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Griff

No kow tow pg is right it is illegal to have a fire arm in New Zealand for self defence Farmers have them for pest control 😉
Cams attitude and posts on the subject could get him in trouble. He is not a fit and proper person to have a firearms licence if he intends using one for property defence. PG is not talking of change in the present law just noting that Cam is in violation of the present arms act by his statements.

nasska my boxer is a softy but with the two words whos that he is not
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September 28, 2012 2:46pm
Colville

Re Dogs.
Down south a mate who I pig hunt with had a problem with his boots getting flogged off the porch. He is a farmer in the boonies and wears $1000 La Sportiva hi top climbing boots coz he has fucked ankles from pig hunting injuries while at work. Anyways on night a neighbour phones and says they have seen a ~~darkie~~ intruder walking down the private road. He releases the pig dogs. Intruder is left up a tree all night until police get him in moring. Waihopai valley in winter, musta been chilly 🙂
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September 28, 2012 2:48pm
nasska

PG

The changes I would like to see would allow a person to be armed at all times on their own property (at least). This would include side arms but I’d stop short of the American custom of including sub machine guns in a home arsenal.

But most of all I would like to see the law tweaked to allow vigorous self defence, armed or otherwise, without the guarantee of being bankrupted & put through the stress of a trial for injuring/killing some arsehole who decided that crime was preferable to work.
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September 28, 2012 2:48pm
Colville

oh young chap had been flogging boots and selling them at cash converters for $30 a pair.
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September 28, 2012 2:49pm
nasska

Colville

1) Regrettably I can’t but it will have happened. Police policy seems to be to prosecute in all cases & let the courts sort it out. All very good & proper but good QCs don’t come cheap! Someone else may recall instances.

2)…..”We can even let one survivor go free!”…..

Very sporting! 🙂
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September 28, 2012 2:54pm
Manolo

… I say we lock them in a large ring like structure, lets call it a colloseum for fun, and give them bats and sticks and shields and release some lions.

How do you dare to say that, colville?
Your insensitivity and cruelty towards fellow human beings are beyond the pale and offend me greatly 🙂
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September 28, 2012 2:56pm
Pete George

kowtow/Manolo – discussions tend to evolve and move on. I stand by everything I’ve said from the start. I still think it’s nuts to comment – on potentially permanent public record – about how tough you might be with a shotgun.

I remember a few years ago when someone on KB was mouthing off about what they would do with something like a side by side pump action shotgun. They shut up when someone pointed out the absurdity.
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September 28, 2012 2:57pm
Colville

Yes let a survivor go free. Its all about insentive to do better.
Within a year they will have a gameshow and book deal and be paying taxes 🙂
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September 28, 2012 3:04pm
bereal

Pete George @ 2.57

Give up mate.

You are making a bigger and bigger fool of yourself.

And as for your post at 8.39 today. Pompous, priggish, condecending, knowitall, superior, up yourself, self important.

You choose.
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September 28, 2012 3:09pm
kowtow

pistol pete started off with , I’m not a fence sitter, look I’m in trouble over at WO and don’t promote irresponsible violence on the internet and then as the tide went out on him “evolved” (like Obbie ) into don’t lose your license…..
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September 28, 2012 3:10pm
thedavincimode

Its all over the globe.

Yes, and has been for some time. Great to have you on board.
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September 28, 2012 3:12pm
thedavincimode

nasska

But surely you keep pigs?? (Warning, remove the gumboots and dispose of them separately.)
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September 28, 2012 3:14pm
Pete George

nasska – I sympathise with what you’re getting at, I’ve lived a lot in the country, but I don’t think we can allow ‘protection and self defence’ to go open slather and unexamined by the legal process. Far too easily abused and overused.

How do you envisage it, allowing a ‘shoot on sight’ endorsement on firearm licenses? Or anyone and anything is fair game? If the latter then we’d have to accept that as well as many good and sensible people there are plenty of thugs and would be thugs if they got half a chance.
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September 28, 2012 3:15pm
nasska

thedavincimode

Usually have a couple of weaners on the property…..I’m sure that they’d dine quite happily on an intruder but it would probably take a few sittings, at least until they were over five months.

Good advice re the gumboots….it’s always the details that good schemes founder upon. 🙂
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September 28, 2012 3:24pm
Colville

davinci, in the words of Brick Top

“And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it’s no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies’ digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don’t want to go sievin’ through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, “as greedy as a pig”.
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September 28, 2012 3:25pm
nasska

PG

Interesting points but like anything, if there were changes made there would be ample opportunity to cover loopholes. The thing to remember is that self defense is allowed now…..it is the stress, uncertainty & expense required to prove it that I have objections to.

Don’t neglect the fact that ‘violence’ short of actually killing an offender will drop a homeowner into hot water too. The law effectively ties the hands of a victim of crime & turns an innocent resident otherwise going about their own business into a criminal until a court decides otherwise.

My sympathies lie totally with the person who didn’t invite trouble but is potentially in deep shit by reacting instinctively.
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September 28, 2012 3:39pm
bereal

Jeez Pete.
In a hole, stop digging.

Who, in your mind is advocating, ‘ shoot on sight.’ ?

Ascribing specious argument to your opponent is pathetic.

Who is advocating ” Shoot on sight.” ?

put up or shut up.

like i said , pathetic.

By the way. Try and develop a sense of humour.
It would do types like you a world of good.
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September 28, 2012 3:58pm
Pete George

bereal, I have a sense of humour, I’m laughing at you diving into the end of a discussion without quarter of a clue. But not much, you’re a quarter wit.

And it’s also funny when you accuse others of being pathetic.

put up or shut up.

But that’s not funny, is it? You sound deadly serious. Or what?
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September 28, 2012 4:29pm
thedavincimode

Colville

Hmm. Good point re the teeth. As nasska suggests, it’s all in the detail.
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September 28, 2012 4:36pm
bereal

Rather than just abusing me, why not just attempt to address the question ?

Who, other than you, in a pathetic attempt to score a pathetic point, has advocated, shoot on sight ?
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September 28, 2012 4:41pm
Pete George

Rather than just abusing me, why not just attempt to address the question ?

Haha, funny again. You dived into the discussion at 3.09 with all guns blazing and no attempt to address the topic. And then you throw a wee hissy when I share a joke, after you asked me to have a sense of humour.

beweal, have a think about the whole conversation.

If we relaxed the laws on ‘defending one’s castle and wife’ and didn’t legally examine any incidences of shotgun or 4×2 inflicted injuries what’s to stop someone shooting on sight and claiming they feared for their property or safety?

It’s bloody difficult for people living in rural areas where thieves are active.

But it’s also very difficult to get a legal balance that allows reasonable self protection but adequately holds to account people who react unreasonably.
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September 28, 2012 5:06pm
my 2 cents

James Stephenson (1,129) Says:
September 28th, 2012 at 10:52 am

A close friend was stationed in London with SOE19 up to last year, some days they had AO callouts every 7 mins.
Getting handguns is easy, though knives still get used more so far.
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September 28, 2012 5:11pm
Longknives

“By the time they arrived the offenders had well gone but what if they hadn’t? Are we supposed to die so your precious criminal mates can wander around safely?”

That’s the point Nasska. The ‘Civil Rights’ of criminal scum who would attack civilians in their own homes are far more important to loopy lefties than the rights of those homeowners not to be raped, murdered etc..
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September 28, 2012 5:16pm
my 2 cents

PG
Have you ever attended a rape or serious assault?
Have you ever supported someone who is terrified of being alone or going out into public because of being traumatised by an assault or robbery or murder?
Have you ever had someone threaten you or shoot at you whilst in the commission of a crime?
Have you ever shot someone in the commission of a crime?
Have you ever spent a day with Garth McVicar when he is with victims of serious crime?

Please let me know that you can answer yes to one or more of my questions.
Apart from shaking his hand and saying hello, I have never spent a day with Garth McVicar, but would consider it an honour to do so, and I’d buy him lunch to boot.
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September 28, 2012 5:16pm
my 2 cents

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/27/full-transcript-prime-minister-netanyahu-speech-to-united-nations-general-assembly-2012-video/

Get some.
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September 28, 2012 5:18pm
Longknives

my 2 cents- I’ve met Garth McVicar and he is a genuinely nice bloke with honest and good intentions.
It astounds me that the media and certain political parties give him such a tough ride…
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September 28, 2012 5:21pm
Steve (North Shore)

Pete,

You’ve been sitting on the fence with your arse twitching all day in case you make a comment that may encourage someone to blow a drug fucked thief off the planet. Even to the point of reminding people about losing thier gun license.
Here is a picture for you
http://neveryetmelted.com/2008/01/19/latest-object-of-british-gun-control/
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September 28, 2012 5:31pm
bereal

Dear Pete George,

Why are you unable to address the question i posed @ 3.58 ?

Why do you need to abuse me by bastardising my non de plume ?

I’ll try once again.

Who bought up, ‘Shoot on sight.” and ascribed it to your opponent ?

Was it you ?

Why would you do such a dishonest thing Pete ?

Are you desperate ?
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September 28, 2012 5:31pm
Reid

Read it and weep, all you Islamaphobes:

http://theintelhub.com/2012/09/26/embassy-attack-and-ambassador-stevens-death-linked-to-department-of-homeland-security-propaganda/
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September 28, 2012 5:49pm
MH

The Swiss have about 170,000 military style rifles in their homes. perhaps having a relatively homogeneous population helps. Since by memory some chap went off and killed some body/persons they no longer keep ammo at home. respect for ones country and weapons in general comes with training. Prior to WWI NZ was considered the most militaristic country in the world,and but for the 1930’s depression we would have continued in that vein.
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September 28, 2012 5:55pm
Reid

One thing Islamphobes seem unable to answer is: how come the west use Al-Qa-ida to further the ends in those ME states they decide to overthrow? I’ve asked the question before, but no-one seems to have an answer. I mean I thought the ‘war on terror’ was against Al-Qa-ida? Isn’t that what we’ve been told? Of course it is. Anyway, this is a good backgrounder to Syria, as it was some months ago.

http://deanhenderson.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/zionists-use-al-qaeda-to-attack-syria/

Prior to WWI NZ was considered the most militaristic country in the world,

Really? Do you have anything more on that MH. I’m not disputing, I’m just interested.
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September 28, 2012 6:19pm
bereal

Cut to the chase.

is there any correspondent reading this blog today that would argue with the fact that Pete George
is a whining, two faced, pathetic apologist who tries to curry favour by appealing to both sides of
any given argument ?

This appologist even asks for consideration because he sits on both sides of every fence.

Pathetic Pete.
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September 28, 2012 6:22pm
Kevin

Omfg now the stinker Geoffrey palmer has waded into the Kim Dot Com saga.
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September 28, 2012 6:25pm
Steve (North Shore)

I wouldn’t go that far bereal, but poor Pete dug a huge hole today
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September 28, 2012 6:39pm
nasska

And now for a health tip.

Ref: http://imgur.com/gallery/eqRW6
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September 28, 2012 7:04pm
Pete George

bereal, if you come on here with starting with abuse don’t whimper if a bit gets thrown back at you.

Why have you accused me of being dishonest? That seems like unsubstantiated abuse.

Don’t get precious about someone not jumping to your demands to answer your questions, you rarely seem to answer questions put to you.

If you had followed the thread you would known it’s related to one on Whale Oil. Have you read through that?

Stuart:
If there is an intruder, then there is a chance that they will harm me or my family no matter how innocent and ‘ only stealing ‘ they may look. Even if that chance is 1 in 1000 I would rather kill them than risk it. Attitudes like mineand otherson this blog are the only thing that stops criminals running even more rampant than they do

phronesis:
The last bit is the interesting bit. I don’t go wandering around at night in the country without a loaded weapon so it seems reasonable to me that other people do the same. If I come across someone on my property at night it thus follows that they are probably armed. Given I don’t know how many or how skilled they are I will take what ever opportunities arise to protect myself and my family.

There are people who think they should have the right to shoot in any circumstances.

And it seems to keep escaping you – the point I was actually making is that if we relaxed our laws so that there was no investigation of any private property shootings or assaults then it could effectively allow shooting on sight, and some people don’t seem to need much encouragement to do exactly that..
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September 28, 2012 7:09pm
Pete George

bereal at 6.22, it didn’t take you long to get back to your abuse persona, did it. You obviously don’t get the irony of ‘sitting on the fence’. It was a dig at people like you who accuse me of sitting on the fence when I’m prepared obviously to challenge the populist gungho bullshit that you seem to jump on board with. And then you proved my point.

Steve, I’m not the one who’s dug holes. Those publicly claiming a willingness to break firearm laws are the ones who’ve compromised themselves, as a number of people have pointed out. If the police identified any it would rule them ineligible to hold a firearm license. And if they ended up in court on assault or firearm charges it wouldn’t help their case to hear they are into loose fingered bravado.
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September 28, 2012 7:20pm
Manolo

P.G., just stop digging. Hug a Muslim instead.
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September 28, 2012 7:21pm
nasska

PG

…”if we relaxed our laws so that there was no investigation of any private property shootings or assaults then it could effectively allow shooting on sight,”….

I think you may be stretching a little there Pete. Doubtlessly there are some who type tough but when push comes to shove would they do it?

At the moment I would suggest that most consider the law to be out of step with commonsense. We are a long way off demanding legislation that would see the meter reader wearing body armour but we would like some sort of indemnity against automatic prosecution if some arsehole gets damaged while breaking into our homes or threatening our lives.

Just a reinterpretation of the present law would probably suffice at a pinch.
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September 28, 2012 7:24pm
Manolo

The drama goes on: http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/09/27/in-europe-reality-has-set-in-again/
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September 28, 2012 7:26pm
tom hunter

populist gungho bullshit

The “populist” message in this country is that anybody with a firearm is likely to be a “nutter”. As usual you’re not exactly facing down the crowd here.

Those publicly claiming a willingness to break firearm laws are the ones who’ve compromised themselves, as a number of people have pointed out. If the police identified any it would rule them ineligible to hold a firearm license. And if they ended up in court on assault or firearm charges it wouldn’t help their case to hear they are into loose fingered bravado.

Clap ……. clap ……. clap

Those have actually been people who’ve expressed – some with passion, some with calmness – the thought that they would shoot an intruder in their house if they judged the situation to be dangerous enough to warrant such an awful action. I think that may even include you, based on your statements.

And what is the result? That simply expressing such thoughts and arguments is enough to allow the Police to remove all firearms from their possession.

I have no doubt that you would very strongly reject the assertion that this makes you, and others who make such implied threats, a totalitarian, possibly a fascist. But the terrible truth is that that type of thinking is how those things got rolling among the populations – surely a “populist” threat worth worrying about.

I will leave you with this argument from an American woman lawyer about guns rights in the USA and what they increasingly mean to woman in that country – and what it will mean if the finely balanced 5-4 majorities on the Supreme Court are reversed. I will not argue that similar situations apply here, but her opening scene is a true and recent story:

“I’m here by myself with my infant baby,” the slight, 18-year-old widow told the 911 dispatcher. Two burly men, armed and dangerous, were breaking down the door to her remote rural home.

Sarah McKinley faced impossible odds. The police could not arrive in time to save her. One week earlier, her husband had died of cancer.

The violent intruders wanted McKinley’s leftover prescription drugs. One of them was a drug addict.

“It was either going to be him or my son,” McKinley later said. “And it wasn’t going to be my son.”

The men broke down the door, one of them brandishing a foot-long hunting knife.

McKinley fired, averting a tragic ending to a harrowing experience. The other intruder fled.

Guns make women safer. It’s an uncomfortable fact for opponents of the Second Amendment. Most violent offenders actually do not use firearms, which makes guns the great equalizer.
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September 28, 2012 7:40pm
kowtow

PG@1028 “And I’d be as sympathetic to mongrel burglars as I am to bitches of blogs like you”

And he talks of abuse?

Passive /aggressive?
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September 28, 2012 7:42pm
Griff

In the early days of the CIA world facts book https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nz.html
gave the armed force of New Zealand as the entire population 😆 many of us are well skilled in bush craft and we would make a formidable guerilla army with little extra training
our gun per capita is 22nd in the world at 22.6 per 100. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
Our laws have the balance between sporting ownership and criminal ownership about right look at the Iti and co trying to acquire guns their activity came to the notice of the law and they were unable to arm them selfs effectively within attracting notice.
Pg’s concern at cams attitude is justified there is not a large criminal fraternity going around shooting innocents in this country and we do not want to set of an escalating arms race between criminals the police and the public.
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September 28, 2012 7:55pm
Viking2

Reuters just came out with a story that General Motors (GM: 23.18, -0.21, -0.90%) is losing $49,000 per Volt sold. This is not overly surprising, as a new product often loses until scale is developed. However, this loss is well more than the car’s base price of $39,000.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/09/10/producing-cars-and-losses-nobody-wants/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz27kVwaiqS
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September 28, 2012 7:59pm
nasska

One fine day in Ireland, a guy is out golfing and gets up to the 16th hole. He tees up and cranks one. Unfortunately, it goes into the woods on the side of the fairway.He goes looking for his ball and comes across this little guy with this huge knot on his head and the golf ball lying right beside him.
‘Goodness,’ says the golfer then proceeds to revive the poor little guy.

Upon awakening, the little guy says, ‘Well, you caught me fair and square. I am a leprechaun. I will grant you three wishes.’

The man says ‘I can’t take anything from you, I’m just glad I didn’t hurt you too badly,’ and walks away.

Watching the golfer depart, the leprechaun says ‘Well, he was a nice enough guy, and he did catch me, so I have to do something for him. I’ll give him the three things that I would want. I’ll give him unlimited money, a great golf game, and a great sex life.’

Well, a year goes past and the same golfer is out golfing on the same course at the 16th hole. He gets up and hits one into the same woods and goes off looking for his ball.

When he finds the ball he sees the same little guy and asks how he is doing. The leprechaun says, ‘I’m fine, and might I ask how’s your golf game?’

The golfer says, ‘It’s great! I hit under par every time.’

‘I did that for you,’ responds the leprechaun, ‘And might I ask how your money is holding out?’

‘Well, now that you mention it, every time I put my hand in my pocket, I pull out a hundred dollar bill’ he replied.

The leprechaun smiles and says, ‘I did that for you. And might I ask how is your sex life?’ Now the golfer looks at him a little shyly and says, ‘Well, maybe once or twice a week.’

Floored the leprechaun stammers, ‘Once or twice a week?’

The golfer looks at him sheepishly and says, ‘Well, that’s not too bad for a Catholic priest in a small parish.’
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September 28, 2012 8:00pm
Steve (North Shore)

Pete,
“Steve, I’m not the one who’s dug holes. Those publicly claiming a willingness to break firearm laws are the ones who’ve compromised themselves, as a number of people have pointed out. If the police identified any it would rule them ineligible to hold a firearm license. And if they ended up in court on assault or firearm charges it wouldn’t help their case to hear they are into loose fingered bravado.”

‘If the Police’

Come on Pete, you are behaving like the hall monitor. Those bravados who comment are winding people like you up. Hook, line sinker and your arm Pete.
Try and get away from the legal shit and think if you were in that situation with a deranged fuckwit calling the shots (sic)
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September 28, 2012 8:04pm
Kevin

Yes there was the case in the uk of the farmer who got done for shooting a slime-ball breaking,into,his house. The fact that, he had mouth off about defending himself was used against him.
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September 28, 2012 8:13pm
Johnboy

As I was getting into bed the other night, my wife told me I had left the light on in the garage. She could see light coming through the bedroom window. As I got up to shut the curtain (rather than go outside to shut off the stupid light), I saw there were 2 guys taking things from my garage. I immediately called 111, but was told that they didn’t have anyone “in the area at this time,” but would send someone over as soon as possible. I said OK, hung up, and waited one minute. Then I called 111 again. I said, “I called you a minute ago because there was someone in my garage. Well, you don’t have to worry about that now because I just shot them.”

Within two minutes there were 3 copcars in front of my house, a AOS van
and the dog squad.

They immediately apprehended the burglars. However, the Inspector was
really mad & said “I thought you said you’d shot them!”

I replied, “I thought you said there was nobody available.”
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September 28, 2012 8:42pm
nasska

I thought my cat was miraculously starting to speak Welsh the other day.

Turned out she was just hacking up a fur ball.
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September 28, 2012 8:48pm
Johnboy

Griff could have told you that nasska! 🙂
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September 28, 2012 8:49pm
chiz

Reid:One thing Islamphobes seem unable to answer is: how come the west use Al-Qa-ida to further the ends in those ME states they decide to overthrow? I’ve asked the question before, but no-one seems to have an answer. I mean I thought the ‘war on terror’ was against Al-Qa-ida?

The west isn’t using al-qaida. This is just conspiracy rubbish.
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September 28, 2012 8:50pm
nasska

I’ve thrown out the baited hook JB…..should get a bite anytime now. 🙂
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September 28, 2012 8:51pm
Johnboy

Griff is a wee bit slow nasska. He was born in a little Welsh village called Llandyfnod! 🙂
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September 28, 2012 9:02pm
Griff

dont fod yn shager defaid gwirion
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September 28, 2012 9:11pm
Tauhei Notts

I just heard at my club this evening that Tatua Co op Dairy Co Ltd announced their 2012 payout. It is $7.50 compared to Fonterra’s $6.40.
My mate’s farm pumps through 280,000 kg of milksolids. He says;
“If, instead of being on the banks of the Maungakaumia Stream I was on the other side of the Waiharakeke Stream, just four kilometres away, my after tax income would be $200,000 per year higher.”
But, I said, you have ignored the significant tax free portion included in their 20th May 2012 payout. The difference would be higher!
Then I thought; what a huge difference it would make to our country’s prosperity if Auckland based Fonterra was run as efficiently as Morrinsville based Tatua.
Then I reminded my mate, Dave, that he has $1,265,600 in Fonterra shares, whereas if he had supplied Tatua he would only need $700,000 worth of shares. The after tax interest on that $565,000 tied up funds pays for a hell of a lot of fishing boat fuel.
Then I went home and scrutinised the N.Z. Herald. It had no mention whatsoever of yesterday’s Tatua announcement. I am not talking here about asparagus growers. I am talking about our nation’s biggest industry. And an announcement, which Kiwibloggers read about first on this site, was not deemed to be newsworthy. Un be fucking lievable!
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September 28, 2012 9:13pm
Tauhei Notts

Sorry,
Yesterday’s announcement finally made it to the Stuff site at 4.01 p.m. today.
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September 28, 2012 9:18pm
Johnboy

“Twll dy dîn di!” 🙂
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September 28, 2012 9:25pm
nasska

I’m sure that they always meant to get around to the payout news Tauhei. It was probably just a matter of a few press releases from Labour & the Greens that had to be published first. 🙂
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September 28, 2012 9:29pm
Griff

Woman in labour, shouting and screaming as usual, ‘get this out of me,
give me drugs’.

She turns to the boyfriend and says ‘You did this to me you bugger’.
He replied casually,

‘If you remember, I wanted to stick it up your a*se but you said,
‘frig off it’ll be too painful’,
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September 28, 2012 9:34pm
nasska

Just got back from visiting a lovely little place in Wales;
Lloysthwycyyrigridarbrewwthh… sorry there was a hair in my mouth.

I went to Swansea.
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September 28, 2012 9:35pm
Griff

I got in touch with my inner self today.

That’s the last time I buy warehouse Value toilet roll.
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September 28, 2012 9:47pm
Johnboy

Dai and Blodwyn were engaged to be married. Dai was sent by his company to London on a two-week sales training course. The course was fine but the evenings were boring and by the second week Dai was fed up with sitting around in his hotel bedroom and went down to the bar for a few drinks where he met a couple of girls of the night, who enticed him into spending his money.

On returning home Dai’s conscience got the better of him and he broke down and confessed to Blodwyn that he had been unfaithful to her twice.

Blodwyn said she was glad Dai had been so honest – she too had to confess that she had been unfaithful twice whilst Dai had been away… once with the Tredegar Male Voice Choir and once with the Ebbw Vale RFC first XV.
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September 28, 2012 9:55pm
Johnboy

What do you get if you cross the Welsh Rugby Union with an OXO cube?
A laughing stock.

Have you heard about the festival celebrated by welsh Muslims?
It’s called Ramalamb.

I went to Cardiff last week and had a run in with the Taffia, the welsh branch of the Mafia;
They made me an offer I couldn’t understand…

An Englishman, welshman and west indian are in hospital, waiting for their wives to give birth. There is quite a bit of pacing up and down when the nurse comes out and happily announces that they are all fathers of bouncing baby boys.

“There’s just one problem,” she says. “Because they were all born at the same time, we got the tags mixed up and we don’t know which baby belongs to whom. Would you, as their fathers, mind coming to identify them?” The men agree and walk into the delivery room and look at the babies.

Immediately the Englishman stoops down and picks up the black baby. “Yes, this is definitely my baby,” he says confidently.
“Um, excuse me,” says the west indian, “but I think it’s fairly obvious that this is my son.”
The Englishman pulls him aside and says, “I see where you’re coming from, mate, but one of these babies is welsh and I’m not prepared to take the risk.”
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September 28, 2012 10:04pm
Griff

I confessed to my girlfriend that I’d lost my previous job as a primary school teacher for having sex with someone in my care.

She was horrified- “Oh my GOD! You’re a paedo, get the hell away from me!”

I replied quickly “No I phrased that badly, I didn’t have sex with one of the children”

“Oh thank God for that.” she said in relief.

“But I am banned from keeping rabbits for ten years” I added.
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September 28, 2012 10:09pm
OneTrack

longknives @ 5:21 “I’ve met Garth McVicar and he is a genuinely nice bloke with honest and good intentions.
It astounds me that the media and certain political parties give him such a tough ride…”

It is because they are all lefties and that means they have to be sympathetic to the poor people on the wront side of the law. Look it probably the policieman fault for picking on them anyway. One of the way around the “problem” that makes them all feel better is to let them off with a whack with a wet bus ticket. Garth McVicar is “bad” because he suggests the lawbreakers should actually serve a sentence relevant to the crime. And you cant do that because they are good boys really. They have only had 42 convictions and that isnt “really” bad is it? You do know its all because of colonisation dont you, so its not really their fault anyway.
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September 28, 2012 10:17pm
OneTrack

Read @ 5:49 “Read it and weep, all you Islamaphobes”

Ok so instead of muslims raping and killing Chris Stevens because of a youtube video, the real story is that muslims raped and killed Chris Stevens because the video was shown in a movie theatre. And it was shown more than once. Oh the horror. Move than once.

That explains it all then. Islam is really the religion of peace and we should encourage more to move here so we can share in their innovative ideas about peace. How silly of me to doubt.
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September 28, 2012 10:28pm
OneTrack

reid @ 6:19 – “I mean I thought the ‘war on terror’ was against Al-Qa-ida?”

Well you were wrong then. The war-on-terror was the name given to the level of response that was now deemed required to respond to terrorism. Alqaida is only one of the “enemies” in this war. There are others.
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September 28, 2012 10:41pm
Luc Hansen

OneTrack is correct. The war these days is against “patterns of behaviour’. As we all have them, we are all in trouble. Listen for the drone, coming one day to the sky above you.

And all the while the coldly analytical POTUS slides his eyes each morning down a list of those posing an ‘imminent risk’ – even though they may have been an ‘imminent risk’ for months or even years- and points a finger at one…kaboom!

Meanwhile, Cartoon Bibi goes to town with a…cartoon image of a bomb! Poor Bibi, snookered by the Mad Mullahs, desperately casting about looking for support so he may once more indulge his lust for blood and being greeted with a deafening silence from the man who matters most.

Oh well
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September 28, 2012 11:04pm
my 2 cents

and then you woke up LUC?
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September 28, 2012 11:36pm
my 2 cents

http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2012/05/why-are-bernard-lewiss-views-on-mad.html

http://www.madisdead.blogspot.co.il/2012/09/matthias-kuntzel-antisemitism_8.html

Here LUC & Reid you’re always complaining about the standard of argument against you, heres so good nosh.
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September 28, 2012 11:38pm
Luc Hansen

Hey 2 bob’s worth…

Almost no-one argues against me…I just get personal abuse.
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September 29, 2012 12:50am
my 2 cents

and then you woke up again?
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September 29, 2012 5:45am
my 2 cents

http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/muhammad-and-talmud-a-dangerous-double-standard/

alright here you go LUC.
Lets see you defend the Talmud 🙂
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September 29, 2012 5:46am
Manolo

Can you imagine P.G.’s outrage? Even more if the executed were Muslims.
http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8540345/eu-deplores-japan-executions
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September 29, 2012 6:32am
Manolo

Lucy would be pleased with this “victory” for socialism:
The package aims to narrow France’s deficit to 3.0 percent of national output next year from 4.5 percent this year, bringing in 30 billion euros ($39 billion) for the treasury.

But the budget dismayed business by opting for tax hikes — including a 75 percent tax on those earning over one million euros a year — by holding public spending and not cutting government jobs.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/28/us-france-budget-idUSBRE88R0AK20120928
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September 29, 2012 6:59am
Pete George

Manolo, why don’t you say what you think rather than trying to assume or insinuate other people’s opinions? I’m capable of expressing my own opinion a lot more accurately than your ‘imagination’.

Be brave and speak for yourself, and let others express their own views.
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September 29, 2012 7:15am
MH

re the executions in Japan the comment was that the USA and Japan are the only 2 industralised countries to carry out executions,thank goodness our ally China is not included.
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September 29, 2012 1:11pm
Fletch

WASHINGTON (TheBlaze/AP) — The Obama administration’s plan to transfer $450 million in cash to Egypt hit a roadblock Friday as a top House committee chairwoman blocked the move, saying it warrants further review.

That would seem the sensible thing to do.
Is Obama dumb or just reckless?
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