave a message? 🙂
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November 20, 2013 8:21pm
bereal

The longer this goes on the more worried i get.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11160288

We have to believe in the Jury system, we have no better.

But given what the Jury has asked to review i despair that there may be a traversty
being hatched out.

Lets hope common sense will prevail.
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November 20, 2013 8:28pm
stigie

Yea nah Nasska, he will be back soon enough to tell us what kommie/prog/troll pricks we are !~
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November 20, 2013 8:29pm
big bruv

nasska

“He’s off line having a wank ”

Yep, and you can bet it will be a very conservative wank indeed. I am thinking that Red will have a mental picture of Sarah Palin in his head as he does the deed. Perhaps the fair maiden Palin is standing on her balcony back in Alaska looking over the sea toward Russia which as we all know she can see from her house.
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November 20, 2013 8:31pm
big bruv

bereal

Given that the accused is murri then of course they are weighing up how much colonisation has to do with the crime he committed. I suspect a slap on the wrist is all he will get.
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November 20, 2013 8:33pm
Steve (North Shore)

Red is cruising up and down Marine Parade perving at the talent and looking for a ‘fare’
Redblatter has no time to be on this blog now, he is making money – make hay while the sun shines.
Oh btw he is fundraising for that other Party
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November 20, 2013 8:34pm
nasska

I’ve got a REAL picture here to inspire the deed Big Bruv. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6y4ie184rj7b1f/palin-armed.jpg
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November 20, 2013 8:36pm
stigie

Extremely rootable Nasska if you dont mind Red going first. Wouldnt have to wait long !!
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November 20, 2013 8:39pm
Longknives

Giggity! Sarah Palin is one of my faves….
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November 20, 2013 8:41pm
big bruv

I’d tap that.
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November 20, 2013 8:42pm
nasska

You can deal me out of this hand…..Sarah just doesn’t float my boat. 🙂
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November 20, 2013 8:44pm
Longknives

http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/sarah-palin-love-doll
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November 20, 2013 8:45pm
nasska

You can rent one of those by the hour at your local branch of the CCCP Longknives. 🙂
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November 20, 2013 8:53pm
big bruv

Perhaps that doll might explain Red non appearance on this commie and prog infested blog?
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November 20, 2013 8:57pm
Judith

@ Longknives (3,337) Says:
November 20th, 2013 at 8:13 pm

They’ve been trying that one for years. I surprised it has only just made the papers. I used to get the ‘we will not comply with your instructions because you are a honky’ excuse.

I used to tell them they would be fine, if they didn’t follow my instructions, I would make sure the prison they would go to was built on Maori land.
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November 20, 2013 9:04pm
Judith

@ nasska (8,117) Says:
November 20th, 2013 at 8:21 pm

Is he? I wonder if he is thinking of you or me? 🙂 Ewwwww!
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November 20, 2013 9:06pm
nasska

Judith

Do you know much about the effects of foetal alcohol syndrome on young teenagers? Mate of mine has a boy of thirteen who’s uncontrollable & violent….stabbed his stepmother with a garden fork & went his father with a knife.

Seems that his mother was a heavy drinker….the medical & social experts are blaming his behaviour on that.

Edit:

….”I wonder if he is thinking of you or me?”….

Let’s not go there. 🙂
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November 20, 2013 9:14pm
Judith

@ nasska (8,118) Says:
November 20th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

It’s hard to know, that sort of behaviour could be because of many things, including FAS.

Children affected by FAS can also have physical symptoms, I know one is ‘walking on tip toes’ when a toddler, and a stubby nose that is not characteristic within the family. If he mother drank heavily whilst pregnant, then it could be the cause, although so could being raised by an alcoholic mother, if she let her drinking interfere with her parenting.

The problem is that FAS has become the ‘popular’ excuse, just like ADHD was a few years back. The concern is the age, does he have a history of violence towards others? Does it come with a loss of temper? There are so many signs that can be associated with many things. Sorry, not much help – but the father should make sure he gets an informed diagnosis, and a second opinion before he allows his child to receive chemical assistance, e.g. retilin.
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November 20, 2013 9:24pm
Engineer

Alan Titford…24 years in the clink ?! But if you murder someone you may only get 10 years. NZ ‘justice’ is a sick, sick joke.

Sure does. Titford sounds like a reprehensible character, but he is getting seven years more than even Clayton Weatherston.

And what if you have a falling out with your missus and she makes all sorts of claims —over two decades in prison???????

Or is it 24 years in total, with part of the sentences to run concurrently? Sometimes the NZ Herald articles are appallingly unclear – specially those written by women journalists –who tend to lack rigor in their reporting.

Or am I missing something here? Can someone fill us in a bit more about the case?
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November 20, 2013 9:31pm
Johnboy

Jeeze I’m confused. When I wake up in the morning feeling all sticky I can never work out if it was Yvette, Diana, Penny, Michelle, Sarah, Judith, Bronagh, Anne, Judith, Lucia or Red that visited me the night before! 🙂
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November 20, 2013 9:34pm
Johnboy

Shit 69 to go! 🙂

One of my very lucky numbers! 🙂
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November 20, 2013 9:35pm
nasska

The social workers are taking the matter fairly seriously Judith. The last I heard they were trying to find a bed for him at a residential facility that has a good record of sorting kids like this out. The chemical route has been travelled to no avail.

The boy has an incredibly short fuse…..he loses it for the most trivial of provocation. He’ll have a go at anything or anyone. Parents, grandparents, siblings, neighbours…..even the youth aid officer. With the damage he does at thirteen what will happen if he doesn’t get sorted out before adulthood worries everyone.
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November 20, 2013 9:35pm
stigie

It was Red Johnboy. Confusion over !
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November 20, 2013 9:37pm
Judith

@ Engineer

When someone commits murder, it is usually an emotional spur of the moment thing, and there is only one victim (plus family who are affected).
In the case of Titford, his crime was prolonged, rationally planned, and a deliberate prolonged and well thought out period of offending, which involved deliberate dishonesty. There were also a large number of victims, which he knew, deceived and lied to, encouraging them to invest even more money in a scheme that he knew could not succeed. He knew the circumstances of their lives and investments, and had time to consider what his offending would do to them, but didn’t. His actions, whilst not violent, were callous and calculated to hurt many people. That is why he has such a long sentence. Although he didn’t take a life, he destroyed the chances of many.
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