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August 29, 2005 8:33am by David Farrar

The Haka

Is there anyone who doesn’t like the new All Black Haka?

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Cadmus

Was Tana Umanga miming a “P” user on a downer or release from a straight jacket?
If Umanga only realized what a pathetic joke he looked!
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August 29, 2005 9:22am
Ryan

I’m not interested in the Haka. At every opportunity it is used to commmorate/celebrating/mourn/congratulate/honour someone.Yawn.
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August 29, 2005 9:32am
Paul

I didn’t like the Haka because:

– Its enlongated (too many silient intervals), leading to thoughts of “Hello!….get on with it”.

– Tana Umanga sound like a strangled turkey as he delivered it. I thought he sounded terrible. Let one of the Maori boys do it…..they deliver it so much better. Same goes for Kamate.

I love the Haka the Maori ABS do…….far more fearsome and bristling.
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August 29, 2005 9:34am
Russell Brown

Cadmus: “Was Tana Umanga miming a “P” user on a downer or release from a straight jacket? If Umanga only realized what a pathetic joke he looked!”

He doesn’t care what you say so long as you, er, spell his name right …

But yeah, I loved it.

Cheers,
RB
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August 29, 2005 9:39am
mikey bill

I thought it was good. I didn’t realise it was a brand new one especially written for the ABs. Given the traditional dislike of “Ka mate” in Ngai Tahu country thanks to the originator’s rather unfortunate history of invading, enslaving and eating them, it shows great sensitivity on the ABs behalf not to remind Stephen O Reagan’s iwi of their ancestors lack of martial ability.

All in all, yeah, it worked, it was good.
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August 29, 2005 9:57am
Mark

Take that Cadmus, and don’t be so bloody po-faced
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August 29, 2005 9:58am
weizguy

I knew something was weird when I saw that Tana (rather than Rico) was leading, and that the leader’s call was different.

I was in Hope Bros in Wellington, and when the boys went down on on knee, the crowd went nuts.

Look for the ABs to use it when playing England on the end of year tour.
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August 29, 2005 10:13am
Russell Brown

“Look for the ABs to use it when playing England on the end of year tour.”

Not so sure about that: the first line translates as: “Let me become one with the land,” so I wonder if it’s written for performance on home soil.

Cheers,
RB
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August 29, 2005 10:20am
Isabel

I thought it was Great!

I too thought it was a little odd Tana leading, as it should have been a maori/part-maori,like Rico Gear!

But all in all, it was Great.
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August 29, 2005 10:31am
Matt

I thought the news Haka was crap.
Tama looked horrible especially when he hit that guy on the shoulder and the cutting of the throat was awful.
I actually think they shouldnt do the haka at all as it makes New Zealand look like a Banana Republic
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August 29, 2005 10:57am
Craig Ranapia

Don’t really have an opinion either way – but was actually nice to see the AB’s not doing a haka on half-arse autopilot. Obviously a lot of practice went into it – now if only they could get a little consistency into the actual football.
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August 29, 2005 11:02am
weizguy

Matt – maybe we should do some Morris dancing instead? That way we could look like good little colonials. After all why would we want to be proud of our shared culture?
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August 29, 2005 11:14am
Matt

Weizguy cmon no other country in the world does such a gesture (except some little pacific island nations)Lets grow up as a country and get rid of it.
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August 29, 2005 11:17am
anon

I thought it was great, the Kamate haka has become boring because everyone does it now – the softball team, the hockey team the olympic swimming team, the rsa darts team – please, just leave it to the ABs, if they are the only ones doing it, it won’t get boring.
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August 29, 2005 11:27am
Greg Stephens

Starts of a lot like the Wellington College haka. The going to ground and up until the come back up is STOLEN from Wellington College.
It was well done, and showed that Maori do have a part to play in New Zealand, no matter what Dr. Brash says.
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August 29, 2005 12:51pm
llew

Please don’t even joke about Morris Dancing….
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August 29, 2005 12:59pm
Matt

Greg
Don Brash has said that maoris do have a part to play in New Zealand. However as individuals not because they happen to Maori. Kiri Te Kanawa, Micheal Campbel and other Maori got to where they are because of their own individual efforts not because they happened to be Maori. Greg politically correct people such as yourself have actually damaged the aspirations of Maori.
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August 29, 2005 1:31pm
anon

“….showed that Maori do have a part to play in New Zealand, no matter what Dr. Brash says”

Riiiiiiiight, remind us again when it was exactly that Dr Brash said that Maori have no part to play in NZ, or even words remotely to that effect.
I must have been the same speech that he said he was personally going to eat the first born child of every couple in the South Pacific….
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August 29, 2005 1:35pm
mara

My old dad always said “girl,if you do a thing,do it right”.(or was that Johnny Cash?)so I assert that the ABs should have done that thing BUCK-ARSED NAKED or not at all.As a good mummy though,I would have covered my daughter’s eyes.
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August 29, 2005 2:44pm
Craig Ranapia

Mara wrote:
“I assert that the ABs should have done that thing BUCK-ARSED NAKED or not at all.As a good mummy though,I would have covered my daughter’s eyes…”

I reply:
While assessing who would be a fit father of your grandchildren? Can’t remember who said sons-in-law should be treated like ponies – pick a clean, healthy specimen and shoot it when it gets shirty – but it’s never too soon to start planning. 🙂
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August 29, 2005 3:21pm
stef

Oh no they’ve changed the haka? Bugger. My boys loved the haka when I showed it to them last year.
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August 29, 2005 3:58pm
mara

Craig, you are correct. When I made the terrible mistake of inviting my first love interest to pick me up from home for a date,the poor bloke was met by my father cleaning his gun(I should say hunting rifle but it could well have been an AK 47 given Dad’s attitude).The poor little bastard could not get me home soon enough,despite my uncontested allure in those days.Nature/nurture ha ha….Half of me now thinks “sexuality/maturity = good.The other half says “if I even suspect that you want to put your sweaty hands on my child,I will throttle the life out of you”.There is nothing new here,but Jeez,I’d still love to see the ABs naked.Should I increase my medication?
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August 29, 2005 4:25pm
gazzadelsud

well, i am not sure about the haka. It was a good one, but i did miss ka mate (sorry steve!)

but i do again wonder why it is that the key polynesian role models have to be warriors threatening to kill and eat their opponents.

Whats wrong with just beating them at rugby?

I don’t think NZ society as a whole benefits from encouraging this kind of symbolism as the key identifier for the more polynesian parts of our society.

(yes I know i sound like a wowser, and it was an excellent game too)

We need to see less Maori and PI people as warriors and/or thugs and fraudsters, and more as industry leaders and business people to be looked up to as role models
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August 30, 2005 12:55pm

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