General Debate 8 January 2009

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MyNameIsJack

If you’re going to have a bail out, at least make it for something worthwhile.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10550982
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January 8, 2009 1:49pm
Frank

“Methinks Phil Goff protesteth too much” about the steps National are taking to combat the economic downturn caused largely by The Labour-Led Government’s previous Largess over 9 years. The Bush Trillion Dollar bail out is only creating a Time Bomb for the rest of the World.

“Methinks John Minto protesteth too much” re Israel’s self Defense Policy
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January 8, 2009 2:21pm
Inventory2

Stuff’s carrying a very unflattering photo of Minto and his rent-a-mob from today, so it’s a must for a caption contest!!

http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2009/01/minto-caption-contest.html
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January 8, 2009 2:29pm
Seamonkey Madness

I think it’s great there is an opposing view to John Minto and his fellow protestors outside the ASB Tennis venue.

A lone Israeli demonstrator stood opposite the group with the sign reading “Minto supports Hamas Murderers. Hamas murders hope.”

“I’m just supporting peace. It’s as simple as that,” the protester told NZPA.”

Got to love the sign. 🙂
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January 8, 2009 2:29pm
joeAverage

YER go back into the hole the muslims pulled you out of,minto,a old fuck WELL passed your used by date,WHAT only 20 protesters (giggle) (all his hangers on)
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January 8, 2009 3:15pm
dime

I flew from Melbourne to Auckland last night. In front of me were 2 kids by themselves.. probably 12 and 8 (i guess)…

anyway, flying into auckland i heard them rank the cities in NZ by carbon emissions or some crap like that.. apparently auckland is the worst with canterbury second..

i hope they arent learning this shit in school!

dimes kids will be getting a private education!
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January 8, 2009 3:17pm
Ryan Sproull

I suspect that a number of people who would otherwise protest the Israeli offensive did not agree with protesting a sports event.
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January 8, 2009 3:37pm
Inventory2

Alternative view Ryan – I suspect that a number of people don’t actually support the Hamas-led Palestinians, and don’t agree that they are the victims of this situation.
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January 8, 2009 3:45pm
chfr

Just seen this on Stuff http://www.stuff.co.nz/4812831a11.html at last a council who does some research before destroying a dog just protecting himself.

The kid seems a lovely piece of work also.
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January 8, 2009 3:49pm
Ryan Sproull

Inventory,

That’ll be true as well. But if you compare the numbers of previous protests to this one, I think the difference is the form of protest. I attend protests, but I don’t think I would attend this one. I don’t think it’s fair on the tennis player, especially when she’s not representing Israel.
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January 8, 2009 3:49pm
MT_Tinman

# dime (800) Says:
January 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

I flew from Melbourne to Auckland last night. In front of me were 2 kids by themselves.. probably 12 and 8 (i guess)…

anyway, flying into auckland i heard them rank the cities in NZ by carbon emissions or some crap like that.. apparently auckland is the worst with canterbury second..

i hope they arent learning this shit in school!

dimes kids will be getting a private education!

Damn Dime I agree with you.

What sort of teacher would allow Canterbury to be described as a city?
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January 8, 2009 3:53pm
PaulL

chfr: he squeezed the dogs testicles. Hmm. Natural selection anyone?
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January 8, 2009 3:53pm
Rakaia George

I’m loving the irony of that mother commenting on her kid’s facial injuries!
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January 8, 2009 3:55pm
Rex Widerstrom

chfr says:

The kid seems a lovely piece of work also.

I too am pleased the dog wasn’t destroyed. But you can hardly blame a 3 year old for the way he’s being raised – just take a look at the haircut (as it’s a single strip down the middle I’m assuming that’s not a result of any medical necessity but mum training him for a life of antisocial attitudes and behaviour).

The irony of the story is that while the dog’s owner would require a licence and have been checked to ensure his yard was a suitable environment in which to raise a dog, no such process is required of this little boy’s parents.
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January 8, 2009 3:56pm
joeAverage

Im confused, the muslims on the strip are human RABBITS ,THEY DONT WORK , BLUDGERS if it wasnt for the UN these fuckers would stave, 4 wifes + 5 kids each female to a male????? each wife breeding for ALLAH, yep FUCKEN RABBITS, opps lets give them millions for bonking, GO HAMAS get brewers drop , or get you country WORKING not killing
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January 8, 2009 4:00pm
dime

tinny – bahahaha
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January 8, 2009 4:04pm
MyNameIsJack

Who are the ryan Sproul haters here who give negkarma for reasoned debate. I know joeBelowAVERAGE only gets one vote, so hands up, who are the Ryanists?
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January 8, 2009 4:05pm
MyNameIsJack

chfr and Rex, did you notice this story?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4812787a11.html

maybe one story holds the answer to the other.
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January 8, 2009 4:08pm
joeAverage

MINTO a nasty old RACIST shitter
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January 8, 2009 4:16pm
big bruv

While I am sorry that this kid was bitten by the dog it comes as no surprise, no doubt the fucking useless parents thought it was fine to let their kid play with a strange dog unsupervised and no doubt they thought that the brat was just “expressing” himself while grabbing he dog by its balls.

However I do think the dog needs some training, clearly the dog should have bit the mother instead of the kid.
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January 8, 2009 4:22pm
big bruv

Joeaverage

Are you related to D4J?
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January 8, 2009 4:29pm
dad4justice

Shut up big blouse you gutless creep. Look email me and we will sort this you pathetic git. Got balls eunuch?
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January 8, 2009 4:31pm
joeAverage

NOPE NOPE AND NOPE and in case NOPE big Bruv but i feel we think alike on some subjects IE D4J and MYSELF, i THINK we dont always go with the flow ie like LEMMING posters
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January 8, 2009 4:34pm
MyNameIsJack

I have long suspected joebelow was either a d4j multi, or one of his offspring.

Nice to see daddio has stayed true to form and once again wants to “sort this out” which is d4j speak for “I’ll threaten to punch your head in until you make a time and place to meet and then I’ll run for cover like the pussy whipped wimp I am”.
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January 8, 2009 4:37pm
dad4justice

Look Jack is giving bb a hand. How odd? Things are not what they seem on blogosphere, a place where cowards and backstabbers excel. Beware wimps NZ. Bloggers event . Round ONE ! Knockout haha
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January 8, 2009 4:40pm
joeAverage

Sorry D4J for being sucked in by jackshit opps sorry,typo, by any other name ie tossier. Dont worry JACKthing , Mr Farrar who runs a GREAT blog knows my identity AND IT ISNT D4J , D4J(PLEASE) dont loose your rag as Mr Farrar PUNISHES the respondant (YOU AND ME ), NOT jack S ,not the shithead windup person (JUST LIKE OUR POLICE) jackthing if you are so smart , why havnt you checked out things, think, pink floyd (THICK AS A BRICK)THINK jackwant , theres blind and theres stupid
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January 8, 2009 4:52pm
Inventory2

joeAverage – sorry to be so anal, but Thick as a Brick was Jethro Tull, not Pink Floyd 😉
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January 8, 2009 4:56pm
dad4justice

Not worth the demerits ( real pity tho)
Goodbye Jackshit and billy bruv.
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January 8, 2009 4:57pm
joeAverage

OPPS MISTAKE(RARE) JETHRO TULL(NOT PINK FLOYD) ie ian anderson JACK off you have REALLY upset me, my god MY HONOUR is been stressed , IM THINKING of the track (MY GOD ),INSULTS from jackoff (soothing music)
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January 8, 2009 5:06pm
oranjemakker

Mynameisjack,

just saw your post on yesterdays debate re the Jimmy Choo/ AJ Park beat up on the poor lady with her little website. I read that story too and thought it was idiotic, and I suspect AJ park have gone and done this on their own, as apart from anything else its bad business for Jimmy Choo, makes them look real bad.

Anyway, i forwarded the story onto one of the Equity partners (who i know very well) of the Private Equity firm that owns Jimmy Choo (London based fund), and he has passed it onto Jimmy Choo management in London. Lets see if they drop the case. Will keep you posted.

If AJ park have done this without consultation with London i would hope they get an earful!
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January 8, 2009 5:12pm
joeAverage

Thanks Inventory2 i had (wish you were here) on my mind old age is catching up ,HELL i could have mentioned 29 palms ,by plant, that would have you scratching your head
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January 8, 2009 5:19pm
thedavincimode

re the great dog testicle grab backlash / three year old boy hairstyle clanger fiasco

First, the dog over-reacted. Any chap who has ever had their leg shagged by a dog, or witnessed the sorry spectacle of a spot of the old dog on dog anal appreciation will know that the dog in question was being a bit precious about this. Given the rather ambivalent attitude towards gender and species that is exhibited by dogs when it comes to the old rumpty pumpty department, they can hardly be surprised that they might receive the odd unwanted overture from time to time. A far more appropriate response might have been for the dog to say: “I’m sorry, but I’m just not that kind of dog”, or perhaps even: “… me … you … that haircut? … I don’t think so”; and then to have quitely shuffled off.

Second, the far greater concern is the prospect that mother might still have a few years of testicle grabbing left in her and that she prefers the male of her own species.
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January 8, 2009 5:41pm
Glutaemus Maximus

The kid not only has a curious hairstyle, but looks like a freekin Alien.

Just think had be had facial armour like Mummy he would have been OK.

The feral Bitch wanting the dog put down, because SHE had no control of her sprog. Good on the Authorities.

Bet she boils bunnies for fun.
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January 8, 2009 6:17pm
PhilBest

The Israel Defence Force has been amazing with their putting evidence on Youtube and the Web; that now renders all the anti-Israel lies in tyhe media even more utterly indefensible.

“Whale Oil” has been posting the best videos one after the other for days. I don’t expect DPF to do the same, this blog is a less concentrated one than “Whale Oil”; but I would like to put the tip out there for everyone. Visit Whale Oil Beef Hooked (on DPF’s blogroll) and get watching……..
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January 8, 2009 6:20pm
Rex Widerstrom

Goodness me… courtesy of Keeping Stock‘s blogroll I was reminded to pop over and see how Winston is doing.

Aside from his supporters arguing that no one should be entitled to dual citizenship (except those from the Mother Country, aparently… at least they haven’t forgotten Peter Brown already, which is more than I can say for the rest of NZ) and allegations that “bin Laden’s boy is coming to NZ” (??!!) I found this charming suggestion:

Maybe someone could lay a false complaint about Rodney with the IRD. That would take his eye off the ball for a few years!

I wouldn’t put it past some of the more deranged elements to be planning to avenge their fallen Messiah, since someone has prompted just such a review of my own tax affairs. Perhaps Rodney should be going over his last seven year’s of returns.
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January 8, 2009 7:07pm
Turpin

Good on you Phil B
I gave Ryan a pos karma today, was that wrong?

I hope the Israelis give it more stick right up to the 20th Jan when Wonder Boy takes his vows.
Unless the supreme court asks to see his birth certificate of course.
then they might keep going until the end of February!
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January 8, 2009 7:27pm
thedavincimode

Inventory2 says:

“Stuff’s carrying a very unflattering photo of Minto and his rent-a-mob from today, so it’s a must for a caption contest!!”

I2

Your suggestion alludes to a very interesting question. How should such a hapless and motley crew be described? A “flock” of abject fuckwits?? A “(particularly) small herd” of abject fuckwits?? A “gaggle” of abject fuckwits?? An “odd assortment” of complete and utter deadbeats”? A “modestly large pile of dogshit”. These are are interesting and, very important, questions.
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January 8, 2009 7:43pm
getstaffed

CNN are reporting that Hezbollah have just launched rockets at northern Israel.
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January 8, 2009 7:49pm
Steve

re the great dog testicle grab backlash / three year old boy hairstyle clanger fiasco.

The little arsehole got what was coming sooner or later.
The mother cries wolf, and yet she is the one responsible for leaving the child unattended. Will she learn from this?
Nope.
Seems the kid has done this before?
The taxpayer paid for treatment, but the taxpayer will continue to pay for the mother and little prick.
Social misfit mother will continue to blame anyone except herself.
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January 8, 2009 7:50pm
wikiriwhis business

Herald this morning

according to the media Global warning is officially a reality…. aussie is having a summer

Finger… throat… puke
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January 8, 2009 8:05pm
Ross Miller

I see Phil Goof has had a crack at National for not supporting Labour’s announced home insulation initiative.

Only problem with that is that the programme was unfunded.

Put these words in order ….. from mouth foot another in Labour

Get used to it Phil (and the other one) … your worst day in Government was better than your best day in Opposition.

Oh well, only another decade+ to go
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January 8, 2009 8:23pm
Inventory2

Excellent question thedavincimode – perhaps

* a rabble of Mintos
* a pod of stranded peaceniks (apologies to WhaleOil for the “pod” reference!)
* a dependancy of bludgers

Goodness, the mind boggles. We might have to explore this further on tomorrow’s Friday Forum!
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January 8, 2009 8:28pm
getstaffed

re Minto: he’s doing the equivalent of the aging rock-star comeback tour… when ones ‘star’ has fallen and the has-been is attracting more attention of the [tax] authorities than of the media.
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January 8, 2009 8:39pm
thedavincimode

I2

Quite like the “pod”. A “pod of pinkos”?

As in: “a pod of pinkos that think that in the event that Operation Jihad is successfull and radical islamic fruitcakes do in fact succeed in taking over the world despite Mr Oil’s marksmanship, by sucking up now they will become persona grata to these maniacs and avoid the ritual severing of the nuts from the lower abdomen and head from the shoulders.”

Hmmm. Not to sure about that theory. Memo to Minto: “start bowing in a north-westerly direction about 1500 times a day and put ‘Practical Jihad 101’ on his primary school curriculum” (although he has perhaps, already started with the latter).
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January 8, 2009 8:56pm
Patrick Starr

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Hey anyone concerned about the actions of Father Burns in Wellington the other day. If you want to put any pressure on the Catholic Church leave a comment on this church online magazine

http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=10984
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January 8, 2009 8:59pm
Inventory2

I rather liked Miles Davis’s description of Minto on RadioSport yesterday morning – using some good old cockney rhyming slang, he mused that Minto was a “merchant banker” 😉
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January 8, 2009 9:20pm
Rex Widerstrom

Rhyming slang I2? I can’t think of anything that rhymes that could possibly constitute a worse insult than actually being called a merchant banker 😀
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January 8, 2009 9:37pm
Patrick Starr

“Theft of $11.50 wine leads to week in jail”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10550997

well according to this precedent the Labour Party’s Aidan Smith will get nearly 3 years in the pokie?
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January 8, 2009 10:14pm
Southern Raider

Two people were lightly wounded when terrorists in Lebanon on Thursday morning fired three Katyusha rockets at the area of Nahariya in northern Israel.

Has to be Israel’s fault. Those nasty Jews causing trouble again. I hope John Minto starts protesting tomorrow about Israel not paying for the rockets getting fired at them.
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January 8, 2009 10:29pm
Southern Raider

Hanging round with Minto is akin to listening to some one hit wonder 80’s band.

He has an ego the size of the Sky Tower and needs to be seen making up shit in order to protest.
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January 8, 2009 10:31pm
LabourDoesntWork

The Hollow Sound of Anti-Israel Protests
http://voiceofrevolution.askdrbrown.org/2009/01/07/the-hollow-sound-of-anti-israel-protests/

If only the media did its job: think how many scumbags wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. And these pro-leftwing journalists think they are making a better world.
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January 8, 2009 10:48pm
Jack5

Fairfax newspapers continue to insult their readers with regular rants from Minto.
They won’t sell me a five-day week subscription to the Christchurch Press so I can avoid the raving leftist’s views, but switching to casual purchases of the paper appeal more every week.
The media think it’s fair to run anything that annoys people enough to be noticed. They think this increases interest and salability of their products. When will they wake up that infuriating readers this way has a cumulative effect that will eventually reduce readership/listenership/viewer numbers?
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January 8, 2009 10:51pm
Glutaemus Maximus

Lebanon joins in the Rocket attacks.

News on all UK Newspapers online.

Looks like the Iranians are going for broke.

Bastards.
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January 8, 2009 10:53pm
Southern Raider

Glutaemus,
The left drink their Chardonnay and recite that Israel is evil.

Anyone read up on the anti-semitism in Europe. Synagogues are being attacked, mobs harrassing Jews in London etc. But no mention on the MSM.

Hamas has stated they will not support a ceasefire, Hezbollah are ready for war. And still the left wing target Israel as the supposed aggressor.
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January 8, 2009 11:07pm
bharmer

# Patrick Starr (1215) Vote: Add rating 1 Subtract rating 0 Says:
January 8th, 2009 at 8:59 pm

Hey anyone concerned about the actions of Father Burns in Wellington the other day. If you want to put any pressure on the Catholic Church leave a comment on this church online magazine

http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=10984

What a total waste of everyone’s time that would be. It is a commercial website, and not an official organ of the church in any way whatsoever that I can see.
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January 8, 2009 11:13pm
Glutaemus Maximus

Well, it is time for the West to defend itself soon.

If the Arabs didn’t have oil, or you could trust the Russians this would have happened already.

I don’t want to live under Sharia law!
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January 8, 2009 11:16pm
Patrick Starr

so bharmer. it’s a magazine website, of course it’s commercial. What do you suggest? Fuck all??? …….and sit on your arse. Thought so
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January 8, 2009 11:16pm
bharmer

If you really want to contact the Catholic Church they are not hard to find
Try here http://www.wn.catholic.org.nz/?sid=128

But recall please that Gerry is one person and his actions as an individual are not representative of the church as an institution or the people in the pews. He is acting as an individual.
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January 8, 2009 11:23pm
Southern Raider

Bharmer we have sent emails to those pricks as well and still had no repsonse.

He’s an ordained minister of the church and therefore reponsible for his collective actions.

The Catholic Church by their silence are as guilty as that prick is
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January 9, 2009 12:38am
Patrick Starr

Thanks SR – beat me to the punch.

Bharmer. When any senior official of any profile entity acts like a fuckwit you usually find that entity will seek a public apology from the senior official, or apologise on their behalf, before they sincerely reprimand them – that is of course unless they condone their actions?

For Archbishop John Dew and Lyndsay Freer to try and say this guy Burns is entitled to act as an individual speaks volumes for how the church really feel

They are in the same boat as the terrorists – (hope it sinks fast)
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January 9, 2009 12:51am
vibenna

I used to be very concerned at Israeli oppression of the Palestinians, but over the last few years I have become more and more pro-Israeli. Here’s why.
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January 9, 2009 8:04am
Rakaia George

SR & PS – why are we surprised? The whole doctrine of the Catholic Church is based on the fact that you can do what you like as long as you say sorry afterwards…
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January 9, 2009 12:16pm
Chris2

Google Maps Street View Helps Find Kidnapped Child:

http://www.telegram.com/article/20090107/NEWS/901070289/1116

Here’s one that should be sent to the Privacy Commisioner to digest as humble pie!
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January 10, 2009 8:25am
Owen McShane

If someone seriously large made a “passing off” play on Jimmy Choo then had they not taken an action against our local infringer a defence would be that Jimmy Choo had chosen not to protect their trademark.

This is why Harrods had to move against the store on the West Coast and why Terry Ball had to move against the Nuns who wrote their own musical on Footrot flats.

Sadly our media have never taken intellectual property issues seriously and regard those who protect their private property as nasty rip off artists who attack helpless entrepreneurial New Zealanders.
Acdtually, the defenders are doing the New Zealanders a favour because if they do succeed and move off shore they will be hit later rather than sooner and it will cost much more money to start up a new trademark. Your trademarm is far more valuable than a patent in the long run and you need to take great care to get it right first time round. As Tamsin Cooper found who seemed to think that using her name would not attract the attention of Trelise Cooper.
Similarly, and shoe designer who decided to include the word Choo in their name was simply asking for it.
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