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March 27, 2006 6:45am by David Farrar

Average age: 13 3/4

New Vice-President of ACT Trevor Loudon has a nice photo of the new ACT Board up. Must be the youngest looking board of a political party ever.

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span(ner in the works)

Look, I know they’re a bit different, but this is all so Alliance-post-2002-election. Huge hit to the vote, 2 MPs returned (albeit in the wrong party, the Progs), renewal on the council with a lot of energetic young people who gave their all in the campaign. Being of the LW persuasion of course I hope Act don’t learn from the Alliance’s experiences 😉
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March 27, 2006 7:24am
Cadmus

Average age 13 3/4.

It can only end up being.

Lambs to the Slaughter!
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March 27, 2006 7:46am
mavxp

cute group photo. Nice to see its young blood keeping the wheels turning. Plenty of idealism not yet worn out by the cynicism of old age.
I hope they poll better in the future. I hate to see the young discouraged too early on.
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March 27, 2006 7:49am
Cadmus

I also saw on TV Mrs Judd giving Rodney Hide a kiss, do you think it was the “Kiss of Death” for Hide & his Party? I hear Mrs Judd & Hide are not that fond of each other?
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March 27, 2006 8:32am
Camryn

Keep dreaming, Caddy.

What is it about liberalism that gets you so fired up, or do you just dislike the party without bothering to actually understand it?
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March 27, 2006 9:40am
James

Its the horrible fact that should ACT ever get near the levers of power Cadmus’s gravy trip on the rest of us will be cut short. he would have to find productive work and rejoin reality.You can understand his terror at this prospect. 😉
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March 27, 2006 10:11am
Only Acting

Catherine Judd gave ACT the kiss of death when she became President.
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March 27, 2006 10:16am
Acting

Catherine Judd gave ACT the kiss of death when she became President.
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March 27, 2006 10:20am
Russell Brown

Nice to see Act is keeping up standards by electing someone who still treasures his links with the kooky quasi-religious “self-improvement organisation” Zenith Applied Philosophy.

Didn’t they used to operate the Dog House burger bar in Christchurch? It may have been coincidence, but that was where, as a lad, I discovered a copy of the infamous anti-semitic conspiracy tract ‘None Dare Call It Conspiracy’. Funny thing to be leaving around for the kids …

Cheers,
RB
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March 27, 2006 11:12am
trevor loudon

A little attempt at slander by association Russell? Didn’t think you liked that sort of thing. Are you implying in any way I’m connected with anti semitism? Surely not. Its a nasty thing to even hint at. I’m sure a journalist of your towering stature would never do such a thing without evidence. Where’s yours Bloggod?
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March 27, 2006 12:39pm
trevor loudon

A little attempt at slander by association Russell? Didn’t think you liked that sort of thing. Are you implying in any way I’m connected with anti semitism? Surely not. Its a nasty thing to even hint at. I’m sure a journalist of your towering stature would never do such a thing without evidence. Where’s yours Bloggod?
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March 27, 2006 12:49pm
Cadmus

Camryn, your wrong there. I know how the ACT Party would work alright, if they were part of the govt. “liberalism” is ACT’s way of trying to capture the romantic in you Camryn. Your Dreaming of Paul Reever riding into the night, The Boston tea Party, the Minute men on alert for any sign of the Red Coats, The Liberty Bell and George Washington at Valley Forge. Wakey, Wakey, Camryn it is a Dream!! The ACT Party are wolfes in sheeps clothing. Their priority is a select few. More like the ACT Red Coats fighting for large land owners, and speculators, not the small trader. Your what they want to be seen as their support base, but in the end you would find your part of the spoils would still only be a few crumbs off the loaf.
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March 27, 2006 12:50pm
trevor loudon

A little attempt at slander by association Russell? Didn’t think you liked that sort of thing. Are you implying in any way I’m connected with anti semitism? Surely not. Its a nasty thing to even hint at. I’m sure a journalist of your towering stature would never do such a thing without evidence. Where’s yours Bloggod?
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March 27, 2006 12:57pm
Russell Brown

A little attempt at slander by association Russell? Didn’t think you liked that sort of thing. Are you implying in any way I’m connected with anti semitism? Surely not. Its a nasty thing to even hint at. I’m sure a journalist of your towering stature would never do such a thing without evidence. Where’s yours Bloggod?

I actually had you own tireless efforts at condemning people by association in mind when I wrote that, Trevor. The likes of your ludicrous attack on Joss Debreceny, for example:

“The same year he was involved in a protest with John Moore and Felix Geiringer, against National Party Cabinet Minister, Bill Birch’s visit to the Otago Campus … Incidentally, Geiringer is the son of the late arch radical, doctor Erich Geiringer and Dr Carol Shand. That makes him the grandson of the late Tom Shand, a former National Cabinet Minister, who allegedly joined the Communist Party in his youth.”

Yikes. Commies everywhere.

So I wasn’t entirely serious – well, not as serious you seem to be anyway. But it’s true: the book was sitting around at the (ZAP-owned?) Dog House. My other memory of the place was the OTT milkshakes with icecream *and* an egg. They were good.

Cheers,
RB
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March 27, 2006 1:38pm
Danyl Mclauchlan

What is Zenith Applied Philosophy?
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March 27, 2006 1:45pm
Camryn

I actually think the American revolution was a power grab by local aristocracy from a more distant aristocracy. They dressed it up in nice words to make the masses happy, but America has never been truely liberal. So, in fact, I believe that what you accuse ACT of now was basically what happened then 🙂

ACT don’t seek a return to the Gilded Age of corporate robber barons. Everyone can see how that turns out.

An economy that delivers better results for everyone doesn’t serve just a select few. The current system, however, serves a select few who foster institutional state dependency to feed their own lust for power. We’re all being hurt and held back by this abuse in the guise of good intentions. The welfare state has been stolen and turned into a welfare trap that holds the economy and society back to buy power with our own money and lost potential.
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March 27, 2006 2:09pm
andrewfalloon

DPF,
Should point out that the photo doesn’t contain the entire Board. It is missing quite a number of “older” people- Ron Scott, Brendon Cullen, Alan Wilden, Ray Basset, the temporarily vacant Central Board member to name a few; while it includes all five AoC people on the Board (only two are full Board Members).
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March 27, 2006 3:46pm
err..

“A little attempt at slander by association Russell? Didn’t think you liked that sort of thing.”

This is quite funny. You note the only criticism here is that the attempt is “little” and that he didn’t think Russell liked that sort of thing.

What, Trevor – you prefer massive attempts at slander by association? You do rather seem to have engaged in one. I hope you’re not troubled by a taste of your own medicine…
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March 27, 2006 3:52pm
Russell Brown

What is Zenith Applied Philosophy?

Quasi-religious self-improvment capitalism cult that supposedly schismed away from Scientology early on (it’s now on the official Church of Scientology “fair game” list) and was extremely active in the 70s and early 80s. They owned a lot of commercial property in the city, and were quite controversial. They had people handing recruiting leaflets to kids in Cathedral Square. Now Zenith Applied Science, with whom Trevor still “studies”.

The Australian anti-fascist site Fight Dem Back claims ZAP was associated with the neo-Nazi Nationalist Workers Party.

Trevor emphatically denies that was ever the case, and I suspect that’s probably true, but that it attracted a few loose units who strayed onto the dark side. It was probably one of them who left that book lying around the burger bar …

Cheers,
RB
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March 27, 2006 4:04pm
stef

Seems I wasn’t the only one thinking the smiliraties in age between Act’s board and the Alliance baord post political (almost in Act’s case) descimation. The difference is that Act at least has people in parliment and is able to claw its way out of the rut unlike the alliance.
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March 27, 2006 4:48pm
Aaron Bhatnagar

Is there a Zenith Applied Science/Philosophy website? What is it that they actually believe? I presume that as an offshoot of Scientology it isn’t about Xenu, Operating Thetans and E-meters?
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March 27, 2006 5:12pm
Pip

Don’t know much about ZAP. But I am interested that the VP of ACT doesn’t think expropriating someone else’s property is any kind of an issue.

Unless he really is into self-flagellation.
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March 27, 2006 8:22pm
Oliver

Aaron, what Russell said above is more or less true, plus my understanding from what I gleamed from the various tenous sources flying around is that they combined an extreme libertarian view with some basic ideas of Scientology (which clearly wouldn’t have gone down too well with Lt Hubbard). It would be worth checking ZAP-aficionado’s stances on drug reform and anti-depression drugs.

There could be Xenu, but I guess we’ll never know until someone comes up out of the woodwork!
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March 28, 2006 1:06am
Jordan

ACT is finished. Boring.
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March 28, 2006 12:07pm
Red Fred

Aaron it pains me to admit this but that was a fucking good shot ,and I note the wing nut has not had the intestinal fortitude to respond at all.I have to say though it is somewhat incongruous to have you Nazi’s out there on the right fighting amoung yourselves,bugger it come out and fight we need the practice.I have to say politics has taken a somewhat surreal edge in NZ.Stop sweating the small stuff,a la DBP and signing forms and that sort of penny ante shit and sort out the govt on the balance of payments shortfall ,and spousal abuse etc. If you can.Piss or get off the pot.Fer christ sakes yer wankers ,get yer shit together,and hold the govt to account on the shit that matters.
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March 28, 2006 6:45pm
Danyl Mclauchlan

ACT is finished. Boring.

ACT is certainly finished but they’re anything but boring.
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March 28, 2006 9:17pm
Mark E

ZAP stories eh?

The Dog House was run by a ZAPper called dave Sloane. he got thrown out of ZAP for being too nutty, which takes some doing. everyone I knew who worked at the doghouse was fired for A. joining a union, or B. pinching money from the till to make up for wages never paid to them.

You have to admit that Johnny Ultimate (ZAP leader) has a sense of humour. he made one guy sepnd weeks every lunchtime standing in cathedral square in a tutu lecturing a nearby tree on the benefits of celibacy. This was punishment for breaking some ZAP rule or other.
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May 19, 2006 4:06pm
Mark E

ZAP stories eh?

The Dog House was run by a ZAPper called dave Sloane. he got thrown out of ZAP for being too nutty, which takes some doing. everyone I knew who worked at the doghouse was fired for (A) joining a union, or (B) pinching money from the till to make up for wages never paid to them.

You have to admit that Johnny Ultimate (ZAP leader) has a sense of humour. he made one guy spend weeks every lunchtime standing in cathedral square in a tutu lecturing a nearby tree on the benefits of celibacy. This was punishment for breaking some ZAP rule or other.
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May 19, 2006 4:07pm
exocet

“ACT is finished. Boring.”

Labour-bots like you Jordan are even more boring
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May 19, 2006 6:54pm
exocet

“ACT is finished. Boring.”

Labour-bots like you Jordan are even more boring
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May 19, 2006 7:20pm
exocet

“ACT is finished. Boring.”

Labour-bots like you Jordan are even more boring
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May 19, 2006 7:33pm

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