General Debate 25 October 2010

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Yvette

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October 25, 2010 7:16am
Say Goodbye to Hollywood

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October 25, 2010 7:37am
Inventory2

Now, now Yvette; it’s OK to be first! It’s not a crime!!
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October 25, 2010 7:37am
Viking2

HMMM, yep well it does look Like Robyn won’t make Hollywood.
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October 25, 2010 7:38am
Inventory2

Oh dear; how sad; never mind!
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October 25, 2010 7:40am
Viking2

Stupid, stupid, stupid. Don’t actors watch the news? Are actors so isolated in their precious and irrelevant world of the stage and the dressing room ………….
Actually, what the whole disastrous affair shows is the unbelievable ego and rank selfishness of actors.

From that legend of TV ego’s. (Paul Holmes)

And if it has been a brilliant game, the actors have played it in an unbelievably dumb way.

Man, I’m angry. Angry that a group of gullible actors have allowed themselves to be used by some bolshy, left-wing filth from Australia who may or may not simply want to get The Hobbit filmed over there.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10682616
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October 25, 2010 7:43am
Inventory2

John Barnett from South Pacific Pictures reckons that the unions have hung Malcolm and Ward-Leland out to dry. It’s certainly time that Simon Whipp fronted up to the media

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2010/10/unions-cop-kicking.html

As for Helen Kelly; is the clock ticking on her CTU presidency?
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October 25, 2010 7:54am
Viking2

Perhaps those two women were the two in DPF’s little joke yesterday.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/10/a_joke_i_was_told_today.html

Either way they have both been shafted by Whipp(ing)
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October 25, 2010 7:59am
Pete George

While I don’t disagree with Holmes sentiments I thought his “interview” of Kelly on Q&A was the worst I have seen, he missed a great opportunity due to his foaming at the mouth. Only John Barnett’s presence made the segment worth watching.
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October 25, 2010 8:06am
Pete George

Something that is long overdue….

Big shake-up for state housing

State housing is set for its biggest shake-up in decades with the Government poised to abandon the “state house for life” policy.

With thousands stuck on waiting lists and a third of state houses occupied for more than 10 years by the same family, time-limited tenancies could be introduced as early as next year – initially for new tenants, but likely to be rolled out to all tenants except pensioners and the most vulnerable tenants over time.

Housing Minister Phil Heatley said the options were yet to go to the Cabinet so no decisions had been made, but he was considering changes including three-year, five-year and 10-year tenancy terms with a right of review after that time.

It is a significant change from the previous policy that tenants are not moved on, regardless of a change in circumstances.

The shake-up will not end there. The Government will also look at moving on singles or couples who stay in their three, four and five-bedroom state homes long after children have left home.

State housing should be a help, not a permanent handout.
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October 25, 2010 8:09am
Akaroa

Re-Pete George at 8.09am.

And was anyone else as astopnished as I was – when watching the TVNZ report of this item – to see no interview of any fulminating and aggrieved left wing spokes-person/politician/councillor or whatever condemnng this news as ‘Tory vindictivenss’ or some such twaddle.

Don’t say we’re actually growing up in this country and interpreting news sensibly and accuratly – rather than reverting to the “Left-good right-bad” mindsets that have characterised NZ events and politics for so long.

Hallelujah!
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October 25, 2010 8:18am
Akaroa

Me again.

Re the above:

‘astopnished’ ‘accuratly’

Wha’?

(Must keep taking the tablets).
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October 25, 2010 8:25am
alex Masterley

And the best news of all the Arse beat Man City 3-0.
BTW were have Phil And Andrew been this past week?
Their silence on the Hobbit kerfuffel has been deafening and even more amazing there has been no comment by them on the Housing Corporation shake up. I expected to see them defending the right of people to live in state provided rental accomdation for their life time.
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October 25, 2010 8:27am
Inventory2

@ alex – Go the mighty Gunners!

@ akaroa – even more astounding was a state house tenant saying that what the government was proposing was a good idea! The Left must be on holiday!
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October 25, 2010 8:37am
wreck1080

I’ve always cringed when the media bangs on about how great Kiwis are at innovation and the No. 8 wire mentality. I think, kiwis can be held up as clever monkeys to be looked on with bemusement as they fashion crude tools to assist their daily lives.

I mean really, tell me what we have invented that changed the world? Even kiwis that did invent stuff usually did so in foreign R&D labs.

Peter Gluckman finally utters some sensible words….

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4269183/NZ-needs-to-wake-up-top-scientist

He seems to think that since National got into power that things have changed. Sounds more like National blabbing off than actual reality.
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October 25, 2010 8:38am
bhudson

A quote from D4J on the “Not an accident” thread:

“…you can’t legislate against stupidity.”

Oh, but you can. Just wait and see what happens with the employment laws as a result of recent activist & union stupidity.
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October 25, 2010 8:58am
Dave Stringer

[Wha’?]

Indeed, you must keep taking the tablets!!

pots and kettles do not a good meal make, apostrophes are intended to reduce the number of pen strokes, yours merely replaced on with another. As bad as a typo methinks!
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October 25, 2010 9:38am
wreck1080

Google NZ sold $150,000,000 of advertising to NZ customers.

I wouldn’t have a clue about their overheads, but, I’d imagine they’d make a few million bucks profit from NZ operations at the very least.

So, you’d think they pay a little bit of tax.

But, according to the Stuff website, Google NZ paid just $7726 tax in the last financial year.

How many elderly hip operations could have been done if google paid the fair amount of tax? How many lives could have been saved?

What happened to Googles “do no evil?” mantra?

I’ve heard google respond that they are just doing what everyone else does. Like that makes it right.
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October 25, 2010 10:11am
MT_Tinman

# Yvette (1,123) Says:
October 25th, 2010 at 7:16 am

Second

You practicing for the next Commonwealth Games team Yvette?
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October 25, 2010 10:17am
Bullitt

As sad as it is that the road toll is currently at seven some good will hopefully come of it that the Police won’t be able to say a low toll is due to their rediculous 4kmh tolerance. Maybe those 7 (+?) deserve some recognition as they have hopefully done a service for New Zealand.
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October 25, 2010 10:40am
starboard

So, you’d think they pay a little bit of tax.

But, according to the Stuff website, Google NZ paid just $7726 tax in the last financial year

…at least they paid something…Nhai Tahu’s cluster of companies are registered as a charity for fuck sake and as such PAY NO TAX !!
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October 25, 2010 10:46am
Radman

From this morning’s Herald:

Having appointed Penny Hulse as his deputy mayor, Mr Brown is exercising his executive power to finalise the chairs and members of the council committees. Who gets the top jobs and therefore bigger salaries will be a test of his leadership and a pointer to what he hopes will be a “collaborative” council to deliver his vision.

The base salary for councillors is $80,000. The salaries for committee chairs have yet to be set.

The committee structure will be announced on Thursday.

Brown should give chair roles to at least two centre-right councillors. That would show unity and keep the wolves at bay for a while. That’s what my advice to him would be. My choices would be Cameron Brewer and Penny Webster.

Anyway, the countdown is on to the start of the Suuuuuuuuuuper City………….3,2,1 go!

Another from the Herald:

Malcolm’s agent did not return calls yesterday, but the actor told the Sunday Star-Times that she did not mind being unpopular while fighting for a good cause.

“I really believe in this stuff. I believe in workers’ rights.”

“I think it’s fair, what we asked for, so I’m hoping that people are rational enough to see that. I guess we’ll see what the future holds.

I think it’s unfair. Therefore noo agreement on terms!

I believe in workers’ rights too. But I don’t believe in blackmail. And I don’t believe in wealth destructioin to the tune of $700million. In a race bewteen workers’ rights and $700million to our economy I know what horse I’d back!!!
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October 25, 2010 10:53am
Yvette

Does anyone else wonder what the road toll might be if the police didn’t make an annual song and dance about it and just got quietly on with the job?

And just a thought on Malcolm
If you start a negotiation with a world-wide ban on a movie, what have you left to manoeuvre with – fucking nothing! Doesn’t she know anything about plot-development, deepening storyline, drama?
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October 25, 2010 11:04am
Luc Hansen

Google NZ paid just $7726 tax in the last financial year.

Surely we should be grateful for small mercies?

Maybe today’s Hobbit marchers should add a couple of placards demanding Google gets refunded.
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October 25, 2010 11:12am
big bruv

Are you going to the protest Luc?

If so why not take along a ‘I support the CTU” banner?
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October 25, 2010 11:19am
Redbaiter

What makes the internet such a worthwhile resource.

Great article here on windpower and derelict turbines all over the world. Even in places where the trees grow sidewards. Windpower is a sham and a fraud.

Read how con artists and scammers have made a fortune from gullible fools in government issuing subsidies for an idea that just will not work. Most of the blame for this waste and damage and environmental degradation can be sheeted home to environmental groups- brainwashed school children victimised by quasi-religious academics, power seeking socialist liars posturing as Green Party politicians and other leftist loons, and all paid for of course by the ever suffering taxpayer, and most of us knew it was a scam right from the start-

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html
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October 25, 2010 11:43am
Redbaiter

Marxists Destroy California

California Is Broke – 19 Reasons Why It May Be Time For Everyone To Leave The State Of California For Good

Have a look at the 19 reasons. I’d guess you could easily apply them to NZ, with a few extras thrown in as a result of NZ’s massive race problem (The Maori Party).

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/california-is-broke-19-reasons-why-it-may-be-time-for-everyone-to-leave-the-state-of-california-for-good
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October 25, 2010 11:48am
big bruv

“#11 According to one survey, approximately 1 in 4 Californians under the age of 65 had absolutely no health insurance last year.”

I do not care who is in power, Democrats, Republicans or even the Tea Party loonies, having 25% of your people effectively unable to access health care is indefensible.
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October 25, 2010 11:54am
Redbaiter

“having 25% of your people effectively unable to access health care is indefensible.”

The fool Bruv heartily repeating left wing mainstream media propaganda as usual. God you’re a useless prick. When will you learn to stop believing what these people tell you? Its gormless craven low IQ idiots like you, who buy so gullibly into left wing talking head propaganda, and are such easy meat for leftist lies, and rush about enthusiastically repeating those lies, who have allowed the left to destroy California.
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October 25, 2010 12:01pm
big bruv

Yep..I expected as much from the senile old idiot, no rational debate, no explanation as to why 25% of the people are effectively unable to access health care just another boring tirade about the left blah..blah..blah.

Oh, Russell, I do not live in California, and I am sorry to say that neither do you, we have done NOTHING to allow the left to destroy California.
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October 25, 2010 12:09pm
Redbaiter

” no rational debate, ”

Hhahahahh.. NO RATIONAL DEBATE….!!!?????

A craven coward who turns every thread he participates in into a flame war. A sick no argument liberal whose only contribution to any discussion is a myriad of completely unsubstantiated false allegations, lies and smears. A mindless hate merchant who leaves his personal attack messages all over other people’s blogs he’s so obsessed by that hate.

..and you now want RATIONAL DEBATE??

FFS.. Go away you useless time wasting shit head. Like I’m going to waste my time telling you why you are wrong? Nobody who behaves like you is worth that time or effort, and that you don’t know the real story yourself anyway is proof of what a loser you are.
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October 25, 2010 12:14pm
big bruv

Russell.

Please get help, you need it.
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October 25, 2010 12:24pm
Viking2

wreck1080 (1,273) Says:
October 25th, 2010 at 10:11 am

Google NZ sold $150,000,000 of advertising to NZ customers.

I wouldn’t have a clue about their overheads, but, I’d imagine they’d make a few million bucks profit from NZ operations at the very least.

So, you’d think they pay a little bit of tax.

But, according to the Stuff website, Google NZ paid just $7726 tax in the last financial year.

How many elderly hip operations could have been done if google paid the fair amount of tax? How many lives could have been saved?

What happened to Googles “do no evil?” mantra?

Yes well we have discussed this many times before. All Transactions are booked to Ireland and just are like those that import oversea’s products such as music on line and pay no GST because they use a credit card or paypal etc to do the transaction.
Now I always considered GST to be a good Tax but more and more I am moving to the idea of a transaction tax.
Simple, easy to charge, no distortions, and the more we do on line the more necessary it will become. Better than GST because it captures everything and there are simply no exceptions. Can’t be manipulated like gst.

Its a good subject for solid debate.
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October 25, 2010 12:31pm
Redbaiter

Lame leftists posturing as right wingers and who buy into every stupid argument the left put out there allowed the Progressives to destroy California. Putty in the hands of the Socialists, they helped them destroy a great state, just like they’ve helped them destroy the great country of NZ. Nobody said you lived in Kalifornia you incompetent fool, and you’ve got no idea where I live. (or even what my name is for that matter) The phrase, if you could ever develop the intelligence needed for even average reading ability was “Its gormless craven low IQ idiots like you.”

And it was. Simpleton gullible fools like you allowed the left to destroy Kalifornia and you’re doing the same in NZ.
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October 25, 2010 12:34pm
Fletch

Here’s another good video from Rightchange.com.
The story about little Barry Obama and the American Money Tree….

LOL

It’s true though.

LINK
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October 25, 2010 1:39pm
joe90

You’ll like this Fletch, witch burning in Kenya.
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October 25, 2010 1:48pm
Fletch

joe90, horrible, but your point is?
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October 25, 2010 1:50pm
Kris K

Redbaiter 11:43 am,

Great article here on windpower and derelict turbines all over the world. Even in places where the trees grow sidewards. Windpower is a sham and a fraud.

Read how con artists and scammers have made a fortune from gullible fools in government issuing subsidies for an idea that just will not work.

When is the world going to wake up to the fact that so called ‘Green Energy’ is one of the greatest shams sold to the taxpayers of most Western nations? Notice, too, that many of these wind farms were in (Marxist) California – which leads on to your next article which highlights how the Marxists have taken over the state of California:

Redbaiter 11:48 am,

Marxists Destroy California

California Is Broke – 19 Reasons Why It May Be Time For Everyone To Leave The State Of California For Good

Have a look at the 19 reasons. I’d guess you could easily apply them to NZ, with a few extras thrown in as a result of NZ’s massive race problem (The Maori Party).

Yep – if you want to observe how the great socialist/Marxist experiment is working out you need go no further than the state of California. And yet despite this much of the Western world, including New Zealand, is merrily following along behind this example and implementing many/most of the same failed Marxist methods.

The video in the article showing the tent city of those recently unemployed is quite scary, and shows just how quickly poverty can hit home to even those who have trades and experience behind them. How long till we here in NZ get to this stage where we, too, may have similar tent cities popping up if the Marxist experiment here is allowed to continue?

Are you listening John Key?
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October 25, 2010 3:52pm
Redbaiter

“Are you listening John Key?”

He’s not listening. He’s still in the thrall of the soft right Marxists and Keynesians who posture as NZ’s opposition to socialism. I wrote a post on CR about it-

http://falfn.com/CrusaderRabbit/?p=2466

This all could have been avoided.
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October 25, 2010 3:59pm
Kris K

Redbaiter 3:59 pm,

Excellent post, Red – I encourage others to read it and establish where exactly you fit on the political/ideological spectrum. I think many, in reality, are little better than useful idiots to the cause of Marxism if the truth be known.
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October 25, 2010 4:31pm
Redbaiter

“I think many, in reality, are little better than useful idiots to the cause of Marxism if the truth be known.”

Yep, and they have enabled them for decades.
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October 25, 2010 4:47pm
big bruv

Kris K

I read it (anything for a laugh I suppose) there is nothing new in there, it is the same old extremist shit that Russell has been banging on about for as long as he has been ‘contributing’ to this site.

I am not surprised that you agree with Russell, both of you say you support minimum government and minimum state interference yet you both would have no problem at all shoving your religious views down our throats.

You both claim to be all for freedom yet you both seem determined to shut down anybody who does not agree with you or share your Tea party view of the world.

Having the left in power is never a good thing, but I have to say that the idea of living under Tea party ideology is just as frightening.
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October 25, 2010 5:05pm
dad4justice

Oh look big blowhard blouse has ruined another thread. Get a life creepy.
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October 25, 2010 5:15pm
Kris K

big bruv 5:05 pm,

You both claim to be all for freedom yet you both seem determined to shut down anybody who does not agree with you or share your Tea party view of the world.

If “speaking the truth” is to be equated with “shut[ting] down anybody who does not agree”, then long may it continue.

Don’t you love the emotiveness employed by those on the soft-right? I think, in truth, they’re just afraid of serious and honest debate, and they therefore resort to smearing their opponents; lest their true nature is exposed.
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October 25, 2010 5:17pm
Redbaiter

“Don’t you love the emotiveness employed by those on the soft-right? I think, in truth, they’re just afraid of serious and honest debate, and they therefore resort to smearing their opponents; lest their true nature is exposed.”

So true of this idiot using the handle Big Bruv. Just a complete moron with nothing but cowardly smears and false allegations, or the most trite and inconsistent infantile drivel you would ever see. Paper thin political perceptions. A simpleton knuckle dragger worth nothing more than ridicule.

The kind of sorry gape jawed fool who has been enabling the left for decades.
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October 25, 2010 5:20pm
dad4justice

big bruv is a turnip sucker with the IQ of a peanut. Don’t be fooled by this childish imbecile – it is no right-winger. This blouse is yellow to the core.
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October 25, 2010 5:21pm
wikiriwhis business

How China’s taking over Africa, and why the West should be VERY worried

By Andrew Malone
Last updated at 4:16 PM on 18th July 2008

On June 5, 1873, in a letter to The Times, Sir Francis Galton, the cousin of Charles Darwin and a distinguished African explorer in his own right, outlined a daring (if by today’s standards utterly offensive) new method to ‘tame’ and colonise what was then known as the Dark Continent.

‘My proposal is to make the encouragement of Chinese settlements of Africa a part of our national policy, in the belief that the Chinese immigrants would not only maintain their position, but that they would multiply and their descendants supplant the inferior Negro race,’ wrote Galton.

‘I should expect that the African seaboard, now sparsely occupied by lazy, palavering savages, might in a few years be tenanted by industrious, order-loving Chinese, living either as a semidetached dependency of China, or else in perfect freedom under their own law.’

Despite an outcry in Parliament and heated debate in the august salons of the Royal Geographic Society, Galton insisted that ‘the history of the world tells the tale of the continual displacement of populations, each by a worthier successor, and humanity gains thereby’.

A controversial figure, Galton was also the pioneer of eugenics, the theory that was used by Hitler to try to fulfil his mad dreams of a German Master Race.

Eventually, Galton’s grand resettlement plans fizzled out because there were much more exciting things going on in Africa.

But that was more than 100 years ago, and with legendary explorers such as Livingstone, Speke and Burton still battling to find the source of the Nile – and new discoveries of exotic species of birds and

animals featuring regularly on newspaper front pages – vast swathes of the continent had not even been ‘discovered’.

Yet Sir Francis Galton, it now appears, was ahead of his time. His vision is coming true – if not in the way he imagined.

An astonishing invasion of Africa is now under way.

In the greatest movement of people the world has ever seen, China is secretly working to turn the entire continent into a new colony.

Reminiscent of the West’s imperial push in the 18th and 19th centuries – but on a much more dramatic, determined scale – China’s rulers believe Africa can become a ‘satellite’ state, solving its own problems of over-population and shortage of natural resources at a stroke.

With little fanfare, a staggering 750,000 Chinese have settled in Africa over the past decade. More are on the way.

The strategy has been carefully devised by officials in Beijing, where one expert has estimated that China will eventually need to send 300 million people to Africa to solve the problems of over-population and pollution.

The plans appear on track. Across Africa, the red flag of China is flying. Lucrative deals are being struck to buy its commodities – oil, platinum, gold and minerals. New embassies and air routes are opening up. The continent’s new Chinese elite can be seen everywhere, shopping at their own expensive boutiques, driving Mercedes and BMW limousines, sending their children to exclusive private schools.

The pot-holed roads are cluttered with Chinese buses, taking people to markets filled with cheap Chinese goods. More than a thousand miles of new Chinese railroads are crisscrossing the continent, carrying billions of tons of illegally-logged timber, diamonds and gold.

New horizons? Mugabe has said:’We must turn from the West and face the East’
The trains are linked to ports dotted around the coast, waiting to carry the goods back to Beijing after unloading cargoes of cheap toys made in China.

Confucius Institutes (state-funded Chinese ‘cultural centres’) have sprung up throughout Africa, as far afield as the tiny land-locked countries of Burundi and Rwanda, teaching baffled local people how to do business in Mandarin and Cantonese.
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October 25, 2010 5:24pm
Redbaiter

“How China’s taking over Africa, and why the West should be VERY worried”

Sorry. Don’t get your concerns here. Don’t you Libertarians customarily advocate a non-interventionist overseas policy? This is what you get as a result. They (the Chicoms) would have taken over Iraq too if the Americans hadn’t intervened. They might even still do it there is so much anti-Americanism about now. So what is it? Are you for the Americans or The Chicoms?
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October 25, 2010 5:29pm
wikiriwhis business

Well Red, all I know is the US will never leave the ME

And this is why

Search Zion oil. Huge gas and oil reserves found in Israel that the media has completely ignored.

And don’t forget, JK advised our children to learn Chinese.
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October 25, 2010 5:35pm
Redbaiter

So fucking what. The question still stands, and you haven’t answered it. Do you want the Chicoms to get the oil?
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October 25, 2010 5:36pm
big bruv

Kris K

It seems you have been adopted by our two resident idiots (Russell and Peter), any time you do want to debate an issue then I am as keen as mustard.

By the way, is the “soft right” you way of describing anybody who does not believe in god?
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October 25, 2010 5:37pm
Redbaiter

“I am as keen as mustard.”

You might well be that keen, but you’re way down on the necessary intellectual resources. Apart from your obsession to lie and cheat and misrepresent that is.

Never mind, at least you picked something that is the right colour for you.
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October 25, 2010 5:39pm
wikiriwhis business

No one will get Israeli Oil.

The East and the ME may well bring on WW3.

Communism and Islam are the two dominators of the near future.

The ME will fight hand and tooth against the Godless communists and Israel will probably be surrounded

When China or the Arabs turn against them.
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October 25, 2010 5:42pm
Redbaiter

So you’re bleating about Africa. What’s the solution?
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October 25, 2010 5:45pm
big bruv

“Never mind, at least you picked something that is the right colour for you.”

Did you not say you were a member of the ACT party Russell?
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October 25, 2010 5:48pm
wat dabney

“But, according to the Stuff website, Google NZ paid just $7726 tax in the last financial year.How many elderly hip operations could have been done if google paid the fair amount of tax? How many lives could have been saved?”

Conversely of course, Google provides hundreds of millions of dollars worth (at least) of services to New Zealanders absolutely free.

As a private user I use Google all the time to find information, to compare costs of purchases, to use its satellite and street maps, its email service etc. And I use Youtube for music, lectures and how-tos. My consumer surplus must run into the hundreds of dollars each year.
And it is equally essential as business. No IT person now functions without Google. It lets them quickly identify problems and just as quickly come up to speed on different tools etc. It has had a transforming effect and drastically increased productivity.

So in fact that’s probably billions of dollars worth of utility provided free to New Zealanders and New Zealand businesses. How many elderly hip operations could you buy for that amount of money if people had to pay? How many lives could have been saved?
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October 25, 2010 5:49pm
dad4justice

big blouse is the ultimate example of the soft right. I mean to say the coward hides behind its internet name. These gutless soft right creeps are always calling for people to be shot as they have an incredibly small penis.

These soft right types are always to frightened and insecure to debate face to face. They are full of hate and the keyboard is their therapy.
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October 25, 2010 5:50pm
big bruv

Peter

Your obsession with my penis really must stop, you made good progress the other night when you decided to unburden yourself and come out of the closet so it is disappointing to see you regress this way.

However, I will say the same thing now as I said back then, I am not interested in you sexually Peter, deal with it and move on.
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October 25, 2010 5:53pm
dad4justice

Soft right creeps usually try to label their opposition as homosexual ’cause they normally have a brain the size of a caraway seed.

I have hundreds of emails from this oddball big bruv calling me a poofter. I really feel sorry for such a loser in life. Stop ruining this blog you sicko.
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October 25, 2010 5:55pm
Redbaiter

“Did you not say you were a member of the ACT party Russell?”

You say you want to debate but you have the reading and comprehension skills of a goldfish. Half of what you write here is nonsense that only arises because you cannot read. The other half is dishonest and cowardly smears. (exampled here by your incredibly weak allegations of homosexuality relating to D4J)

Your impact on this blog (and the complete blogosphere for that matter) is about the same as some 14 year old half witted political neophyte. You are a drooling time wasting idiot who should fuck off out of politics and focus on social or sport forums. The left of course would be deeply disappointed to see you retire, but I doubt anyone else would.
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October 25, 2010 5:56pm
big bruv

Russell

Oh go on…you would miss me, just think, there would be nobody else to get inside that head of yours…..
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October 25, 2010 5:59pm
dad4justice

For the record what is big bruv’s proper name? I want to book this insane creep into a secure mental facility. Really folks this sick unit is unfit.
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October 25, 2010 5:59pm
Redbaiter

“there would be nobody else to get inside that head of yours”

Hahha.. you’re just another commie enabler Bruv. One of thousands. Just substantially more stupid than most of them.
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October 25, 2010 6:00pm
dad4justice

I know reds real name and I have had very enjoyable face to face meetings with several other kiwi bloggers but this creep takes the cake. Really this madman is insane. Soft right types like this blouse fool are always timid cowards.
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October 25, 2010 6:03pm
wikiriwhis business

‘So you’re bleating about Africa. What’s the solution?’

Africa is the only region where China is overtly colonising.

I would suggest they are biding their time until the US economy truly flattens

and China can fully colonise with little resistance.

Fiji has been bribed by China over a period of time for shipping berths.

So far Fiji has resisted. I feel Liarbour strongly attacked and made a case of Fiji to take them out of the Commonwealth to force their hand towards China.

In the present economic scenario, what solution can there be.

Fatalism dictates China will bide their time with its wealth and future projections could see them transferring troops to Africa.

The Communist cause is no stranger to Africa and the red flag could win a bloodless coup supported by African govts.

Every bullet fored by a US trooper has been paid for by Bejing. If the US runs out of reserves, and owing billions to China, thier days of resistance to Chinese imperialism are over.

It seems the Obama administration is signifying its intention to submit.
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October 25, 2010 6:03pm
the bird is the word

Who’s Russell? Redbaiter?
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October 25, 2010 6:04pm
big bruv

Nah Russell, not a commie enabler at all.

Just an average bloke who does not see reds under every bed, just a bloke who does not sit naked watching Glenn Beck, just a bloke who is happy to admit that Sarah Palin is one hot looking chick but that she is also bat shit mad, and, just a bloke who dislikes extremists of any type.
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October 25, 2010 6:04pm
dad4justice

big blouse is really Helen’s communist twin sister , it lives in a cave with many other moonbats.
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October 25, 2010 6:06pm
Redbaiter

“not a commie enabler at all.”

Every bit of one Bruv. Amoral cowards like you are what the left love most of all. So easy to manipulate.
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October 25, 2010 6:17pm
dad4justice

Can you PLEASE stop sending emails big blouse. Look here ####you really are skating on thin ice. Please heed this warning ####. FFS this is beyond a sick joke.
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October 25, 2010 6:18pm
Redbaiter

“Africa is the only region where China is overtly colonising”

Sorry, read that message twice but couldn’t see what you were suggesting as a remedy to China’s colonisation of Africa. Do you have one or not?
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October 25, 2010 6:19pm
nickb

D4J maybe if you just ignored Brett he would go away. Can’t be that hard.
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October 25, 2010 6:36pm
Lucia Maria

Linley Boniface wrote a great opinion piece in today’s Dominion Post, on the great unmentionable in today’s NZ, leaving children under the age of 14 at home alone. I just had to comment. This is one of those instances where I have hope for NZ’s MSM.
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October 25, 2010 6:39pm
Lucia Maria

Big Bruv,

Extremists are typically the only people that are passionate enough about any issue to get out there and change things.
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October 25, 2010 6:40pm
big bruv

Lucia

Sorry but I simply cannot agree with you on that one.

Passionate people might make change, but extremists always end up making things worse in the end.

Show me an extremist and I will show you a dictator.
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October 25, 2010 6:44pm
wat dabney

“Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice“
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October 25, 2010 6:49pm
Redbaiter

“Show me an extremist and I will show you a dictator.”

See what I mean? The guy is just a clueless retard.
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October 25, 2010 6:49pm
big bruv

Now, now Russell, play nice.
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October 25, 2010 6:51pm
Redbaiter

Yawn……

A Grade Moron.
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October 25, 2010 6:53pm
dad4justice

Now, now Brett, play with your lice.
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October 25, 2010 6:53pm
starboard

Minimum government, low taxes, individual responsibility and maximum liberty.

..good reading on CR Redbaiter. Thanks.
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October 25, 2010 7:05pm
Redbaiter

Subject: Lou Pritchett’s Open Letter to President Obama

The author, Lou Pritchett, is a well-known public speaker who retired after a successful 36-year career as the VP World Sales for Proctor and Gamble.

Lou Pritchett

Foremost Leader in Change Management

Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America’s true living legends- an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world’s highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management. Lou changed the way America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as “partnering.” Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.

AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA

Dear President Obama:

You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.

You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.

You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.

You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.

You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.

You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don’t understand it at its core.

You scare me because you lack humility and ‘class’, always blaming others.

You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail.

You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the ‘blame America’ crowd and deliver this message abroad.

You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.

You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.

You scare me because you prefer ‘wind mills’ to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.

You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.

You scare me because you have begun to use ‘extortion’ tactics against certain banks and corporations.

You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.

You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.

You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.

You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.

You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaughs, Hannitys, O’Relllys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.

You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.

Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.

Lou Pritchett
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October 25, 2010 7:06pm
Redbaiter

“..good reading on CR Redbaiter. Thanks.”

Thanks to you Starboard. Appreciate the compliment. Never steer to port. 🙂
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October 25, 2010 7:09pm
Lucia Maria

Big Bruv,

What is your definition of an extremist? Do you limit it to Wikipedia’s, or is your definition broader? Do you include anyone who’s view of anything is more extreme than yours, or do you limit it to just what is considered more extreme than what the majority of people think? In other words, do you consider the word extremist to be a political label or a description of a person’s views?
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October 25, 2010 7:20pm
Redbaiter

“Just an average bloke”

He isn’t of course. Bruv is a lying sneaking coward, and if that’s what being the “average bloke” is all about then that’s a social spectrum that is in much bigger trouble than I ever understood. A lowlife like you Bruv would never be seen on my boat on a fishing trip, or at an inter-school footy game, or at any backyard barbecue I might attend. Most average blokes I know have got a modicum of self respect and a code of behaviour that rejects the kind of carry on you are so well known for. You’re to the average bloke as Ted Bundy is to cheer squads.
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October 25, 2010 7:31pm
big bruv

Lucia

The most apt definition of an extremist given where we are discussing this topic would be Redbaiter.

In Redbaiters world only he has he answers, only he has the solution, so much so that he has taken to speaking in the third person.

Redbaiter has no time for the opinions of others, he cannot and will not debate an issue as he is often unable to defend his stance, when he does it is usually in the form of cut and paste given that he very rarely has an original thought.

Often people like Redbaiter are disciples of others, they muddle along in life, not quite sure what it is that pisses them off so much, then, they stumble across a person who clarifies it all for them, in Redbaiters case it was Glenn Beck.

You see the same style or type of post from him time and time again, anybody who speaks out against him is dealt with in classic Alynski style, those that come a bit close to exposing him for the fraud (or nut job) that he undoubtedly is are subject to the most vociferous abuse.

So there you go Lucia, to me an extremist is somebody who has often had a near religious experience, so touched are they with their “awakening” that they just cannot believe that everybody else does not feel the same way, of course the real problem comes when those people obtain positions of power.

Thankfully, that will never happen in Redbaiters case.
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October 25, 2010 8:06pm
Lucia Maria

Big Bruv,

…to me an extremist is somebody who has often had a near religious experience, so touched are they with their “awakening” that they just cannot believe that everybody else does not feel the same way, of course the real problem comes when those people obtain positions of power.

Yet, in a comment to Kris, you talk about “extremist shit” and his and Redbaiter’s “Tea party view of the world”. Would you consider anyone with such a view to be an extremist as well?

I’ve noticed in that Wikipedia link this sentence :

The act of labeling a person, group or action as extremist is sometimes claimed to be a technique to further a political goal — especially by governments seeking to defend the status quo, or political centrists.

The Tea Party movement is a major threat to the status quo. Just imagine if something similar got off the ground here. National would be dead in the water, or needing to massively revise it’s direction. Actually become a conservative party (as many think they are) in order to survive.
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October 25, 2010 8:32pm
big bruv

Lucia

Perhaps we should stop beating about the bush here, if you want me to say that I think all Tea party supporters are extremists then you are going to be disappointed.

Silly…yes
Missguided….yes
Pawns being used in the ongoing religious battle within USA poltics…yes
Pawns being used by the gun lobby…hell yes
True defenders of democracy and liberty……..Hell NO.
Extremists……no, not generally.

What most Tea party nutters do not realise is that they are playing right into the hands of the left, all that they will succeed in doing is gifting B Hussein Messiah Obama another term in office, a united right (free from the shackles of the religious right) would piss in next time around.
The Tea party’s insistence on pushing Sarah Palin is the best example of their blinkered vision, a recent poll had Obama’s approval ratting at 46%, however, when you offered those same voters the choice between Obama and Sarah Palin his support level shot up to 53%.

The only thing the Tea party movement is a threat to is the right, in doing so they are going to see Obama serve out his two terms in office and the rest of the world just cannot afford that to happen.
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October 25, 2010 8:53pm
dad4justice

Oh Brett go shovel your deranged horse shit somewhere else you hateful sod. What a twisted crackpot.
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October 25, 2010 8:56pm
the bird is the word

@big bruv

“it is the same old extremist shit that [Redbaiter] has been banging on about for as long as he has been ‘contributing’ to this site”

Hmmm. I agree with most of what Redbaiter says. And good on him. Hope he continues ‘contributing’ for a long time.
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October 25, 2010 11:03pm
jcuknz

The basic point about the appalling situation in the States is that while anyone can get emergency care by going to a hospital about 25% of the population cannot get elective care unless they have the money to pay for it. That includes going to a doctor. This is not leftwing propaganda Redbaiter but the facts of the matter. Writing as one with connections to the American health service. Even illegals get it from hospitals.
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October 26, 2010 2:46am
Viking2

What in Gods name does Stephen Joyce think he’s doing?
Donating another$55 million to wasteful universities whist taking it away from trade training. Taking it from the very people who need it to give to the intelligency to waste.
Right now we need to be training young people in practical work skills like engineering, cooking, catering, and a whole host of skills that cater for the non academic young people and he stealing even those meagre funds from that sector.
Yea Gods we even need to train truck drivers with a very big serious shortage looming and a $5000 bill for a license.

We need to train broadband techies, power line techies, etc etc. Thats done in the workshop and on the job. No nerd will do these things. It will be fun to allocate 1.5 billion to super fast latest whizz broadband but have no one capable of connecting the cables.
Really, I thought Joyce had some brain power but?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10682975

Just another attack on the young people, especially young men.
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