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August 21, 2006 5:12am by David Farrar

A Pollice ruling I don’t disagree with!

Just ity I will be overseas on Wednesdayfor the actual parade!

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A.J.Chesswas

I know I said that was my last comment, but this is an aside. I find it hard to imagine how a repressed gay man could struggle with heterosexual pornographic temptation…
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August 25, 2006 10:24am
ZenTiger

Ben, he already told you why he takes that position. It’s rather aggressive to keep “floating possibilities.”

And again re K1, my point was that there are many ways of interpreting AJ’s statement in a positive context. I could think up examples with adults if you really want to be pedantic.

But it seems to me you are really reinforcing K1’s unfair assumption – a desire to make AJ a bad person to justify your outrage. Which really links back to the first point.

But then again, I’m merely floating possibilities. And that’s alright, isn’t it?
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August 25, 2006 10:30am
Ben Wilson

Zen, hardly aggressive. You need to read in context. When I said ‘you’, it meant ‘one’, or ‘someone’. And that someone could be AJ, but I wasn’t saying that it was.

Re: K1, yes I’d like to be pedantic in making you pick the examples that reinforce your point rather than leaving me to guess.

I don’t think AJ is a bad person, just a sad and stupid one. I think his externalization of his own inadequacy is not fair, but he’s really a pretty harmless fool, unlikely to have any influence at all. In times past he could have risen to a position where his delusions could affect the lives of others, and then he would be bad. But now he’s an anachronism, a self inflicted eunuch.

And yes, floating possibilities is OK. Whether they stay floating is down to evidence and there’s no real evidence that AJ isn’t gay and in denial other than his say so. Until he actually tries to have sex, even he won’t really know.
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August 25, 2006 10:48am
K1

Zen, you’re right, “nasty little man” was probably a bit unkind. So sue me – it wasn’t based only on his most recent revolting comments, but on the whole tone of his posting so far. I know all too many self-righteous pricks, and most of them are “nasty little men” who know better than the poor “weaker” people they try to dominate too.

And about the consent thing, what Ben said. There is a hopefully obvious large difference between children being lured into danger and adults exposing their breasts for some publicity. Or are you making a subtle point about your view of women?
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August 25, 2006 10:50am
A.J.Chesswas

And another aside. A random blogger who calls himself K1 and calls me a “nasty little man” bothers me about as much as the overpopulation myth…
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August 25, 2006 10:55am
Gooner

Time to push for 1,000 comments on this thread. Mine makes it 408. Let’s go!
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August 25, 2006 2:32pm
Danyl Mclauchlan

I find it hard to imagine how a repressed gay man could struggle with heterosexual pornographic temptation…

Hey everyone – AJ made a point! Nice work there AJ. See how you said something articulate about the subject under discussion and made an intelligent statement based on your own first hand observations about life? I’d try and adopt that as a tactic more often.
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August 25, 2006 2:38pm
weizguy

AJ’s moral code:

Is homosexuality immoral? YES
Is BDSM immoral when conducted by two consenting adults? YES
Is suicide immoral? YES
Is MTV immoral? YES
Are string bikinis immoral? DEPENDS ON CONTEXT
Is copying DVDs immoral? IF COPYRIGHTED AND YOU HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT: YES

My moral code:
NO
NO
NO
NO
NO
YES

Guess what – they don’t match. According to AJ, his is right, because i’m not as smart as he is, and he has to protect me from my own weaknesses.

I’d put money on the fact that AJ is not smarter than me – simply based on his inability to realise what the debate was all about. For someone who clearly thinks about this a lot, you struggle to argue your position…

Quite frankly, on the subject women’s sexuality, AJ has to be the most openly misogenist person I have ever encountered. I simply cannot comprehend how clueless and brainwashed he is about a woman’s ability to make sexual decisions for herself. You talk like women as if they were children, as if they needed you to make their decisions for them. Women stopped being property long ago dude, live with it.

Peace. I hope for the sake of your potential future wife that you wake up to yourself one day…
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