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August 6, 2014 4:00pm by David Farrar

Meet your future power behind the Government

The future power behind the Government, if the left get into power with his $4 million utu campaign.

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Kim Dotcom

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cricko

Why didn’t he finish with,
“Seig Heil.” ?
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August 6, 2014 4:12pm
Rich Prick

That’s all a bit too *ahem* Hitler Youth for my liking.
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August 6, 2014 4:13pm
Inthisdress

The lightning bolts, the single arm aloft, the shouting and demogoguery. I’m racking my brains to recall where ‘ve seen that kind of thing before.
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August 6, 2014 4:14pm
JC

How well that fits with the IMP antisemitic rally the other day.

JC
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August 6, 2014 4:14pm
Manolo

Callow youth, gullibility and ignorance to the power of 100!
The German fraudster seems to be enjoying the moment, but his time will come.
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August 6, 2014 4:16pm
Huevon

Fortunately most of these people will forget to vote.
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August 6, 2014 4:17pm
RightNow

The Greens must be shitting themselves losing all those voters
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August 6, 2014 4:18pm
ManuT

I want to punch the lot of them. Human excrement on display.
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August 6, 2014 4:21pm
Longknives

None of these spotty adolescents would have voted for National anyway…The fat German is only stealing votes from Labour and the Greens..
Hell- Even I voted for Labour when I was young and deluded at Varsity!
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August 6, 2014 4:25pm
Prince

Wonder if this coverage would ever make it onto the TV news.
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August 6, 2014 4:28pm
Rich Prick

I think we can safely characterise Laila as Private Helga Geerhart now.
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August 6, 2014 4:32pm
Viking2

Hell- Even I voted for Labour when I was young and deluded at Varsity!

You’ve changed?
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August 6, 2014 4:35pm
Judith

… and now you’re just old and deluded here – instead ? 😛

But I do agree with you – most young people wouldn’t be attracted to National – or Labour for that fact. The funny thing is, I bet half of them will get in the booth and when they can’t find KimDotcom on the voting form, they won’t know who to vote for~
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August 6, 2014 4:36pm
Peter

Why is our education system churning out so many easily-led morons?
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August 6, 2014 4:40pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Sorry fellows – looks like John Key gone by lunch time to me……
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August 6, 2014 4:40pm
anonymouse

So, after we F$%k John Key, where exactly are we extraditing him to?

The fact that “Internet Mana” are willing to put this on their youtube page, jsut shows how much of a cult this has become,
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August 6, 2014 4:42pm
Judith

Sir Cullen’s Sidekick (806 comments) says:
August 6th, 2014 at 4:40 pm
Sorry fellows – looks like John Key gone by lunch time to me……

I do think that National will be able to stitch together a government, but at such a cost, that not only will the country be the losers – but John Key will resign, maybe not immediately but he will not see the full term out. I don’t think having to compromise will be his style. He’ll move on to much greener pastures.
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August 6, 2014 4:44pm
Brian Smaller

That’s all a bit too *ahem* Hitler Youth for my liking.

Except with a lot less discipline.
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August 6, 2014 4:46pm
anticorruptionnz

@ peter “Why is our education system churning out so many easily-led morons?”

because they are not taught to think.
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August 6, 2014 4:47pm
thePeoplesFlag

David Farrar has clearly officially entered middle age, he can’t remember what it was like to be young anymore. Still, he could try and use his life time membership of the Young Nacts to blarg his way into the VIP area to oogle the girls so all might not be lost.

Look, these are kids engaging in politics. That has to be good. Studies have shown that voting is a habit – and the earlier you start that habit, the more likely you are to continue. Hopefully, they’ll vote now and that will lead to them becoming adults who take an interest in the governance of our country.
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August 6, 2014 4:53pm
polemic

Is this more than Cunliffe had turn out in South Auckland or about the same number?
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August 6, 2014 4:57pm
Jim Peters

This reminds me of the novel “The Wave” by Morton Rhue / Todd Strasser.
Very disturbing.
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August 6, 2014 4:57pm
Peter

Many young males yelling that they want to have sexual intercourse with John Key?

Interesting.

A very confused party on so many levels…..
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August 6, 2014 4:58pm
Komata

From such small seed do insurrection’s grow. It’s an interesting example of how easy it is for a speaker to manipulate the ‘mob’ for his own benefit, and, given the fact that most there are both white and old enough to be working, one must wonder what the bribes and blandishments were that got them inside the venue. No doubt Minto J was looking on with interest and satisfaction; Karl Marx and Joseph Stalin would have definitely approved…

Richard John Seddon (the famous ‘King Dick’ which some may have heard of), used to use a phrase to describe his control over his audience. The phrase was ‘I played ’em like a piana’, and it would seem that the large German has somewhat-similar abilities.

BTW: Did anyone else notice the conspicuous absence of Polynesian faces amongst the audience? For such a race-based party such an absence is interesting.
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August 6, 2014 5:03pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

I can offer free ice cream and get many more than this….Just sayin….In NZ, even a scum like Minty Minto gets 50-100 people to get behind him…..
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August 6, 2014 5:14pm
Harriet

It’s a fucken good advertisment of the need for Charter schools.

It’s the follow-on from NZ’s dumbed down education system.

I’m surprised they arn’t all in brown shirts and jack-boots.
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August 6, 2014 5:14pm
Judith

National needs to fight back. Put Stephie on a stage next to Dot Com, telling them to vote for her Dad, and they’d soon change their minds about KDC. It’s populist politics – KDC is acknowledging the young votes, when National and Labour are ignoring them or acting like old farts – National needs to fight back – run a couple of gigs and get the enthusiasm going – they are, after all a significant group of voters – (but please, not JK, Whaleoil and DPF doing a trio rap – that would be too much!).
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August 6, 2014 5:19pm
berend

Why is our education system churning out so many easily-led morons?

Not sure. Ask John Key. He is running the state schools. Has no plans to abolish them or make a meaningful dent in their numbers, and no plans to change what they are taught.
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August 6, 2014 5:33pm
bc

Funny that you mentioned that, Harriet.
When I saw that mindless chanting without thinking, I thought of that military charter school.
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August 6, 2014 5:37pm
Peter

Not sure. Ask John Key. He is running the state schools.

They look older that six, which is the number of years Key has been in power. Methinks they’re mostly the result of the previous administration.

Charter schools might turn things around, tho’….if given a chance.
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August 6, 2014 5:43pm
SGA

ManuT at 4:21 pm

I want to punch the lot of them. Human excrement on display.

LOL – You weren’t in the National Guard at Kent State many years ago by any chance?
I wonder what became of all those drug-addled anti-establishment youth of the 60’s and 70’s? 🙂
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August 6, 2014 5:44pm
kowtow

Most of that lot of bums won’t be registered and won’t be voting.
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August 6, 2014 5:45pm
dime

lol this is like some some of pisstake borat movie. my god.
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August 6, 2014 5:58pm
duggledog

Hilarious! I don’t give this any import whatsoever – they are students at a student function for god’s sake; going with the flow, having a laugh. Has anyone here actually been to one? I went to many things like this, it isn’t even a big one. 90% of them will have parents that vote National at the very least – parents that push their kids into tertiary or have to fork out for it generally do. They might rebel a bit and cast their vote for Labour but that would be about it.

I would give ‘the kids’ more credit than ‘human excrement’; they are mostly smart, they will know the value of a dollar having to face the hard reality of student debt. They will have older brothers and sisters who have had to deal with it.

Did you see the young fellow laughing at the start? They’re just kicking out the jams and taking the piss. In the privacy of the polling booth they’ll all tick National, don’t worry DPF. F wits like Tiki Tane, they all do this, always have done and as I recall, when you’re in the audience you can’t help but feel a bit sorry for them when actually you know you’re living in a pretty sweet country.

To quote the Who, the kids are all right

The ones to really worry about are still running about in the bush in the Urewera. Now they really hate John Key
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August 6, 2014 6:15pm
adze

Oh well, may as well do a Godwin’s Law for once…

I can see more than one similarity in this South Park snippet 😉

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-c-xc24C8g
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August 6, 2014 6:19pm
SGA

duggledog at 6:15 pm

Hilarious! I don’t give this any import whatsoever – they are students at a student function for god’s sake; going with the flow, having a laugh.

You obviously aren’t taking this seriously enough, duggledog. Young people never behave the way you are suggesting, and never before have young people been attracted to anti-establishment movements. It’s a new phenomenon due to the lack of charter schools, the previous administation, and subliminal Nazism.
(and it’s election year 🙂 )
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August 6, 2014 6:25pm
EAD

In political speak, these people are the ultimate example of what is referred to as “useful idiots”.

I too was a useful idiot once though – I voted National in 2008 with a false belief in what they stood for.
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August 6, 2014 6:29pm
iMP

Keep digging the IMP (gee, I’m gonna have to change my Kiwiblog call-sign, which is actually meant as i-MP, as in i-Phone).

The more these mongrels publicise themselves, the less voters will be tempted.
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August 6, 2014 6:36pm
SPC

This should have been about ACT and United enabling National to sell off public assets at below fair value and sell off farmland to foreigners at world market prices with no CGT applying to the profits to the sellers.
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August 6, 2014 6:42pm
adze

This should have been about ACT and United enabling National to sell off public assets at ~~below fair value~~ either above or below fair value depending on the share price and whatever our preferred narrative is at the time, while continuing the dishonest characterisation that it was a complete sale rather than 49% of each asset

FTFY
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August 6, 2014 6:48pm
duggledog

Exactly SGA.

I remember being at a gig with a prim young thing too many years ago and watching her behave in a similar fashion. Flushed with the excitement of her (probably) first gig and being with her (probably) first boyfriend and her (probably) first proper drinking session she went crazy and yelled similar things in a similar situation. Then joined promptly joined the Young Nats a couple of weeks later.

She’s now married (not to me!) with kids and runs a profitable business
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August 6, 2014 6:49pm
Rightandleft

National shouldn’t write off the youth vote, I have plenty of teenaged students who support the Nats and some will be able to vote this time, while the rest will be needed for the next election. Unfortunately it seems to me that National just assumes they won’t capture the young vote and so don’t try too hard. I went to a debate put on for the 18-30 crowd by Rotaract the other day and Maggie Barry was representing National. Surely they could have got someone like Nikki Kaye to take that one? Young people respond better to faces like theirs. The other parties all sent their younger candidates. Barry was good but she also came across condescending and openly stated National had nothing to offer youth because their policies are about what’s good for all New Zealanders. Fair enough, but the message didn’t need to be delivered so bluntly. Felt like she walked in assuming a hostile audience and didn’t want to be there. I’m in my 20s and have always voted National, it isn’t a demographic to ignore.
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August 6, 2014 6:52pm
doggone7

Peter; “Why is our education system churning out so many easily-led morons?”

I don’t know. I’m trying to get a handle on what happened to our education system in the 60s, 70s and 80s that sees so many easily-led morons posting in forums like this.

It sure is interesting trying getting one’s head around the irony of Harriet saying the system she (probably) went through was “dumbed down.”
is she claiming to be the evidence?
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August 6, 2014 7:10pm
Rich Prick

Classic South Park adze, although to be fair the new Führer hates only one Jew so far.
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August 6, 2014 7:15pm
Rich Prick

Minto’s hatred of course, runs much deeper. There is quite something disturbing about Dotcom-Mana.
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August 6, 2014 7:33pm
Komata

SGA (and only because you asked):

Re: ‘I wonder what became of all those drug-addled anti-establishment youth of the 60′s and 70′s?.

FWIW, beign ‘Boomer’s, they largely became ultra-conservative, frequently right-wing, thoroughly-domesticated, home owning, totally out of touch, traditionalist, capitalist running dogs (just like their parents BTW), who, after allowing the ‘liberal’ genie to escape from the jar their parents had kept it in, are now trying to put the lid back on what they created and impose their will on the very unappreciative and rebellious next generation/s…

In other words, they became US!!

Scary thought isn’t it?
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August 6, 2014 7:37pm
edhunter

Oh to be young and stupid, shit I voted for Gilbert Myles once. The good news is it’s something you normally grow out of.
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August 6, 2014 7:40pm
Tom Barker

Ever thought why your party, and its policies, have no appeal to a large section of the population? Or is it simpler and safer to just keep on sneering at them?
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August 6, 2014 8:11pm
SGA

Komata at 7:37 pm

SGA (and only because you asked):
Re: ‘I wonder what became of all those drug-addled anti-establishment youth of the 60′s and 70′s?.
… snip …
In other words, they became US!!

Wow… I’d never thought of that. Thanks.
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August 6, 2014 8:19pm
Reboot

Judith (7,763 comments) says:
August 6th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

National needs to fight back. Put Stephie on a stage next to Dot Com, telling them to vote for her Dad, and they’d soon change their minds about KDC.

Why the fuck should John Key’s kid be put up on stage? When has she ever shown any interest or concern for politics? You’d think people want young voters to vote based on what they think about each party’s policies, not based on what a populist personality tells them to do.
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August 6, 2014 8:23pm
OneTrack

“, not based on what a populist personality tells them to do.”

You mean like the Greens wheeling out Xena for their announcements?
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August 6, 2014 8:27pm
The only red for me is that of Manchester United

It’s a pity Dotcom didn’t stagedive. He would have taken out a few.
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August 6, 2014 8:29pm
edhunter

Red as bulletproof as the youth may think they are, even they would have enough sense of self preservation to part like the proverbial Red Sea at the merest hint of the Fat One doing a stagedive.
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August 6, 2014 8:58pm
Peter

I don’t know. I’m trying to get a handle on what happened to our education system in the 60s, 70s and 80s that sees so many easily-led morons posting in forums like this.

I assume that comment was meant for The Standard.

Failing to see through KDC is like failing to see through Winston. A certain IQ…erm…level is required.
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August 6, 2014 9:02pm
Jim

“David Farrar has clearly officially entered middle age, he can’t remember what it was like to be young anymore.”

Not so sure – perhaps he was at university in the last half of the 80’s. At that time the drunken student chant was “off with Goff!” as he was minister of education somewhere in that timeframe. That’s my recollection of all the AUSA-organised student rallys at the time.

To be honest I don’t remember that much thanks to the efforts of NORML but “off with Goff” seems to have stuck. 😀
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August 7, 2014 3:21am
G152

Crim dot Con appeals to youth ??????.
He’s 40+and obesity on the hoof
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August 7, 2014 9:24am
jackinabox

Illegal NZ Police raids, Lochinver Station and William Snowden will certainly fuck John Key.
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August 7, 2014 9:35am
Pete George

Transcript:

Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!
Kim Dotcom!

Hey! How are you doing?Are you ready for a revolution?
Are you read to take down the Government?
Are you ready to extradite John Key?

Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!

This year you all have to vote. You all have to vote – you have to make it happen!
I’m, going to come down there, and I’m going to give every single one of your hearts!
I love you guys! Thank you.

Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
Fuck John Key!
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August 7, 2014 10:01am
Macfre

Now watch this for a comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9iUaP51CI&feature=player_detailpage
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August 7, 2014 10:13am
jackinabox

“You must be peace loving and strong.”….”Fuck John Key.”

Where’s the comparison?

On the one hand a clean cut sober youth rally and on the other a pissed mob of average students grooving to the beat. Get real.
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August 7, 2014 10:29am
Macfre

Both crowds are youth. Both crowds are being manipulated within an agenda. Neither agenda was/is beneficial.
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August 7, 2014 10:33am
Dave Mann

@Pete: I gave your transcript a thumbs up… not because I support DotCrim, but a thumbs up to you for transcribing it. Thanks.

I’ve said it a few times before on this blog and I’ll repeat it. This guy DotCrim is a dangerous bastard who is making a mockery of our political process on so many levels and the sooner we can get him out of our country the better it will be for New Zealand.
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August 7, 2014 10:37am
jackinabox

“Neither agenda was/is beneficial.”

The agenda to “Extradite John Key” to his bolthole in Hawaii is undeniably beneficial.
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August 7, 2014 10:43am
Rich Prick

jack, you sound awfully miserable. You yourself could do with a break in Kihei, it’s a wonderful (albeit expensive) spot.
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August 7, 2014 10:55am
jackinabox

Anyone who has been fucked over by the NZ Police will vote Mana/Internet.
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August 7, 2014 11:11am
ShawnLH

@ EAD

“I too was a useful idiot once though – ”

You still are.
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August 7, 2014 11:13am
ShawnLH

“Fortunately most of these people will forget to vote.”

Most of them will struggle to just get out of bed in the morning.
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August 7, 2014 11:15am
sassycassy

Rent-a-crowd! All he had to do was shout the beers.
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August 7, 2014 12:47pm
anonymouse

Looks like a bit of MSM light is being shone on this now, its currently the headline item on NZherald.co.nz

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11305399

“An Internet-Mana Party video clip of a frenzied crowd cheering on Kim Dotcom and chanting “f*** John Key” is a terrible look and an embarrassment to Internet Party leader Laila Harre, an expert in political marketing says.”

Looks like KDC is gonna get another telling off…..
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August 7, 2014 1:54pm
Fletch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPKqLejaCz0
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