September 1, 2005 12:40pm by David Farrar

Winnie is sulking

I think Winston is upset at Don for stealing so many of his votes. Take this speech:

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llew

I must say… I’ve held the view that the election outcome will be grisly either way… but now… the chance that Winston might be unseated has rejuvenated my enthusiasm.

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September 1, 2005 12:51pm

Brad

Come on David, you can’t criticise Winston for being illogical – that’s just Winston. Communicate with him in his own language, mindless rhetoric. You really are insufficiently relativistic.

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September 1, 2005 1:20pm

Archon

Another party has said that they back NZ first…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10343503

Winnie should be very happy.

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September 1, 2005 1:22pm

darren

Winnie needn’t be too glum.
He does have some fans- the National Front!
Apparantly they could not get their documentation ready so the NF are backing Winnie and some other party.
But you’d think those other racists might have been in the running too- the Maori Pary!

From the Herald-

National Front says it backs NZ First

01.09.05 1.00pm

The extreme right-wing National Front says it is backing New Zealand First in the election campaign.

“National and Labour are Tweedledum and Tweedledee. We are backing the policies of New Zealand First or the Direct Democracy Party (DDP),” new national director Sid Wilson said today.

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September 1, 2005 1:28pm

James Doherty

Bernie Ogilvy also personally blamed Don for the Prostitution Bill getting through (while at the Helensville Political Forum).

I personally think that any moral issues should be decided by a referendum, not by a conscience vote.

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September 1, 2005 1:30pm

Craig Ranapia

Heh… Don Brash superfly pimp and his stable of foxy child ho’s! I also wonder whether Mr Peters should decry prostitution as a career – after all, he seems to be doing OK.

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September 1, 2005 2:17pm

John Pickering

Blaming any ONE policitician who voted for the prostitution law reform bill certainly ain’t logical – blame them all, whatever their political colours.
If you want to hear logic really turned on its head, I’ve twice now heard Ron Mark in a public meeting blame United Future (!) for the passing of prostitution law reform and Civil Unions. This kind of twisted logic reminds my of Hitler’s propaganda minister Joseph Goebbles who said “If you tell a lie enough times, it becomes accepted as truth, and, the bigger the lie, the more likely it is to be accepted.”

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September 1, 2005 2:55pm

darren

Well done JP
You’ve just summed up Labour’s campaign strategy 🙂

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September 1, 2005 3:09pm

Toa Greening

I thought Don was a true blue conservative gentleman that had old fashion values of respect towards women (eg refusing to yell at Helen during the leaders debate). However if this is the case, can anyone explain to me why he “conscience” voted to legalise prostitution?

BTW, last night I had just finished off recovering a stolen car for the Police and drove past Manurewa town centre to find 5 child prostitutes on the street. Child prostitution is not really a laughing matter and it is a real shame that neither National or Labour takes it seriously.

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September 1, 2005 3:11pm

Gooner

Toa, what do you make of this:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10343503

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September 1, 2005 3:32pm

Toa Greening

I do not approve of the National Front and really hope the media does not make a mountain out of a molehill over this (but I am not holding my breath). That last statement about Multiculturalism is absolutely ridiculous.

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September 1, 2005 3:58pm

baxter

I’m with you James Doherty, It should be the conscience of the Nation that decides moral issues not politicians. If Labour narrowly wins the election I wager that first up will be the anti spacking conscience bill and it will be passed by a collective Labour /Green conscience and a few silly
right wingers exercising their freedom of thought.Close thereafter will be the Hate speech law decided in a similar manner.

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September 1, 2005 4:03pm

Gooner

Agreed Baxter. Agreed Toa.

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September 1, 2005 4:09pm

Berend de Boer

DPF, note that Winston talks about “career option”, not about being a prostitute.

And Don is personally responsible or are MPs not personally responsible for their votes?

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September 1, 2005 8:45pm

Shawn

“I thought Don was a true blue conservative gentleman”

No. While Don may well be a gentleman, he is not a conservative, but a classical liberal. And while he alone is not solely responsible for the prostitution “reform” bill, he is, as is every member of Parliament that voted for it, personally responsible.

So Winston is not being desperate, hes pointing a valid criticism.

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September 2, 2005 9:15am