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kowtow

Steve north shore

Life in society is a wee bit more nuanced than that.
I agree there’s a huge element of personal responsibilty and darwinism involved in drugs /huffing but in relation to knowingly/willingly selling dangerous products to minors there ‘s a huge elemnet of personal morality and responsiblity too.
Butane and kronic in particular.

I suspect that back in the day the friendly dairy owner did give a shit. Today,not so much.
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September 15, 2012 6:34pm
SGA

@chiz – LOL – that’s cute.
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September 15, 2012 6:34pm
Luc Hansen

steve

You appear to have missed my point by exactly illustrating my point.

Times change.
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September 15, 2012 6:48pm
Steve (North Shore)

kowtow @ 6.34
How does the friendly dairy owner know if the purchaser is a huffer/fuckwit/drug addict/loser? The friendly dairy owner is running a business, not a fucking hand wringing touchy feely cuddle giving drop in place
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September 15, 2012 6:48pm
Kevin

Its an opportunistic neotribal capitalist land grab by people who are about 10% Maori with no real link to their past. http://www.nzcpr.com/guest305.htm
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September 15, 2012 7:02pm
Pete George

It’s not just Greenpeace talking about the Arctic ice melt.

Arctic ice is melting at previously unseen rates, already reaching the United Nations’ anticipated ice levels for 2040.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/arctic-ice.htm

Following the new record low recorded on August 26, Arctic sea ice extent continued to drop and is now below 4.00 million square kilometers (1.54 million square miles). Compared to September conditions in the 1980s and 1990s, this represents a 45% reduction in the area of the Arctic covered by sea ice. At least one more week likely remains in the melt season.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Whatever the cause/s this is measured change that is more rapid than predicted.
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September 15, 2012 7:03pm
Griff

You don’t own water luc you can not use it and retain the ownership once it is flushed sprinkled or evaporated it no longer is yours
you can store water in which case you have a right to use it the Maori can claim a right to store water or use water they can not own the water in the natural system its not possible
All the claims are is an attempt to tax 85% of the population for the benefit of a few of the broocrocy
Unfortunately for the moari they signed into English common law and the crown has the rights over the resource
Great thing about the tyranty of the majority in a democracy is we hold the power and Maori are not going to change that if we dont let them
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September 15, 2012 7:07pm
Steve (North Shore)

Kevin,
I just wish I could find a small part – like 1/512 of Moari bloodline in me, then I would start claiming.
Unfortunately I will pay, and pay, and pay, and pay for fucking ever
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September 15, 2012 7:08pm
Kevin

You’d still see nothing. My wife is 1/16 and children are 1/32 and all they see is the occasional $500 scholarship, out of the $ 1 trillion already donated by the hard working taxpayer. My grandmother in law got diddled out of $100,000 of her settlement by the iwi, even though it was her name on the title. That’s how much respect they have for private property rights.
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September 15, 2012 7:16pm
Griff

You dont need blood all you need is to identify
W Peters made the comment a few days ago
hahhahhahha we could get 100,000 like minded kiwis onto the moari roll and vote the seats gone
ngta Griff any one
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September 15, 2012 7:18pm
Luc Hansen

All the claims are is an attempt to tax 85% of the population for the benefit of a few of the broocrocy

That’s rich, Griff.

What have we been doing to Maori ever since we decided to appropriate their land and resources? Have we not been imposing a unilateral tax on Maori?

And you guys all keep inventing self-serving concepts designed to entrench dispossession.

Like invoking time-elapse limitation.

Well, Israel was created at least partly on the (false) justification of returning to lands they supposedly left 2000 or 3000 (depending on the version) years ago, so 150 odd years is just a speck in the dust of time, surely.

Maori Spring has a nice ring.
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September 15, 2012 7:20pm
Griff

We brought and paid for most of the land luc sometimes more than once
You may think that the Palestinians would be better off without Israel
few Palestinians in Israel would agree with you witness the huge gulf between israel and the rest of the middle east
And if you looked into it few productive maori believe that they would be better of without us
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September 15, 2012 7:27pm
Manolo

According to TV3 “in a few years there will be no ice in the Arctic for the first time after thousands of years“.
Today’s news. Fucking unbelievable.
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September 15, 2012 7:30pm
Kevin

Now it’s time for our spring – who speaks for us -the hardworking taxpayer who has to pay for all this govt crap. Doug graham is an example of the “honourable men” who gave it all away to the wealthy iwi elite. Now you can see the true calibre of the people working on our behalf.
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September 15, 2012 7:32pm
Pete George

Test time.

I prefer the Maori version of the anthem because I don’t know what the words mean.
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September 15, 2012 7:33pm
Luc Hansen

But sounds better, Pete.
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September 15, 2012 7:39pm
Reid

But then along came Pakeha and introduced new concepts of ownership, especially that of individual ownership, and now it appears no-one owns the water (except the white man who has set up water capturing/reticulation systems, of course, but let’s leave that to one side).

So now Maori have had over 150 years to adapt, and they are beginning to apply European concepts to pursue grievances. Why should anyone be surprised?

Luc isn’t it great that although the white man setup all the water capture/reticulation systems in use today, the white man out of the goodness of his heart lets white women, brown men and women and just anyone who wants to hook up and pay lots of cash. Why do the lefties in particular the feminists hate us so much? We’re pretty terrific, evidently.

There’s nothing stopping Maori except themselves from setting up their own hydro outfit on the Waikato and then they can charge whitey for their power. And why don’t they take Te Tiwiti settlements and use it to build that? Those Maori boys will work for nothing so that makes 30-40 mil go a very long way indeed.

The point is, out of the goodness of heart from the people who paid for it, us, our parents and grandparents, water is a common wealth asset, just like the wind, the soil, the minerals in the ground. It’s a vital substance to life. It’s a force of gravity.

Don’t tell me. Maowi own that as well, don’t they.
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September 15, 2012 7:41pm
Luc Hansen

You may think that the Palestinians would be better off without Israel

I wish you guys wouldn’t try to tell me what I think.

I notice you didn’t rebut my points.

We brought and paid for most of the land luc sometimes more than once

Crap. Well into the twentieth century we continued stealing land through one premise or another.
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September 15, 2012 7:45pm
Kevin

When our new constitution comes in, with human rights for the environment perhaps we could get the trees and birds to claim the land, because they are more indigenous than the Maori.
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September 15, 2012 7:48pm
Luc Hansen

But Kevin, all the birds will want is to be left alone and not to be hunted, poisoned or killed by introduced predators to extinction.

Not much to ask, don’t you think?
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September 15, 2012 7:54pm
Luc Hansen

Reid

You need to look up the meaning of Eurocentric.

Yours is a very one-eyed view of the world.
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September 15, 2012 7:55pm
nasska

A man wakes up one morning to find his wife bent over the cooker frying one of his socks. “What are you doing?” asks the man and his wife replies “Exactly what you asked me to when you rolled in drunk last night”. Strange, thought the man, I don’t remember asking her to cook my sock?!
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September 15, 2012 8:00pm
Reid

Yours is a very one-eyed view of the world.

If it was I wouldn’t comment on issues like I do, would I Luc. Why just yesterday I had a good defence going on GD which was defending Muslims from the Libya killings. If I weally was Euwocentwic Luc I’d hardly fucking well do that, would I.

It was actually an ironic comedy quote Luc and thanks for ruining it for everyone else. 🙂
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September 15, 2012 8:02pm
Kevin

Yes let’s make that part of the settlement. Perhaps we humans could stay if we give back the land, but permanently lease it back and promise to work 24/7 to keep the birds and trees in the lifestyle to which they would like to become accustomed.
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September 15, 2012 8:03pm
Sofia

The claim itself will be straightforward. It will be argued that Maori were brought to Aotearoa by the wind, making it a taonga. As a taonga, it is black-letter law that Maori are guaranteed full, exclusive and undisturbed possession of the wind under Article Two of the Treaty of Waitangi
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/wind-claim-not-hot-air-mh-128307

How the fuck do they think whitemen got here? Same bloody wind, eh?
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September 15, 2012 8:06pm
Griff

luc crap no we paid for vast tracks at times we paid more than once is a fact
A unilateral tax on Maori. moari are a nett cost to this nation not a benefit you can not tax a cost
if they still had the total control and ownership of this country would they have a stable successful society?
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September 15, 2012 8:06pm
Monique Watson

@Nasska.@8pm Ha ha classic.
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September 15, 2012 8:12pm
Monique Watson

I regard anything produced from greenpeace or the United Socialist Nations as propaganda, And to be honest a little bit of melted ice is no big fat fucking deal.
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September 15, 2012 8:17pm
Kevin

If key could go the brash way it would be sad for his family, but good for the country.
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September 15, 2012 8:20pm
Reid

Good doco on the Shuttle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0kZpjleDuA&feature=related
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September 15, 2012 8:22pm
joana

Steve north shore
Hardly surprising to see you displaying your usual lack of compassion.
What is the story?
Do you have children of your own?
Do you care about anyone other than yourself?
Are you an act member following some kind of parroted ideology which you are too afraid or too brainwashed to deviate from?
Selling a dangerous substance to a minor without a qualm is as Kowtow says not the NZ way of yesteryear. It is disgusting..Equally pathetic is the way the powers that be are protecting the identity of the perpetrators.
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September 15, 2012 8:52pm
Kevin

Joana the only way of solving the drug and alcohol problem is to intervene with the offender ie the one trying to purchase the product underage, and thir family, through either prosecution and or social services. The country’s penchant for only going after the supplier is only a small partial answer and was always doomed to failure, as anyone with any sense could see and has now been proven by decades of worsening social statistics.
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September 15, 2012 9:16pm
RF

Not a confident game by the ABs. Lucky for them that the Boks had a poor kicking game. How come was Smith was playing.. Has Steve flipped flopped as he rambling on today about team discipline etc and that Smith would pay the price and be stood down.
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September 15, 2012 9:22pm
Viking2

Muslim protestors tear gassed

Protesters earlier refused to leave Hyde Park until police released a handful of arrested men.

Police said that, about 1pm today (local time), a group marched from Sydney Town Hall to Martin Place, where a confrontation occurred between protesters and police outside a building housing the US consulate.

Police used tear gas on the protesters.

Up to 500 people stormed through the city, working their way through Pitt Street before moving to Hyde Park amid a heavy police presence.

Late in the afternoon a lone man from outside the group shouted: “Shame on you for promoting murder in the name of religion.”

The crowd swarmed at him attacking him and sparking a second wave of violent clashes with police.

Police rushed to the man’s aide and dragged him out of the park under a rain of waterbottles, sticks and abuse.

Founder of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, condemned the violent protests, describing the marchers as a noisy minority.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trading said it was reviewing its security arrangements for Australian embassies overseas.

– Sydney Morning Herald
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/7685753/Muslim-protestors-tear-gassed

Warning signals for Australasia
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September 15, 2012 9:25pm
Pete George

The penalty Smith paid was to miss being in the starting 15 for a minor breach of team protocol.
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September 15, 2012 9:26pm
RF

PG.. Thanks. I was not aware of that. Thought he was gone for the whole game. ABs have got to lift their game if they are to stay on top.
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September 15, 2012 9:29pm
Pete George

It seems ridiculous that some stupid bugger makes a stupid crude movie and that causes riots around the world.

Some just seem to use any excuse for unrest. They even attacked a German embassy which surely had nothing to do with anything.
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September 15, 2012 9:31pm
joana

Behead those who insult the profit..comes to Sydney.. Winds of Jihad…..How long before we have the same thing in AK/WGTN/CHCH? Ten years..It is a numbers game.. The method is the same the world over. The goal is the same.
The people who made the video did not cause any riots..The video was around for months..The whole outrage thing was timed for Sept 11th. and outrage and violence is just what muslims do. Now the whole world can see what they are made of..The silence from the peacenik ones is surely deafening..Any word from the NZ mosques? No of course not..
The aim of all this is to destroy free speech in the west and to set islam up as some untouchable ideology which no one will be allowed to criticise.
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September 15, 2012 9:43pm
Fletch

It seems ridiculous that some stupid bugger makes a stupid crude movie and that causes riots around the world.

Some just seem to use any excuse for unrest.

It is an excuse. Apparently, the origins of the movie are murky. The maker has several aliases and the actors in the movie said that it originally had nothing to do with Mohammed. Perhaps the voiceover was added later.
It looks like a piece of propaganda that may even have been created by the Muslims as an excuse to attack.

Islamic radicals stormed the U.S. Consulate in Libya and killed 4 people including Ambassador Stevens supposedly because of an anti-Muslim video on YouTube. But something just isn’t right about this video.

There’s still so much about the film, the producer and the rest who were involved that we just don’t know. The producer and director goes by the name Sam Bacile, but that’s not his real name. He won’t divulge his true identity. He claimed to be an Israeli-born Jewish filmmaker and California real estate agent, but Christian activist and film-promoter Steve Klein stated that he was neither Jewish nor Israeli. Israeli officials have no record of him and neither do California real estate agencies.

He apparently had a $5 million budget. So, why didn’t he put that money toward production of the film? Sure, he had to pay actors and actresses (one of the actresses got $500) and a crew, but what about equipment and post-production? I ask because it doesn’t look like very much time, effort or money was spent on those things at all.

In fact, I dare you to get through all 14 minutes of the film’s “trailer.” It’s got to be the worst “anti-Muslim” film ever. It is so bad, and the voice overdubs are so poor, it’s as if whoever put this together was trying desperately to make Christians look bad, not Muslims. Yes, the film involves a lot of statements about Muhammad being a “gay” bastard and portrays him as a bloodthirsty killer, polygamist and an overall buffoon. But all the Islamic and Muhammad references were overdubbed in “post-production,” and they sound like they could have been done by some 8th grader on Garage Band.

The film’s “trailer” begins in presumably present-day Egypt. But then, a few minutes in, it “non-sequitors” into the ancient Middle East somewhere where an obvious green screen is used to supply a desert, a tent and a few camels in the background. The audio sounded like it was done in a bathroom, and the voice overdubs were even worse. Who in their right mind would give $5 million to someone who obviously had no idea what he was doing and who refused to use decent engineers? Bacile claimed that he raised the money from “100 Jewish donors.”

The end result is that it mocks Christians’ opinion of Islam to the point of absurdity. Now, since this film has all of a sudden gotten publicity even though it was posted to YouTube back in July, the media will point to it as an example of what Christians believe, and that these “extremist” and “anti-Muslim” sentiments are to blame for the violence and murder overseas.

Another mysterious figure is Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, who admitted to being the manager of the film’s production company. He too has aliases. Fox News reports:

Nakoula denied he directed the film and said he knew the self-described filmmaker, Sam Bacile. But the cell phone number that AP contacted Tuesday to reach the filmmaker who identified himself as Sam Bacile traced to the same address near Los Angeles where AP found Nakoula. Federal court papers said Nakoula’s aliases included Nicola Bacily, Erwin Salameh and others.

His aliases sound vaguely like “Sam Bacile” (“Salameh” – Sam; “Bacily” – Bacile). Do all these aliases refer to the same person? They might, but Nakoula denies posing as Bacile.

Nakoula also served 21 months in a federal prison and had to pay over $790,000 in restitution after pleading no contest in 2010 for federal bank fraud. Fox News continued:

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Leigh Williams said Nakoula set up fraudulent bank accounts using stolen identities and Social Security numbers, then checks from those accounts would be deposited into other bogus accounts from which Nakoula would withdraw money at ATM machines.

He claims to be a Coptic Christian.

When you look at the background of this bizarre film, you’ll find out that it was originally called “Desert Warriors,” and it was going to be about what life was like in Egypt 2,000 years ago. Actors were hired to portray Egyptians, and the main character was named “George.” The other characters referred to him as “Master George.” But their dialogue was edited later to make is sound like it was about Muhammad. The actors involved are now denouncing the film because they say they had no idea that it was going to turn into an “anti-Muslim” video. One of the actresses said that initially, when she received a copy of the script, it had nothing to do with religion at all. The film apparently played once or twice at some run down LA theater last year, and it was dubbed a “historical Arabian desert adventure film.” A “Sam Bassiel” was listed as the producer.

This Bacile figure is now in hiding because he fears for his life from Muslim radicals. We still don’t know who he is, who Nakoula is, and why such an over-the-top poor job was done in producing the film, and why it was used as an excuse for Muslim violence in Libya and elsewhere.

Source: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/09/was-the-anti-muslim-film-actually-produced-by-muslims-and-blamed-on-christians/#.UFOIvQQ3nBk.twitter
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September 15, 2012 9:43pm
Fletch

A Google MAP of Muslim protests around the world.
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September 15, 2012 9:52pm
bereal

and still we import more muslims into New Zealand.

talk about an own goal.

one day we will look back on the good old days when maoris claimed the water, the wind, the airways, the minerals…

the expression, “our people” will mean something totaly different.

Who will be the “our people” in the future of this country ?

one clue… it wont be maori.
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September 15, 2012 10:05pm
joana

Google has refused the muslim President of the US’s request to pull the video. Americans are pleased this has happened before their elections.
Bereal
There seems to be more and more of them here..over thirty mosques and a huge Dawa centre planned for Rotorua. I have posted previously on my experience at CHCh womens hospital..The muslim women call all the shots..The nurses realize this but feel they can’t do anything..I complained and got a pathetic reply..I am not in the child bearing age group but can only assume the same is happening all over the country.
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September 15, 2012 10:24pm
kowtow

Not only is the movie an excuse,it seems the whole world’s media are prepared to repeat that theme.

It reminds me of the outrage that Pope Benedict caused when…
And Salman Rushdie…
and Theo van Gogh…
and the Mohamed cartoons
and Abu graib..
and the 1928 Wailing Wall incident which led to the murder of the Jews of Hebron and subsequent ethnic cleansing.
various alleged Koran burnings…..

etc,etc.
Religion of peace?Religion of perpetual outrage.
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September 15, 2012 10:27pm
joana

Plus religion of perpetual deception..it is always someone elses fault.
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September 15, 2012 10:52pm
Keeping Stock

Joana – you’re quick to blame Chinese shop-owners for selling butane to kids, but where are the parents whilst the kids are getting wasted? Your xenophobia knows no bounds…
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September 15, 2012 11:38pm
joana

Xenophobia was an interesting word forty years ago..now it is just a senseless label ; a weak tool of the apologists. Chinese shop owners selling butane is a fact. Do you have difficulty with facts?
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September 15, 2012 11:44pm
rakuraku

Interesting to note the huge increase in methamphetamine usage with the increased numbers of Chinese in NZ.

Large volumes are coming in from China for consumption in NZ also a function of Chinese criminal activity.

The Government were warned about these potential problems when Jim Bolger set up his big Immigration Drive from China.
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September 15, 2012 11:50pm
MT_Tinman

Pete George (14,621) Says:
September 15th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
It seems ridiculous that some stupid bugger makes a stupid crude movie and that causes riots around the world.

Pete, it’s ridiculous that scum can riot, mostly with impunity, about some pathetic movie.

What a pity the Ocker cops didn’t use mustard gas!
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September 16, 2012 7:02am
MT_Tinman

KS is correct Joana.

Observation indicates the fellow or felless selling the butane out of the corner dairy is, in this part of godzone at least, is more likely to hail from the subcontinent than the near west.
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September 16, 2012 7:08am
Manolo

The imbecile Carney lives in a different world:
http://freebeacon.com/carney-protests-not-directed-at-the-united-states/
While trying to appease the murderers:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EGYPT_FILMMAKER_PROBATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-15-06-44-20
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September 16, 2012 7:25am
Keeping Stock

Quite so Tinman. Time was when a young Kiwi couple would buy a corner dairy, do an “Arkwright” and be open all hours for a few years then sell up and buy a house. Nowadays that’s too much like hard work, except for migrants who don’t baulk at working hard to make their dreams a reality.

But as far as huffing goes, I repeat my point from last night; where are the parents? My kids were certainly not roaming the streets and frying their brains with solvents at around the 10-15 age. Blaming shop owners is something of a cop-out.
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September 16, 2012 7:44am
MH

would you sell the stuff Keeping Stock?
Prob not,ciggies are hidden away,why not this stuff. The cops have to clean up the mess,they need to pay a visit,as does the IRD and labour Dept. It’s the lack of morality in these owners,they aren’t NZers,lets be honest,they are here to make money and then go home. Had a shop up in kaitaia on TV selling all the ingredients for making P side by side,stacked up in clear displays. How cynical was that? What were the locals doing,the men of mana? The teachers with no gumtion. What were the police and community nurses doing? Where was the intelligence gathering to report and deal with this immoral shopkeeper? we desrve what we get,obvious the Police and other attitudes is-it keeps them off the streets and away from burgling,out of sight,not our job,the parents don’t care.Complete abrogation by all. Not even a name and shame campaign,the society of Honeville lives by intimidation.
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