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February 7, 2012 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 7 February 2012

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RightNow

reid, are you channeling Sherlock Holmes?
“Moriarty reveals he owns shares in companies across Europe in cotton, guns and other goods, and plans to start a war that will create a large demand for them and make him a fortune.”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1515091/synopsis
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February 7, 2012 11:09pm
Griff

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/disturbing-sex-kitten-vogue-photoshoot-featuring-children/

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/chanel-iman-illuminati-symbolism-in-fashion/

this reid?
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February 7, 2012 11:23pm
reid

Yes Griff, that’s the one, but look further for the meaning of the symbolism. Apologies for misreading your intent, previously.

reid, are you channeling Sherlock Holmes? “Moriarty reveals he owns shares in companies across Europe in cotton, guns and other goods, and plans to start a war that will create a large demand for them and make him a fortune.”

Partly RN, but why not have a look at real world things, such as Bush 41’s involvement in the United Fruit Company in the 60’s in Ecuador for example, if you want an actual politician who really does do stuff like that, all the time? Then of course look at the examples everyone already knows about, like Cheney’s Haliburton and Rumsfeld’s involvement with the FDA while he was running the company that made aspartame.
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February 7, 2012 11:39pm
RightNow

Damn youtube, that was a funny diversion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7_zyzF7PEw&feature=related
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February 8, 2012 12:13am
publicwatchdog

At 7.55pm, Tuesday 7 February 2012, at the Auckland Central Police Station, I filed a formal complaint, alleging perjury against the Auckland Council Manager for Risk and Assurance, Natalie Verdouw.

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Under the NZ Crimes Act 1961, 108 Perjury defined

“(1) Perjury is an assertion as to a matter of fact, belief, or knowledge made by a witness in a judicial proceeding as part of his evidence on oath, whether the evidence is given in open court or by affidavit or otherwise, that assertion being known to the witness to be false and being intended by him to mislead the tribunal holding the proceeding.”

EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS COMPLAINT:

A) Supplementary affidavit of Natalie Verdouw in support of application for injunction to prevent breach of bylaw, CIV-2011-404-002497, between Auckland Council (Applicant) and The Occupiers of Aotea Square (Respondents) sworn 2 December 2011:

Paragraph 9

” On Monday 28 November 2011 Conor Roberts (the Mayor’s chief political advisor) telephoned me to arrange a further meeting to be held that day to hear the responses from Occupy Auckland to the Mayor’s requests. I called Andrew Hendrie to determine whether resolutions had been made by the group during the course of the two General Assembly meetings held over the weekend.
He told me that no resolutions had been made. ……..”

B) Email from Andrew Hendrie to Penny Bright, dated 6 December 2011:

“Penny,
To answer your question from Sunday, council called on Monday to find out the outcome from the GA and I advised them of my understanding of the situation, which is what I have done for the last 6 weeks with them, that was that the GA had agreed to invite the mayor and council to the GA. that was the only resolution communicated to me from Chris…………………

I know about this one resolution because I saw the letter from Sunday’s GA and I signed it. ”

(Also – pages 4 – 32 of the Notes of Evidence taken before Judge DM Wilson QC, Hearing Date 8 December 2011, CIV-2011-004-002497 )

SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS COMPLAINT:

It was from this one allegedly untrue telephone conversation between the Auckland Council Manager for Risk and Assurance, Natalie Verdouw and ONE member of the Occupy Auckland Council Liaison Team, Andrew Hendrie, that triggered the ongoing Court proceedings between Auckland Council and Occupy Auckland peaceful protestors.

On Wednesday 8 February 2012, as a ‘Named Respondent’ I am facing an Order of Committal for contempt of Court, and in so doing, am facing imprisonment. I have broken no law. Council Bylaws cannot ‘trump’ our lawful rights to peaceful assembly and freedom of expression, and Judge Wilson’s decision is under appeal.

Had Court proceedings arguably not been precipitiously triggered by Ms Verdouw’s perjurious statement(s), myself and other peaceful Occupy Auckland protestors would not now be facing jail.

Please be reminded of your Police Oath, and, without ‘favour or affection, malice or illwill’ uphold the law of New Zealand in a proper way help ensure that ‘ justice is done and is seen to be done’.

Yours sincerely,

COMPLAINANT: Penelope Mary Bright (aka Penny Bright)
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February 8, 2012 2:48am
Griff

you a little bit worried there penny
good
wish you could understand
you do not represent 99%
you represent yourself
remember we will be watching today
and hoping your self interested gets you your Deserts
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February 8, 2012 5:15am
big bruv

Penny.

Nobody cares.
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February 8, 2012 6:59am
Viking2

Three German tourists had their campavan robbed while showering. Photo / Thinkstock
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Three German tourists had their campavan robbed while showering. Photo / Thinkstock

Three German tourists were taking their last shower before leaving the country when they lost all their belongings.

Tim Potschka, Igor Tows and Theo Jacobi parked their campervan outside the old Auckland train station for two hours while they went to a nearby backpackers to freshen up.

They planned to fly out of New Zealand the next day after a month of touring the country. But when they returned to their van, it had been broken into. Everything – including laptops, wallets and passports – was gone.

“We were shocked and helpless. We didn’t know what to do,” said Mr Potschka. He said they called police, but nobody arrived for four hours, so they went to the station and “they wrote it down and that’s it.

So that must have been the day it took 78 kitted up ninga’s and two helicopters to serve an arrest warrant on a Kiwi resident at his own home in a leafy suburb of Auckland.
Must have been because seems noone else was avaiable in central Auckland to respond to a non residents property being burgaled and stolen.
Seems to me the Ms tolley should be asking the new Commissioner to explain themselves instead of running the usual its in court bullshit which was actually untrue.

The commisioner has a bunch of rouge, unacountable police in the Auckland area that he needs to get under control.
Will Mike Clements sort them?
Not sure but he certainly sorted some in the Bay even if he left a couple behind.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10784064
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February 8, 2012 7:29am
Manolo

Good on the owner for chasing away this savage: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/6379854/Dairy-owner-stumps-knife-wielding-robber
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February 8, 2012 7:31am
Viking2

Perhaps the Press should OIO Ms Tolley and ask what the cost of arresting Dotcam was in total.
The we could ask what good 70 of those people and two helicopters on hire could have done elsewhere in our community.
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February 8, 2012 7:32am
Manolo

Smile-and-wave doesn’t inspire much confidence these days: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/6373110/Key-confident-in-face-of-Waitangi-court-case
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February 8, 2012 7:33am
Griff

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10784076
Anger at ‘Maori holocaust’ comment
DEATH TOLL
NZ colonisation
* The Maori population fell by 40 per cent.
* More than 21,000 killed in warfare and 120,000 other deaths.
* Causes: War, disease and deprivation of resources.

Fucking bullshit
The deaths happened between 1812 and 1842 mostly before the treaty was sighed in 1840
Settler population at signing was less than 1000(as opposed to transient sailors, missionarys, whalers etc)
The wars were by Maori on Maori
Deprivation of resources was by Maori
Maori population pre contact 100,000to 110,000 40% would be 40000to 44000
Disease was only a minor impact of contact warfare, slavery and cannibalism killed a far greater proportion.
At least 1000 smoked heads exported 1% of the population who smoked them white men?

A holocaust perpetrated by Maori on Maori
not the settlers
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February 8, 2012 7:59am
Put it away

Rense, for fuck’s sake! Always thought reid was a bit of loon, but now he’s hit the motherlode of batshit insane conspiracy fantasy.
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February 8, 2012 8:05am
Elaycee

AHOY AGAIN PENNY:

You didn’t answer my previous query whether someone had taught you how to read the financials in a standard Annual Report, or whether you preferred to maintain your modus operandi and just spout the first shit that comes into your tin foil covered head. Including your totally incorrect version of Director remuneration levels at the POA.

And yet you have the cheek to complain to Police whether someone else has spoken the truth? Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

I see you’re back in the Auckland Court today and I just know you’ll be devastated I won’t be there to see your latest charade. I hope this case is being heard by Justice Wilson (the same Justice Wilson of whom you said: “…in my considered opinion, treated the FACTS, the EVIDENCE and the LAW with contempt”….. and then added “…I for one, treat his ‘Court Order’ with contempt…”).

And be a big girl if he locks you up – don’t drop your lip and start bawling like you did on TeeVee.

Its time you faced the consequences of your actions. 😀
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February 8, 2012 8:13am
bhudson

reid,

Don’t forget, if rense is crap, how come I cited all those rense links for years and years and no-one noticed.

Perhaps they didn’t follow your links. Certainly I have never had the fortune to click on one and be transported to rense.com (a site I have visited before and therefore would recognise.)

As to the validity and veracity of anything on rense.com, I think it can be summed up with: a silo of chaff does not guarantee there are grains of wheat present.

It is interesting that you use the term ‘cognitive dissonance’ and rense.com together. In my view the cognitive dissonance results from actual reality being threatened with a bombardment of unsubstantiated assertions, half truths and highly loaded, emotive expose style writing which typifies articles on rense. com and similar sites. There was a book released in NZ some years ago – Suppressed Inventions was the title IIRC. A sterling example of such writing – it is worthy of textbook status on manipulative writing.

I am afraid that to link to rense.com and similar is to metaphorically don the togs and leather jacket ensemble, while reaching for the water skis…
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February 8, 2012 8:39am
reid

Perhaps they didn’t follow your links.

bhudson you misunderstand. I linked to the source, not to rense. For I know rense generates cognitive dissonance and in sufferers, this means they disregard the information, whatever it may be. Because they don’t know enough to distinguish the information from the source, even when the information is true.

And many did click the links, for many many many years. I daresay you probably clicked one or two yourself, I vaguely recall quite a few debates with you on various issues over the years. I’m pretty sure you would have, never knowing.

Do you feel dirty?

Oh dear.
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