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Steve Otto(North Shore)

There must be a different Covid in the US, or Jaspinda is immune to it.
OR, people and camera will not recognise me when I have my mask on!
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June 1, 2022 8:04am
- I remember when
  
  Apparently now that Jacinda has had covid she has developed something called ‘natural immunity.’
  It seems it now works better than vaccination.
  A recent occurence.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:50am
  - kowtow
    
    In the run up to her Great Meeting With Washington Warlord I heard two different NZME reporters state , in trying to justify the meeting not being pulled , words to the effect ” she’s had it already so isn’t a risk” .
    
    No such thing as reinfection then ?
    
    Where’s the science ?
    
    Is this misinformation , disinformation or just plain old stupid wishful thinking .
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:04am
    - alloytoo
      
      According to a Danish study the chances of Omicron reinfection is 1 in 1800000.
      
      Which means (in theory) less than 5 people in NZ are likely to experience it.
      
      The real question is why mask mandates still apply to the increasing number of covid recovered in NZ?
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:33am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        “why mask mandates?”
        Control. Got a mask on? You are doing what Jaspinda said. Make up your own mind, even after a positive test and recovered? No way, Jaspinda will tell you when it is safe.
        When it is safe???? Hahahahaha!
        
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        June 1, 2022 2:53pm
    - Mummy
      
      Apparently you’re bulletproof for 3 months after having covid. Then all bets are off again.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:33am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Jaspinda will not like that. The NZ Princess has 5 more overseas trips this year!
        
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        June 1, 2022 2:54pm
    - Surely Knott
      
      If that’s the case then anyone who has had covid shouldn’t have to wear a mask in NZ when shopping. But that is not the rules at emergency orange traffic light. We are still under draconian restrictions due to a so called pandemic so she needs to adhere to the rules or remove the rules. To not wear a mask while setting the country to Orange light is doing a Boris, partying on while the rest of us live under restrictions. Remove the tyrannical traffic lights
      
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      June 1, 2022 1:50pm
    - The Feed
      
      Colour me surprised that misinformation, disinformation and the truth are entirely dependent on which politician is saying something, when they are saying it, and now where they are saying it.
      
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      June 1, 2022 2:50pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      You spelled Washington Gaylord wrong.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:00pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Best throw away the vaccines that don’t work anyway, and let everyone get Covid. Order in a few million antibody testing kits – which should have ben done on day one!
    And stop with the socialist control pr0paganda.
    Fucking Labour.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:21am
  - kiwimike
    
    She (Jacinda) won’t have natural immunity according to the US & EU docs I’ve been reading on substack.
    That is one reason people are getting Covid 2-3 times a year in UK.
    
    Covid appears to be shedding the T cells in the system and either the patient is still vulnerable or hasn’t shed the Covid virus when they get re-infected.
    
    The worry is that the patients immune system is less and even that they will become immune deficient/compromised to other infections.
    
    IE: a % of us all will die eventually.
    That’s why there is such a move against the CDC/FDA and Pfizer to fess up with the “real in fo” on it all.
    
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    June 1, 2022 4:38pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Sharon Murdoch, the “Stuff” cartoonist mocks a Pakeha man attempting to learn Te Reo.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/94869389/sharon-murdoch-cartoons
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June 1, 2022 8:05am
- Peter Lane
  
  Yes and we have the usual Luxon bashing attempt at humour from the ‘cartoonist’ in the Herald.
  
  Pathetic.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:08am
  - David Garrett
    
    Peter: Those quotation marks are completely justified. This silly woman isn’t a cartoonist’s arse.
    
    All the proper ones have either died or been canceled: Minhinick; Malcolm Evans; Garrick Tremain…
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:07am
    - alex Masterley
      
      I grew up with Sid Scales in the ODT, a cartoonist who followed in the steps of the great David Low. The people who are employed as “cartoonists” in both the Herald and Stuff arent fit to stand in the shadows of their predecessors.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:14am
      - kowtow
        
        ODT too.
        
        ‘The Otago Daily Times will not print work by cartoonist Garrick Tremain while it works through a “review process”, following it running a cartoon making light of the Samoan measles epidemic.”
        
        https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tremain-not-running-odt-during-review
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:44am
      - igm
        
        Remember Lodge and Heath?
        They would bury these socialist dropouts.
        Scott being the most vile of this current line-up of cartoonist misfits.
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:33am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Yes, money well spent so Murdoch can show which side of the PIJF she sits. Once upon a time political cartoons were satire, pointed and funny. This one was just pointed.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:09am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What happened to the cartoons rubbished the government? Why is it the job to upset the opposition? I seem to remember Helen Clark copping it daily, why is dizzy Cindy the worst pm in history, running the biggest failure of government in history not copping these cartoons?
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:47am
    - peterwn
      
      There are 55 million reasons why MSM will not publish cartoons taking the mickey out of Labour.
      Anyway surely people having a go at learning Te Reo should be encouraged and any cartoons about Te Reo should reflect this.
      Actually negative publicity is better than no publicity so the trick if for Chris to make the best of this.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:06am
      - Tomtoddy
        
        There is another reason – more subtle. Cartoonists need to accentuate a persons most prominent feature to ensure recognition. Example – Luxon’s bald head.
        
        Any cartoon of Ardern would have to emphasise her prominent teeth and raise the sceptre of her being likened to a horse. We do not want animal lovers offended do we?
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:32am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Rubbishing Luxon for learning Te Reo will back fire, WTF are white people only allowed to learn it when they say so
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:37am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        When Ardern said she wanted to learn Maori she was lauded by the media darlings. When Luxon actually takes lessons, he’s lambasted by the media.
        
        Bill English was castigated for his comments on Te Reo, despite learning it.
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:47pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Jaspinda copping those type of cartoons would be nasty and hurtful.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:28am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Why ? As I said Clark had to wear it, Luxon today has stated people can attack him as much as they like, he is not worried, why can Cindy not be shown up for the horse she is? Should edit Horses ass
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:39am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        G, I forgot the //
        But I was running along the lines of ‘feelz’ and not upsetting anyone!
        
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        June 1, 2022 3:01pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Maybe Ms Murdoch could reflect on a pakeha woman and her Maori speak, when she couldn’t recite the three articles of the TOW in Maori. Without prompting from behind by Sid Jackson. The Media Party are a hypocritical mob.
  
  Ahem, 35%, and falling!
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:11am
- Nukuleka
  
  Luxon, like all ‘pakeha’ men, will be damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Fortunately, I don’t think he will give a tuppeny you know what.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:12am
  - leoj
    
    He has already displayed his wokeness when claiming that he thought learning te reo was important.
    It’s not.
    Learn it if you want. Just don’t expect me to. I have no use for it.
    Ever since government depts have taken on their new names, they have turned to crap.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:24am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Maybe there is no Moari word for ‘percent?’//
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:13am
- kowtow
  
  Today’s Ferald cartoon is yet another Emmerson attck on Luxon.
  
  How queer.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:21am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Following up the Liebore attack ad on Monday.
    
    Unless the gummit can stump up more dosh for the Media Party, it will be fun watching the Ferald and Stuffed change their editorial policy so that they can align themselves with the party that their corporate advertisers are now switching allegiance to.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:55am
    - bjools
      
      Robertson was asked about the add.
      He said
      “we are keeping the opposition to account”
      Grant…..
      NOT YOUR JOB….your job is to run the country and manage the finances.
      THEIR job is to keep account of how YOU are doing your job.
      Q: Did you use taxpayer money to produce this add?…ie theft?
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:39am
      - Ehlana
        
        So he thinks Labour’s job is to hold National to account?
        
        Explains the last five years and makes them the natural party of opposition.
        
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        June 1, 2022 2:32pm
    - Thought Criminal
      
      Hundreds of millions has been set aside in the budget for public interest journalism and to combat “disinformation”. I’m surprised you haven’t read about it in the news //sarc
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:33am
- Opie
  
  The woman that drew that used to pick up shit at dog shows.
  
  Now she is just a rascist and an oxygen waster.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:22am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Yes, she is racist and sexist.
    And how terrible that an older white man has the cheek to learn Te Reo.
    Cultural misappropriation.
    Ms Murdoch looks to be an older white woman.
    Ok for her to learn Te Reo?
    Hypocracy – something those on the left seldom fail to deliver.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:41am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Are they suggesting he is not a real Māori, WTF is with these muppets, I think these rotten attacks on Luxon will push support behind him, media on both channels desperately trying to corner him to say comments made to him were racist, he was able to not answer that which was good to see, he refused to call them racist, and he never spoke a word in Te reo
      
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      June 1, 2022 8:52am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Oh it’s only racist when us old white males say things
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:44am
- greybeard
  
  “The kumara does not brag about its own sweetness”.
  But Sharon Murdoch’s latest offering shows that she still exhibits her own vileness.
  I think there is something terribly wrong with that woman.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:51am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    But the whole sweet of media hacks snd even part time colourists appear to be as rotten as her
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:53am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Whatever is wrong with Murdoch those who employ her are worse – a bunch of humourless, brainless crows.
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:25am
- I remember when
  
  The kumara does not brag about its own sweetness.
  Must be a sexist saying.
  Doesn’t seem to be bragging when it is the female kumara.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:54am
- Observer of Life
  
  Confirms no matter what Luxon does, it’s never going to be enough. Hopefully he will take the hint and just get on with being a true opposition.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:57am
  - peterwn
    
    Well, the recent series of poll results speak for themselves. Chris will be playing a cool game. He has many skills such as running an airline and successfully marketing OMO. This includes on what to pitch to different groups of people to achieve the best results.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:11am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Just move a little bit to the right, and stop being National Lite.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:39am
    - Jack5
      
      Steve Otto’s …stop being National Lite.
      
      Shouldn’t that be …stop being Labour Lite?
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:54am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Yer, they have a bit to travel to the right – even though Labour and Greens are on the edge of the flat earth, frothing at the mouth. LOL LOL LOL!
        
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        June 1, 2022 3:04pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Greens are Labour lite
        
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        June 1, 2022 7:06pm
  - kiwimike
    
    Luxon is woke, don’t hold your breath.
    Plus + The TOW is the founding document of NZ according to the National Party Constitution.
    
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    June 1, 2022 4:42pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      He can’t understand why the government is buying the media with 365 million, didn’t sound rose yo be saying it’s a waste of money
      
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      June 1, 2022 7:08pm
- graham
  
  I honestly don’t get the point of this cartoon at all.
  
  Is Ms. Murdoch attempting to ridicule Chris Luxon for learning Te Reo? I thought the idea of more people learning Te Reo – especially non-Maori – was being strongly encouraged nowadays.
  
  Is she poking the borax at Mr Luxon for pointing out that National is doing quite well? She can’t deny the simple truth that National is now polling higher than any other party, so … what does she expect him to do? Downplay it? “Oh, it’s not that great a result, really …” Any political leader is going to be happy about that sort of result.
  
  Is she trying – through gritted teeth – to kind of congratulate Chris Luxon? If so, she’s doing a poor job of it.
  
  Seriously, what is the point of this cartoon? It’s not funny, it’s not insightful, it doesn’t seem to be making any particular point. It baffles me.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:11am
  - leoj
    
    All can be explained by the fact that the left do not have a sense of humour.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:27am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Last night on TVOne News there was an article about increasing racist comments about Te Reo being spoken and used in the MSM.
    
    An example was given of some racist comments that were made about Christopher Luxon using Te Reo when he sent his condolences to Joe Hawke’s whanau.
    
    Christopher Luxon was interviewed and mentioned that he wasn’t phased by the negative comments and would keep up with his weekly lesson in Te Reo.
    
    The cartoon is mocking Luxon’s effort to learn Te Reo.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:40am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She is leftie scum, nothing to bae baffled about
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:42am
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Happy World Milk Day!
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June 1, 2022 8:06am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Do you mean Gypsy day…….woops
  Mooooving day?
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/rnz/complaint-over-use-gypsy-day-tvnz-upheld
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:12am
  - kowtow
    
    Another occasion for the perpetually offended to be offended .
    
    ‘A recent Otago Regional Council media release referred to Gypsy Day, but Dunedin city councillor Aaron Hawkins objected, saying the term ”gypsy” was often used as a slur against Roma people.’
    
    https://www.odt.co.nz/business/farming/dairy-industry-urged-take-care
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:31am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      He should look at how Roma people are treated in Ukraine where there are no far right Nazis.
      
      https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/11/23/attacked-and-abandoned-ukraines-forgotten-roma/
      
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      June 1, 2022 8:40am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You seem obsessed with attacking Ukraine. Don’t you think you should be deploying your faux concern on behalf of Romani people in countries where they face much more significant persecution, like Romania and Hungary, for example?
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:32am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        In reply to Milky, you miss the point yet again. A common occurrence.
        
        I am not attacking Ukraine, I have no reason to do so. I am simply pointing out that the US in particular, and their poodles in NATO are using the country and people of Ukraine as a tool to attack Russia, that’s EXACTLY what is happening here.
        It began in 2014 and the evidence is available in the recorded conversation in which Victoria Nuland declares who the leader of the country will be after the completion of the US directed and funded coup. A coup which gave real and actual power to far right nazis in the country, totally unproportional to their actual numbers.
        Zelensky is yet another US puppet. He will likely be disposed of soon in one way or another. I think his usefulness is coming to an end.
        This is the truth of what is happening in the country and it is tragic. But it is exactly the same playbook as every other country the US has “helped” in the last 80 years. They are a pox on the world, destruction and misery everywhere they intervene.
        This is accurate observation, it doesn’t mean support for Russia’s actions, but they are a direct and predictable outcome of US strategies in the region.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:46am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You must be so proud to be able to present such well-rehearsed summaries of Russkie propaganda. Best of all, the Internet Research agency doesn’t even need to pay you to spread your disgusting lies to support the Russian murder of tens of thousands of people.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:50am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Milky, point out which parts of what I wrote are inaccurate, or as per your eloquent words, Russkie propaganda”. Please give details and supporting evidence. Otherwise don’t comment. It is inane.
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:40am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        All of this is factually incorrect:
        
        A coup which gave real and actual power to far right nazis in the country, totally unproportional to their actual numbers.
        Zelensky is yet another US puppet. He will likely be disposed of soon in one way or another. I think his usefulness is coming to an end.
        
        Just because Russian state media make such claims doesn’t make them true, except for the credulous dupes.
        I’ll give serious consideration to your request that I not comment.
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:36am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Milkey, just because you say it is untrue doesn’t make it so, no matter how many stars you wish upon.
        I didn’t get any of my information from Russian state media. It’s all available in many western channels including the BBC. Here’s one piece from BBC Newsnight. A known bastion of “Russkie propaganda” obviously……
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY
        
        Or try “The Guardian” in the UK – another well known Putin fanboy outfit. Wonderful piece on Azov battalion summer camps for kids. They learn amazing things, wonderful people.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiBXmbkwiSw
        
        Here’s an article in the Toby Young blog The Daily Sceptic.
        
        “Was the Maidan Massacre a False Flag?”
        
        https://dailysceptic.org/2022/05/30/was-the-maidan-massacre-a-false-flag/
        
        Fill your boots milkey, should only take you about 5 minutes to debunk this “misinformation”.
        I reckon what will actually happen is you’ll scurry back under your bridge and seethe. If you’re going to debate best you bring something to debate with other than hubris.
        
        I don’t create the information, I read it and interpret it. If the resulting analysis doesn’t fit your personal world view tough shit. Take some concrete pills and htfu.
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:30pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Milkey – just in case you missed it, here’s another American comedian and political commentator explaining how the Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland, is caught explaining to Geoffrey Pyatt, who they are going to put into power once the coup has happened. Also she says “fuck the EU” when the other person shows concern about what the EU might think about it.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Z73NHmvVw
        
        Lucky for us, Youtube acted rapidly to remove the original recording and the 8 years of comments on it by the hundreds of thousands of people who watched it. Until they realised that there were multiple copies of it existing on many platforms and removing it was exposing their complicity in narrative control and censorship and reinstated it.
        
        Dore is obviously another American Putin propagandist. They better get McCarthy back, Reds under every bed in the US apparently. //
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:45pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I don’t see how Nuland’s comments provide any factual basis for your flights of fancy that I quoted.
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:59pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Milkey – “I don’t see how Nuland’s comments provide any factual basis for your flights of fancy that I quoted.”
        
        If anyone had any problem understanding the term “confirmation bias” – voila. Cheer Milkey, you actually achieved something meaningful today.
        
        You can’t see a problem with the US Sec of State telling the US ambassador to Ukraine, who she was going to replace the democratically elected leader of that country with, while simultaneously showing complete and utter contempt for one of her country’s main allies? That is astonishing refusal to face up to facts. 2+2 = 5 eh Milkey?! You’ve got this narrative and thought control shit totally mastered!! Do you work in Brenda’s comms team by any chance???
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:38pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        You are very confused. The long, long history of the US interfering in other countries does not provide a great basis for you being a cheerleader for Putin. That senior US diplomats opposed the 2014 Ukrainian regime doesn’t prove your claims about Nazis and puppets.
        The Russkies don’t get a free pass because Yanks have been baddies too. How about you list also all the benevolent Russian actions in Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Angola, Mozambique, Afghanistan, Georgia, Chechnya, etc, etc? Ever wondered why countries bordering Russia are so keen to be NATO members?
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:48pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Hawkins offended?
      You know what happens when someone is offended? Nothing – be offended as much as you like.
      Steve Hughes:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceS_jkKjIgo
      Someone may like to send this to Aaron Hawkins.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:46am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Things not looking good for sleepy Joe. Infuriated Border Patrol Agents Refuse to Meet with Biden in Uvalde. Well, bloody good job Joe. You know there are thousands entering the US each day, and it is not good for the Country you are the pseudo President of.
https://trendingpolitics.com/just-go-brandon-infuriated-border-patrol-agents-refuse-to-meet-with-biden-in-uvalde-wiley/?
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June 1, 2022 8:08am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  From that item, something I did not know:
  “It was an off duty Border Patrol agent using a borrowed shotgun that saved the remaining children during the horrific Uvalde massacre, not the cops who had been sitting around, acting cowardly and tazing frustrated parents.”
  Police will probably prosecute him!
  “Defund the Police” the rabid left say. May as well, they are doing SFA
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:21am
  - Batman
    
    Yes, Abbott’s Texas law enforcement agencies, notably the Texas Department of Public Safety, completely failed those kids and teachers.
    
    His relaxation of gun laws gave the murderer easy access, and his good guys with guns and hardened schools myths utterly failed.
    
    The heads of the department should be fired, as the accountable officers in leadership (at the TDPS), and a criminal negligence investigation launched.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:11am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Did you pull that from Bob O’Rorke’s campaign Bat?
      
      Interestingly Canada just banned all handgun purchases. Let’s see if their experience in a couple of years mirrors ours in seeing an increase in gun related crimes and shootings.
      
      I’m not a significant pro or anti on this issue so like to see this through an objective lens. To date all I can see is gun laws targeting the 0.00001% of cases have been largely ineffectual.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:22am
      - Batman
        
        How weird that all countries who acted after mass shootings continue to not have them. Yet the US has more and more.
        
        And no, that’s just my opinion.
        
        Availability and ease of purchase with no checks leads to dead children. now what are you going to support to solve that?
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:30am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Yes, Frank is particularly noted for his ‘objective lens’.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:33am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        You are conflating too separate issues.
        
        New Zealand has historically had low gun violence. The Christchurch massacre was an anomaly. The response that confiscated firearms from law abiding owners was an over reaction and did nothing to stop gangs holding illegal guns.
        
        But… the massive rate of gun violence in the USA is the result of the ready availability of firearms. I don’t think that is a controversial statement. And there is no solution that I can see.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:38am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      No. Individual people on the ground failed those kids.
      The armed guard who was missing for over 12 minutes why the piece of crap was firing outside the school.
      The teacher who deliberately left the security door open.
      The cops who took over twelve minutes to get from the police station to the school which is only a four minute drive at the speed limit.
      The cops who didn’t go in and instead waited for over an hour.
      
      Also, good guys with guns (border patrol agents) basically told the police chief to go f himself and went in and put an end to it.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:38am
      - Batman
        
        Always individuals thrown under the bus huh and never the causal factors? What a gross tactic to avoid the inevitable conversation.
        
        What happened to backing the blue?
        
        Maybe backing them means not giving any random person a high velocity long rifle?
        
        Yes, a few brave people ended it only after the systems and training which are designed to avoid any sort of gun control, failed and caused more murders.
        
        Maybe a school cop with a small handgun up against a murderer wearing body armour and carrying a high velocity rifle would win out… Maybe… But why even get to that point?
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:02am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        Sorry Batman, I’ll back the Police when they are in the right/in a difficult position but only an idiot puts a line in the sand and refuses to budge on ideological grounds.
        
        The US does have a major gun problem, no doubt, but the fact remains that this was a massive failure on the ground of procedures put in place to minimise those issues by individuals who were supposed to enact those procedures.
        
        Even if the US outlawed all guns right now these shootings will still happen. They simply have too many guns. This psycho would still have got a hold of the guns he needed and still would have murdered innocent children.
        
        That is why the procedures etc are so important and why the failure of those individuals to protect those children is so bad.
        
        I am broadly for registration and background checks by the way. It’s also worth noting that the gun lobby is VERY persuasive in US politics and the Democrats may talk the talk but are far less likely to actually enact real change at the risk of losing big donors.
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:01pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      All of those Police who stood around and did nothing should be looking for another job.
      Maybe in Dept of Woman’s Affairs??
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:49am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      In this case the ‘good guy’ did not have a gun, so he ‘borrowed’ a shotgun and put a stop to the shooting – all while the cops doing nothing.
      That is the type of guy you need in kids schools. One who can analyse a situation and act quickly.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:43am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        So they don’t need police permanently stationed at schools, or heavily guarded single points of entry? Just a roster of heavily armed vigilantes would do the trick?
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:38am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Mike, volunteer Veterans. They have been there, done that. Don’t need firearm training. Background checked of course, some have PTSD (Sad)
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:20pm
      - Ehlana
        
        I don’t get this idea of armed guards at schools. What do they do all day? Given 10 years between school attacks on this scale and the number of schools in the US, what is the cost of such a policy? Especially if the guard ends being out of action (or declines to put their life on the line) when the event actually occurs?
        
        Surely it would be a better idea to put that money and resource into policies that aim to prevent people wanting to shoot up the local school – like mental health support?
        
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        June 1, 2022 2:46pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I am hearing that the off duty Border Agent is a female. Anyone know?
        If so, good job, good job!
        
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        June 1, 2022 3:09pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  They are letting these people in because they think they will vote for old uncle Joe next election, meanwhile the polls are tanking
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:56am
  - Batman
    
    Well that is a fantastically stupid strategy if so, they cannot vote.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:03am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Just because a talking point makes no sense doesn’t make it less effective as a talking point.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:34am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Batty and Milky, tag team working well this morning. 😉
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:51am
      - hullkiwi
        
        CM, it is difficult to vote in the US if you are an illegal, as you can’t get a Social Security number. And without a Social Security number you can’t register to vote. In fact you can’t do much, but live under the radar.
        
        Either the above is the case, or you are saying the entire US Federal and State electoral systems are corrupt!
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:08am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Listen up, there is only one reason these illegals are being ushered through is their vote, they will be able to vote by the election , why does it make no sense as a talking point ffs
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:45am
    - James Stephenson
      
      Gee, I wonder why the Democrats are so resistant to Republican calls for voter ID.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:05am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They will be by the time the t we lection comes around, do keep up, Dems are ushering these illegals through
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:43am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Because Border Patrol are unable to check them, they bring in knives, guns and DRUGS!
    Voting? Just get their false name and give them a mail in ballot. Been done before – some Counties got more votes than those registered to vote.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:00am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      They will be legal voters by the election, ffs, they are talking about this daily on US media how they will be able to cast their votes
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:46am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Just because it is a talking point on your favourite disinformation channels does not make it true. If it were true, there would be many, many prosecutions of people who have illegally registered to vote. there aren’t, because in-person voter fraud is vanishingly rare.
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:41am
Tomtoddy

When I was a kid I loved going to the Christchurch museum as part of visiting CHCH. There were dioramas depicting Maori living in a cave, fishing tending a fire, drawing on rock walls etc.

They were by all accounts accurate. In fact the director said recently “it may be accurate at a point of time”. What he meant and what too many historians now claim is that “accuracy” changes. Facts can be altered. Truth is expendable. Reality is shaped by social and cultural mores of the moment.

The dioramas are going. Something less “offensive” will take their place. And we will all be poorer for having our history savaged by idiots.
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- Yabster
  
  yes they will be replaced with Maori inventing telephones, radio, the internal combustion engine, maybe even boiling water….
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:16am
  - Lance
    
    I want to see them sailing to Antarctica
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:31am
    - namron
      
      How about a pre-European Maori melodic song !!
      
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      June 1, 2022 11:23am
    - G152
      
      If anyone sailed to Antarctic back then that would be Polynesians
      
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      June 1, 2022 12:39pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Internal combustion engine was invented by my ancient namesake.
    Known as the ‘Otto four stroke cycle’
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:04am
  - skyblue
    
    Don’t Forget the wheel.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:04am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      That was invented by Barney Rubble
      
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      June 1, 2022 12:22pm
- krazykiwi
  
  “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” ― George Orwell, 1984
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:16am
- Ehlana
  
  I have to say Tom, I have not heard previously of living in caves and drawing on rock walls. I’m mopre familiar with whares, wood carving and weaving. Are there actually caves like that in NZ?
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:27am
  - kowtow
    
    ‘The conspicuous limestone caves and overhangs also gave welcome shelter on cold southern nights, a fact still appreciated by sheep and cattle.’
    
    https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/takiroa-rock-art-shelter
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:36am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Over 500 known rock art cave sites .
    https://teara.govt.nz/en/maori-rock-art-nga-toi-ana
    
    and just for the Canterbury district..
    Numerous cave/occupation sites noted within this document.
    https://www.doc.govt.nz/globalassets/documents/science-and-technical/sr89.pdf
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:11am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      A good talk here about an artist who used themes form Maori rock art in his work:
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/standing-room-only/audio/2018708189/problematic-controversial-racist-discussing-the-art-of-theo-schoon.
      I found this talk interesting as I inherited a Theo Schoon dish.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:00am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Lucky you
        
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        June 1, 2022 8:15pm
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Generally speaking, Maori lived on the coast of the South Island and that was where their homes were. When they went inland they used the shelter of caves as it wasn’t worth making permanent structures when they would only be used occasionally.
    
    At least that’s my understanding of Maori history.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:42am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Why wouldn’t any group of people use a pre existing cave over having to hack down trees and construct a shelter when one exists? I would assume they were used anywhere the existed.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:53am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      And what else used caves/ rockshelters during cold wet periods and when raising young hatchlings?
      
      Moa (Aves: Dinornithiformes) nesting material from rockshelters in the semi-arid interior of South Island, New Zealand
      
      https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03014220809510550
      
      Could be why the moa hunters were attracted to these sites.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:24am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yep, there were caves – and a very long waiting list to get one
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:06am
    - SoloView
      
      Did you know, in 1799 tribal leaders promised 58 new caves a year in Canterbury //
      
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      June 1, 2022 12:34pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Were Labour in charge?
      
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      June 1, 2022 7:36pm
- surfing
  
  The exhibit was widely “detested because they portray early Māori as Neanderthals who lived in caves and had very little technology”.
  
  Depicting maori as living in caves seems inaccurate. Score one to the opponents.
  
  When one googles “pre-european maori technology”…..
  “Technology was limited to tools made of naturally occurring materials such as pounamu (the South Island’s greenstone) and tūhua (obsidian); flax was used for weaving and other purposes.”
  
  I’m not sure I’d call this ‘technology’ …. score one to the supporters.
  
  I think both sides in this debate have valid points.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:30am
  - kowtow
    
    Wrong.
    
    “North Otago and South Canterbury have the lion’s share of New Zealand’s rock art sites. Half a millennium ago the valley of the Waitaki River was a well-trodden seasonal hunting and fishing route. Takiroa occupied a strategic position, offering advance warning of the approach of strangers or bad weather. The conspicuous limestone caves and overhangs also gave welcome shelter on cold southern nights, a fact still appreciated by sheep and cattle.”
    
    https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/takiroa-rock-art-shelter
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:37am
    - surfing
      
      The article says the caves were on a hunting route, and maori used them as shelter in bad weather.
      
      The real question is whether maori generally lived in caves, or in shelters that were part of an overall tribe/village.
      
      Answer that!
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:14am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Yes, there is a large rock carving on the road from Oamaru to Kurow
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:48am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    There is a ton of evidence Maori lived in caves, even crude holes in the ground. https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Pom01Lege-t1-body2-d10.html
    
    This is not derogatory. There is no intent to offend. It is a part of history just as my ancestors lived in unbelievably primitive and filthy conditions in Scotland. It is neither good nor bad. It just is.
    
    No one gains by rewriting history. A society “governed” by feelings and not facts is eventually doomed.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:48am
    - surfing
      
      The diorama is based in the Canterbury area…. your link is from the Bay of Plenty.
      My understanding is that maori lived in primitive huts that were themselves part of a village. If the majority of maori did shelter in huts, it is inaccurate to depict them as cave dwellers.
      
      You say you are concerned with accuracy, but a foreigner would incorrectly conclude that Maori were cave dwellers. They should depict the common way of life, not the exceptions.
      
      There are a few homeless people who sleep in the bushes in a nearby park. Would it be accurate to depict them in a diorama of the typical New Zealand way of life? Accurate, but misleading .
      
      So, I’m not convinced by your argument. Nor am I convinced by the Maori argument that they developed ‘technology’.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:06am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        The dioramas are depicting the moa-hunter period of occupation.
        
        Somewhere from 1300s to 1500s at the latest.
        
        There’s nothing to say that Maori didn’t build whare or reed huts at this time… but, then again, we don’t have physical evidence that they did.
        
        But we do have evidence that early Maori made use of cave shelters when they were stone-working and feasting on Moa.
        
        https://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-BuiMoaH-t1-body-d0-d2-d1-d1.html
        
        The extraordinary thing is that some folks want to hide the information that has been researched and written about for at least 150 years.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:45am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Perhaps the word “technology” is aimed at young people for whom “technology” is the only way they have heard of anything being made or produced.
    Many believe food comes from the supermarket and only robots make cars and furniture. And everyone knows that medicines come from chemicals.
    So tools hand made from pounamu or wood, or rocks have to be explained as Maori technology of the day.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:51am
    - tf78
      
      I think they have mistaken tools for technology.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:28am
    - surfing
      
      Crows (the bird) have been observed using sticks to forage for food.
      
      Does this mean that crows are a technological species?
      
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      June 1, 2022 12:11pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  We all lived in caves at some point, what the hell is wrong with that history, god this world is nuts
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:58am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yes, it is extraordinary. However the research remains.
  
  The cave depiction was widely praised in the 1990s (and by local kaumatua), based as it was on the excavations of caves in the inland Canterbury district.
  
  Somebody must have been working the rocks to produce the flakes and hammer stones that were found on the cave floors, as well as lit fires and left evidence of cooking birds.
  
  Someone must to have had the time to make charcoal drawings on the walls and roofs of caves in Canterbury and N. Otago.
  https://www.craigmore.co.nz/maori-wall-art
  
  There’s ample evidence also from the Redcliffs area and caves on Bank Peninsula that caves and overhanging cliffs were used as occupation sites by early Maori.
  
  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/ti-kouka-whenua/te-ana-o-hineraki/#:~:text=Te%20Ana%20o%20Hineraki%20(Moa,people%20to%20arrive%20in%20Aotearoa.
  
  I think it is the rather brutish look of the stone-working cave inhabitants that offends folks in the diorama…
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/300035413/complaints-about-mori-exhibit-not-addressed-for-four-years
  
  I’ve not seen such unfavourable comments about the quarry working diorama
  https://www.canterburymuseum.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/CroppedFocusedImageWzU0MCw1NDAsIngiLDEzNl0/Nga-Toanga-Diorama.jpg
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:04am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Obviously these people have never experienced Canterbury and Otago winter nights. I’d choose a cave with a fire at the entrance any day before a freezing whare. No comparison in insulation quality.
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:31am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I came across this account the other day, John Rutherford talking about a Maori whare in the 1820s:
      
      I judged the hut to be about eight feet wide, and twelve long. It had a fire in the centre; and no vent either for smoke or heat. The chiefs who were with us threw off their mats and lay down close together in a state of perfect nudity. I had not been many minutes in this oven, before I found the heat and smoke, above, below, and on every side, to be insufferable. Though the night was cold, Mr. Kendall and myself were compelled to quit our habitation. I crept out, and walked in the village, to see if I could meet with a shed to keep me from the damp air till the morning. I found one empty, into which I entered. I had not been long under my present cover before I observed a chief, who came with us from the last village, come out of the hut which I had left, perfectly naked. The moon shone very bright. I saw him run from hut to hut, till at last he found me under my shed, and urged me to return. I told him I could not bear the heat, and requested him to allow me to remain where I was.
      
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      June 1, 2022 11:49am
- alex Masterley
  
  I remember those diorama’s. They facinated me as a kid.
  Based on shelters at Taylors Mistake and other of the Banks Penninsula bays.
  Rock art is not uncommon in the area and also in the waitaki area.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:16am
- Bobba Fret
  
  We all used to live in caves back when woolly mammoth’s were around.
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:35am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    You must be very, very old then.
    
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    June 1, 2022 1:02pm
Nickc2

It did’nt take long for the word to come down from Robertson that it was time to start running defence for his inability to manage the economy.
This cartoon is another put-down of Luxon emanating from the Beehive and this is what Stuff gets paid for.
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June 1, 2022 8:12am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  The attack as on Luxon was utterly pathetic, but an own goal as far as I can see, he will become PM because of the cost of living crisis, and this bluu oh what’s continues to blame the world, not the quarter of a trillion he is spending over the next 2 years
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:00am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Should say blow hard above
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:50am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Robertson on TV 1 News last night stated that it was his role to hold the opposition to account when he was asked to account for all the attack ads Labour is currently running against Luxon.
  
  I thought his role was to safeguard our economy.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:31am
  - Nickc2
    
    his role was to safeguard our economy
    Yea, just like he paid for those ads out of his own back pocket eh?
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:42am
  - tf78
    
    I think he got that back to front – It’s the opposition’s job to hold the government to account.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:31am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    How does he possibly think that is anything worth while, they are failing on every topic, yet the vulgar prick wants yo hold the opposition to account, what a vent whimp
    
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    June 1, 2022 3:15pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  All Robbo is doing is continually showing his bitchy 15yr old school girl side. He’s not even funny, just plain bitchy.
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:24am
  - Nickc2
    
    Does it get any worse?
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:58am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    She is a scatter brain idiot
    
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    June 1, 2022 7:16pm
Tony Stuart

Did anyone see Maiki Sherman’s story on 1News last night, claiming that anti-Māori sentiment is rising. Apparently, if you express concerns about the Government’s move to co-governance, you are a racist.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/31/concern-over-recent-increase-in-anti-maori-sentiment/

Sherman included an interview with Kate Hannah, director of The Disinformation Project, a group which has gathered prominence in recent months, especially since the occupation of Parliament grounds earlier this year. So who or what is The Disinfomation Project?

It’s a group set up within the auspices of Te Pūnaha Matatini, an academic think tank with strong links to Auckland University. Te Pūnaha Matatini is known for its involvement with Dr Shaun Hendy, Dr Michael Plank and Dr Soiuxsie Wiles of Covid infamy. It receives significant government funding.

So what mandate does The Disinformation Project have to tell us what we should, or shouldn’t believe? None that I am aware of, yet TVNZ quotes Kate Hannah as though she has spoken from the Podium of Truth. It seems to me that we are headed down a very slippery slope, especially when many would argue that much of what 1News puts forward could itself be considered “disinformation”!
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- Yabster
  
  thats why I don’t watch that rubbish- surprised Dallow the meek Fallow has survived given his ethnicity- 3 news is nearly as bad though.
  
  Sherman calling others racist- bit rich.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:19am
  - Nickc2
    
    Get used to it Yabster, it’s not going to improve anytime soon. The Govt’s Maori Caucus won’t let it go away.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:37am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      The Māori caucus will do Ardern in
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:03am
      - Nickc2
        
        Bring it on!
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:11am
- krazykiwi
  
  There is no such thing as ‘disinformation’. Information just is. It just sits there, asking to be interpreted, and there will mostly be multiple interpretations. This is a cornerstone of enlightened, modern civilization. Accepting that disinformation is a problem, or worse, that it should be controlled is the beginning of totalitarianism.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:23am
  - H. Upmann
    
    Unfortunately we are well on the way to totalitarianism.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:26am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Not after next year
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:04am
  - Lee C
    
    There is this, though KK:
    “It’s also disturbing to see definitions of words redefined. ‘Disinformation’ being one of the latest. A recent example was the list of twelve people and groups published as the main source of ‘disinformation’ in New Zealand. Amazingly, in the same week, lists of twelve sources of ‘disinformation’ were also published in other countries.
    
    Fancy that — so many countries ‘coincidentally’ finding twelve such culprits.
    
    The N.Z. list was apparently compiled by several people who make up the ‘Department of Disinformation’. Before this, the only time it seemed such ‘departments’ had been in existence were in communist or fascist countries.”
    
    https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/a-matter-of-honour/
    
    I’m with you buddy. For me too, it’s a matter of Honour.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:35am
    - kowtow
      
      The very basics have been redefined .
      
      How could it ever be taken seriously that there’s a debate over “what is a woman”
      
      We’ve gone stark raving mad.
      
      Anything is now possible .
      
      The emperor really does have a nice set of new clothes .
      
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      June 1, 2022 8:41am
      - Spoff
        
        No contest:
        https://www.sott.net/image/s32/647847/full/lia_thomas_wins_.jpg
        Lia Thomas after winning the 500 yard freestyle in March. The runners-up posed together.
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:04am
    - krazykiwi
      
      Yes, that ‘coincidence’ is nothing of the sort. It is clearly orchestrated. But under whose direction?
      
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      June 1, 2022 8:50am
      - Lee C
        
        I’m confident they will label pointing out the ‘coincidence’ as ‘disinformation’…
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:03am
      - tf78
        
        WHO’s/UN’s/WEF take your pick, but I warn you they are all very unsavoury.
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:01am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      No coincidence that Our Dear PM’s Harvard speech was on disinformation.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:49am
      - tf78
        
        Did you see that some of her Harvard speech was plagiarized from the Bee Movie – I did not make that up.
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:02am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        tf78
        
        I read her speech…
        
        You’re repeating nonsense.
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:10pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    “Disinformation” is an Orwellian term that basically means, anything that doesn’t agree with the “official narrative” whatever the fuck that even means. Word salad has become rife in the covid era and getting worse.
    Ardern needs to call it the Ministry of Truth and the motto should be “We will be your single source of truth, remember, 2+2=5”
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:49am
    - hullkiwi
      
      CM, it is not only Covid that has spawned the anti-disunformation warriors. The anti-disinformation warriors have been required by the official (usually government) and unofficial (usually NGOs and self appointed lobbyists or “know it all academics”) channels, who need to educate the great unwashed public into “right think”.
      
      Yes, Covid has been the recent example, but other examples are the Maori co-governance issues (where those opposing it are called racist, yet the irony is it is everything that was Apartheid South Africa); or the current example of the social media “attacks” on the “actress” Amber Herd; or the French authorities justifying what happened on Saturday with a false narrative.
      
      To all of the above facts are irrelevant and the truth is something to be manipulated.
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:17am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        HK I totally agree with that, but I believe the covid circus is the catalyst for what is coming. Between the “green new deal”, the “woke” bollocks, the move to give undemocratic power to the likes of the WHO and WEF, covid has been used to see what can be imposed on populations without major rejection or protest. The answer has been “far too much”.
        The fact that people still wear masks stuns me. They do nothing to protect anyone. As for targeting immune compromised people and children for a 4th jab, that is criminal malfeasance.
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:04am
  - I remember when
    
    But the Disinfromation Expert has found an increase in racist comments in the last six weeks.
    Particularly, she said, around ideas of co-governence, He Puapua and the Maori Health Authority.
    In other words political debate on subjects that make mentioning Maori necessary.
    Nanaia Mahuta has been called an n word by what she called a nameless, keyboard warrior.
    Any guess as to which political parties the warrior is supporting, by inference.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:31am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  TV1 also had an academic apologist for the Medical schools racist selection practices of 40% Maori Pacifica irrespective of ability labelling as racists those calling out beneficiaries of the practices.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:30am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    How is the selection process working out at Auckland’s Medical School?
    
    Examining the predictors of academic outcomes for indigenous Māori, Pacific and rural students admitted into medicine via two equity pathways: a retrospective observational study at the University of Auckland, Aotearoa New Zealand
    
    https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/8/e017276
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:56am
- Yvette
  
  Tony Stuart
  Director of The Disinformation Project, Kate Hannah told 1News they have been monitoring a rise in anti-Māori sentiment for over a year, but have noticed a significant increase in the last six weeks.
  – May 30, yesterday
  https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/05/31/concern-over-recent-increase-in-anti-maori-sentiment/
  
  Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern confirms public consultation on Māori co-governance will happen in 2022 – 29/03/2022
  https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/03/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-confirms-public-consultation-on-m-ori-co-governance-will-happen-in-2022.html
  
  So more like 8 weeks
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:31am
- ClanMcleod
  
  There is a rise in “disinformation” groups around the world. They need renamed to what they actually are, perfect versions of Orwell’s MiniTrue, Ministry of Truth.
  Luckily the US canned theirs in embarrassment after the new appointment made an arse of herself on social media singing a modified version of Supercalafragilistic etc. Super cringeworthy more like.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLX2_9E79z0
  
  Crushed by observers.
  
  This version is much more accurate.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOetZAOOhF8
  
  We don’t need any departments to tell us what is the truth and what isn’t. That is pure Orwellian overkill.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:35am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Te Pūnaha Matatini is a dangerous organisation. Seriously dangerous. The fact they get funding from The Wellcome Group is enough to give me chills. Of course, Auckland Uni gets funding from the Gates Foundation, no surprises there.
  The Otago Infection Group at Otago University also get funding from the Gates Foundation and GAVI.
  Too many conflicts of interest I believe.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:37am
  - cmm
    
    They get funding from many government sources via many channels.
    
    For example they get funding from the Ministry of Transport.
    
    These are the same bunch of activists who tell us how NZ is an awful haven for slavery.
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:45am
  - kowtow
    
    What is Te Punaha Matahini .
    
    Those 3 words tell me nothing and I shouldn’t be forced to look it up. Goes against open , common sense communication .
    
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    June 1, 2022 8:56am
    - Batman
      
      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
      You know what a marae is, don’t you?
      
      I’m sure you also probably know what Te Puni Kokiri is because it’s been around a while.
      
      Learning words is good.
      
      https://www.tepunahamatatini.ac.nz/about-us/
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:02am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Bugger learning the words FFS, it’s personal choice, and should not be rammed down our throats
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:07am
      - Batman
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        You’re welcome to be a modern day know nothing if you want. Just don’t expect not to be ridiculed for being such.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:25am
      - graham
        
        I can honestly say, hand on heart Batman, that I have no idea what Te Puni Kokiri is.
        
        I’m sorry if you think I’m being a smartass, but I genuinely don’t know.
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:18am
      - Batman
        
        Hey that’s no problem.
        
        It’s the Ministry of Maori development, established in the late 80’s.
        
        https://www.tpk.govt.nz/en/mo-te-puni-kokiri/who-we-are
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:21am
      - kowtow
        
        You’re sure I know wot Te Puni Kokiri is . That’s very rude presuming to know .
        
        BTW we all know it’s the height of ignorance to talk foreign when others in company don’t understand , esp if it’s just to show how “virtuous” one is .
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:22am
      - Batman
        
        Yes maybe you aren’t even equipped with a basic knowledge of our government 😉
        
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        June 1, 2022 9:34am
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Chinese make up a substantial proportion of the NZ population. We should be brainwashed with Mandarin in similar volumes according to your logic.
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:06am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        Puni – camp, encampment
        
        kōkiri – (v) to attack, charge, thrust forward,
        
        kōkiri (n) spear
        
        hence Te Puni Kōkiri could mean – an attack camp
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:14am
      - Matt Long
        
        Good on you Maggie, I had a fair idea Batman had no idea what he was talking about as usual.
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:44am
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        And you are welcome to take a fucken hike
        
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        June 1, 2022 10:52am
      - MiddleclassTrash
        
        Even if you had a Maori to English dictionary, you couldn’t work out that Te Puni Kokiri is a development ministry. There are no directly equivalent words or terms for “development” or “ministry”, or in the same way, “smelt” or “democracy”, as they are foreign ideas & processes. The whole idea of using Maori words to name these departments is a bit of a nonsense really.
        
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        June 1, 2022 11:17am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I’ll have to assume that Maggy was unable to find the actual meaning of Te Puni Kokiri – ‘a group moving forward’, as there would be no way she would be pandering to the Kiwiblog racists.
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:07pm
      - graham
        
        mikenmildagain:
        
        I’ll have to assume that Maggy was unable to find the actual meaning of Te Puni Kokiri – ‘a group moving forward’ …
        
        Or, possibly Maggy used an online Maori dictionary.
        
        https://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?keywords=puni
        https://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?idiom=&phrase=&proverb=&loan=&histLoanWords=&keywords=Kokiri
        
        Just goes to show how confusing it is trying to understand phrases and words from a language that the vast majority of New Zealanders don’t speak.
        
        If only there was a language that most of us do understand – wouldn’t it make life easier? We could communicate properly, rather than using phrases that most people don’t understand, have to look up, get wrong, be corrected, then forget what it was that you were talking about so have to go back to the beginning …
        
        If only such a language existed and was in common use in this country.
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:28pm
      - Countrygirl
        
        A puni is also cotton fibre rolled up ready to spin in to yarn.
        
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        June 1, 2022 3:31pm
    - Yabster
      
      milkdud using the term racist – shock horror- you should all be ashamed and get in line with the socialist elites thinking…
      
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      June 1, 2022 2:59pm
      - G the giant from Dunedin
        
        Bwhahahagaga, the elites won’t like them, they are all pale stale and male, which agent, sexist and racist, but that’s fine, we can jolly go down with the sinking ship of NZ together
        
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        June 1, 2022 7:21pm
- Swifty
  
  Yep, I can tell you the number one cause of ‘anti-Maori sentiment’ in NZ at present – and that is the push by some to elevate ‘Maori wonderfulness’ above everything else and while ignoring the realities of pre-contact Maori life and the move to create separate classes of citizenship based on ethnicity, and again, without a shred of evidence that this will lead to improved life outcomes for anybody.
  
  Laying the blame for increasing anti-Maori sentiment at the feet of those who object to these recent moves is a cruel, cruel irony.
  
  And deliberately deceitful.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:46am
  - Paulus
    
    Anti Maori sentiment is the brainchild (sic) of the policies of Dr Ardern and swallowd by the Labour Caucus.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:38am
- Opie
  
  [deleted by Mod, racial animus and stereotyping]
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:47am
  - Opie
    
    Huh? You guys need to wake up if your shutting this down. We are in more trouble than we think.
    
    Which part caused this to be deleted?
    
    I said that the majority population are being treated like shit. This is correct as the diversion of resources and power to a minority group based on race cleary evidences. Truth.
    
    I said that non elected people in this group are giving privileged positions to their friends and family. Truth.
    
    I said that a person given this special power is married to her first cousin, not a good look for one of our highest ranking politicians and surely a laughing point on the world stage. Truth.
    
    Finally I said that anyone keen to live in a race based society with unelected governance can go on one island, anyone who wants a democracy where we all just get on can live on the other. Of course each will be fully funded by itself.
    
    Remember, this is what he puapua actually recommends, except they want Maori controlled areas within the overall country, no doubt so they can get more than their share of central funding.
    
    If you want to divide the country just do it properly.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:39am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  How do they think 3 waters snd He Puapua will be greeted at the ballot box?
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:01am
  - Paulus
    
    Maori like the Chinese can wait until in time they get whatever they want.
    It creeps like a cancer and rust all the time.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:39am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Well bugger them, change is coming. And it won’t be one sided
      
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      June 1, 2022 7:22pm
  - yobi
    
    Next years election will be deemed racist and only the special people will be allowed to vote.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:43am
  - Philview
    
    I think there will be be an extraordinary effort coming to retain this Government in power.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:45am
  - Nickc2
    
    What ballot box? I’m afraid that symbol of capitalism is no longer permitted in that mythical country once known as New Zealand. //
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:53am
- oldfella
  
  Tony, talking of racism, I hope everyone on KB takes the time to read this great article from Chris Trotter. It’s a brutal evaluation of the dangerous road down which Labour is leading the country.
  https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2022/05/31/must-read-nanaias-super-narrative/
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:40am
  - Jack5
    
    In this piece, Trotter’s interesting, too, on Chris Finlayson, who negotiated Ngai Tahu’s sweetheart settlement (with top-up) from the Crown.
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:35pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Kate Hannah – Hidden networks: feminist historiographies of the history of science in Aotearoa New Zealand. Star credentials for leading a ‘Disinformation Pogrom’ //
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:57am
Maggie Pie

RANDOM IMPERTINENT QUESTION

Does ZB’s devoted Ardernist, Jason Walls, get to turn left at the top of the Airstairs?

SHEESH!!
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June 1, 2022 8:17am
- pdm
  
  Yep noticed that as soon as he started reporting from the States.
  
  He will never be an adequate replacement for Barry Soper -Walls is just a boy trying to do a mans job and failing miserably.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:29am
- kowtow
  
  Listening to him in the run up to the Greadest Show On Earth one could tell these nobody reporters are emotionally totally overwhelmed by the very idea that they will actually finally get to enter the White House . A pinnacle in their self promoted ,pathetic careers.
  
  But back to the Oval Office ,a place that for the rest of the year , to them anyway , is the Apocalyptic , or for heretics ,the Revelational , Lair of the Beast .
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:29am
- Souvlaki
  
  I would guess from his cheerleading…certainly.
  Plenty of tissues in that department to clean brown stuff off his nose!
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:30am
Yabster

I see the Tax payers union are doing a old fashion roadie re stop 3 waters- you can get the dates here:

http://www.3watersroadshow.nz
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June 1, 2022 8:23am
- curry4me
  
  Oh yes, I saw the ad for the Tax Payers Union road trip on Face Book. I’ll go to the one in Christchurch. Thanks for posting. Saved me doing it.
  
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  June 1, 2022 12:00pm
Maggie Pie

My partner was wondering if Nanaia will follow Nadia Lim’s lead…. and appear in the centerfold of the Prospectus?

https://twitter.com/MahutaCorp/status/1531565756101828608
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June 1, 2022 8:26am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Dear God no……….and I’m not religious.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:52am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I don’t think I would like to play golf with your “partner”. He sounds like the sort of man who could put the knife in, and give it a subtle twist.
  But I’m sure he would be a great man to join for a drink or four.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:54am
Lee C

The Ukraine – our latest poster child for virtue signalling.

How much of this situation can be traced back the the destabilising influence of the Democrats’ ‘seditious’ strategy to fabricate a collusion between Trump and Russia.
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/russia-collusion-hoax-against-trump-was-seditious/video/5a150575b0ba70470e8413246f4faade
Those who endorsed this ‘sedition’ – do they have the blood of Ukraine on their hands?

Is this why there is so much ‘Who me?!?’ virtue signalling going on about the Ukraine?

Or is it really about High-calibre White-House Remora fish feeling the pinch on their Oil interests and manipulationg public opinion for their own ends?

Or final option, is is a handy war to destabilise Russian/Chinese interests and bolster US financial intersts in the region?

Are people dying?

Who care? Let’s just keep it going as long as we can eh?

That’ll ‘show Putin’ – won’t it?
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June 1, 2022 8:30am
- ClanMcleod
  
  As was stated by someone weeks ago, America and NATO will support Ukraine right down to the last Ukrainian.
  This is all about destablilising Russia in particular. The US and their NATO poodles don’t give a shit about the country or the people. Another pawn sacrifice in the geostrategic chess game. Taiwan next.
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:57am
  - MCōs
    
    So, what’s your position?
    Let Putin have his way?
    
    If nobody had supported Ukraine it would become a vassal state of Russia similar to Belarus, and all the rest, I would suggest and it would be on from there. There’s nothing more predictable.
    Taiwan next.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:18am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      My position is as I stated. What is happening was as entirely predictable as it is tragic. Young men killing each other, innocent civilians dying as collateral damage, societies destroyed. All because some people believe they have the right to impose their will on others. The US started doing this in Iran in 1953 and have repeated the exercise in dozens of countries in the following years. The outcome has always been the same. Devastation for the country concerned.
      
      As for your claim that “If nobody had supported Ukraine it would become a vassal state of Russia similar to Belarus” – I don’t think it would, but neither you or I can know that for sure.
      
      I believe that the Eastern, Russian speaking parts of Ukraine would have been assimilated, I doubt Russia would want to take all of Ukraine and I doubt if they could.
      One thing that would definitely be true is, whatever the outcome, it would have been over far quicker and with substantially less death and destruction without the western interventions.
      Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya – the list is massive. When if ever has a US intervention went well for the country concerned?
      I feel saddest for the majority of the population of Ukraine who elected Zelensky to make peace in with those in the East. He was hijacked by the far right in the country and prevented from carrying out his election promise.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:18am
- MCōs
  
  ‘Are people dying?
  Who care? Let’s just keep it going as long as we can eh?’
  Who is ‘we’?
  There’s two sides fighting in this conflict that started in 2014, although Mr Putin muddies the water by referring back to god knows when to justify his current invasion and the ensuing atrocities.
  Russia & Ukraine.
  BTW
  Michael Sussman was acquitted
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:10am
  - Lee C
    
    ‘We’ refers too anyone who has endorsed continuation of hostilities over attempting any strategy to broker a peaceful solution.
    
    This Sussman: https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/sussmanns-defense-is-laughable-or-hes-a-terrible-lawyer/
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:18am
    - hullkiwi
      
      So you are referring to anyone supporting Putin and his cronies then?
      
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      June 1, 2022 9:34am
      - Lee C
        
        I have no partisan interest in killing people, so yes.
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:24pm
ecco

Todays a day you’ll want to keep away from $tuffed and the Ferald. Ardern’s taxpayer funded propaganda machine is out in full force banging on about her meeting with sleepy Joe. The only reason he would have wanted to catch up with her is because they’ve got an infant formula crisis in the US and we might be able to help them out.

Also the evolving China situation is of more concern to the US than Ardern obviously. Hopefully Biden asked her what our foreign minister is doing about it.

Or was it all just a photo shoot for Ardern’s resume? The latter I’d say.
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June 1, 2022 8:35am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Do we make infant formula? I know China but our milk powder and make their own infant formula, do we make large amounts of this product? Not sure if we could supply them at present, but she is so far out of her comfort zone, she would sign a deal without even knowing
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:13am
  - Batman
    
    There are Fonterra people on the tour, for obvious reasons given its importance to the economy.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:23am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      That is not what I said, I don’t think we make large scale infant formula, is Fonterra there? I haven’t heard so, silver fern farms yes, but haven’t heard that Fonterra is there , and she only took a small team, so how about you give some proof they are there, and some info about baby formula
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:56am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        From Newshub:
        The business delegation, which includes the likes of Silver Fern Farms, Zespri, Tourism NZ, Fonterra, Straker and New Zealand Merino, have been getting their feet in doors they’d never be able to open on their own
        
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        June 1, 2022 5:28pm
- graham
  
  Why restrict yourself to today only?
  
  I very rarely visit the Herald, although I don’t find the front page too bad. Stuff I tend to stay right away from, unless somebody on Kiwiblog points to something that may be of interest – I don’t particularly enjoy them trying to push their beliefs on me, so I avoid the site as much as I can.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:28am
- Paulus
  
  Heard recently that Joe asked his assitant where was New Zealand so they got out the map.
  Joe rightly as he said in effect that it is a South Pacific Islands.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:42am
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Bwhahahaha, sleepy Joe aye
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:57am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

From my FB: Ladies Can’t Keep Their Hands Off Of This Odd Looking Plant.
https://dailypol.com/ladies-cant-keep-their-hands-off-of-this-odd-looking-plant/
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June 1, 2022 8:36am
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Democrats in panic mode? The Feds are officially investigating Elon Musk. No more dollars for the from Musk as he switched his support to Republicans. Dems don’t want him to buy Twitter and they don’t want him to enable free speech oh Twitter.
Good luck tangling with the richest man in the World.
https://thepatriotnation.net/breaking-the-feds-are-officially-investigating-elon-musk/
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June 1, 2022 8:49am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hope he kicks their hod damned asses
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:14am
- Batman
  
  You want us to take a story from ‘Patriot Nation’ seriously?
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:17am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It is on many other American sites Batman.
    Patriot Nation sometimes likes some light hearted humour, but this is not humour. The Dems are shit scared of free speech – they want to control the ‘truth!’
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:47am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Add to that. Some just do not like humour, mainly because they are born without it, and it can not be downloaded and installed.
      Where would Kiwiblog be without humour?
      Well Kiwiblog would be without me and just be a non humourous group of non humourous deadbeats.
      
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      June 1, 2022 3:15pm
Yvette

Guardian headlines –
• ’A hard no’ / Maori party rules out coalition with National and Act after next election
• New Zealand’s next kingmakers / Who are the Maori party?

Surely if you state your revulsion at a National coalition, you then remain independent or side with Labour, so you cease to be a kingmaker, but become just another adherent of Labour, like the Greens, to be voted down.
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June 1, 2022 8:51am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  What is the point of the Māori party if they only go with Lab, why are they not part of government now
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:16am
  - kowtow
    
    Steampunk / Rodeo fashion promotions?
    
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    June 1, 2022 1:07pm
  - Hebe123
    
    Same as the greens.
    
    What is the point?
    
    I don’t know.
    
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    June 1, 2022 3:51pm
- I remember when
  
  We used to get complaints when only 48%+ elected the government under first past the post.
  It’s much better when 2% might make the decision under MMP.
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:19am
  - chukar
    
    IRW,
    No please please no.
    MMP has destroyed real NZ democracy!
    
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    June 1, 2022 2:22pm
Maggie Pie

Should we be worried……

Late night txter to ZB says ‘BP Silverdale’ out of Diesel…. and ‘Caltex Taupo’ out of 91.

What’s the latest news from Marsden Point?
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June 1, 2022 8:52am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Hmm, BP Anderson bay was roped of last week for a day, I guess they were out too
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:17am
- MCōs
  
  Only if you’re passing through Taupo and you happen to run out of 91 right outside the Caltex, not one of the ten other petrol stations.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:28am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Could be a shortage of tanker drivers so don’t read too much into it.
    From Cindy’s defense team.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:36am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Drivers may all have the pox
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:59am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Tractor units (trucks for those who do not know that a semi trailer is towed with a tractor) all in for a ‘deep clean’ That means gloves and all.
        
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        June 1, 2022 3:18pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Likewise with diesel from BP Silverdale, and besides you’d have to be desperate to by there, given the per litre price of the fuel versus the Pak N Save just down the road or the Gull Millwater is only 3km away.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:40am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Spose you’d be one of the first to take the ‘EV Rebate’ wouldn’t ya Cossie?
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:40am
    - MCōs
      
      Is that meant to be some sort of insult?
      
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      June 1, 2022 1:38pm
      - MCōs
        
        No reply, huh?
        
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        June 1, 2022 5:07pm
- Nickc2
  
  Are we into fuel rationing already? That didn’t take long eh?
  Never mind, Cindy’s on her way back and will sort things out. //
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:32am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    How many times has Air Force One been from one side of the States to the other and back, before breaking down? How much fuel is the NZ Taxpayer paying?
    Btw, is the plane fixed? or should it just be taken to the plane graveyard?
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:50am
    - Nickc2
      
      Just fly it to Tucson Arizona (aircraft boneyard), park, and walk away eh.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:57am
    - fightingtemeraire
      
      Plane is 29 years old. Should be scrapped or sold to a 3rd grade operator in Africa or Central America.
      
      When Air NZ goes to Airbus to buy new aircraft they should add two or three to the order for RNZAF and get some decent stuff
      
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      June 1, 2022 11:13am
      - Nickc2
        
        I believe it’s been hawked around 3rd-grade operators and they don’t want a bar of it. They say they can’t afford the repairs or spares and only Pilots and Flight Engineers of the Wright Brothers era are cleared to fly the damned things. //
        
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        June 1, 2022 12:06pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Could have had left over planes from Afghanistan if the could be converted to passenger craft.
        Some of that stuff the prick Biden left there was next to new!
        
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        June 1, 2022 3:27pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Plenty of 757s of that vintage are still flying. Newest are only 20 years old. The old 727s were kept for more than 20 years in RNZAF service. The MoD is apparently looking at replacement options for the 757s now, although the obvious priority has been the Hercules replacement.
        
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        June 1, 2022 5:25pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    What’s the vet she doesn’t front next week cause tired, and the threat of the Māori caucus
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:00am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Second dose of Covid – to prove we are all wrong.
      Fuck, we may get Covid foreva//
      
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      June 1, 2022 3:28pm
cmm

When Cindy took over as party leader, the biggest health scandal was a brown water stain in Middlemore hospital that Labour said was a leaking sewer pipe (which it wasn’t).

Now we have huge problems in hospitals. Here’s a person with typhoid having to sleep in their car.

Last week I had to go to the Christchurch ED for a few tests and was there from 4pm until midnight. I asked two nurses how they felt about their new ED building. Both prefered the new building but said things were better in the old building because they don’t have enough funding for the staff they need to operate effectively. As a result they cannot use the increased capabilities of the new ED properly.

So it’s really bullshit blaming the lack of staff on the pandemic, or even on MIQ. If there was no pandemic and no MIQ the staff would still not be employed.

This lack of resourcing goes through the whole system: blood tests which should have taken an hour to 90 minutes to process took over 3 hours.

I bet all hospital staff across NZ wish they could wind back the clock to 9 years of neglect and a water stain being their biggest problem.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/patient-with-typhoid-fever-slept-in-car-due-to-lack-of-beds-at-middlemore-hospital/U62E6MNWFM34ABUE2XNRVWRGJA/
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June 1, 2022 8:56am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Do you realise the stupid bint still stands in parliament saying when she came to power sewerage was leaking down walls , just more lies snd bullshit, the pipe was a broken toilet pipe that was behind a wall, it was fixed when found, what the hell does that have to do with sewerage running down walks, god she has to go this useless fool
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:20am
  - cmm
    
    Yup and nobody challenged her.
    
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    June 1, 2022 10:36am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      Why should they, they lose when they explain she is lying, and they are not allowed to utter anything in reply to answers even pathetic ones
      
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      June 1, 2022 11:02am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I think to be fair, low grade concrete and steel reinforcing rusting may have been some of that stain. Also, rust expands, rust can move bridges and skyscrapers
    
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    June 1, 2022 3:31pm
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      But it was only an out of place pipe that was behind the wall, a bit of maintenance and it was fixed, it was because it was behind the wall that it was not found
      
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      June 1, 2022 7:50pm
- Hebe123
  
  My 80+ aged parents got up before the crack of dawn the other week to drive 45 mins to their local hospital for my dad to have surgery requiring two night stay. Had the RAT test then Sat and waited for 5 1/2 hours in a cold room having not eaten since 8pm the previous day, at which time his surgery was cancelled. The surgeon had run out of time in the half day he had on site.
  
  Not really an acceptable way to treat anyone let alone our oldest. Dad, always a stoic kind of guy (ex cop) was close to tears.
  
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  June 1, 2022 3:57pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Well if you listened to Reti question little today, it’s all Nats fault, ops being cancelled cause of flu (not COVID) has filled the jolly hospital up, and so there was his arrogant attitude, also he quizzed him about a patient in Auckland with typhoid being told to sleep in their car till they could help, sounds like the hospital gave him a car, utterly pathetic. Little refused to answer, but it was Nats fault
    
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    June 1, 2022 7:55pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

May 31st in the US, Clint Eastwood’s Birthday.
He is 92!
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June 1, 2022 8:57am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I’ve been to his pub in Carmel, The Hog’s Breath Inn. Bastard didn’t make my day, he wasn’t serving beer…….
  
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  June 1, 2022 8:59am
  - kowtow
    
    Play Misty for me .
    
    Good film. Set in carmel . Clint a DJ.
    
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    June 1, 2022 1:09pm
ClanMcleod

Prescient article in The Spectator. Heads up, you have to register to be able to read the whole article but free to register and read 3 articles a month.

Jacinda Ardern is New Zealand’s Gorbachev.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jacinda-ardern-is-new-zealand-s-gorbachev

Indeed, a sellout and a traitor. She doesn’t work for us. Never has.
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June 1, 2022 9:00am
- Diogenes
  
  You don’t need to register to read articles in The Spectator. If you have a PC, type Ctrl-U and a text version of the article pops up. Yes, it shows all the html coding on the page too, but if you scroll down you will find the actual article text in full.
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:11am
  - oldfella
    
    diogenes: have you checked out getpocket.com? Good for reading the ferald as well. (Got that tip from Cam over at BFD.)
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:51am
Observer of Life

This through from Employsure yesterday…
“ The COVID-19 Protection Framework rules apply to all businesses, regardless of whether they choose to use My Vaccine Pass. If they wish, most businesses have the option of limiting access to their premises to people with a My Vaccine Pass (as a condition of entry), but this is no longer a requirement under the rules.”. So people, there is a NEW downloadable version of the Covid Passport out which, as a business, you can insist on as an entry requirement to your premises.
I know what I’ll be doing if asked for it… 👋🏻
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June 1, 2022 9:08am
- ClanMcleod
  
  I am not presenting “papers” to anyone. I’ll go to the next outlet and give them my dollars.
  This is part of conditioning people to accepting digital IDs.
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:21am
- Harry Knuts
  
  beyond me why Chippy did this new vaccine pass when it’s pretty much dead in the water. Pointless, more wasted money and once again creating a separatist society. I won’t be partaking… ever again.
  
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  June 1, 2022 2:56pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    He is absent from parliament, I wonder if he is for the chop
    
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    June 1, 2022 7:56pm
Batman

After 9am and absolutely no mention of the Sussman verdict aside from Mcos briefly mentioning it?

I thought there were a bunch a big Durham trials fans here??

Weird that nobody wants to talk about it!
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June 1, 2022 9:19am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Let me guess the corrupt bastard has been allowed to walk? I note on the jury there are 3 suspect jurors, 1 with links to Clinton, and two are actually related to Sussman, rotten corrupt bastards
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:23am
  - Batman
    
    Of course that is the excuse 🤣 must be the corrupt jurors and not the massive prosecutorial overreach?
    
    I note that Fox spent time on the weekend prepping that very excuse that the jury were Clinton and AOC donors hahaha.
    
    Maybe Durham’s boys should have done a better job of jury selection?? Lol
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:27am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      Honestly, the case was in DC. They never had a chance.
      3 Clinton donors, 1 AOC donor and 1 juror with a daughter in the same sports team as Sussman’s daughter. Ironically, that is a jury of his peers (Clinton supporters).
      
      The guy handed the (fake) info to the FBI and stated that he wasn’t acting on behalf of a client, that he was just a concerned private citizen. That’s obvious BS. Also, he charged the Clinton campaign for the flash drives he handed over so he’s either lying to the FBI or committed fraud.
      
      Yes it’s pedantic but when dealing with fraud you often have to go after the little things.
      
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      June 1, 2022 10:03am
    - G the giant from Dunedin
      
      What does that have to do with the fact that Clinton has a subject on the jury and sussman has two, if you think the Ukraine lie before that election is going away you’re nuts
      
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      June 1, 2022 11:04am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Still nothing on the Depp v Heard verdict either.
  
  Will post the moment it’s in.
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:30am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Please don’t. Any verdict will be full of Heard’s shit diversions to Elon Musk. The woman is funny
    
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    June 1, 2022 3:40pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Dear Bat – no one truly cares. What would the conviction of a minor player mean anyway. The main talking point is the stench steaming from Billary and thankfully meaning no raising from the crypt in 2024 to take over from the old coot and Harris.
  
  That said – here’s one for you Bat. Your mate Ron keeping shitting political Rainbows. Geez I hope Trumpy doesn’t stand he’d be such a great President in 2024.
  
  https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-darling-rebekah-jones-florida-covid-data
  
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  June 1, 2022 9:30am
  - Batman
    
    Oh Frank, that’s cute. A lot of buzzwords and a fictional prediction.
    
    You and others certainly seemed to care A LOT when the indictment was announced and all the way through Durham’s carefully staged announcements.
    
    It is genuinely hilarious to read your comment now.
    
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    June 1, 2022 9:55am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Cmon Bat – no one gives too shits given the Russia/Trump narrative has been proven to be a hoax. I am however looking forward to the mid terms
      
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      June 1, 2022 12:57pm
Countrygirl

I am bemused by Jacinda’s efforts to promote Cttp to Biden. Maybe my memory is faulty but weren’t Labour the ones who were so against it in the first place. Weren’t they the ones who organised big rallies to fight the possibility of trade with USA.
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June 1, 2022 9:20am
- Ehlana
  
  I believe they were against it until a couple more letters were added on the front, then they were for it.
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:01am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Labour pretended to be opposed to it to get the huge support of the many people who opposed it. They reneged on it a matter of days out from the election. Many people, including MP Marja Lubeck (who I was in contact with at the time) had no idea that they switched dramatically in the week before the election.
  Everything about this Ardern led Labour party is fraudulent.
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:30am
  - Nickc2
    
    They’re the biggest hypocrites this country’s seen as a Govt.
    I noticed Cindy didn’t mention ANZUS whilst sucking up to Bozzy Boden.
    Remember when we used to be part of that treaty? Then, along came that arrogant fool David Lange and the rest is history. AFIK, we still expect the US to come to our aid when the Chinese establish themselves in our part of the world FFS.
    I read today that Mahuta was making phone calls to our allies. To the best of my knowledge, we only have one Allie, that being Australia.
    
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    June 1, 2022 11:30am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      After 2023, Elbow won’t give a fuck about the National NZ Govt. He is maybe using Ardern as a tool. It is all coming to a train wreck for OZ.
      Even my sniveling socialist Brother in Oz admits it.
      
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      June 1, 2022 4:04pm
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Yep, and she hated Trump canning the US involvement, why then has old uncle Joe not done the decent thing, or was Trump right
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:06am
kiwikidsnz

In full: Former BoE Governor warns of a “very unpleasant period” ahead – YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Zb_AvxT8g

Former Bank of England Governor Mervyn King blames central banks for fuelling the cost of living crisis by printing too much money during the pandemic.

30 minutes of lucid, eloquent plain English.
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June 1, 2022 9:32am
- ClanMcleod
  
  kknz – Yes indeed. There was an excellent article on the same subject in The Daily Skeptic today.
  
  “Unfortunately for all of us, from early 2020 on far too much power and influence were allocated to one type of ‘expert’. However well-intentioned their input might or might not have been, their expertise was very limited. Most lacked either the general knowledge or three-dimensional minds to understand that whatever problem they were trying to solve, their solutions might make it far worse because of consequences they did not understand. Nor did they seem inclined to consider anyone else’s views.”
  
  All entirely predicable, except to those in positions of power which is a concern.
  
  https://dailysceptic.org/2022/05/31/runaway-inflation-was-the-entirely-predictable-consequence-of-lockdown/
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:33am
- James Stephenson
  
  Yet the Labour Party’s pet economist, Shamubeel Eaqub said that sort of thinking was “Economically Illiterate”.
  
  Who should be trust?
  
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  June 1, 2022 10:35am
NoCash

https://www.fridayeveryday.com/china-is-most-democratic-nation-says-new-study/

Clearly the Chinese people surveyed are ignorant and brainwashed.
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June 1, 2022 10:17am
- NoCash
  
  After reading the article in full… I’m not so sure… perhaps we living in the West are the ignorant ones…
  
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  June 1, 2022 12:43pm
Maggie Pie

I was just thinking to myself…
what sort of a loser would actually chose to go out with a bus driver?
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June 1, 2022 10:27am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  Robbo
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:07am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Free travel – oh wait…..
  
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  June 1, 2022 4:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

FFS..

Now the MSM is trying to blame Christopher Luxon for the anti-Te Reo comments swirling about.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/06/national-leader-christopher-luxon-condemns-racism-but-skirts-around-answering-whether-anti-te-reo-comments-are-racist.html
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June 1, 2022 10:47am
- G the giant from Dunedin
  
  It’s all going to end up giving Luxon more support, remember what happened when mud was thrown at a certain Nat leader? I think people are watching this Māori witch hunt very closely
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:08am
- Ehlana
  
  Saw that. Not sure how he is supposed to judge people he has never met, on the strength of comments he probably hasn’t personally read.
  
  The question is also loaded, of course, since racist could mean someone who thinks other races are inherently inferior to their own, or it could be the woke-speak meaning of disagreeing with the ideas or actions of someone of a different race. A clip of Mr Luxon agreeing that “they” were racist would undoubtedly be misused.
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:14am
Tiberius

Where is the health minister (or reporters asking questions of him) about patients being treated in Middlemore carpark overnight? Or electives cancelled at Auckland and Christchurch due to lack of beds and nurses?
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June 1, 2022 10:53am
I remember when

Thought I would check for next week’s grocery shop.
Went for a drive around the city, to see if any new international supermarket chains have built a new store and opened up over night.
Nothing to report – so expect prices to stay much the same.
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June 1, 2022 10:59am
- kevn
  
  @I Rem… robberson talking of Aldi coming.
  Aldi will be reading the political tea leaves thinking hard. Big commitment.
  Do they welcome government interventions?
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:54am
  - Paulus
    
    New Zealand too small for a companyl ike ALDI.
    Grant mumbling through his toast.
    
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    June 1, 2022 2:09pm
  - G the giant from Dunedin
    
    Robertson desperate for the slightest thing, I bet these international companies are regularly looking globally looking at markets, this blow hard can go backing your being an idiot snd hold the opposition to account
    
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    June 1, 2022 3:29pm
I remember when

Tesla appear to have a serious supply issue with its charging port electric control unit.
Based on reports, it seems the issue started mid-April and Tesla still delivered the vehicles to local service centres to wait for the part.
In some cases vehicles have been sitting at a service centre for more than a month.
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June 1, 2022 11:04am
Maggie Pie

A bezzie retweets 😀

Wasn’t it Goof who referred to Mt Roskill’s…. ‘wonderful-cultural-diversity’

https://twitter.com/Ciofilicious1/status/1531724270707015680
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June 1, 2022 11:16am
- mikenmildagain
  
  You must be glad to be in Jenny Salesa’s electorate instead.
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:55am
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykLNKtxl4a4

Media made him a hero, now it cancels him.

The NYT has said Zelensky can’t win. So much for Ukraine will prevail, and must be free no matter how long it takes. Putin was supposed to be vulnerable. The MSM was on Ukraine’s side. Zelensky was built up as a super-hero. Now, the MSM is talking about limits to support for Ukraine. Russia is winning in Ukraine. Long range weapons won’t be sent. Public support for Ukraine is slipping.
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June 1, 2022 11:22am
- kowtow
  
  NYT notoriously pro Soviet going all the way back to Walter Duranty.
  
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  June 1, 2022 12:18pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Nothing to do with being pro anything, simple, indisputable facts.
    
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    June 1, 2022 7:55pm
curry4me

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ACBpubTSEN8/
Is America Headed for a Civil War?

Is America headed for civil war? More and more pundits are saying yes! We’re going to look at some of the latest headlines, we’re going to see what they get right, but we’re also going to see what so many miss and what it means for the future of our nation. [10:10]
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June 1, 2022 11:23am
103PapPap

Anyone notice that of all the reporting between Jaccinda and sleepy Joe, the word ‘Aotearoa’ was never used once. Just ‘New Zealand’, our real name!
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June 1, 2022 11:35am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Too much for Joe to understand. I think he asked where NEW ZEALAN was ffs.
  Imagine Jaspinda saying ‘Aotearoa’ and then have to give the poor sick man, a barrage of word soup waffle? It is not funny. Sorry President Joe Biden, but that would be fucking annoying for you.
  
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  June 1, 2022 4:22pm
Alan Wilkinson

A weird system in the US has Democrats voting in Republican primaries to stop Trump candidates before the proper election.
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June 1, 2022 11:39am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Some states have ‘open’ primaries. Possibly an advantage in selecting candidates who are more likely to appeal to a wider spectrum of voters than just their party’s fanatics.
  
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  June 1, 2022 11:51am
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    … or just to suppress alternative viewpoints.
    
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    June 1, 2022 12:05pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Obviously tactical voting can also be employed to the opposite effect – ensuring the least likely to win candidate goes forward into the final election.
      
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      June 1, 2022 12:12pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        If that were the case, one would expect Democratic voters to support the Trumpiest candidates in the primaries.
        
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        June 1, 2022 1:17pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        One might, most wouldn’t.
        
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        June 1, 2022 2:58pm
- curry4me
  
  Yes, indeed. It hasn’t worked that well though. Most of the Ultra Maga candidates he backed won.
  
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  June 1, 2022 12:24pm
- Ehlana
  
  The same system presumably allows Republicans to vote in Democrat primaries to stop Democrat candidates before the proper election.
  
  I think you’ll find open primaries predate Mr Trump.
  
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  June 1, 2022 12:40pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    Of course, that isn’t the point.
    
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    June 1, 2022 2:59pm
mikenmildagain

I’m sure I read on Kiwiblog that this was a ‘smoking gun’ and this guy was going to jail:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-sussmann-not-guilty-special-prosecutor-john-durham
Disappointed.
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June 1, 2022 12:02pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Takes you back to the 10,000 times you crowed about Trump going to jail Mikey doesn’t it.
  
  Sad.
  
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  June 1, 2022 12:53pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Which I didn’t. He should of course have faced consequences for his lifetime of business failures, fraud and sexual assault but I don’t expect he ever will.
    
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    June 1, 2022 5:05pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  As above, the jurors included 3 people who donated to Clinton, 1 who donated to AOC and 1 who’s daughter who was on the same sports team as Sussman’s daughter. And these were the most acceptable of the juror pool. Imagine what the blocked jurors would have been like? The defense probably used up all their blocks on anyone that wasn’t fiercely pro-Clinton (DC’s 56% Democrat vs 28% Republican).
  
  DC is a Democrat swamp. Republicans were never going to get justice there.
  
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  June 1, 2022 1:40pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    And the tenuous connections of these jurors allowed them to manufacture a unanimous verdict in only one day? If your contention had any validity, no doubt we would see a successful appeal and a retrial.
    Counterpoint – a weak case failed to convince anyone.
    
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    June 1, 2022 5:08pm
Maggie Pie

One of the girls from tennis retweets…

What is it with Scout Masters and Music Teachers? 🙁

https://twitter.com/NZStuff/status/1531794815322533888
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June 1, 2022 12:37pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Toxic masculinity stopped the shooter in Texas!
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June 1, 2022 1:04pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Or enabled his easy access to lethal weaponry?
  
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  June 1, 2022 1:18pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I did hear the Border Agent off duty was female – and borrowed a shotgun – and stopped the whole thing! Bang, it was stopped.
    ‘enabled his easy access to lethal weaponry’ my left tit. Nobody gives up their firearm unless necessary.
    Meanwhile the Cops waiting for a plan while kids are getting dead.
    One cries help, bang, another 10 year old dead.
    Mike, you are a dick. Sad but your comments are repugnant
    
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    June 1, 2022 4:31pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Sad that your only response to gun violence in the US is to encourage the very thing that makes it so much worse there than any other developed country – easy access to powerful firearms.
      
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      June 1, 2022 5:03pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…..

‘When Joey met Cindy’

https://twitter.com/Kermys_Returned/status/1531767638019686400

O.M.G. the comments 😀
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June 1, 2022 1:12pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  I do hope that’s Labour’s campaign photo. Or National’s.
  
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  June 1, 2022 3:06pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yikes!
  
  Is that appropriate touching?
  
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  June 1, 2022 3:09pm
  - Alan Wilkinson
    
    With those two, heavens knows.
    
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    June 1, 2022 4:13pm
- kevn
  
  @Maggie…sleepy is just checking her teeth out.
  
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  June 1, 2022 5:59pm
slijmbal

I see Labour are still running the “Groceries are so expensive because of rapacious supermarkets” campaign. They’re busy doing things to look busy but the likelihood they will make any measurable difference is nil. Clayton’s actions.

Not saying that the Labour Government permitted Duopoly don’t make excess profits by international standards but these would add up to a couple of dollars a week per person in NZ. Approximately 2%, which was already baked in prior to recent inflation.

Recent inflation that is predominantly caused by the current government’s lax financial policies.
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June 1, 2022 1:49pm
kevn

@Maggie… I noticed arden spruced up a bit for ol’ sleepy. Never seen her in higher heels before plus some overt body language going on.
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June 1, 2022 1:50pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

The Silent Brainwash (brianwilsonspeaks.blogsot.com)
This is long, but the same applies here in Aaah tea arower.
The Silent Brainwash

– Brainwashing is best accomplished when you have no idea that it is being done but simply occurs as part of the fabric of your life. While you may “feel” that something is wrong, you are nonetheless being programmed. Simply think about TV Commercials and shows….

Facts: US population 334 million consisting of 57.8% White, 18.7% Latino, 12.1% Black and 11.4% Asian or other.

– Then break that down to about 10% of all existing marriages that are interracial including those of all races, and only 5.6% of the population that identifies as LGBT. You would expect the same ratios in TV commercials if they represented America —— but here’s what you see instead (taken from a log of TV commercials over a four month period) which is quite different.

TV: White men (as the majority of Americans) have all but disappeared. When they are in commercials they are either old, ugly and sick or they are the partner of a Black woman and have no speaking part. In three of the commercials the White men are doing laundry and always paired with a little girl to whom they are delivering the clean clothes. In other words, less than 10% of the population is driving 90% of the narrative.

Zero commercials of White fathers and sons. None! So while 75% of White children live with both their parents, including their fathers, we choose instead not to model that in favor of the 62% of Black children that do not live in a two parent household? This is our new normal in their eyes? As acceptable? Is this the healthy “normal” image we want to model to our population?

Equally disturbing: Young White boys and Teens have also disappeared, unless they were flagrantly new age gay, as though that represents the “majority” instead of the pitifully small minority. What distorted perception of reality does that serve? The study found a majority of the children were White girls with a Black “brother” even though this represents the smallest percentage of any reality discussed thus far! The MAJORITY of TV commercial couples consist of a White woman with a Black man; when in reality, these make up about 6% of the 30% of Blacks that are married or about 2% of our population. Are you starting to see how ridiculous, yet pervasive this extraordinary brainwashing is? Exactly what are they trying to program into us with this relentless deluge of non-reality?

– Surprisingly, in the month of December, there was an uptick (but not a majority) in good-looking White male models, but research determined that in each and every case it was a cologne commercial and every one of those commercials were made in Europe where they still use white men in their commercials. On the other hand, here they prefer to portray young White males as so mind-numbingly stupid as being incapable of delivering their lines and couldn’t even say “Liberty Mutual,” the insurance company featured in the commercial.

– Over a period of four months, it concluded that while the African American population in America is only 12% they were in 94.3% of the commercials. Black males are only 5% of our population —— yet were in 89.7% of the ads. Then you have to ask, where are the Asians and Latinos that make up nearly THREE TIMES the black population? Are they in THREE TIMES the number of ads or is something severely skewed here in the minds of Hollywood and Madison Avenue?

– The fact is that while White males make up the largest segment of our population, they were in only in 4% of the TV commercials! In most of those cases they are in their 60s to 80s and were pushing medication for debilitating diseases, reverse mortgages (Tom Selleck) or Medicare plans. While the study had many, many more alarming facts, one that really stands out is that except for Lincoln, virtually every ad campaign for new cars featured a woman driver. In the commercials for automobiles, there were more Black women drivers than White women drivers. Again, Europe was the exception: Mercedes and BMW had NO VISIBLE DRIVERS!! They showed the cars cruising highways but never allowed a view where the driver was visible. I found that very interesting. Are they more interested in selling the product while we appear to be more interested in selling the political/racial message?

– And it is not just our commercials that offer this skewed media driven unreality. It is also nearly impossible to turn on a show that doesn’t have a gay couple or LGBT component, yet in reality only one in eighteen should, if they want to accurately represent the less than 5.6% of the population that fall in this group. The results of this brainwashing are dramatic and very successful. Despite the low percentage in real life, when polled, Americans have been brainwashed to believe that 24% of all Americans are LGBT! Based on commercials, they must also believe that the “average” American family is biracial, that white men barely exist and Latinos/Asians do not exist at all.

– That is the magic and the tragedy of the fake, dishonest and unrealistic “woke” TV that we watch and are affected by 24/7, even though it is far afield from our reality. Ditto for the “woke” minority that follow mindlessly in its wake, thinking that this bizarre narrative is in fact real or justified, when it is merely an illusion and fabrication. They truly do control our entire thought process and will distort our perception of reality, if we allow them to do so.

– While it is one thing to erase the stigma of single parenthood, bi-racialism , or unusual sexual preferences, it is another thing completely to portray them as the “Role Model” or “Norm,” as representative of our entire society, especially at the expense of true normality or realism.
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June 1, 2022 2:42pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

This was emailed to me. Dunno if the links will work, hope so.

https://t.me/WorldAwakeningTrueNews/13440

World Awakening

“Have you seen the leaking of documents with data on Pfizer vaccines?
No wonder the FDA has been fighting to hide this for 55 years.”

Briefly:

“By February 2021, Pfizer had already received more than 1,200 reports of deaths allegedly caused by the vaccine and tens of thousands of reports of side effects, including 23 cases of spontaneous abortions from 270 pregnancies and more than 2,000 reports of heart disease.

Keep in mind that this is Pfizer’s own data.

This confidential Pfizer report, released under the Freedom of Information (FOI) procedure, contains data on deaths and adverse events registered by Pfizer from the beginning of the vaccine project in December 2020 to the end of February 2021, namely for a very short period (a maximum of two and a half months).

Pfizer BioNTech’s vaccine was launched in the United States on December 14 after an emergency use permit was issued on December 11, 2020.

Ironically, the data presented in this “insider report” refutes the official version of the vaccine distributed by governments and WHO. It also confirms the analysis of numerous doctors and scientists who revealed the devastating consequences of the “vaccine” of mRNA.
In a “confidential” report Pfizer provides detailed information about the influence of “vaccines” on mortality and morbidity, which can now be used to counter, and in the development of legal procedures against Big Pharma, governments, the who and the media.

In court, the evidence contained in this confidential Big Pharma report (combined with data on deaths and adverse events collected by national authorities in the EU, UK and USA)
is irrefutable: because it is their data and their estimates.

Pfizer was fully aware that the mRNA vaccine it sells worldwide would cause a wave of mortality and morbidity. This is tantamount to a crime against humanity.

Pfizer knew from the very beginning that it was a lethal vaccine, but people were told that it was designed to save lives.”

Full article:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/bombshell-document-dump-pfizer-vaccine-data/5763397

Global Research

Bombshell Document Dump on Pfizer Vaccine Data – Global Research

What is contained in Pfizer’s confidential report is detailed evidence on the impacts of the “vaccine” on mortality and morbidity. This data which emanates from the Horse’s Mouth can be used to confront as well formulate legal procedures against Big Pharma…

t.me/WorldAwakeningTrueNews/13440
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June 1, 2022 2:49pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

https://www.facebook.com/messenger_media/?thread_id=1808300006&attachment_id=454138216476313&message_id=mid.%24cAAAAAAgTUpKHTnaInmBHTFP1Ss1m
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June 1, 2022 5:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Really?
  
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  June 1, 2022 5:04pm
Maggie Pie

HDPA saying Chair of Pharmac-Review-Committee Sue Chetwin’s report into Pharmac…. is word for word what the government asked her to write.

He who pays the Piper…. LOL!!
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June 1, 2022 5:43pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I listened to the interview. What a train wreck. If Pharmac gives priority to funding drugs for Maori, by definition that means less funding for non-Maori.
  
  There is nothing wrong with Pharmac. It just needs more money (could easily be funded by cutting criminal waste elsewhere).
  
  I heard Andrew Little declare “this is the end for the independent republic of Pharmac”.
  
  In other words, the tested model of allocating the drugs budget so that net benefits are maximised for all New Zealanders is gone. Yet another “everything they touch turns to ****” 🙁
  
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  June 1, 2022 5:52pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    *shit*
    
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    June 1, 2022 6:00pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Probably will mean more funding for diabetic medications and less for colorectal cancer.
    
    Diabetes featured in the top 5 causes of death for Māori but did not feature in the top 5 for non-Māori.
    
    https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/populations/maori-health/tatau-kahukura-maori-health-statistics/nga-mana-hauora-tutohu-health-status-indicators/major-causes-death
    
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    June 1, 2022 7:46pm
    - Jack5
      
      And bugger all for skin cancer, a disease of those with lighter-coloured skins.
      
      And Little’s “…the end for the independent republic of Pharmac …”
      
      The old trade unionist Little welcomes tight political control of Pharmac, which has performed relatively well in the impossible task of meeting infinite demand for free health medicine.
      
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      June 1, 2022 11:19pm
surfing

If anyone wants to see the huge mess that dictator Ann Tolley is making of Tauranga…

https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/295104-watch-links-ave-trial-hotly-debated-locals.html
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June 1, 2022 5:58pm
info@cruzpro.com

The wife just got a text offering her a $50 gift certificate if she will get a covid19 vaccination.

I used to get those text messages regularly until I replied asking them how they obtained my private health information.

They are still trying even after the “vaccine” has been shown to be less than a true vaccine and potentially dangerous.

More and more data being released under court order is showing this “vaccine” can have significant negative health effects.
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June 1, 2022 6:21pm
Maggie Pie

Once the hospitals are overrun with Maori, Pasifika and the Disabled…. if my partner gets really sick, who else is going to be Working for the other 380,000 Families that rely on him?

Just saying.
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June 1, 2022 7:25pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  As long as it’s ‘equitable’ we should feel blessed.
  
  As Jack Tame discovered on HDPA’s huddle this evening, what Tarquin & Assata Jones from Grey Lynn believe is ‘equitable’ might not be what Rawiri Waititi MP believes is ‘equitable’.
  
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