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October 2, 2011 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Pete George

Scotland weren’t quite brave enough last night and England finished stronger and actually scored a try. But why does Scotland (and Ireland) get much better support here? Why do Kiwis support “anyone but England”?
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October 2, 2011 8:09am
Inventory2

Best of luck to the Auckland Vulcans, the Junior Warriors and the Might-ty Vodafone Warriors this afternoon; a fantatstic achievement for the Warriors club, and a portent to a very bright future.

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/10/warrior-nation.html
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October 2, 2011 8:16am
Michael

Scotland and Ireland have never beaten the All Blacks, England have. Therefore, Scotland and Ireland will be the underdogs. Plus their woman have hot accents.
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October 2, 2011 8:22am
plebe

Down on our kness to pray for the recovery of (pretty boy Carter) NOT.Where are the real hard men allblacks of old????.
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October 2, 2011 8:31am
Scott Chris

What a day for the Warriors Club. Vulcans to kick off at 2, the juniors at 4, (keep an eye out for a young Hagrid, Sam Louisi) and the main game at 6.30.

Feel like a kid again.

My heart says 18 to 10 to the Warriors.

My head says 18 to 10 to Manly.

My heart tells my head to fuck off and give itself an uppercut.

OUCH!
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October 2, 2011 8:43am
mikenmild

This will be a day where the All Blacks are playing a test but most fans will be interested in the medical update on Dan Carter’s groin.
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October 2, 2011 8:48am
David Garrett

I see Pita Sharples comes out today with that tired old saw that the reason 51% of prisoners are Maori is because of “systemic racism” in the police. When is he and other Maori leaders going to face the fact that – for whatever reason – their people commit more crime?

Even Harawira once admitted to me (though he would no doubt deny it) that “child abuse is our peoples f….en problem, and we have to f…en fix it”. And then some fools with ten times more education than he has come out and say it’s all down to the missionaries…..God help us….and the poor bashed little kids…
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October 2, 2011 8:51am
chris123

Does anyone reading Red Alert think that Clare Curran is trying to limit the damage with the post titled “Go Pies” – you would think its a Warriors fan site:

(cut down) “….This weekend it’s all about the Warriors….. tomorrow night the Warriors play Manly Sea Eagles in in the NRL grand final

So Go the Pies and the Warriors and the Irish this weekend.”

I bet all labour cannot wait to congratulate them. Can you imagine the welcome Fenton would get at the grounds.
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October 2, 2011 8:53am
Pete George

The test of a true world champion is to overcome adversity and injury and still win the final game. The Al Blacks would really prove their if they won without Carter – and there’s no reason why they shouldn’t.
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October 2, 2011 8:54am
chris123

“the reason 51% of prisoners are Maori is because of “systemic racism”” -Oh – I though it was because they broke the law, and were found guilty in a court of law.
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October 2, 2011 8:56am
Scott Chris

mikenmild – Forget your obsession with Dan Carter’s groin for a day. There’s only one game on, and it’s in Sydney town.
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October 2, 2011 8:59am
mikenmild

chris
What you have put in speech marks is merely a quotation from David Garrett. It is not what Pita Sharples said.
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October 2, 2011 9:02am
Pete George

The Sydney game will no doubt get the most interest – and so it should – butb there’s a big buzz and a crucial RWC game (the final pool game) in Dunedin today. There has already been plenty of colour and leprechauns swarming the city.

http://yourdunedin.org/2011/10/02/ireland-versus-italy/
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October 2, 2011 9:03am
Inventory2

Well actually Scott Chris; I’m just on my way to Welly to watch the AB’s – then I’ll drive back to Wanganui with the radio off, and thanks to MySky, watch the Warriors. RWC2011 is still tops in my whare!
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October 2, 2011 9:16am
chris123

I2 – enjoy the game. (lucky git)
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October 2, 2011 9:18am
Manolo

This man doesn’t want to face reality and appears blinded by false ethnic loyalties. A disgrace.

An irrepressible racists speaks: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10755915

Trougher Sharples says the system (police, courts and corrections) “systematically discriminates against Maori”; that “Maori offenders were arrested at three times the rate of non Maori for the same crimes”; and demanded a “transformed justice system that should include Maori practices, principles and programmes by Maori, for Maori, with Maori”.
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October 2, 2011 9:19am
Scott Chris

Inventory2

Have a good day. Enjoy the slaughter.
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October 2, 2011 9:19am
Other_Andy

How North Dakota Became Saudi Arabia
Wall treet Journal
Harold Hamm, discoverer of the Bakken fields of the northern Great Plains, on America’s oil future and why OPEC’s days are numbered.

Harold Hamm, the Oklahoma-based founder and CEO of Continental Resources, the 14th-largest oil company in America, is a man who thinks big. He came to Washington last month to spread a needed message of economic optimism: With the right set of national energy policies, the United States could be “completely energy independent by the end of the decade. We can be the Saudi Arabia of oil and natural gas in the 21st century.”

http://tinyurl.com/3km3cjo
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October 2, 2011 9:19am
mikenmild

Should be a great time in Welly today. Weather seems better than expected. Huge day yesterday, with the Navy in town and so much happening along the waterfront.
Expect a big send off from a packed stadium to launch the ABs into the knockout stages.
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October 2, 2011 9:21am
David Garrett

Mikdey: I suggest you go and read (in the Herald) what Sharples is quoted as saying…perhaps then you can come and point out where I misrepresent him….
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October 2, 2011 9:24am
Manolo

A Labour lite superstar has another crack at it: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10755892
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October 2, 2011 9:25am
MT_Tinman

There is a game of something in Sydney?

How does that affect NZ?
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October 2, 2011 9:25am
Manolo

What’s next for Greece and the EU after Germany’s latest refusal? http://www.france24.com/en/20111001-germany-wont-give-more-eu-bail-out-fund
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October 2, 2011 9:35am
Other_Andy

New Battery Could Be Just What the Grid Ordered

A Pittsburgh company says its battery has the long life and cheap cost needed to be practical for energy storage.

A new battery developed by Aquion Energy in Pittsburgh uses simple chemistry—a water-based electrolyte and abundant materials such as sodium and manganese—and is expected to cost $300 for a kilowatt-hour of storage capacity, less than a third of what it would cost to use lithium-ion batteries. Third-party tests have shown that Aquion’s battery can last for over 5,000 charge-discharge cycles and has an efficiency of over 85 percent.

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/38689/?p1=A4
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October 2, 2011 9:38am
tristanb

David Garrett: I see Pita Sharples comes out today with that tired old saw that the reason 51% of prisoners are Maori is because of “systemic racism” in the police.

These recent incidents actually made me think it was the other way round:
* Intentionally torch a building causing $350,000 and destroying someone’s business and $200,000 of goods – sentenced to 10 months’ home detention and ordered to pay $1500 reparation.
* Fake being a pilot and steal a cheque for $15,000 – sentenced to two years and three months’ jail.

I’m not defending the second boy, but even the dullard judge in the first case knew someone might have been killed in that arson.

Anyway, my main point is that Maori are most often victims of crime too. If Sharples actually cared about his people (and not just his gang-member mates) he would lobby to get Maori locked up for longer.

You sentence a Maori paedophile for a short time (because the judge gets swayed by a sob story about the crim’s own childhood abuse and drug dependence) and he’ll be back out of jail to again destroy the lives of his family and family’s friends. Let gang members out, and they’ll be burgling from the honest hard-workers in Maori neighbourhoods.

If Sharples was to increase penalties for Maori criminals, then the majority of the law-abiding Maori citizens would be able to carry on without that negative influence, unpredictable violent fathers, and unreported domestic violence. Shorter sentences are not fair all the future victims.

If I was a racist person and didn’t care about Maori well-being, I’d get white criminals locked up for longer to get rid of the scummy white-trash element in society, and let the others out of prison to perpetuate the problem amongst Maori.

But I’m not a racist, and I think that we all deserve to be protected from the bastards who ruin society.
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October 2, 2011 10:08am
Griff

Daniel Carter has been ruled out of the remainder of the Rugby World Cup this morning with a serious groin injury
http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-world-cup/carter-gone-4430285
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October 2, 2011 10:21am
Tauhei Notts

Chris at 8.53 a.m. mentioned how a Labour Party harridan had said
“Go the Pies”
My visitor from Melbourne commented on how N.Z.’s Labour politicians always associate themselves with losers.
At the Melbourne Cricket Ground yesterday the “pies” were thrashed by the Geelong Cats.
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October 2, 2011 10:50am
CHFR

It is election yearb and Sharples is fighting for his (political) life. Just playing to the base I am afraid.

Wish they would stop it though and take some ownership of the problem.
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October 2, 2011 10:58am
Viking2

😆 – Maori will not sell NZ land to Foreigners, land is sacred to Maori?? 😆

Ngai Tahu sells Canterbury forestry land
ALAN WOOD
Last updated 14:55 30/09/2011

Ngai Tahu Holdings Group has confirmed the sale of about 18,000 hectares of Canterbury forestry land to a private Swiss-based group of investors for $22.9 million.

A spokesman for the group said the iwi had decided in about September last year to seek offers for seven lowland forest blocks, on which offshore-owned Matariki Forests owns the trees and cutting rights and pays $1 million a year in land rent.

Ngai Tahu is generally following a strategy of diversifying its holdings to strengthen its financial footing.
It has property, seafood, tourism, and forestry assets and investments in other companies.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/5712149/Ngai-Tahu-sells-Canterbury-forestry-land
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October 2, 2011 11:09am
s.russell

And speaking of Pita Sharples, this morning’s poll on Marae Investigates shows him winning Tamaki Makaurau by 46.1% to 30.4% for Jones. Davis is 2% of Harawira in Te Tai Tokerau and Flavell 41% ahead in Waiariki (with Labour 3rd). Labour ahead in Te Tai Tonga 41.4% to 34.5%.
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October 2, 2011 11:13am
s.russell

Ooops. That should be Davis (Labour) is 2% ahead of Harawira in Te Tai Tokerau.
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October 2, 2011 11:25am
Other_Andy

@Viking2

“Ngai Tahu sells Canterbury forestry land”

Ngai Tahu has done this for 200 years now.
They are (With Tainui) the biggest crooks in the country.
They sell all “their land” (In the case of Banks Peninsula several times over.) and then they run to the Waitangi Tribunal and are given it back again with added ‘compensation’.
They have now had two or three ‘final settlements’?
Every generation they have another sob story and another round of ‘compensation’.
We are the sods that let them.
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October 2, 2011 11:38am
Other_Andy

@Viking2
Read Everton’s three part 1997 article in the Free Radical on ‘Ngai Tahu’s Tangled Web’ for the full story.
Mind your blood pressure!
http://www.recreationaccess.org.nz/files/free_radical_26_ngai_tahu.pdf
http://www.recreationaccess.org.nz/files/free_radical_27_ngai_tahu.pdf
http://www.recreationaccess.org.nz/files/free_radical_28_ngai_tahu.pdf
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October 2, 2011 11:47am
scanner

Great to see all the children on Red Blert playing nicely today, it looks like like Trev and Clare have managed to ban just about everyone with in opinion different to theirs, we should all get together and have a nice big friendly hug.
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October 2, 2011 11:52am
Griff

Does anyone have a link to the Marae Investigates poll?
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October 2, 2011 11:57am
David Garrett

Other Andy: I remember when Everton’s series came out….I have never seen his arguments rebutted.

For the story of the Waikato, see Michael King’s “Te Puea”…recommended to me by no less than Tainui’s then lawyer Denese Henare – now better known as Mrs Wayne Mapp. The chapter on the 1940’s settlement for the raupatu confiscations of the 1860’s gives the lie to the oft repeated arguments that the settlements were negotiated with the wrong people (it doesnt get higher than Te Puea and her advisors for the claimants, and Peter Fraser and his for the government) and for trifling amounts (the then value of a dairy farm every year in perpertuity).

The only argument worth a damn is the amounts were not inflation adjusted. Neither was any other long term contract – such as superannuation – until the 1960’s. AMP didnt increase pensions in 1975 because $60 a week was no longer provided a comfortable retirement as it had in 1965
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October 2, 2011 12:05pm
Scott Chris

Regarding Dan Carter:

That is awful news. Poor guy must be devastated.

From the AB’s point of view, it’s better that it happened now, so they can effect their contingency immediately now rather than in the midst of a semi final.

Still think we’ll win. The ABs are not a 1 man team.
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October 2, 2011 12:18pm
Viking2

Thank goodness Kedgely is going.

Denmark introduces fat tax

Sunday, 2, Oct, 2011 6:37AM

Denmark has become the first country in the world to impose a fat tax, sending shoppers stampeding to the supermarkets to stock up.

The new tax is intended to reduce people’s intake of fatty foods.

It adds the equivalent of around $4 per kilo of saturated fats in a product.

The tax is being levied on every product which has fat in it – from butter and milk to pizzas, oils, meats and pre-cooked foods.
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October 2, 2011 1:07pm
Rufus

Over at CR Darin, on the minimum wage:

“For starters artificially high wages for the lower classes of labor means less money to pay every labor group above them.This is one more case of a little government meddling in one area causing damage to the whole.

The minimum wage can almost be described as the special Olympics of employment,where every employee is a winner just for showing up.

With this system good employees are held back,mediocre ones don’t have to improve and rotten ones are difficult to weed out.In times past these jobs were meant to class and grade employees to insure that only the highest class in any grade moved up the chain.”

Hear, hear.
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October 2, 2011 1:17pm
Paulus

Stop the RWC – Carter is injured. Somebody should advise him to loosen his underpants perhaps.
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October 2, 2011 1:21pm
Pete George

Rufus, Labour have heaps of signs up around Dunedin promising $15 minimum wage, an election bribe promising other people’s money.
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October 2, 2011 1:25pm
Rufus

Oh. my. goodness.

Does Stuff seriously pay Pagani for this rubbish??!!

He uses a graph sourced from The Stranded… A totally misleading, meaningless graph that is designed to give an impression of something it doesn’t actually depict.

If he’s Stuff’s token lefty to balance DPF, then they’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

DPF has no competition from Johnny.
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October 2, 2011 1:29pm
Rufus

Pete, I know.

I’ve seen them around Christchurch too.

$15 just for turning up. Winners, all of them! Yay!

I wonder why Labour settled on $15. Why not $20? I mean, it would make people happier, the govt. would take more tax, and more people would vote Labour.

Why not $45/hr?
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October 2, 2011 1:33pm
reid

Wow, this is amazing:

Nasa unveils map of salt levels in seas around the world which could transform our understanding of weather.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2042116/Nasa-unveils-map-salt-levels-seas-world-transform-understanding-weather.html

As I understand it the Gulf Stream is driven by dozens of cold water sinker columns numbers of which have been decreasing an effect I understand is driven by changes in salinity. Since the Gulf Stream carries critical nutrients and drives global weather this is a bit of a worry. If they can map salinity now on a daily basis perhaps this disappearing sinker issue can become better understood.
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October 2, 2011 1:40pm
Other_Andy

@Viking2

“Denmark introduces fat tax
Denmark has become the first country in the world to impose a fat tax, sending shoppers stampeding to the supermarkets to stock up.
The new tax is intended to reduce people’s intake of fatty foods.
It adds the equivalent of around $4 per kilo of saturated fats in a product.”

Ah, poor Danes.
Their first socialist government (With a very slim majority) and their first female PM.
What do they do?
1. They increase taxes.
2. They increase government spending.
3. They loosen up immigration restrictions.

The fat tax is a bureaucratic nightmare. It will probably cost them $8 per kilo to collect the $4 per kilo of extra tax.
And….
They are going to add an extra tax on butter, cheese and milk.
Are they for real?
Denmark is a dairy producer…..
This government will not last very long.
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October 2, 2011 2:06pm
thedavincimode

reid

You don’t mean … gasp … the real problem is global de-salination!!!???

Somebody tell Al.
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October 2, 2011 2:23pm
Pete George

Sunday diary

1.00 Argentina v Georgia
2.00 NSW cup final
3.30 ABs v Canada
4.00 Toyota Cup final
6.00 Wales v Fiji
7.30 NRL final
8.30 Ireland v Italy
10.30 mow the lawn

What election?
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October 2, 2011 2:27pm
reid

http://news.discovery.com/animals/beagle-dog-glows-green-110801.html

Also, don’t be surprised if glowing dogs and cats become a new pet trend in future.

As Ko said, the “technology could be used for producing a variety of unique cats and dogs, possibly creating a new area of commercial interest.”

No, I won’t be surprised, but I will die a little on the inside, when it happens. Sigh.
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October 2, 2011 3:01pm
Scott Chris

V2 – “Denmark has become the first country in the world to impose a fat tax”

Gosh the portly do get picked on. It’s their choice to be fat isn’t it? As long as they pay for two seats on the plane and for their own health insurance, then I’m happy.

On the other hand, I’m all for accurate labeling of food. An informed consumer is a warned consumer.
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October 2, 2011 4:14pm
reid

Gosh the portly do get picked on.

Not half as much as they should, Scott. Fat bastards.

If I was in power, the first thing I’d do is make them buy themselves one of those vibrating belt machines and make them use it for at least an hour every single day, lest they get imprisoned.

Pretty soon, no more fat bastards. Hooray.

I mean who wants to hang out with fat bastards, anyway? We know what they can do, just watch that Austin Powers doco on a few years back. Think about it.
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October 2, 2011 4:20pm
Rodders

And why stop there? 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knwwgZNeIpA
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October 2, 2011 4:33pm
Scott Chris

Reid – “make them use it for at least an hour every single day, lest they get imprisoned.”

Crikey Reid, I didn’t have you pegged as an authoritarian Nanny Statist.

Privatizing health care would be a step in the right direction as far as I’m concerned. Those that don’t pay insurance get the bare minimum care and a bill at the end.

Concessions could be made for those whose ailments are unrelated to lifestyle choice and also to children and the elderly. The rest should be given the freedom of choice to live responsibly.
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October 2, 2011 4:45pm
Manolo

A good example of a top scientist (a Nobel Prize physicist) who is unable to perform in the public arena: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64862.html
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October 2, 2011 4:45pm
reid

Crikey Reid, I didn’t have you pegged as an authoritarian Nanny Statist.

You haven’t been paying much attention then have you, Scott.

Admittedly I don’t talk about it much for fear of letting the cat out of the bag too early in my political career, so please don’t mention it much from here on, if you wouldn’t mind. If When I seize power, I’ll remember you…

Wink.
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October 2, 2011 5:10pm
reid

Manolo what do you reckon? Is the Solyndra scandal worse than Fast and Furious?

(For those unfamiliar, Solyndra is a Federally promoted solar power “green-tech” company which collapsed and Fast and Furious is the ATF operation that saw thousands of US auto-weapons going to Mexican criminals under the over-sight of the ATF.)
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October 2, 2011 5:19pm
plebe

The ABs vs Canada,my thoughts
slade a worried looking shoe in, kicks like shit.
OUR CAKE TIN in Wellington makes dorklands eden park look like what my grand children build with lego,bits and pieces
Wellington the transport and hospitality capital of New Zealand, no worries
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October 2, 2011 5:25pm
MT_Tinman

plebe. “thoughts”?????
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October 2, 2011 6:14pm
mikenmild

There was a great atmosphere at the stadium this afternoon. Air Force display overhead, Navy in port, marching band on the field. Commanding performance from the ABs. Good games from Kaino and Vito in McCaw’s absence. Guildford looking for work. Sonny Bill didn’t have the best day with the hands.
Weepu has my vote to start at fist five for the knockout matches – he has that big-match temperament.
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October 2, 2011 6:35pm
nasska

A big, burly man visited the pastor’s home and asked to see the minister’s wife, a woman well known for her charitable impulses.
“Madam,” he said in a broken voice, “I wish to draw your attention to the terrible plight of a poor family in this district. The father is dead, the mother is too ill to work, and the nine children are starving. They are about to be turned into the cold, empty streets unless someone pays their rent, which amounts to $600.”
“How terrible!” exclaimed the preacher’s wife. Touched by the sensitivity of a man with such a gruff appearance, she asked, “May I ask who you are?”
The sympathetic visitor applied his handkerchief to his eyes. “I’m their landlord,” he sobbed.
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October 2, 2011 8:00pm
Manolo

Is the Solyndra scandal worse than Fast and Furious?

Yes, I believe so. The Messiah’s administration desire, the eagerness, to throw (lend) money (530 million US Dollars) to a company without the proper checks and balances is scandalous to say the least.

Not long ago, Biden, the buffoon that passes as VPOTUS, was touting Solyndra as a model for future American companies. Obama himself took campaign donations and visited the company as part of his dreadful green jobs promotion. The loan could be construed as a payback, a very costly one for the American taxpayer.

Fast and Furious is something else: a complete breakdown of policy. Lunatics running the asylum, really.
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October 2, 2011 8:03pm
reid

Fast and Furious is something else: a complete breakdown of policy. Lunatics running the asylum, really.

Thanks Manolo. Let’s see who’s right.

My prediction is: Fast and Furious will see Obama play the race card, if his masters decide he’s useful enough to have another term. If they don’t, he won’t and he’ll lose, because of Fast and Furious. There’s a lot of bad karma round Obama right now, so IMO that calculation is still underway.
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October 2, 2011 8:26pm
Hurf Durf

Hah, Bummer Bradbury waxing lyrical over Queef Locke. As if I needed any other reason to be glad to see the back of him from parliament.

Manolo: would be nice if the Herald reported on Solyndra and Fast and Furious as well. They wouldn’t even touch the Johann Hari plagiarism scandal, which is funny considering how much they loved to print his stuff.

You know, there’s a real chance for an enterprising reporter to make his name here. Maybe Carl Bernstein and his WaPo friends should stop sighing whimsically about the hacking scandal and look a little closer to home.
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October 2, 2011 8:26pm
nasska

I was out with family and friends at a local pub, and I really
stuck my foot in my mouth!
They had a contest going on at the pub —and of course
we all joined in. I was doing quite well, proud of being able
to answer all the questions.

I lost out on winning the pub quiz by one point.
The question was, “Where do women mostly have curly hair?”

Apparently its Africa.
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October 2, 2011 9:00pm
Rodders

😀 – That reminds me of the character, Walt doing a crossword in “Stuck on You”

Walt: What’s a four-letter word for snatch?
Bob: Grab.
Walt: Oh… right. Whoopsie.
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October 2, 2011 9:06pm
nasska

Little Johnny’s neighbour had a baby.

Unfortunately, the baby was born without ears.

When mother and new baby came home from the hospital, Johnny’s family was invited over to see the baby.

Before they left their house, Little Johnny’s dad had a talk with him and explained that the baby had no ears.

His dad also told him that if he so much mentioned anything about the baby’s missing ears or even said the word ears, he would get the smacking of his life when they came back home.

Little Johnny told his dad he understood completely.

When Johnny looked in the crib he said, “What a beautiful baby.”

The mother said, “Why, thank you, Little Johnny.

Johnny said, “He has beautiful little feet and beautiful little hands, a cute little nose and really beautiful eyes. Can he see?”

“Yes”, the mother replied, “we are so thankful; the Doctor said he will have 20/20 vision.”

“That’s great”, said Little Johnny,”coz he’d be fucked if he needed glasses”.
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October 2, 2011 9:11pm
Scott Chris

Congratulations to the Manly Sea Eagles and congratulations to the Warriors for a brave fight. Roll on 2012.

🙁
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October 2, 2011 9:19pm
Rodders

nasska 😀
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October 2, 2011 9:19pm
Manolo

would be nice if the Herald reported on Solyndra and Fast and Furious as well

Despite its size, and maybe because of it, the liberal US media is trying to cover this scandal up without much luck. They protect the Messiah’s administration above all.

The chance of such issues getting exposure or traction here is close to nil.

There are no serious investigative journalists in NZ. Most of the hacks that publish in our daily papers are plagiarists or paid servants of political parties.
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October 3, 2011 9:34am
Lee01

What is traditionalism?

“A traditionalist is someone who accepts tradition as authoritative.

That’s not someone who believes that tradition is a good source of suggestions or an acceptable guide when no better can be had. Nor is it someone who thinks that all traditions must always be followed. It’s someone who recognizes that tradition knows more than any of us, and should be followed unless there are very good reasons to the contrary. Rejecting tradition is like a novice rejecting the advice of a master. It might be a good idea, and on occasion it might even be necessary, but it’s not something to be done lightly, especially in important matters. When you do it you’re usually wrong.

Traditionalism is rational when we are dealing with things that cannot be demonstrated and reduced to clear rules. Those include basic things like the attitudes, practices and ideals that define our way of life. A way of life is too close to us and too comprehensive to be reduced to rule or judged wholly by external standards. You have to live it to understand it. As a result, every way of life is traditional.

We live not only by stated purposes but by unstated understandings and by symbols—things done not because they are practical but because they make intangibles concrete and so part of the daily pattern of life. For that reason tradition is especially concerned with things that to antitraditionalists seem irrational or at least non-rational, and therefore perhaps dispensible—manners, social forms, festivals, heroes, sacred symbols and institutions, principles and practices that are accepted on faith.

Such things are not in fact dispensible. We need them because they embody the intangible realities that we need and make them a present reality to us. We rightly prefer the tradition that embodies those realities to our own reason and purposes because those realities are basic to the world of habits and understandings within which our reason and purposes can operate.

There are two challenges to traditionalism. One is that particular traditions are bad and should be abandoned. Another is that the authority of tradition is unnecessary, that it should be replaced by the authority of reason and of the experiences that formerly gave rise to tradition. Traditional morality is to be replaced by some combination of philosophy and the social sciences, traditional symbols by the artistic creations of the day, traditional religion by free thought or charismatic inspiration.

The alternate authorities that have been proposed—science, reason, perception, passion, will, inspiration, artistic creativity—may have their claims, but they contradict themselves and each other, and none covers enough ground to support a way of life on its own. Only tradition can weigh the opposing claims and give each a setting in which it can make its contribution. Traditionalism is thus necessary for rationality and even sanity.”

Jim Kalb
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October 3, 2011 9:57am
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@ reid I think Fast and Furious was even worse – wasn’t one of the weapons used to kill a Federal Marshall as well. But I read a piece on Solyndra on the way home this weekend and my god did they spend money!!
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